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November 2, 2006

The Sam Seder Show - Thursday

From Sam's Stack of Stories for Thursday, November 2nd, 2006:

Air Force needs $50 extra for transporting American bodies
Bush says he will never replace Rumsfeld, Cheney
Poll: Americans want Dems in Congress, troops out of Iraq
Conservative ex-military columnist: We can't win in Iraq

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Click here to read our guest Sidney Blumenthal's latest column, "It's Rove's midterm to lose"

Posted by not sam at November 2, 2006 8:23 AM

Comments

Is this thang called war dog for real?

Posted by: PK_McCarney at November 2, 2006 8:43 AM

no. he's a figment of his own imagination, i think.

have a great show, sam. i'll be listening in the morning.

night all.

Posted by: jenise at November 2, 2006 8:51 AM

wayne gilman, the video of mike stark and the allen people shows that he asked the senator IF he spit on his wife, not why he did (as he himself just pointed out on the young turks).

okay, seriously, good night.

Posted by: jenise at November 2, 2006 9:06 AM

its a new dawn...

mornin y'all

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 9:06 AM

hey sam, the main site is missing link to todays blog...

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 9:19 AM

Morning Bloggers!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:28 AM

Back to Story - Help
Bush: Commanders say Iraq troop level OK By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
1 hour, 19 minutes ago


President Bush says he has not received any request to send more American forces to Iraq and that commanders have told him the 144,000 troops already deployed are "what they can live with."

Bush also said "it's hard for me to tell" if U.S. troops will still be in Iraq when he leaves office in January 2009.

Five days before the midterm elections, the president said he understand the anxieties of Republicans who have distanced themselves from his Iraq policies. "People will run the race they need to run," he said. Bush said Democrats "don't have a plan for victory."

Bush spoke in an interview with The Associated Press and others Wednesday, a day before he headed out for five days of campaigning up to Election Day. He plans to vote Tuesday in Crawford, Texas, and then fly back to Washington to await returns at the White House.

Discounting mounting predictions that Republicans will lose control of the House, Bush expressed confidence that his party would maintain its grip on both the Senate and House.

"I don't believe it's over until everybody votes," Bush said, sitting in a wing chair in the Oval Office in front of a table adorned with a bowl of roses. "And I believe that people are concerned about the amount of taxes they pay, and I know many people are concerned about whether or not this country is secure against attack."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush&printer=1

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:29 AM


"ethical cell lines", the new term to look for in the "wacko" news networks

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:31 AM

What happened to the Kirsten Gillibrand interview??

Posted by: SmokinJoe at November 2, 2006 9:32 AM

Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 9:33 AM

U.S. Press Freedom Rank Drops
...
In the most recent edition alone, Worldwide Press Freedom Index 2006, the U.S. dropped nine places, tying with Botswana, Croatia and Tonga at 53. Finland, Iceland, Ireland and the Netherlands tied for first, while North Korea came in last at 168.

Although press freedom in the US is more protected than that in three quarters of the world, it is nevertheless the lowest out of highly developed countries, with the nearest being Japan at 51. This seems to put the US at odds with its unwavering message of freedom to the world.

What have precipitated the U.S.’s drop in rankings are not egregious violations such as threats and censorship but are more subtle changes in the legal situations facing the press. The main point of contention is whether the press has the right to withhold the identity of its sources.
...

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 9:34 AM

MAJORITY REPORT

Ann Coulter must have gotten enough of anyone who will call her on the facts, when Alan Colmes was replaced by the girl, and she kept calling for Shaun to rescue her.

Borat is a cross between Andy Kaufman and Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends.

Posted by: I at November 2, 2006 9:36 AM

1,289: Number of Iraqi civilians who died last month in political violence. The number — nearly 42 people per day — was up 18 percent from the 1,089 such fatalities in September.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110100804_pf.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:38 AM


Greetings all from Ohello!

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 9:38 AM

this frog's cooked...

so when did cnn abandon its core values and become a fox news clone. i'm running out of news shows to watch.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 9:40 AM

Katherine Harris is on MSNBC. God she's ugly. I don't think her face lift worked. All the wrinkle dropped into her neck!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:41 AM


And she is a man, Sam.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 9:43 AM

CNN vacilates between conservative and liberal views. Hedging the bet?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:43 AM

Katherine Harris is on MSNBC. God she's ugly. I don't think her face lift worked. All the wrinkle dropped into her neck!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:41 AM


just needs to go back and have that screw in the back of head tightened up some more.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 9:43 AM

The Bush administration is delaying the release of an annual hunger report until after the elections. The Agriculture Department report, which has generally been released in October, has shown steady increases in the number of people struggling with hunger. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) said, “It seems like a pattern is emerging where the administration simply tries to bury bad information the closer they get to the election.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_go_ot/hunger_report

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:45 AM

CNN vacilates between conservative and liberal views. Hedging the bet?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:43 AM

i think sam just nailed it. its all about ratings which equals cash flow. they're all just whores.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 9:45 AM

Indeed Tonid.

Maybe all that makeup Katherine wore previously- hide the fact that she really is ugly.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 9:46 AM

At least one advertiser on the Air America blacklist insists that it did not request that its commercials be blacked out on Air America Radio affiliates. The company, REI, released a statement saying that it had “not refused to advertise during Air America’s programming. In fact, REI has placed radio ads on stations carrying Air America programming.”

http://mobjectivist.blogspot.com/2006/10/october-surprise.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:46 AM

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 9:47 AM

I should have written "cell lines derived from ethical sources"

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/689991384.html

First, they wanted to removed federal funding for research, now they want to remove federal authorization for private ventures as well.

A 72 hr mobilization issue?

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:49 AM

The Washington Post writes that, over the next two years, “we’re likely to get dizzy as more folks move through the revolving door from the [Bush administration] to the private sector.” Eric Burgeson, who was chief of staff to Energy Secretary Sam Bodman, recently left to head the energy practice at the conservative lobbying shop, Barbour, Griffith & Rogers. Here are more examples of the revolving door.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110103271_2.html

We have to get those lobbying rules up and running PDQ!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:49 AM

they sttopped saying "stem cells"

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:51 AM

Maybe all that makeup Katherine wore previously- hide the fact that she really is ugly.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 9:46 AM

Yep, you looked at the makeup instead of the face. Because all the comments were about the makeup!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:51 AM

Can we say coyote ugly?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:52 AM

"cell lines derived from ethical sources"

http://www.art.net/studios/lindafrost/Machine_Head_linda_frost_artist.jpg

evil

Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 9:52 AM

information overload. Kuo is now old news. "Faith Based" funding for Republican campaigns? Who cares about that when we can critique comedy routines of non-candidate candidates?

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:56 AM

First, they wanted to removed federal funding for research, now they want to remove federal authorization for private ventures as well.

A 72 hr mobilization issue?

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:49 AM

They should put all that energy into helping people that have devestating deseases which would save lives. I think we are overpopulating the earth at this point anyway. Lets help the people, kids and adults, that are here already. And the unborn that may have the same problems after birth!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:56 AM

I'm glad Sam didn't say "Sed-ate"

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 9:57 AM

What happened to the Kirsten Gillibrand interview??

Posted by: SmokinJoe at November 2, 2006 9:32 AM

Gillibrand is very busy campaigning, and since she's in such close race her schedule changes all the time. She had to cancel-- not because she doesn't want to be on Air America but because her staff wants her somewhere else, probably on the ground talking to voters.

Posted by: MajorityMark at November 2, 2006 9:58 AM

A new report by Families USA contradicts the Bush Administration’s claims that in 2007 “there will be more plans with coverage in the [doughnut hole] gap.” The study finds that, in 13 states next year, there will be no drug plans that offer coverage in the so-called “doughnut hole” and the average monthly premiums will rise 87 percent for plans that provide “meaningful coverage.”

http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/newsroom/press-releases/drug-plan-coverage-for.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:58 AM

Charlottesville PD investigating the Allen campain's assault on blogger Mike Stark. And Sen. Allen (R-VA) is among those the cops want to question.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010735.php

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:01 AM

They should put all that energy into helping people that have devestating deseases which would save lives. I think we are overpopulating the earth at this point anyway. Lets help the people, kids and adults, that are here already. And the unborn that may have the same problems after birth!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 9:56 AM


that makes too much sense. with the contempt the theo-crats have for humanity it would never happen. besides, their puritanical view is that disease is gods way of telling you that you are a sinner.

bluegeorgian is probably correct about a 72 hour mobilization. they know they are going down if that can't get the lemmings to mobilize.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:02 AM

"Lets help the people, kids and adults, that are here already. And the unborn that may have the same problems after birth!"

They are right-to-birth-ers. Once you're here, you can go screw yourself (but not anyone else)

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:03 AM

Charlottesville PD investigating the Allen campain's assault on blogger Mike Stark. And Sen. Allen (R-VA) is among those the cops want to question.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010735.php

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:01 AM

lets hope they detain him for a long while and while they're at it, get the rubber hoses out.

someone pointed out on young turks that mike showed tremendous restraint. as an ex marine he could have turned the attackers into a smear on the wall.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:04 AM

I like the way Josh put this:

Enraged karma gods descend on Ann Coulter.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/01/coulter.voting.ap/index.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:06 AM


They charged Stark.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 10:09 AM

"bluegeorgian is probably correct about a 72 hour mobilization. they know they are going down if that can't get the lemmings to mobilize."

If we can't drive home the point that they have been and are being used, they'll turn out.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:10 AM

I'll have the pancakes in the age of in enlightenment

Posted by: red at November 2, 2006 10:11 AM

The Daily Muck
By Jeff Hughes - November 2, 2006, 8:22 AM
Scandals Alone Could Cost Republicans Their House Majority
"Indictments, investigations and allegations of wrongdoing have helped put at least 15 Republican House seats in jeopardy, enough to swing control to the Democrats on Tuesday even before the larger issues of war, economic unease and President Bush are invoked.

"With just five days left before Election Day, allegations are springing up like brushfires. Four GOP House seats have been tarred by lobbyist Jack Abramoff's influence-peddling scandal. Five have been adversely affected by then-Rep. Mark Foley's unseemly contacts with teenage male House pages. The remaining half a dozen or so could turn on controversies including offshore tax dodging, sexual misconduct and shady land deals.

"Not since the House bank check-kiting scandal of the early 1990s have so many seats been affected by scandals, and not since the Abscam bribery cases of the 1970s have the charges been so serious. But this year's combination of breadth and severity may be unprecedented, suggested Julian E. Zelizer, a congressional historian at Boston University." (WaPo)

Continue reading...

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001917.php

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:12 AM

They charged Stark.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 10:09 AM

can you substantiate that? google news doesn't indicate anything.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:12 AM

G'day, gang!

*

Sammer: You were on fire yesterday w/ the wingnut callers...on fucking FIRE!

One of the best parts of your show is when you call out the wingnuts on the air, take their calls, let them have their say and then kick them in the balls...rhetorically, of course.

That skank ho, Cuntler, is catchin' shit on the wingnut circuit for not debating you on CNN last night. One the comments said they understood Cuntler chickening out; you being such a 'loony lib' and all. *snark*

*

Olbermann’s Special Comment: There is no line this President has not crossed — nor will not cross — to keep one political party, in power.

[Transcript there.

Sam/Mark: Read some of this on air, please!]

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 10:13 AM

They charged Stark.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 10:09 AM

Last night on Olbermann Stark said that they were trying to bring charges against him. I don't know anything past that.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:14 AM

is this clown for real or is sam sneaking some satire in.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:14 AM

Is this a serious call?

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:14 AM

Make sure you have a brave friend with a video camera if you plan on accompanying any republican politician. That includes Joe.

..."Joe then went to downtown Naugatuck, met with the fireighters, then addressed a surprisingly large crowd on the Green. About 50 people were there. While he spoke I circled the Green in the Float without incident.

As he prepared to leave I pulled over to follow him to his next stop. A patrol car pulled up to block me in. I asked the officer why he was blocking me in and if free speech was dead in America. ( I probably should have kept my mouth shut.)

