TARIQ ALI

was on Book TV this morning v. early

and I missed it :(

http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=7580&schedID=461

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it doesn't look like this will be repeated this weekend

and its not available online AFAIK -

or is it? please let me know - Tariq Ali is my fav

NOVA M Radio just turned into one long infomercial. Very offputting.

Girlboys may not be far away;

if i turn my heart, send me little words

uttering, above all

above all.

such happiness from one bird,

singing over things in his heart...

send me a little words,

afar in time...

always be glad

that i may not be far away.

whose mystery lover should touch

another life?

you shall have these hands...

accept and take the time...

nothing more that if your sweet hair lay

on this heart,

that i may go unto him,

before the foetal grave.

flesh put spare,

that you and heart,

that you, of my heart,

will become such happiness for me.

teach then the spirit at bay...

and stay for yourself.

become young, think...

may god forbid,

yourself you become.

whose mystery may go unto negation's,

dead undoom?

Democratic chairman Howard Dean on Friday took a swipe at Washington critics who questioned his strategy of spending money in all 50 states, dismissing them as the "old Democratic Party."

"This is the new Democratic Party. The old Democratic Party is back there in Washington, sometimes they still complain a little bit."

"The people who complain always get the headlines," Dean said, adding there are other high-profile Democrats who support his initiative. "But the fact is that this strategy not only works, it works in states Democrats have given up on for 30 years. "We cannot give up on anybody."…read on

Anyone give up on Carville yet?

BLAIR admits BIG MISTAKE in Iraq

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"Tony Blair conceded last night that western intervention in Iraq had been a disaster. In an interview with Al-Jazeera, the Arabic TV station, the prime minister agreed with the veteran broadcaster Sir David Frost when he suggested that intervention had "so far been pretty much of a disaster"."

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1951267,00.html

I saw Harry Reid say that he expects Gates to get confirmed with no problems.

That is a problem.

I have to do dishes. :(

BBIALWITIEGAPAIDGL

Blair is badly nipped by a vintage touch of Frost

"Sir David has always been good at showing politicians to history's door. He did with Richard Nixon, and last night he did it with Mr Blair."

read on
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/18/nirq218.xml

Hey bridge, Last night I had a headache. I took one aspirin and went to sleep. I woke up in the middle of the night, and my pupils would not undialate. Everything was very bright. It was strange.

Could something be wrong inside my melon you think?

it could - but only your doctor can tell for sure -

looks like you are ok again since you are online typing

take care!

I saw Harry Reid say that he expects Gates to get confirmed with no problems.

That is a problem.

Posted by: Bob at November 18, 2006 1:31 PM

Realistically, who else will the Bush Family nominate that we won't approve? Gates is no Rumsfeld, and he'll listen to the generals, but I suspect there'll be coverups of the pentagon spending.

That is quiet a compromise in my opinion EB, just not to be partisan.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at November 18, 2006 1:53 PM
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if Kissinger would be nominated

for any position - ANY position

I wouldn't be a bit surprised anymore

old people, old politics, old ideas, old everything ... old old old old ..... old

a nice new thread!

and a pretty nice day here.

a relatively busy morning here so far.

wonder what "W" and the 109th are up to today?

"JUDICIAL SHOWDOWN: Cheney Says Full Speed Ahead Appointing Conservative Judges…"

"Throughout our time in office, the president has selected judges who understand their role in the constitutional system," Cheney told the Federalist Society.

which of course is ridiculous BS. wonder how many peeps still believe anything cheney says?

Impeach Cheney First! send a psychopath to jail today!

the story continues...

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) requests release of Bush Administration interrogation policy documents from AG Alberto "Torture" Gonzales.

11-18 POAC

http://tinyurl.com/yx2ofu

Time for the Dems to be Obstructionists.

old people, old politics, old ideas, old everything ... old old old old ..... old

Posted by: bridge at November 18, 2006 2:00 PM

Yes, this is the WWII generation still kicking. They're vampires and won't die in our lifetime it seems.

Time for the Dems to be Obstructionists.

Posted by: Bob at November 18, 2006 2:04 PMW

We'll see what comes out in the hearings. I think all of the old guard Republican fascists should have their wings clipped so that can't fly and keep bombing the world. As long as they are free, they will continue to rape, pillage, and plunder. Removal from office doesn't stop them.