He got angry, said I was parked illegally, and demanded my license. He gave it back after running it and my tag.

Drowsy was kind enough to respond to my original request for support, and he witnessed the entire event. Thanks, drowsy!

I have no idea where the Joe crew went next. "

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4287

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:15 AM

Who is Sam talking with?

Er.. pretending to talk with.

Is it Adam Corrolla?

Posted by: otto at November 2, 2006 10:15 AM

Stark was on the Young Turks this morning. Indeed they are going to charge the Republican staffers. But! Stark will be charged as well.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 10:15 AM

sam, kick his butt. he called you a p*ssy.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:16 AM

Thomas "Manley"? Heh!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:16 AM


"Justice Sunday" support pro-corporate and pro-authoritarian Justices

Scanlon's "wackos" did anything the were told

"Faith Based Programs" had nothing to do with faith, but everything to do with campaigns

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:16 AM

I wont be able to tell. Weve heard right wingers, sound that way before.

It reminds me of the way my first step day treated my mom.

It wasnt as bad as the way I heard and saw my 2nd stepdad treat my mom.

So I wouldnt find anything said unbelievable. Unfortunatly.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:18 AM

"But this year's combination of breadth and severity may be unprecedented, suggested Julian E. Zelizer, a congressional historian at Boston"

That's despite complete Republican control and cover-up. It's just the tip of the iceberg,, no doubt.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:20 AM

Does that mean I think George Bush would push Laura through as plate glass window? Yeah, if he wee drunk he would. No doubt.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:21 AM

Sam,

How much of your show is pure theatre?

I love it.

Posted by: otto at November 2, 2006 10:22 AM

“There has never been an American army as violent and murderous as the one in Iraq”
Pulitzer-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh slams Bush at McGill address
By Martin Lukacs
The McGill Daily

"The bad news,” investigative reporter Seymour Hersh told a Montreal audience last Wednesday, “is that there are 816 days left in the reign of King George II of America.”
The good news? “When we wake up tomorrow morning, there will be one less day.”
Hersh, a Pulitzer-prize winning journalist and regular contributor to The New Yorker magazine, has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. government for nearly 40 years. Since his 1969 exposé of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, which is widely believed to have helped turn American public opinion against the Vietnam War, he has broken news about the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia, covert C.I.A. attempts to overthrow Chilean president Salvador Allende, and, more recently, the first details about American soldiers abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
During his hour-and-a-half lecture – part of the launch of an interdisciplinary media and communications studies program called Media@McGill – Hersh described video footage depicting U.S. atrocities in Iraq, which he had viewed, but not yet published a story about.
He described one video in which American soldiers massacre a group of people playing soccer.
“Three U.S. armed vehicles, eight soldiers in each, are driving through a village, passing candy out to kids,” he began. “Suddenly the first vehicle explodes, and there are soldiers screaming. Sixteen soldiers come out of the other vehicles, and they do what they’re told to do, which is look for running people.”
“Never mind that the bomb was detonated by remote control,” Hersh continued. “[The soldiers] open up fire; [the] cameras show it was a soccer game.”

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcgilldaily.com%2Fview.php%3Faid%3D5450

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:23 AM

My stepdad hated his mom.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:23 AM

My stepdad hated his mom. People say George Bush is Edipal. Because while men like this hate their mom, they fear and obey them.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:25 AM

If yo have HBO be sure to watch...

Diebold demands that HBO cancel documentary on voting machines
Film saying they can be manipulated 'inaccurate'

By MICHAEL JANOFSKY
BLOOMBERG NEWS

Diebold Inc. insisted that cable network HBO cancel a documentary that questions the integrity of its voting machines, calling the program inaccurate and unfair...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/290653_diebold01.html?source=mypi

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:25 AM

It's the deficit, stupid!

And the poverty rates have increased in every year of Bush's reign.

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 10:27 AM

And my moms cool. Shes a country liberal. Marched back in the late 60s. Apparently my grampa took mom and her sister down and they all joined the NAACP.(Were red head, I guess I count). But my step pappy was screwed up. He was a Limbaugh listening truck driver.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:27 AM

Back to Story - Help
Va. Senator blames scuffle on Dem. foe By BOB LEWIS, Associated Press Writer
Wed Nov 1, 10:08 PM ET


Republican Sen. George Allen (news, bio, voting record) on Wednesday refused to denounce his supporters' manhandling of a liberal blogger a day earlier, accusing his Democratic opponent of provoking the videotaped incident.

The scuffle lingered as both Allen and Democrat Jim Webb entered the final week of their bitter and sometimes bizarre campaign. Polls show it to be a close race that could help determine if the GOP retains its U.S. Senate majority.

Webb, campaigning in Richmond, said he knew nothing of the incident Tuesday in which men wearing blue Allen lapel stickers put University of Virginia law student W. Michael Stark in a choke hold and slammed him to the floor after an Allen rally at a Charlottesville hotel.

Allen blamed Webb's campaign, not his supporters, for the incident.

"It was typical of the Webb campaign, wanting to provoke an incident," Allen said. He did not say why he believes the Webb campaign provoked the stunt.

Webb denied involvement.

"I don't even know what happened yesterday. I don't even know this individual. But I certainly regret the conduct of certain people there yesterday," Webb said.

Video of the incident was shown often on cable news networks and circulated widely on the Internet, posing a late-campaign distraction for Allen just as he was trying to make his final push to the Nov. 7 election.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_el_se/virginia_senate&printer=1

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:28 AM

I don't know about George and a plate glass window, but give Laura a car and look out.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:28 AM

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:23 AM...

I guess those video games did work for desensitizing the youth.

Then again, maybe it's seeing the traitor, Ollie North, on Fox. Disgusting.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:29 AM

next break everyone should go watch the olbermanns video on john kerry. lets hope his head doesn't explode before the election comes. we need someone who can speak the truth.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:32 AM

Thats why no matter how offensive George Bush and the republicans are, whatever they do, to me, its old. Its prehistoric. Seeen it. Been there. Done that.

Hey, this will reveal some psychology. Why if a guy serrves in the Korean war....if a guy is an MP throught the whole war and sees no combat.....does the guy still hate seeing or smelling rice? Doesnt even talk about Asian stuff. Cant stand anything that reminds him of it. Wont allow rice in the house for food. But he doesnt have PTSD. How sane would that guy be?

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:32 AM

If you add in the hate momma complex he suffers from....

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:33 AM

Where is the justice of political power if it executes the murderer and jails the plunderer, and then itself marches upon neighboring lands, killing thousands and pillaging the very hills?

-Kahlil Gibran

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 10:34 AM

Bush Supporteritous

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:34 AM

GOP doesn't want to politicize war, but peace is OK...

Grandmother forced out of polling center
posted by: Sara Gandy Web Producer


COLORADO SPRINGS (AP) - A Colorado Springs woman who sported a button reading: "Grandmothers for Peace" as she cast her ballot early this week says she was pitched from the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder's Office.

Additional Resources...

Election officials say 63-year-old Rita Ague violated a law against campaigning within 100 feet of a polling place when she tried to vote Monday.

The county's acting director of the election department says it is the law. No one is allowed to wear anything political at a polling place.

Ague, a grandmother of four, says she has been wearing the button for ten years because she believes in peace.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado says peace is not a political stance, and tossing Ague out of a public building was probably unconstitutional.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a3fffe7b-0abe-421a-0003-831dd811d8f2&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:34 AM

Borat on Letterman, the other night, was hysterical...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msk8GsSSYiU

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:37 AM

You know whats sad... Its all true. Ill have to get over that....

&%$#&!!BAM!!!

Whew, thats better.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:37 AM

anybody notice how bad the market is today. what happened to the soaring economy? looks like the rethugs are hedging their bets and pulling their cash out.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 10:37 AM

Your Liberal Media


Paula Zahn cancels on Sam Seder because Ann Coulter refuses to appear with him, and then has on her good friend Mickey Kaus instead (obviously it never would have occurred to them to cancel on Ann Coulter). But, never fear, in the previous hour they had Christopher Hitchens and Andrew Sullivan. And, yes, Sully no likey the Bushies no more but but that's still no excuse for never putting a goddamn liberal on TV.


-Atrios 9:01 AM

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_10_29_atrios_archive.html#116247631656887689

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:37 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 10:38 AM

And she is a man, Sam.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 10:39 AM

Actually Paulas Zahn baild on liberals before.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:40 AM

Wado is stuck on Hillary's neuticals.!

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 10:40 AM

Its was like three months ago she, uh, pretty mich same thing happened even though I cant remember which AAR host was supposed to go on and then she canceled the afternoon of.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:41 AM

Probably same reason, Ann Coulter was maybe the guest, and she wouldnt come on without Foxnews pundits licking her boots ready to turn off her opponents mic. Cheaters dont play of they cant cheat the way they normally do.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:42 AM

ProtectMyVote.org Helps Protect Your Right to Vote

http://www.ProtectMyVote.org, a new groundbreaking site.

1. It's only for voters, not for the activist community, although anyone can get good information on PMV.

2. It's particularly for vulnerable communities who historically get disenfranchised.

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:43 AM

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:43 AM

Troubled troops in no-win plight
Updated 11/2/2006 8:39 AM ET
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-11-01-troubled-troops_x.htm?csp=34

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. — Chris Packley returned from Fallujah in 2004 a top marksman on a sniper team showcased in the Marine Corps Times for its 22 kills.
"I was exceptionally proud of that Marine," says Gunnery Sgt. Scott Guise, his former team leader.

He also came home with flashbacks — memories of his friend, Lance Cpl. Michael Blake Wafford, 20, dying on the battlefield. Packley says he smoked marijuana to try to escape the images. He also left the base without permission. "I wanted out," Packley says.

ON DEADLINE: Have you experienced PTSD?

Last year he got his wish and was expelled from the Marine Corps. As a consequence, he lost access to the free counseling and medication he needed to treat the mental wounds left from combat, according to Packley, his former defense lawyer and documents from the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Scores of combat veterans like Packley are being dismissed from the Marines without the medical benefits needed to treat combat stress, says Lt. Col. Colby Vokey, who supervises the legal defense of Marines in the western USA, including here at Camp Pendleton.

When classic symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) arise — including alcoholism and drug abuse — the veterans are punished for the behavior, Vokey says. Their less-than-honorable discharges can lead to a denial of VA benefits. Vokey calls it a Catch-22, referring to the no-win situation showcased in Joseph Heller's 1961 satirical war novel Catch-22.

"The Marine Corps has created these mental health issues" in combat veterans, Vokey says, "and then we just kind of kick them out into the streets."

Characters in Catch-22 were caught in a contradiction. They could be relieved of dangerous flying missions if crazy. But if they claimed to be crazy, they were deemed sane for trying to avoid danger and had to keep flying.

In Iraq, Marines who perform wel

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:43 AM

I'm sure it's CNN who bails on liberals. I don't think Paulas Zahn is pulling the strings on her show.

Posted by: KevinK at November 2, 2006 10:44 AM

Probably same reason, Ann Coulter was maybe the guest, and she wouldnt come on without Foxnews pundits licking her boots ready to turn off her opponents mic. Cheaters dont play of they cant cheat the way they normally do.

Sounds like a sick novel. Rumsfeld Forever. Cheney Unleashed. A Bush to remember.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:44 AM


Pentagon Launches Pre-Emptive Strike on Media - 2 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-S70ewn1Ds&eurl=

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:44 AM

I guess that means the soldiers can tell Rumsfeld to Fuck Off.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 10:46 AM

Revealed: U.S. Soldier Killed Herself After Objecting to Interrogation Techniques

By Greg Mitchell
Editor & Publisher
Wednesday, November 1, 2006

The true stories of how American troops, killed in Iraq, actually died keep spilling out this week. On Tuesday, we explored the case of Kenny Stanton, Jr., murdered last month by our allies, the Iraqi police, though the military didn’t make that known at the time. Now we learn that one of the first female soldiers killed in Iraq died by her own hand after objecting to interrogation techniques used on prisoners....

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:46 AM

Then Tony Snow comes out and says we Liberal may have anger managment. Is that why Bush pre emptively attacked Iraq, because hes so cool and calm? Bullshit.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:47 AM

Feeding children hot dogs increases their risk of brain cancer by 300%?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 10:48 AM

" looks like the rethugs are hedging their bets and pulling their cash out."

That's because if the Democrats win, they'll ruin the economy. They won't be able to perform as incredibly as the Republicans, delivering an average of about 300 points to the S&P every 2 years, using foreign debt, tax breaks, outsourcing, and "free trade". Futhermore, they won't be able to artificially inflate market values by pouring Social Security money in "personal accounts".

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:48 AM

issues, anger managment issues. Id like to see him tell me I have anger managment problems to my face. Then I could look right at him and go,"Na, not really.".

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:49 AM

Repost: Check the video of the rat paralyzed then walking!


http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2006/06_20_06.html
HOPKINS SCIENTISTS USE EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS, NEW CUES TO AWAKEN LATENT MOTOR NERVE REPAIR

In a dramatic display of stem cells’ potential for healing, a team of Johns Hopkins scientists reports that they’ve engineered new, completed, fully-working motor neuron circuits -- neurons stretching from spinal cord to target muscles -- in paralyzed adult animals.

The research, in which mouse embryonic stem (ES) cells were injected into rats whose virus-damaged spinal cords model nerve disease, shows that such cells can be made to re-trace complex pathways of nerve development long shut off in adult mammals, the researchers say.

“This is proof of the principle that we can recapture what happens in early stages of motor neuron development and use that to repair damaged nervous systems,” says Douglas Kerr, M.D., Ph.D., a neurologist who led the Hopkins team.

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 10:49 AM

I found ways to vent. Venting is important. People who dont vent thier anger, preemptivly attack Iraq, I would imagine.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:50 AM

And as long as we are getting into semantics...

Rumsfield "knows where the bodies are"

How insensitive of Boehner since bodies were literally buried there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CeeCee at November 2, 2006 10:52 AM

From Kevin's Blog
NUMBERS OF NOTE

Discontent over the Iraq war will be the deciding factor in how Americans vote, according to the final New York Times/CBS poll before the 7 November elections.

The survey suggests only 29% of Americans approve of the way Mr Bush is handling the war, matching his lowest rating in a May-June poll.

Nearly 70% said the president did not have a plan to end the war, and 80% said his latest effort to rally public support added up to a change in language, not policy.

Three-quarters of those polled expect the Democrats to reduce or end US military involvement in Iraq if they win control of Congress.

Half of independent voters said they intended to vote for Democrats, compared with 23% who said they would vote for Republicans. Both parties are seeking to win over the undecided members of the electorate.
...

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:53 AM

Army General Retires, Blames Abu Ghraib

Former Commander of U.S. Forces in Iraq Retires, Says Abu Ghraib Scandal Ruined His Career

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2622954&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

McALLEN, Texas Nov 2, 2006 (AP)— Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who served a tumultuous year as commander of all U.S. forces in Iraq, retired from the Army on Wednesday, calling his career a casualty of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

"That's the key reason, the sole reason, that I was forced to retire," Sanchez said for a story in Thursday's editions of The (McAllen) Monitor. "I was essentially not offered another position in either a three-star or four-star command."

Sanchez had been a candidate to become the next commander of U.S. Southern Command but was passed over after the prisoner abuse scandal exploded into an international controversy. He was criticized by some for not doing more to avoid mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners.

An Army spokeswoman declined comment early Thursday.

The Army's inspector general, Lt. Gen. Stanley E. Green, concluded last year that allegations of criminal wrongdoing by Sanchez were unsubstantiated.

Sanchez, 55, served for 33 years. As commander of the Army's 5th Corps in 2003, he issued three memos authorizing harsher interrogation techniques such as stress positions, sleep deprivation and dogs at Abu Ghraib but only with written authorization.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:53 AM

Exactly how many bodies can you transport for $50 Billion?

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:53 AM

EU To Give $3.2 Million To Afghanistan

The European Commission today said that it will give $3.2 million to help alleviate the affects of severe drought in Afghanistan.

The European Union estimates that 2.5 million people have been affected by the drought in the past year. The funds are intended to bring water and food to those affected by the drought. Since 2004, the EU has given $98 million in humanitarian aid to Afghanistan.

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:54 AM

You know whats funny. John Boehner would rather be associated with a poisonous gas or fog, than an erection.

This about it when you want to know how preemptive war happens.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:55 AM

not "this" think,

Think about that when you want to know how preemptive war happens.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 10:56 AM

Take it to him, Sam!

Posted by: CeeCee at November 2, 2006 10:57 AM

this guy mark is a remarkable mealy-mouthed assmonkey

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 10:58 AM

Taxes can be used to improve standards of living? What a concept.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:58 AM

i mean, long is. dan.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 10:58 AM

Unpunished shooting in Iraq triggered desertion, soldier says
Army reneges on deal, lawyer argues

By Katya Cengel

When Kyle Snyder left for Iraq in late 2004, he thought he was going to use his engineering training to rebuild the war-ravaged country. Instead, he operated a .50-caliber machine gun in a Humvee, escorting military officials in Mosul.

In March 2005, he said, he saw another soldier shoot and injure a civilian Iraqi man. But the soldier, he said, was never disciplined.

That's when he changed his mind about the war, and what he was doing there, said Snyder, now 23.

"If that's the way that the commanding officers in my unit were looking at these types of situations … that's the wrong answer, that's not professional at all, and it's surely not the reason I had joined," Snyder said.
...

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 10:59 AM

We should give Texas to the Mexicans!

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 10:59 AM

On Day of the Dead, life is tense in Oaxaca
Protests, old grudges divide city's residents

By Antonio Olivo
Tribune staff reporter
Published November 2, 2006
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0611020253nov02,1,5001387.story?track=rss

OAXACA, Mexico -- The spirits of the dead rose again as they do every year here, only this time over the burned and graffiti-covered tatters of a cultural treasure steeped in anger and resentment.

At the start of Day of the Dead celebrations that helped make Oaxaca a famous destination for tourists, federal police filled the town square instead while locals shouted insults at each other in opposing protests. Tensions remained high in a five-month power struggle that has led to at least nine deaths and effectively shut down the beloved city.

On Wednesday, as some businesses reopened and residents again ventured outside, mourners tended altars honoring those killed during what started out as a teachers strike. Just blocks away were the police who stormed the city over the weekend in an attempt to end a chaotic stalemate that has kept the rest of Mexico on edge.

The shrines, including several dedicated to Bradley Roland Will, an American documentary filmmaker shot to death last week, stood near fire-blackened hulls of buses and cars used as street barricades by protesters seeking to oust state Gov. Ulises Ruiz, an iron-fisted holdover from the days when the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, ruled the country for seven decades.

Authorities said Wednesday that two people, both municipal officials of a neighboring city, were in custody in connection with Will's death.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 10:59 AM

Christians rally against war

The underlying sentiment expressed at a march and rally Wednesday in downtown Seattle -- that the United States should withdraw from Iraq -- is hardly unusual in the bluest part of a blue state.

But what set the event apart was that participants were Christians, albeit self-described progressives or moderates, who said their actions were rooted in faith. They feel overshadowed by secular protesters and conservative Christians.
...
Organizers want to influence Tuesday's congressional elections. They said U.S. foreign policy is at odds with Christian beliefs about living peaceable lives, loving and praying for enemies, and seeking justice.
...
But after that tragedy, "the Bush administration chose a path based on fear and revenge, and squandered the compassion that brought us together at home and renewed our kinship with peoples abroad," it said. "As followers of Jesus we are compelled to choose another way."
...

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 11:01 AM

Not to mention the tax breaks (mortgage interest deduction) he gets throughout the years. And if he reinvests that money within a certain period he doesn't pay capital gains as I understand it. But I have never had the occasion to deal with that aspect of taxes.

Posted by: CeeCee at November 2, 2006 11:01 AM

We should give Texas to the Mexicans!

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 10:59 AM

how much should we charge 'em??

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:02 AM

Remember that Finegold purposed raising the ciling of the estate tax from a 7 millon dollars start ceiling, to a 150 million dollar ceiling, and it was defeated on party lines because Sam Waltons kids wouldnt think that was good enough. So you wouldnt pay estate tax until you left that much -150 million- and they still said no.

Cause rich kids think they deserve that money. They lived under their rich parents roof a lot of years, when not at boarding school... working hard on their tan to to earn every penny of their parents money.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:03 AM

taxes are the price we pay for living together as a community. its always amazing how those who benefit the most from infrastructure want to pay the least.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:03 AM

Reuters: Democrats
have shot at Senate control
Democrats have at least slim leads in races for six of the seven most vulnerable Republican Senate seats, giving them a shot at winning control of the Senate on Tuesday, according to Reuters/Zogby polls released on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061102/pl_nm/usa_elections_poll_dc

May the fairness gods prevail!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:03 AM

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:48 AM...

Bushco's Corporate Welfare Program is likely to get a bit of well deserved scrutiny.

Welfare reform for the rich.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:04 AM

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

- The Beatles

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 11:04 AM

Reading my last post, I just realized the Republican problem. They're dyslexic. When asked what is required to keep this nation strong, their answer is "Texas".

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:04 AM

We should give Texas to the Mexicans!

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 10:59 AM

how much should we charge 'em??

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:02 AM

considering what texas has given us, we'd have to pay them to take it back.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:04 AM

Has anyone ever said, the government took half my inheritence so I only had a half a billion dollars to start with instead of a whole billion. and thats why my business failed and I live on the streets now? Has anyone ever sais that cause thats the guy who needs his ass kicked.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:06 AM

" looks like the rethugs are hedging their bets and pulling their cash out."

That's because if the Democrats win, they'll ruin the economy. They won't be able to perform as incredibly as the Republicans, delivering an average of about 300 points to the S&P every 2 years, using foreign debt, tax breaks, outsourcing, and "free trade". Futhermore, they won't be able to artificially inflate market values by pouring Social Security money in "personal accounts".

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 10:48 AM

you're right. the economy could certainly use some clintonian ruining.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:07 AM

hey sam, remember its not a death tax, its the paris hilton slut tax.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:08 AM

Morning gang!

"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are,

first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy,

and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."

Edward Dowling

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:09 AM

FBI questions two more former aides to Harris
By ANITA KUMAR, Times Staff Writer
Published November 2, 2006

WASHINGTON - Federal investigators have interviewed at least two more former chiefs of staff to U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris as part of a federal inquiry into her relationship with a convicted defense contractor.

Dan Berger and Ben McKay, who both worked for Harris in her first term and are now lobbyists in Washington, confirmed the interviews this week and said it was their understanding all congressional staff would likely be questioned. The two spoke separately to three investigators from the FBI and the Defense Department in Washington several weeks ago.

The Justice and Defense departments are examining Harris' dealings with Mitchell Wade, who made illegal campaign contributions to Harris and paid for at least two dinners with her at a tony Georgetown restaurant that totaled about $6,000. Later Wade asked Harris to help secure $10-million in federal money for a company project in Sarasota.

Federal authorities have subpoenaed records from Harris' U.S. Senate campaign office and have interviewed several former staffers, including senior campaign consultant Ed Rollins, campaign manager Jim Dornan and Mona Tate Yost, a congressional aide who later went to work for Wade.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/11/02/State/FBI_questions_two_mor.shtml

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:09 AM

Another Racist Republican.
Rafeal Arza quit this morning for using the N word and even though CNN online is running the story they are calling him a Florida lawmaker nothing in the story about him being a republican.

Posted by: RussD at November 2, 2006 11:10 AM

Corporate Welfare Reform Bill...

Dems could gain a lot of traction with the public with that kind of proposal.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:10 AM

this schmuck is still on?

he REAALY thinks the Repubs give a rat's ass about him or his dad?

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:10 AM

7 Million dollars is chimp change.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:11 AM

Aristocracy

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:12 AM

this schmuck is still on?

he REAALY thinks the Repubs give a rat's ass about him or his dad?

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:10 AM

just another kool aid drinker

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:12 AM

this guy is living in a pipe dream.

How about training the rich to wield a hammer on their own.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM


He doesn't want the rich to pay taxes.

But welfare Moms, ho dare you.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM

well duh, if i had more money than i needed to get by, then i would spend it on nice things to.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM

Has anyone ever said that cause thats the guy who needs his ass kicked.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:06 AM

a panacea for chronic assholism

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:15 AM


Meet my neighbor, the burger flipping multi-billionaire. He's paying his taxes.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:15 AM

this guy is living in a pipe dream.

How about training the rich to wield a hammer on their own.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM


nah, lets just teach them to fish

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:15 AM

15,000 back when that house was built could maybe buy more back then then 150,000 could now.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:15 AM

"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress; but I repeat myself."

- Mark Twain

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:16 AM

taxes.

indeed, u get what u pay 4

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:16 AM


What I meant to say.

He doesn't want the rich to pay taxes.

But Welfare Moms, how dare they.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 2, 2006 11:16 AM

Hasn't Denny Hastert proved that?

Posted by: CeeCee at November 2, 2006 11:16 AM

We can tax the rich so they can pay for a back to work program for themselves. I could use one for mowing my lawn.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:16 AM

Labor costs rose 3.8% in Q3 while productivity slowed to a standstill

The Labor Department said Thursday that productivity, the amount of output per hour of work, showed no change in the July-September quarter while labor costs rose by 3.8%. For the past year, labor costs are up 5.3%, fastest increase since 1982.

FACTORY ORDERS MIXED: Weak ex-transportation

In other economic news, the number of newly laid off workers filing claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly shot up last week to the highest level in more than three months. A total of 327,000 fired employees filed benefit claims, up 18,000 from the previous week.

The total number of jobless claims, which are adjusted for normal seasonal variations, was the highest since early July and raised concerns about whether the slowing economy is finally beginning to push companies to lay off workers.

The flat productivity reading in the third quarter was the poorest showing since a 0.1% decline in productivity in the final three months last year. Over the past four quarters, productivity has risen 1.3%, weakest showing since a 1.1% rise in early 1997.

The 3.8% rise in the cost of labor per unit of output followed even bigger gains of 9% in the first quarter and 5.4% in the second quarter. Those increases pushed labor costs up 5.3% for the year ended in September, biggest gain since late 1982.

The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates 17 times in an effort to slow the economy enough to bring inflation pressures under control. Most recently, the Fed has left rates unchanged at three straight meetings, hoping that it has done enough to slow economic growth.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/productivity/2006-11-02-labor-costs-productivity_x.htm?csp=34

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:17 AM

Oooooh...I hear The Cure...

Posted by: A. at November 2, 2006 11:17 AM

good point sam. this country is being driven into bankruptcy by tax cuts for the rich. the unspoken part is the very rich and privileged actually want to see this disintegration because they would quite happy being feudal landlords.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:18 AM

Love You SAM!

Posted by: CeeCee at November 2, 2006 11:18 AM

nah, lets just teach them to fish

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:15 AM

"teach a man to fish--he'll eat a fish a day.

teach a man to counterfeit fishing licences, he can buy a bass boat in a year"

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:18 AM

"For nearly 2000 years Western Civilization has rested on a contradiction --

between a philosophy and a religion which teachs them that all men are brothers,

and an economic system which organizes them as masters and servants."


RN Hunt

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:18 AM

Bush wants to pay deficits with Mayan gold. He attacks countries looking for a new supply of Mayan gold. Trying to recreate the eco boom of colonialism.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:19 AM

Oops, I misspelled Rafael Arza (Republican racist) in above post.

Posted by: RussD at November 2, 2006 11:19 AM

bravo Sam. I don't recall the last time I heard it explained so well.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:19 AM

Mayan gold, and slaves.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:20 AM

We could offer the rich an option. pay your taxes or serve in Iraq for the number of years you want to live tax free.

Posted by: chIMPEACHer at November 2, 2006 11:20 AM

See, all the rich fat fucks in this country think,"Well, it worked once.".

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:20 AM

"I have opinions of my own --

strong opinions--

but I don't always agree with them."

George H. W. Bush

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:21 AM

Allen's Options
Why did a beleaguered hi-tech company grant 50,000 stock options to George Allen on the eve of his 2000 election to the Senate -- and his departure from the company's board?
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 11.01.06

http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=12180

On October 20, 2000 -- just 18 days before former Virginia Governor George Allen was elected to the U.S. Senate -- Xybernaut, a Virginia-based technology company, on whose board Allen served, held an early annual shareholder meeting and awarded Allen a tidy bonus of 50,000 stock options. Allen was granted the stock as part of his re-election to the board at a time when polls showed him to be the favorite in the impending senate election against Democrat Chuck Robb, and when it was clear that he would have to resign his board seat if and when he became a senator. Senate rules forbid members from serving on corporate boards.

The issuance of these options, whose existence is confirmed by the Form Five filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that The American Prospect is posting in conjunction with this piece, raises questions about why Xybernaut (which filed for bankruptcy in 2005) granted them to Allen so soon before his election to the Senate, and what, if anything, the company expected in return for them. Stock options, a controversial form of director compensation, "are designed to encourage future risk taking and align the interest of the director with the interests of the shareholder," says attorney Beth Young, a corporate governance expert now lecturing at Harvard Law School. Re-electing a director who might have to resign within weeks "is a little unusual," she says, and granting him additional options prior to his anticipated departure at an early annual meeting is "very unusual."

Allen's campaign has struggled to explain his financial relationship with Xybernaut. An attorney for Allen told reporters as recently as this October that all of the senator's stock options expired within 90 days of his resignation from the Xybernaut board in December 2000. However, in

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:21 AM

You guys got Aerosmith "Eat the Rich"?

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:22 AM

"There ain't that many millionaires dyin' over in Iraq."

Nice fucking rant, Sammer!

*

Taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society.

-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 11:23 AM

parting shot--

"Few people foresaw the consequences of Bush's radicalism, perhaps least of all Bush himself. Last week, I was in Austin for the Texas Book Festival, where I met a woman who had encountered then Gov. Bush immediately after the Supreme Court handed down its decision in Bush v. Gore. "Can you believe I'm going to be the fucking president?" he said."

--Blumenthal

PEACHES!

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:24 AM

"For the past year, labor costs are up 5.3%, fastest increase since 1982."

That can't be because we're making more. It must just be "restructuring" cost. Either that or India just got a raise.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:25 AM

Meatball Love!!!

Posted by: The Captain and Schlemiel at November 2, 2006 11:26 AM

Zogby, Syracuse Media Still Polls Apart


Wednesday, Nov. 1; 3:07 pm

The saga of the missing polls continued in New York’s 25th district Wednesday, as two media outlets declined to run the results of a survey they had paid for by Zogby International on the contest between Rep. Jim Walsh (R) and ex-House aide Dan Maffei (D).

The Post-Standard newspaper in Syracuse and WSYR-TV had asked Zogby to conduct a second poll of the race after the pollster acknowledged that his firm had improperly weighted the results of a survey last week. In that case, Zogby polled the 25th district but then weighted the data using voter registration information from the more-Republican 24th district.

Zogby promised the two media outlets that he would do a new poll from scratch, but when the results of that survey came in both declined to run them. Jim Tortora, the news director of WSYR-TV, wrote on the station’s Web site that after consulting with outside polling experts, he was concerned that Zogby had conducted the second poll using the same larger sample of 5,000 likely voters as he had on the first survey.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollcall.com%2Fissues%2F1_1%2Felection06%2F15742-1.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:27 AM

"We have a new type of rule now.

Not one man rule or rule of aristocracy or plutocracy,

But of small groups elevated to positions of absolute power

By random pressures and subject to political and economic factors

That leave little room for decision.

They're representatives of abstract forces

Who've reached power through surrender of self.

The Iron-Will Dictator is a thing of the past.

There will be no more Stalins, no more Hitlers.

The rulers of this most insecure of all worlds

Are rulers by accident,

Inept, frightened pilots at the controls Of a vast machine they cannot understand,

Calling in experts to tell them which buttons to push."

William S. Burroughs

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:29 AM

"For the past year, labor costs are up 5.3%, fastest increase since 1982."

That can't be because we're making more. It must just be "restructuring" cost. Either that or India just got a raise.

Posted by: blueGeorgian at November 2, 2006 11:25 AM

Skewed Accounting! Even unemployment info Skewed!

The article is going by the figures given by the gov't office. Even with that, the putlook isn't good.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:29 AM

putlook s/b outlook

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:30 AM

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off;

never admit a fault or wrong;

never concede that there may be some good in your enemy;

never leave room for alternatives;

never accept blame;

concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong;

people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one;

and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

--OSS report on Adolph Hitler

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:32 AM

Well I woke up this morning
On the wrong side of the bed
And how I got to thinkin'
About all those things you said
About ordinary people
And how they make you sick
And if callin names kicks back on you
Then I hope this does the trick

'Cause I'm sick of your complainin'
About how many bills
And I'm sick of all your bitchin'
'Bout your poodles and your pills
And I just can't see no humor
About your way of life
And I think I can do more for you
With this here fork and knife

chorus:
Eat the Rich: there's only one thing that they're good for
Eat the Rich: take one bite now - come back for more
Eat the Rich: I gotta get this off my chest
Eat the Rich: take one bite now, spit out the rest

So I called up my head shrinker
And told him what I done
He said you best go on a diet
Yeah I hope you have some fun
And a don't go burst a bubble
On rich folk who get rude
'Cause you won't get in no trouble
When you eats that kind of food
Now they're smoking up their junk bonds
And then they go get stiff
And they're dancing at the yacht club
With Muff and Uncle Biff
But there's one good thing that happens

When you toss your pearls to swine
Their attitudes may taste like shit
But go real good with wine

chorus

Believe in all the good things
That money just can't buy
Then you won't get no bellyache
From eatin' humble pie
I believe in rags to riches
Your inheritance won't last
So take your Grey Poupon my friend
And shove it up your ass!

chorus:
Eat the Rich: there's only one thing that they're good for
Eat the Rich: take one bite now - come back for more
Eat the Rich: don't stop me now I'm goin' crazy
Eat the Rich: that's my idea of a good time baby

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:32 AM

Former White House spokesman warns oil prices may 'jack up' after election

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday November 2, 2006

Former White House spokesman warns that oil prices may be "jacked up" by the Saudis and U.S. oil company executives after the election, RAW STORY has learned.

In an Op-Ed published in Thursday's Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Democratic strategist Robert Weiner writes, "Enjoy the price of gasoline now, because when the Saudis lower production, we could go right back to the $3 nightmare of three months ago."

Weiner once served as public affairs director for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy under President Clinton and as spokesman for the U.S. House Government Operations Committee.

Weiner's Washington issue strategies group issued a press release trumpeting the column, which was co-written by Richard Bangs, a Senior Policy Analyst at Robert Weiner Associates, which partly derives from comments that Washington Post investigative reporter Bob Woodward made on CBS's 60 Minutes two years ago, when promoting his Plan of Attack book.

"Gas prices that have plummeted 80 cents in the past three months are helping the economy, but the cost could shoot right back up when the Saudis lower production after the election," the press release states.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Former_White_House_spokesman_warns_oil_1102.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:35 AM

Notice there isnt a song called "Eat the Poor".

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:35 AM

"Nixon often referred to "the other side" in justifying his repressive moves.

The enemy is whomever keeps one from power.

Brezhnev and Mao become allies, useful in keeping one another in office.

Villagers bombed in Cambodia [Iraq] are not enemies. They aren't even people.

The real enemies of the Republican regimes of Nixon and Reagan are liberals, Democrats, secular humanists, feminists, and the ungrateful minorities and the dissenting young."

Timothy Leary

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:36 AM

I just heard Bush is in town today.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:38 AM

I just heard hes here in town today to support Jim Talent.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:39 AM

URGENT REMINDER - Please urge everyone you know in California to vote NO on Prop 85. This is the same old hideous manuever the extremists tried last year. It has nothing to do with teens and family communication, but everything to do with assualting a woman's right to privacy and sovereignty over her own body.

Posted by: Sue at November 2, 2006 11:40 AM

Man claims 3-year sexual relationship with pastor

DENVER - A gay man and admitted male escort claims he has had an ongoing sexual relationship with a well-known Evangelical pastor from Colorado Springs.

Mike Jones told 9 Wants to Know Investigative Reporter Paula Woodward he has had a "sexual business" relationship with Pastor Ted Haggard for the past three years.

Haggard is the founder and senior leader of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. The church has 14,000 members.

He is also president of the National Association of Evangelicals, an organization that represents millions of people.

Haggard is married with five children and an outspoken critic of gay marriage.

Jones broke his silence Wednesday morning on talk radio.

In an exclusive interview Wednesday night, Haggard denied the claims and told 9NEWS he is prepared for his own church to investigate them.

"I did not have a homosexual relationship with a man in Denver," said Haggard. "I am steady with my wife. I'm faithful to my wife."

"I don't know if this is election year politics or if this has to do with the marriage amendment or what it is, but I'm not even the guy who will investigate it or question it. I don't know what the dynamics are, but this independent group will come in and do that."

Jones started talking to 9 Wants to Know two months ago. He claims Haggard has been paying him for sex over the past three years, even though Haggard preaches that homosexuality is a sin.

Jones also claims Haggard used methamphetamine in his presence on several occasions.

"People may look at me and think what I've done is immoral, but I think I had to do the moral thing in my mind and that is expose someone who is preaching one thing and doing the opposite behind everybody's back," said Jones.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=4525fe63-ac1f-02d8-002a-f131478a1f55

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:42 AM

Why are tax rates & taxation polices different depending on whether one works for a salary or receives cap gains/investment income?

Why are cap gains/investment income not subject to FICA?

Why is there an income cap on FICA taxes?

Why should some rich trust-fund motherfucker, who's never worked a day in their life, pay a 15% nominal rate on their "gains" (income!), when my wife & I pay 30%+ for working?

Why can a corporation legally accelerate or defer its income into years were that action minimizes their effective rates, and indiviuals who work for a living cannot?

Why is it that a business enitity is able to deduct from its income the cost of producing that income, and an individual cannot?

Why?

"Equal protection under the law," my pasty white Norwegian ass!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 11:42 AM

BLOGGED BY Brad ON 11/2/2006 3:32AM
HERE WE GO AGAIN: 'Just Push the Yellow Button and Vote as Many Times as You Want' on Sequoia Touch-Screen Voting Machines!
New Vulnerability Discovered on Touch-Screen Systems Made by One of Country's Largest Voting Machine Companies Will Affect Elections in Dozens of States!
California's Secretary of State Bruce McPherson Denies Knowledge of Vulnerability Well After His Office Had Been Notified…
"Just push the yellow button and you can vote as many times as you want," Tom Courbat, an Election Integrity advocate from Riverside County, California informed The BRAD BLOG tonight. Not that we're in any mood to report more such stories, but this seems to be a big one. A very big one.

It seems there's a little yellow button on the back every touch-screen computer made by Sequoia Voting Systems, that allows any voter, or poll worker, or precinct inspector to set the system into "Manual Mode" allowing them to cast as many votes as they want.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3714

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:44 AM

Ah, he'll be in Joplin today and Springfield tomorrow. The Talent Rally will be at 9 Am so people will show up early probably and its at the Expo center on St Loius Street just off the corner of National. Huge building, lady says, cant miss it.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:45 AM

St Louis Ave. and National Ave. 9 AM Springfield Mo. Expo Center.

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:46 AM

sid!

speak it!

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:48 AM

I wonder if they will still allow that low flying plane with the "Say no on Cloning" banner to fly, or if the pilot of that plane will have his seat next to the gargoyl himself?

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:48 AM

Evangelicals flex growing clout in Nicaragua's election
By Sara Miller Llana | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

MANAGUA, NICARAGUA – When Nicaragua passed one of the strictest abortion laws in the hemisphere last week, critics charged the Catholic Church with flexing political muscle ahead of next week's presidential election.
Yet, to lobby for the bill, Catholics invited evangelical Protestants to join a massive protest last month - a rare act of collaboration and a window into evangelicals' growing political sway in this predominantly Catholic country.

Evangelicals in Nicaragua were once overlooked as outcasts. Now no political contender can afford to alienate them. All but one of the leading presidential candidates, including Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega, supported their bid to ban all forms of abortion, even if a mother's life is in danger.

Their ascent has been among the most dramatic in Latin America. At the end of the 1970s, only five percent of Nicaraguans were evangelicals. Now they account for more than 20 percent - some say more than 30 percent - of the population. Their political clout is mounting as fast as the cavernous churches popping up along Managua's highways. They are running for office, partnering with Catholics, and forcing social change - which could augur a new exercise of power among evangelicals throughout the region.

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.csmonitor.com%2F2006%2F1102%2Fp01s02-woam.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 11:49 AM

Notice there isnt a song called "Eat the Poor".

Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:35 AM

the poor are too tough & sinewy, the rich are nicely marbled.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 11:50 AM

now thats good news. the rethuglicans will become a small regional party after the election returns us to a democracy.

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:50 AM

from toni D[arlin's] post:

"I did not have a homosexual relationship with a man in Denver," said Haggard. "I am steady with my wife. I'm faithful to my wife."

"Yeah. We only did the nasty in Colorado Springs." *snark*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 11:55 AM

I just heard Bush is in town today.
Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:38 AM
I just heard hes here in town today to support Jim Talent.
Posted by: daniel at November 2, 2006 11:39 AM
-------------------------------------------------
The Republican party is having a Springfield sleepover! Bring your jammies.

Posted by: Crank Bait at November 2, 2006 11:56 AM

"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.

When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.

When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.

Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all."

-Tim Freeman

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:56 AM

yeah! sammy cam friday

Posted by: blah blah blah at November 2, 2006 11:57 AM

The Republican party is having a Springfield sleepover! Bring your jammies.
Posted by: Crank Bait at November 2, 2006 11:56 AM
------------------------------------------------
(Talent will be on loan from god.)

Posted by: Crank Bait at November 2, 2006 11:58 AM

I just want all you "down and outers" to know that we rich Republicans feel your pain.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 11:59 AM

rom toni D[arlin's] post:

"I did not have a homosexual relationship with a man in Denver," said Haggard. "I am steady with my wife. I'm faithful to my wife."

"Yeah. We only did the nasty in Colorado Springs." *snark*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 11:55 AM

Does the wording sound familiar!

"I didn't have sex with that woman" Clinton Heh!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:00 PM

(Talent will be on loan from god.)
Posted by: Crank Bait at November 2, 2006 11:58 AM
---------------------------------------------
Sometimes I McCaskill myself!

Posted by: Crank "Slapping Own Knee" Bait at November 2, 2006 12:01 PM

"I am steady with my wife"

thanks for the neurological update, ya homo.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 12:03 PM

Posted by: Crank "Slapping Own Knee" Bait at November 2, 2006 12:01 PM

u got 2 stop, yo.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 12:04 PM

I just want all you "down and outers" to know that we rich Republicans feel your pain.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 11:59 AM

http://www.neuticles.com/

Neuticles!

Posted by: Bob26003 at November 2, 2006 12:04 PM

Scientists say White House muzzled them By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Nov 1, 11:43 PM ET


Two federal agencies are investigating whether the Bush administration tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and censor their research, a senator said Wednesday.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (news, bio, voting record), D-N.J., said he was informed that the inspectors general for the Commerce Department and NASA had begun "coordinated, sweeping investigations of the Bush administration's censorship and suppression" of federal research into global warming.

"These investigations are critical because the Republicans in Congress have ignored this serious problem," Lautenberg said.

He said the investigations "will uncover internal documents and agency correspondence that may expose widespread misconduct." He added, "Taxpayers do not fund scientific research so the Bush White House can alter it."

Messages left Wednesday at the offices of the inspectors general, which serve as the agencies' internal watchdogs, were not immediately returned.

Kristen Hellmer, a spokeswoman for the White House Council for Environmental Quality, said Wednesday night that the administration has supported the scientific process in its approach to studying climate change.

"We have in place the most transparent system of science reporting, and claims that the administration interfered with scientists are false," Hellmer said. "Our focus is on taking action and making real progress in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The nearly $2 billion worth of climate science we publish annually leads the world and speaks for itself."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_go_co/global_warming_3&printer=1

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:04 PM

Things just keep adding up on the Bush admin. There isn't a week that goes by that something the admin has done in the shadows shows up. Thank God they are incompetent! If they were really good at what they do, we wouldn't know about it.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:07 PM

"down and outed"

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 12:08 PM

"I just want all you "down and outers" to know that we rich Republicans feel your pain."

Anonymous Coward


"There are men - now in power in this country - who do not respect dissent, who cannot cope with turmoil, and who believe that the people of America are ready to support repression as long as it is done with a quiet voice and a business suit."

John Lindsay

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 12:10 PM

Polls back Democrats five days before US vote Thu Nov 2, 9:01 AM ET


WASHINGTON (AFP) - The battle to control the US Congress has entered the final stretch with another poll showing the Democrats likely to benefit from voter anger over the Iraq war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/ts_afp/usvote_061102125857

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:11 PM

"I didn't have sex with that woman" Clinton Heh!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:00 PM

When I did my time in Tex-ass, one of the good ol' boy sayings that struck me was: Eatin' ain't cheatin'!

I wonder if dear Pickles & Lynne subscribe to that interpretation, too? *snark*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 12:12 PM

Michael Ware: “The Most Dominant Feeling (in Iraq) Is Fear”
By: Jamie Holly @ 9:05 AM - PST

Michael Ware gave his assessment of the military chart the New York Times published yesterday that showed the level of violence in Iraq is nearing chaos.

Video - WMV Video - QT

Ware: "When you walk on an Iraqi street today. When you go down any avenue here in Baghdad, the most dominant feeling. The most gripping emotion amongst people is fear and that feeling is legitimate"

Ware says that the chart is the most accurate assessment of the situation in Iraq, despite the "tonnage of words" used by politicians and generals to spin the situation into something better.

Of course we can't talk about the carnage that is Iraq, because we got more important things to do - like go after John Kerry for a botched joke. It's really nice to see a White House with it's priorities straight .

Update: John Amato says:

Iraq is within a fraction of all out Chaos! A picture really does tell a thousand words. Words that Bush doesn't want you to know. This graph is causing quite a stir in DC and the Bush cultists are freaking.

Kevin Drum: So how long until we hit 100 at the current rate? Answer: Just under six months. Even the U.S. military now thinks we have less than one Friedman before Iraq is hopelessly lost.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/02/11586/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:17 PM

"D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!WOOHOO!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!D'oh!......"

Homer Simpson monitoring his cholesterol level

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 12:24 PM

Ex-CIA Chief Goss Considering Tell All Book...
Time | TIMOTHY J. BURGER, ADAM ZAGORIN | November 2, 2006 11:34 AM

Is Porter Goss getting ready to throw the book at his critics? The former director of the Central Intelligence Agency -- and the last man to head the U.S. intelligence community in the storied old post of Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) -- tells TIME he's giving serious consideration to writing a book about his experience.

Goss stresses that he won't decide for sure until after next week's election - and a person close to the former CIA director says Goss is also considering other options, from teaching to consulting. And even if he does write a book, Washington insiders and intelligence operatives who may be salivating-or trembling-at the prospect of a kiss-and-tell may be disappointed. "I'm looking at doing a book that would make a positive contribution. This is not about gotcha," says Goss. "I've been keeping my mouth shut for two years."

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1553644,00.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:25 PM

Frank Rich: "What I've Found Everywhere... Is A Tremendous Sense Of Frustration At Having Been Misled And Lied To About The Iraq War."
Eat The Press | November 2, 2006 10:53 AM

Over at Radar, Charles Kaiser has a meaty interview with Frank Rich about his book, The Greatest Story Ever Sold, and his views on the dissemblings, obfuscations, and behind-the-scenes-machinations of the Bush administration. What he's found while on his book tour may be instructive on the eve of the election. After describing one incident of an audience member in New York questioning him on whether Saddam Hussein was a WMD in his own right, he goes on to take the temperature of the rest of the country:

What I've found everywhere else--whether in Seattle or Kansas City, though Houston is yet to come--is a tremendous sense of frustration at having been misled and lied to about the Iraq war, an appetite for harder-hitting media that can be trusted, and concern about whether the Democrats will be any better at leading the country out of the morass.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/11/02/frank-rich-what-ive-fo_e_33082.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:27 PM

Businesses may move health care overseas By MALCOLM FOSTER and MARGIE MASON, Associated Press Writers
16 minutes ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_he_me/outsourcing_health

NEW DELHI, India - Businesses and insurance companies are starting to eye the potential savings of outsourcing health care from the world's richest country to the developing world.

"It's just one of the many ways in which our world is flattening," said Arnold Milstein, chief physician at New York-based Mercer Health & Benefits, who's researching the feasibility of outsourcing medical care for three Fortune 500 corporations. "Many companies see it as a natural extension of the competition they've faced in other aspects of their business."

With an estimated 45 million uninsured Americans, some 500,000 trekked overseas last year for medical treatment, according to the National Coalition on Health Care. Asian hospitals in Thailand, India and Singapore have long been swarmed by medical tourists looking for tummy tucks and face lifts, but many glitzy, marble-floored facilities are now gaining reputations for big-ticket procedures including heart surgery, knee and back operations.

Some American hospitals already rely on places like India for X-ray readings and other diagnostics, while also importing foreign doctors and nurses. But the U.S. health care industry has been largely immune to overseas competition — just one reason behind soaring costs.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:29 PM

And if some Doctor in India operates on you and botches the job...can you sue the Doctor? Will we have that safety net taken away also? What if that doctor removes the wron organ? or limb?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:32 PM

What if that doctor removes the wron organ? or limb?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:32 PM

Or even worse toni....they start inserting organs!

You go to the hospital to get your knee fixed and when you come out of surgery, you talk just
like Apu on the Simpsons.

Posted by: Peter Dragon at November 2, 2006 12:36 PM

You know if the dems win the House AND Senate that Dim Son will set a two-year record for preznint vetos. Of course, Georgie Boy would have to reserve time between depositions & testimony to wield that veto pen.

The very prospect of those things happening gives me a warm-n-fuzzy.

Projected New Senate: 50 Democrats, 49 [pukie people,] 1 tie

Projected New House*: 241 Democrats, 193 [pukes,] 1 Tie

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 12:43 PM

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 12:43 PM

Even vetos can be overidden by the congress with enough votes. If we have more moderate repubs in the minority, that is possible.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 12:56 PM

"For nearly 2000 years Western Civilization has rested on a contradiction --

between a philosophy and a religion which teachs them that all men are brothers,

and an economic system which organizes them as masters and servants."


RN Hunt

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 11:18 AM

-------

SJ

Great quote -- can you post a reference link please.

Posted by: DemonDuck at November 2, 2006 1:04 PM

Investors told to buy stocks now, because oil will go up after elections
New York Global/Securities has published strong advice to buy "oil stocks and futures" to take advantage of a nearly certain post-election price increase.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20061101/pl_usnw/investors__like_consumers__see_politics_in_pre_election_oil_and_gasoline_pricing304_xml

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:08 PM

This is what we have to worry about with Bush if Dems win:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html

But like steroids, signing statements ultimately lead to serious trouble.

Relying On Command, Rather Than Persuasion

Phillip Cooper is a leading expert on signing statements. His 2002 book, By Order of the President: The Use and Abuse of Executive Direct Action, assesses the uses and abuses of signing statements by presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Cooper has updated his material in a recent essay for the Presidential Studies Quarterly, to encompass the use of signing statements by now-President Bush as well.

By Cooper's count, George W. Bush issued 23 signing statements in 2001; 34 statements in 2002, raising 168 constitutional objections; 27 statements in 2003, raising 142 constitutional challenges, and 23 statements in 2004, raising 175 constitutional criticisms. In total, during his first term Bush raised a remarkable 505 constitutional challenges to various provisions of legislation that became law.

That number may be approaching 600 challenges by now. Yet Bush has not vetoed a single bill, notwithstanding all these claims, in his own signing statements, that they are unconstitutional insofar as they relate to him.

Rather than veto laws passed by Congress, Bush is using his signing statements to effectively nullify them as they relate to the executive branch. These statements, for him, function as directives to executive branch departments and agencies as to how they are to implement the relevant law.

President Bush and the attorneys advising him may also anticipate that the signing statements will help him if and when the relevant laws are construed in court - for federal courts, depending on their views of executive power, may deem such statements relevant to their interpretation of a given law. After all, the law would not have passed had the President decided to veto it, so arguably, his view on what the law meant ought to (within reason) carry some weight for the court interpreting it. This is the argument, anyway.

Mo

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:16 PM

Guatemala, Venezuela withdraw from UN race; Panama to run

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/ts_afp/uncouncillatamvotepanama_061102054144

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:21 PM

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at November 2, 2006 12:43 PM

gol-dern, junior!

i was lookin' fer this'un!

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 1:23 PM

Improving America's Image
by John Brown, TomPaine.com

The best public diplomacy for America is the world seeing U.S. citizens rejecting Bush's policy in Iraq.

http://ga3.org/ct/X7w_p5614myR/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:25 PM

R. N. Hunt:


"Marxism and totalitarian democracy, 1818-1850"

by Richard N. Hunt

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Hunt,%20Richard%20N

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 1:27 PM

"I'll be "debating" Ann Coulter on CNN's Paula Zahn tonight."-Sam


Two reasons why she did not show up:

1)The republican Golwater clones don't want a free or fair debate so she shied away.
2)The witch thought Paula would host her appearance on Samhain, not with Sam Sedar. She feels like she was stood up. Besides, she can always say that times and dates are things she forgets, like her last trip to the ballot box...

Posted by: Mr.Murder at November 2, 2006 1:29 PM

Political-Ad-Review-A-Pallooza

Mark Fiore's latest cartoon takes you through the campaign ad strategies of both sides.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/11/02/political_ad_review.php

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:31 PM

R. N. Hunt:


"Marxism and totalitarian democracy, 1818-1850"

by Richard N. Hunt

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Hunt,%20Richard%20N

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 1:27 PM

---------

Thanks SJ. The reference I found was for a Robert Nigel Carew Hunt who also wrote in the same general topical area.

http://www.librarything.com/author/huntrncarew

Great bunch of quotes. I've saved them all...

Posted by: DemonDuck at November 2, 2006 1:34 PM

Ford cuts health benefits, merit pay 1 hour, 37 minutes ago

Salaried workers at Ford Motor Co. won't get pay raises next year and they'll pay more for health insurance under benefit changes announced by the struggling automaker.

In addition, Ford will stop providing health insurance for Medicare-eligible salaried retirees over 65 starting in January 2008, company spokeswoman Marcey Evans said Thursday.

Ford will give the retirees $1,800 that can be used to buy supplemental medical coverage, she said.

"The company wants to continue to be able to provide quality health benefits for employees and retirees and is just trying to find ways to balance the increased costs that we face each year," Evans said.

Ford lost $7.24 billion in the first nine months of the year and is cutting thousands of jobs and closing plants to cut costs over the next few years.

The latest cuts, announced to employees on Wednesday and reported by The Detroit News and Detroit Free Press, also include some good news. Ford is restoring a company match to its 401(k) plan, paying 60 cents on the dollar up to 5 percent of an employee's base salary.

But the merit pay cut and a 30 percent increase in health insurance contributions will mean that white-collar workers will receive less money from the company in 2007 than they received this year.

Ford also is ending its practice of paying employees before its annual holiday shutdown in December. This year the company will issue paychecks on Dec. 29 rather than Dec. 22, the company's last business day in December, saving $70 million in cash flow, Evans said.

Ford paid about $3.5 billion in 2005 for health insurance for about 550,000 people including retirees and surviving spouses, active employees and their dependents.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_bi_ge/ford_benefit_cuts&printer=1

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:34 PM

Ford paid about $3.5 billion in 2005 for health insurance for about 550,000 people including retirees and surviving spouses, active employees and their dependents.

So What do you think? Do we need universal health care?

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:36 PM

Posted by: Mr.Murder at November 2, 2006 1:29 PM

Please don't call Coulter a witch. It's insulting to Real Witches, who are very nice, tolerant people.

Posted by: Wick Ken at November 2, 2006 1:36 PM

Iran fires first longer-range missiles in war games
50 minutes ago
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran fired its longer-range Shahab-3 ballistic missile for the first time as it began 10 days of war games amid a mounting standoff with the West over its nuclear program, official media said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/wl_afp/iranmilitarymaneuvers_061102174047

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:38 PM

No one here has reported this, but Isreal is at it again on the Gaza:

Death toll rises to 14 as Israel presses Gaza incursion
26 minutes ago
BEIT HANUN, Gaza Strip (AFP) - A Palestinian woman was killed by Israeli tank fire as she and a handful of other women demonstrated outside a mosque in Beit Hanun, witnesses said, bringing the death toll from Israel's incursion into Gaza to 14.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictgaza_061102180349

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:41 PM

Capitalism..!

Ya gotta love Capitalism..!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 1:42 PM

Violence rips Baghdad social fabric
1 hour, 46 minutes ago
BAGHDAD (AFP) - Bombers and death squads assaulted what remains of Iraq's tattered social fabric, targeting academics, athletes, police, markets and professionals in a series of deadly attacks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/wl_afp/iraq_061102165123

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 1:50 PM

I told everyone that selling ads was going to be the key to Air America success...

I told them \"You got to go sell ads\"..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 1:54 PM

COMEDY TIME staring the disputable....War Dog!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:01 PM

Now Rush can sell ads..

Everyone wants to have thier ad on Rushs show..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:07 PM

That is because Rush is so popular..

Seems like people want to hear what he has to say..!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:11 PM

LA Times, network news hyped Kerry comments, downplayed story about kidnapped U.S. soldierSummary: On October 31, the network news led with coverage of the controversy surrounding Sen. John Kerry's "botched joke," downplaying a story on the U.S. military's accession to an order by Iraqi's prime minister to dismantle checkpoints around Sadr City that were part of an effort to locate a missing U.S. soldier. The Los Angeles Times ran the Kerry story on the front page of its print edition, relegating the story on Sadr City to Page 10.The October 31 broadcasts of ABC's World News with Charles Gibson, NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams, and the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric featured as their lead stories the controversy surrounding the "botched joke" by Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), who, at a campaign rally in California on October 30, said: "You know, education -- if you make the most of it, you study hard, and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." Similarly, the November 1 edition of the Los Angeles Times ran the Kerry story on its front page. The network news and the Times, however, devoted significantly less attention to a story that actually affects troops on the ground in Iraq: The U.S. military reportedly acceded to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Kamal al-Maliki's October 31 demand that U.S. checkpoints established around Sadr City, a Baghdad neighborhood, be removed by 5 p.m. that day, Baghdad time -- checkpoints that were part of an effort to locate a U.S. soldier who is thought to have been kidnapped by the Madhi Army, a militia under the control of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and which reportedly bases itself in Sadr City. The Times relegated this story to Page 10.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200611020004

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:13 PM

Now I hear Air America is on a Blacklist..

A list that advertisers have that says they do not want their ads run on Air America..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:14 PM

Being on the Advertisers Blacklist as unusable is about as bad as it can get..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:15 PM

"I just want all you "down and outers" to know that we rich Republicans feel your pain." Anonymous Coward

Show me a compassionate conservative, and i'll show you a friendly fascist.

Posted by: dada at November 2, 2006 2:17 PM

Bush flight suit codpiece firmware...

New weapon in battle of the bulge...
Thu Nov 2, 2006 8:13 AM ET

SYDNEY, Nov 2 (Reuters Life!) - Size really does count, just ask Australian underwear maker AussieBum which has just launched the "Wonderjock" for men who want to look bigger.

Since the launch seven days ago, AussieBum says it has sold 50,000 pairs of "Wonderjock," mostly on its Web site www.aussiebum.com and a handful of stores around the world.

"The design of the underwear, separates and lifts. The fabric cup protrudes everything out in front instead of down toward the ground," said "Wonderjock" designer Sean Ashby.

"There is no padding, rings or strings," said Ashby, a co-founder of the Internet-based AussieBum firm.

Ashby said the idea for the "Wonderjock" was the result of online feedback from customers who expressed an interest in looking bigger, just like women using the "Wonderbra."

"When you go to a department store to buy underwear you usually get a grandmother serving, which is not the ideal way to get feedback," said Ashby. "Our customers give us feedback. We didn't realize that big is better."

Posted by: DemonDuck at November 2, 2006 2:20 PM

Why Conservatives Are So Angry
By John Konop, host of Control Congress Radio and former Republican candidate for U.S. Congress
Debt Matters

We elect congressmen and congresswomen to represent our interests. We vote for self-described fiscal hawks who favor less government. But all we get is:


A Congress that represents the lobbyist-money-changers in Washington

A near $9 trillion debt

An explosion in government spending that puts Liberal tax-and-spenders like Lyndon Johnson to shame

Integrity Matters

The moral lapses of the Clinton administration were, of course, distressing. We voted for self-described conservative representatives who claimed they would do better. But all we got was a never-ending chain of scandals ranging from sex crimes to bribe-taking to gambling promotion.

Each is driven by a combination of greed, power-lust, and arrogance. Of course, mistakes do happen. But even when individuals are caught red-handed, they refuse to take responsibility. All that results is finger pointing and excuses from congressmen hiding in rehabilitation centers. Misbehaving congressmen should be removed-period. Are we supposed to look up the definition of is again?

Immigration Matters

We are a country of laws. If you don't like a law, change it. But a government that intentionally refuses to enforce select laws is weakening the whole "rule of law" and breaking its most sacred pledge to the governed.

Some employers are using illegal immigration to drive down wages and eliminate hard-working Americans from their payrolls. And of illegal immigrants gangs run roughshod over our communities, bringing with them:


Violence (and the threat of violence)

Crystal meth and other illegal drugs

Prostitution

And perhaps terrorists

Yet Congress and the White House repeatedly turn a blind eye in exchange for big business campaign donations and lobbying loot. The best they've done is pass a lame fence bill that covers no more than 10% of the problem (and they aren't even obligated to follow through on that much). Yet many existing laws remain un-enforced.

What Should We Conservatives

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:21 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 2:21 PM

It would seem that Air America is projecting the wrong image..!!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:23 PM

Control Congress is a multi-partisan, issue-oriented political forum that brings together the Left, Right, and everyone in between.

Visit ControlCongress.com to find out what the fuss is all about!

Listen to Control Congress Radio every Saturday from 2-3 pm EST on Atlanta's 920 AM WGKA or online.

This article also appears in Townlaker Magazine.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:24 PM

War Dog picking on Air America because everything else is in a mess and the Dems should win this election without shinanigans at the polls.

All he has left is Hillary, McCain and Air America.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:26 PM

Ann Coulter makes my penis sad.

Posted by: Mel at November 2, 2006 2:26 PM

"Courage is not the abnormal," wrote poet Jack Gilbert. "Not the marvelous act. Not Macbeth with fine speeches. It is the thing steady and clear. The marriage, not the month's rapture. The beauty that is of many days. The normal excellence, of long accomplishment. Not the Prodigal Son, but Penelope."

Posted by: Mel at November 2, 2006 2:29 PM

http://www.qzx.com/about/stuff/puking_pumpkin.jpg "> "Outcomes"


War Dog


Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 2:21 PM


----------


Spot-on, Jim.

Posted by: MJP at November 2, 2006 2:31 PM

All he has left is Hillary, McCain and Air America.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:26 PM

----

What else is there..???

The War Dog Plan is in High Gear..

Tax cuts are locked in to 2009..

Our beloved George Bush is in office until 2009..

I am projecting gridlock for Congress..

It is a Happie Doggie Day..

I just like to point out to folks when I have been right all along..

The ad problem at AAR is one of those times...

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:32 PM

a lot of my friends are completely, totally, selfish, thoughtless, and ultimately irrelevant sons of bitches.

eya dogger!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 2:37 PM

War Dog is beyond pathetic.

He's become a caricature of whatever the hell he pretends to stand for.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 2:38 PM

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:32 PM

------

Your soul is ugly and your eyes are vacant.

...I'd push you off of a bridge. :)

Posted by: MJP at November 2, 2006 2:38 PM

Now I knew AAR was not selling enough ads..

But I had no idea they had been Blacklisted..

Now they want to talk about selling network...

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:40 PM


COMMON SENSE VOTING ADVICE FOR TUESDAY, Nov 7th 2006

*You may ask for an optical scan machine if you prefer.

*If you use the touch screen voting machine, don't be ashamed to ask for help! ( Everyone should! )

TOUCH SCREEN MACHINE

* You can enlarge the print if you like before voting ( do it! )

* Make sure the grey door over the paper tape ( right side of the machine) is OPEN when you press PRINT BALLOT so that you can VERIFY YOUR VOTE. VERIFY EACH PAGE. If there is an error, you can back up and correct the mistake. You haven't really voted until you press CAST BALLOT/ VOTE.

The paper tape under the window is the voter- verified paper audit trail. That stays in the machine.

*If your vote "bounces" to a unintended candidate, the election judges should be told immediately and the machine should be taken out of service to be recalibrated ( the screen has become out of alignment with the electronics inside.)

The serial number of the machine is on the lower left hand side of the touch screen. If you wish to record any problems that you encounter you should have this number.

* If the tape is illegible, running out of ink or any other problem , the election judges should be told immediately and the machine should be taken out of service until the tape can be restored.

The serial number for the printer unit is located on a sticker on the left inner side of the printer . If you wish to record any problems you should have this number.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:40 PM

so it turns out that "Ad Problem"

is more "RoveSpeak".

when contacted the advertisers are going

"Huh? No! We support Air America and have for the last three years"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 2:42 PM

OPTICAL SCAN

* If the optical scanner should jam, the judges are trained handle to the votes in a bi-partisan manner, and will program them in to the scanner when it is fixed. Voters are asked in this case to deposit the ballot into the auxiliary compartment of the ballot box until the problem is resolved.

If you are alarmed by anything that happens at the polling place, or witness discrimination or voter suppression, please speak to an election judge immediately. There are judges there on election day representing both democratic and republican parties who will take your complaint to the proper authorities, and of course pollwatchers will be out in force.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:42 PM

That could be a tough sale...

They need to find a buyer looking for..

A Bankrupt network..

With horrible ratings..

Miserable ads sales..

That is on a Blacklist..

Even a great salesman like myself could close that deal..!!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:43 PM

shut the fuck up wardog. you've outstayed your welcome, you petty little man.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 2:46 PM

http://www.nhregister.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=17410370&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517515&rfi=8

Lamont files an FEC complaint over Lieberman’s expenditure of petty cash

Mary E. O’Leary, Register Topics Editor

11/02/2006

A review of the use of consultant services by Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman’s campaign, which in turn dispensed large amounts of petty cash, raises questions about the practice.

Lieberman’s Democratic opponent, Ned Lamont, has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission over the $387,000 in petty cash the senator spent in the waning days before the August Democratic primary.

Political committees may make expenditures of not more than $100 to any person or for a transaction out of the petty cash fund and are required to keep a written journal documenting the payments.

The campaign has said it is under no legal obligation to release the journal and has no plans to do so. Lieberman also said their attorney has assured him that they have done nothing illegal.

"To me, this is just a political trick," Lieberman said of the complaint filed by the Lamont campaign.

But interviews with some of the people who were brought in to help get out the vote for the campaign in the two weeks before the hotly contested Aug. 8 primary described situations that appear to be at odds with some campaign finance requirements.

At least one man who was hired as a consultant, Tomas Reyes of Oxford, said he has yet to be asked by the campaign to turn over material for the journal, which would justify expenditures of $8,250.

The FEC requires the treasurer of the political committee to keep a written journal of all disbursements out of petty cash, including names, addresses, dates and purposes.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:46 PM

Lamont files an FEC complaint over Lieberman’s expenditure of petty cash

You lay down with (or kiss) dogs, you get fleas!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:47 PM

...I'd push you off of a bridge. :)

Posted by: MJP at November 2, 2006 2:38 PM

You can't, he already lives under one.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 2, 2006 2:49 PM

Let the old dog bark, he doesn't have much to bark about lately!

He's trying to get on your last nerve using Air America. Just remember
"Sticks and Stones"!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:50 PM

\"Huh? No! We support Air America and have for the last three years\"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 2:42 PM

--

Well I sure hope you are right..

Most of news has not been good..

That is the thing about Capitalism..

It will reduce things to the truth..

It does that by outcomes..!!


Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 2:50 PM

MT-Sen: Tester leading big in early voting (according to his campaign)
by kos
Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 11:34:46 AM PST
Early voting results and exit polling both conspired to give us big hope in 2004. We'd be well advised to take everything with a grain of salt and realize that nothing is over until it's over.

But we also can't stick our head in the sand and ignore things because we don't want to get our hopes up, right? And right now, Tester's camp is feeling really good about the early numbers.

As President Bush lands in Montana to plead for support for Sen. Conrad Burns, a new poll released Thursday shows challenger Jon Tester with a commanding 21% lead among early voters.

The poll, conducted by Lake Snell Perry Mermin this week, shows Tester leading Burns 58% to 37% among Montanans who have already voted. According to the Montana Secretary of State's office, 56,453 Montanans have cast early ballots as of this morning.

I went hunting for the 2002 results, when Max Baucus easily defeated his Republican opponent. About 325,000 votes were cast in that non-presidential year.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/2/143446/084

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:52 PM

WD, you ar witnessing "outcomes" right now! The American people are not happy with your beloved Bush-co!! So they are doing something about it!

Outcomes!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:54 PM

The Language of a Democratic Realignment: What Kind of People Are Democrats?
By Swopa @ 11:00 am

The New York Times this morning offers an interesting bit of poll analysis:

Among registered voters, 33 percent said they planned to support for Republicans, and 52 percent said they would vote for Democrats. . . .

Coming at the conclusion of a contentious midterm campaign, voters said that neither Democrats nor Republican had offered a plan for governing should they win on Tuesday, the poll found. Yet Americans have some clear notions of how government might change if Democrats win control of Congress: Beyond a quicker exit from Iraq, respondents said they thought a Democratic Congress would be more likely to increase the minimum wage, hold down rapidly rising health and prescription drugs costs, improve the economy and — as Republicans have said frequently in these closing days of the campaign — raise taxes.

. . . Nearly 75 percent of respondents — including 67 percent of Republicans and 92 percent of Democrats — said they expected American troops would be taken out of Iraq more swiftly under a Democratic Congress.

Well, so much for that "no one knows what Democrats stand for" meme, huh? And to think that the voters polled by the NYT figured this out all by themselves, without any great help from the corporate media.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/02/the-language-of-a-democratic-realignment-what-kind-of-people-are-democrats/#more-5293

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:57 PM

If we vote for a democratic congress then we will get attacked again.
If we pull our troops out of Iraq then we will be attacked again.
If we elect Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama to the presidency then we will be attacked again.
If we maintain the status quo and just have trust in our president when he says stay the course and support our troops and keep our mouths shut and let them trample on anyone's human rights at their discretion then...

we will be attacked again.

Posted by: Mel at November 2, 2006 2:58 PM

WD, you ar witnessing \"outcomes\" right now! The American people are not happy with your beloved Bush-co!! So they are doing something about it!

Outcomes!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 2:54 PM

--

Gosh I dont know..

Lots of Good Conservative Democrats are running this years..

You know it is not about party politics..

It is about how you vote on taxes, war, and such..

Now I am just not seeing a turn toward the libs..

Even Kerry got kicked in the ass for his line about the troops..

Nancy says she dont want no part of Impeachment..

So I see new names on the old games..

New boss same as the old boss..

But that is ok..

It is what has made America great..!!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:04 PM

Does AAR even carry Sam's show? I can't find it. I'm in the PTzone. My local station only webcasts the show later.

Posted by: Darrell at November 2, 2006 3:05 PM

Potomac for Baltimore Sun. 10/28-30. Likely voters. MoE 3.5% (9/15-18 results)

Cardin (D) 49 (51)
Steele (R) 43 (40)

This one is definitely lean-Cardin. In the last week we've had Rasmussen giving Carding a 50-45 lead and the Washington Post with a bigger Cardin lead at 54-43.


MISSOURI (Senate)

Rasmussen. 10/30. Likely voters. MoE 4.5% (10/25 results)

Talent (R) 47 (48)
McCaskill (D) 48 (46)

Zogby for Reuters. 10/24-30. Likely voters. MoE 4% (9/27-10/2 results)

Talent (R) 43 (43)
McCaskill (D) 46 (48)

The tightest race in the country, both candidates have traded slight leads. The last week two Rasmussen polls were released. The first, on 10/25, have Talent a 50-48 lead. The next, on 10/30, gave McCaskill a 48-47 lead. CNN had it tied 49-49, as did R2K, 47-47. And the LA Times gave talent a narrow 48-45 lead. Looking at the SUSA and Rasmussen polls, we might be seeing a "Michael J Fox bump". But this thing will be decided on the ground.


MONTANA (Senate)

Zogby for Reuters. 10/24-30. Likely voters. MoE 4% (9/25-10/2 results)

Burns (R) 46 (42)
Tester (D) 47 (46)

The NRSC has dumped a shitload of money trying to paint Tester as a tax raiser. This race had been written off earlier by the GOP, but Burns is making a late run. All recent polling has Tester with a narrow lead -- Rasmussen pegged it at 51-48 and M-D at 46-43.


NEW JERSEY (Senate)

Zogby for Reuters. 10/24-30. Likely voters. MoE 4% (9/25-10/2 results)

Menendez (D) 49 (46)
Kean (R) 37 (35)

Rutgers (PDF). 10/29-31. Likely voters. MoE 3.4% (9/24-26 results)

Menendez (D) 46 (45)
Kean (R) 42 (44)

Within the last week, CNN had the race at 51-37 Menendez, Rasmussen had 49-44, Q-poll had it at 49-44, and Research 2000 at 48-42.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/2/132643/413

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:06 PM

Oh man... I finally come back to the blog after a long break and "You Know Who" is back as well.

Coincidence?

Entirely. ;-p

Afternoon everyone.

Posted by: GBC at November 2, 2006 3:07 PM

Iraqi Shiites Continue to Exert Independence and Seek Changes to U.N. Deal on U.S. Troops
By SABRINA TAVERNISE
Iraqi Shiites are pressing a fresh set of conditions on the U.S., asking for changes in the Iraqi government's relationship with the American military.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/world/middleeast/02iraq.html?th&emc=th

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:10 PM

U.S. Agency to Review Oil Royalties
By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
The investigation reflects a growing anger in Congress about the Interior Department's loss of billions in oil and gas royalties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/business/02royalties.html?th&emc=th

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:11 PM

Welcome back Charlie!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:12 PM

Army Times: Boehner refuses
to apologize for faulting generals
In the wake of Sen. John Kerry’s belated apology for offending troops deployed in Iraq, House Majority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Cincinnati) is being asked by Democrats to apologize for seemingly blaming senior military officers for any problems with the Bush administration’s Iraq strategy.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2328683.php

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:14 PM

Folks like Kerry make a little misstep and have thier ass handed to them..

I think you can see the problem AAR faces with the Crazy Talk..!!

Now since AAR has thinned out the herd ..

The Crazy Talk has been reduced as well..

But I am afraid the damage has been done..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:15 PM

Boehner slams military,
not Rumsfeld for Iraq mess
House Majority Leader John Boehner's (R-Cincinnati) call for critics to lay off Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld because the generals are responsible for the conduct of the war in Iraq has sparked outrage among Democrats.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/01/shifting.blame/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:15 PM

Meatball therapy!!!

Posted by: Ziggy Froid at November 2, 2006 3:17 PM

Really, who cares what he says anymore, but just so you get the neo "Compassionate Conservative" view:

Tom DeLay’s definition of torture: “I don’t think water boarding is torture. My definition of torture is you physically harm someone by cutting them, by cutting their fingers, sticking things in their eyes, sticking their fingers in electric sockets. Water boarding is a frightening experience. But the person does not have physical damage.”

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/ny-lidela024956524nov02,0,2109948.story?coll=ny-lipolitics-headlines

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:19 PM

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:19 PM

Tom Delay could be made to beg for death without
ever leaving a mark on him.

Trust me on this because it is true.

Posted by: former Seal at November 2, 2006 3:22 PM

Greens are moving into Chicago area and Illinois and are really making a mark! Good on them!!!

One state at a time and a new party can emerge!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:26 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 3:26 PM

Voting for the Greens at the state level is not wasting your vote this year....

http://www.chicagor eader.com/ features/ stories/ourtown/ 061027/richwhitn ey/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:28 PM

That is thing about Rush..

He has a large liberal audience..

Other than myself and few others..

Sam has not gained a large conservative following..

Janeane caused that problem..

With all her silly psychological nonsense..

Most conservatives who heard Janeane could not put her emotions in the context of her troubled life..

They dont want to listen to work her problems out on the radio..!!

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:30 PM

Wait that link is bad to the Greens story

http://www.chicagoreader.com/ features/stories/ourtown/061027/richwhitney/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:30 PM

Okay once more:

http://www.chicagor eader.com/features/ stories/ourtown/061027/richwhitn ey/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:31 PM

You haven't been listening to hos show WD. He gets many calls from conservatives and actually speaks to them instead of dumping the calls.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:33 PM

I am really having problems trying to fix that link. sorry. Stiff fingers day.

Once more:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/ stories/ourtown/061027/richwhitn ey/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:34 PM

hey ebbbbbbbrebody!

freaking snowing again, like crazy.

yoinks.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at November 2, 2006 3:34 PM

I am really having problems trying to fix that link. sorry. Stiff fingers day.

Once more:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/ stories/ourtown/061027/richwhitney/

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:34 PM

"What's irony?

Posted by: Oasis at October 31, 2005 05:32 PM

Like calumny and snarkium, it's an important mineral supplement for some subsisting on blog chow.

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 31, 2005 05:41 PM"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 3:35 PM

That's it I give up on that link!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:36 PM

And you know your numbers a not great enough to make AAR a success..

You just have to find listeners in middle America if you expect to succeed in talk radio..

It is kind of like Hillary and her politics..

Once she need numbers...

She moved to the center...

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:36 PM

eya Ja

whats up doc?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 3:38 PM

And I dont know that Hillary even want AAR around while she runs for President..

Now she can count on Al and Springer for support..

But I am sure she feels they will support her even if she pushes AAR under..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:41 PM

sheebus.

What did you think of Colin Powells new book Wado?

get a chance to get through it?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at November 2, 2006 3:42 PM

Another Slide in the Dollar...

Good day...The dollar is confirming our sentiment, dropping again versus most of the major currencies. Yesterday’s confidence numbers came in well below expectations, even with the dramatic drop in gasoline prices during October. Maybe the U.S. consumer isn’t as clueless as I thought.

The downward trend that we saw the dollar take during April of this year, looks like it may be back. As you will remember, the U.S. dollar lost over 6% of its value versus most of the major currencies during the month of April. Since then the U.S. dollar has been range trading; but the data we have seen over the past few weeks gives me the feeling that another dramatic drop is beginning.

The data released today should confirm the weakness of the U.S. economy. Mortgage applications have already been released, and to no one’s surprise, they came in down 3%, well below last month’s small increase. Later this morning we will see the ISM Manufacturing index and prices paid, pending home sales, and vehicles sales data. I don’t believe any of this data will surprise on the upside, and will likely confirm that manufacturing in the United States is slowing along with housing.

On the flip side, we saw such an aggressive move down by the dollar yesterday - after the poor confidence data - that any sliver of hope in today’s numbers could be used to reverse some of yesterday’s slide. Again, I look for the numbers to show the U.S. economy continuing to slow, and the dollar should continue to sell off.

http://dailyreckoning.com/Writers/Butler/Articles/110106.html

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:42 PM

'you magnificent bastards '

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 3:43 PM

Hey Jim!!!

Hows it going out there?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at November 2, 2006 3:44 PM

Trust me on this because it is true.

Posted by: former Seal at November 2, 2006 3:22 PM

*shudder*

I'm reminded of Jack Bauer threatening to pull a guy's stomach out through his throat with a wet dish towel.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆♪♡©典£♣®€ø at November 2, 2006 3:46 PM

More from the Daily Reckoning:

The dollar also lost ground yesterday on news of additional central bank diversification of their currency reserves. The United Arab Emirates is the world’s second largest Arab economy, and the governor of its central bank, Sultan Nasser al-Suwaidi, said on October 30 that it will cut the dollars it holds by almost half to reduce its dependence on the weakening U.S. currency.

Figures it released last week showed that the Swiss central bank raised its holdings of yen and pared investments in dollars last quarter.

And finally, Russia is considering lifting holdings of yen in coming months according to the central bank’s first deputy chairman. All of these ‘reallocations’ will only continue the downward spiral of the dollar, and could feed on each other creating an all out freefall as holders of the greenbacks rush toward the exits!

The euro will likely benefit today from speculations that European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet will signal that policy makers are ready to increase rates in December. The central bank chief has used the word ‘vigilance’ in the past to signal imminent increases after the bank’s previous policy meetings. He dropped that word after the October fifth meeting, suggesting the bank will pause this month. If the accompanying report contains the word ‘vigilance,’ the traders will likely run the euro up versus the U.S. dollar on thoughts the ECB will raise rates again in December.

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:46 PM

eya Ja!

raining like crazy

trying to dry out my dogger 'sponges'

goofing off in the basement and making stuff.

whas the call in number at the show tonite and what is the topic?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 3:48 PM

sheebus.

What did you think of Colin Powells new book Wado?

get a chance to get through it?

Posted by: ecrasez l\'infame at November 2, 2006 3:42 PM

--

Oh, he is gone now..

Lots of others too..

Seem like everyone has book to repair thier history once they are gone..

But nothing wrong with making money..

If you can make the books move..

Posted by: War Dog at November 2, 2006 3:50 PM

Welcome back Charlie!!

Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 3:12 PM

Thnx, toniDeeee! Good to be back.

Posted by: GBC at November 2, 2006 3:50 PM


Why does this not surprise me. Not even the slightest bit. But then Too much Imus in the Morning can do that. You hear, Mr. Kerry?

--

Maureen Dowd:

"I thought Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert might be a little nervous to meet with me."


ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: bridge at November 2, 2006 4:06 PM

so i take it you didn't read it?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at November 2, 2006 4:07 PM


Guys,

don't you EVER get tired involving the resident trolls?

I guess not.

So I am out for now.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: bridge at November 2, 2006 4:12 PM

sorry bridge, enjoy your nap.

talkin about lots a stuff tonight, jim,
did you get the mp3 i sent?

trying to talk about everything thats gone under the radar due to this "beating to death" of Kerry.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at November 2, 2006 4:14 PM

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Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 4:15 PM

Damn you meatball?

Why do you torture me?

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 2, 2006 4:21 PM

Dear Bridge, a question.

If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow

that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged,


models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 4:25 PM

ya Ja! got the MP3!

got a chuckle out of Bgurl! )

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 4:27 PM

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Posted by: toniD at November 2, 2006 4:27 PM

models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 2, 2006 4:25 PM

Midgets deplaned!

Posted by: now that's just silly! at November 2, 2006 4:35 PM