Speaking of old, get a load of this guy.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/17/republicans-just-love-the-filibuster-now/

Instead of being labeled "obstructionists", the Dems should say they are "protectionists" of the Constitution.

ya know,

usally this

amount of outright

criminal subversion of "justice"

is intiminating, but every single thing we do opposing this curruption

lays one more brick in the notional wall that the USA is something unusual and precious

and that its protections and freedoms actually are something we all find worth defending tenaciously.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at November 18, 2006 2:06 PM
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you know when Clinton was elected I thought we were finally done with the pre-war 2 and pre-sixties people ..... then. they. came. back.

oh my - new idea for screenplay:
then. they. came. back.
except too depressing to write -

Posted by: e.e. goings at November 18, 2006 1:29 PM

I likee!

poor choice of language

a common pitfall. gotta get it right eh?

i would'nt give them the label "WWII generation" at all.

"Corporate Drones" is closer to the reality and focuses on the problem.

And the blog is nobody free.

To hear him speak, the place should of collapsed

hours ago.

"pre-war 2 and pre-sixties people ....."

just pisses off the rest of us belonging to that group by association.

if you're shooting i reccomend more accurate targeting. we need "pre-war 2 and pre-sixties people" on our side.

"Corporate Drones" is closer to the reality and focuses on the problem.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 2:20 PM

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That is the one, Jim.

Bingo!

A day to ya!

so out of the blue

the best you can do

is to slam "Nobody"

about what YOU say HE

thinks about bloggie continuity?

Snort! what a malicious waste of time and thought.

C'mon, get original and come up with something a little "out of the box" willya?

if you're shooting i reccomend more accurate targeting. we need "pre-war 2 and pre-sixties people" on our side.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 2:24 PM

"corporate drones" is accurate. I find the WWII mentality of fighting is still working with the "greatest generation" though. Just read War Dog's posts and he reads like General LeMay.

oh my - new idea for screenplay:
then. they. came. back.
except too depressing to write -

Posted by: bridge at November 18, 2006 2:18 PM

just like Freddie Krueger in "Nightmare on Elm Street".

eya MJP,

Morfternoon to all.

we are'nt taught to think tactically

or strategically but we need to learn how to do it by default.

logistics is of particular worth as a study and has been an interest of mine for years.

lol you are right, EB

scary scary

hee!

dogger is a "Ham and egger"

very conventional (and weak) approach to psy ops.

the temptation for us is to stop thinking creatively and fight conventionally.

that's one of his real goals and he's somewhat successful because he has the advantages

of all the Propaganda and mind control efforts that preceeded him. whether consiously or not.

"WWMSAD" What would Mae say and do? theres a lady that could be unconventional in powerful ways, a giant shoulder to stand on.

"WWMSAD" What would Mae say and do? theres a lady that could be unconventional in powerful ways, a giant shoulder to stand on.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 2:56 PM

Mae would have uncovered 90% of what's going on today, and would be contacting Pelosi and Reid. I talked to one of the "Brussel sprouts" (what she called us listeners) and he said that she predicted the corporate military complex would eventually start attacking themselves and this would be the time for us to act. They're so hungry for power and control that they begin eating themselves.

dogger is a "Ham and egger"

very conventional (and weak) approach to psy ops.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 2:56 PM

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That guy is nothing if not the ass.

I swear he posts only to prove that point.

the kind of thinking that got us into this mess is not the kind of thinking that will get us out of it...

the kind of thinking that got us into this mess is not the kind of thinking that will get us out of it...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:06 PM

passivitity!

To die... to sleep...

perchance bourn awry,

and by oppressor's wrong.

Puzzles the patient, and arrows to die...

to sleep...

spurns puzzles with the will.

No traveller in the dreams that may come.

Whips and sweat...

merit of love.

'Tis a consummation, devoutly to sleep,

to return the rub of fortune,

or not of.

Thus the proud makes calamity of action.

We know not to bear the pale cast of respect.

That is, to say we choose end...

to die...

to be..

to sleep.

No traveller in the dreams that may come,

devoutly ...

to sleep,

for fortune,

or not of?

Thus the proud makes calamity of action.

That we know not to bear the pale cast of

respect...

that, is heir to

the end!

Hello...................................
That was me......................................................................................................

well, its more a philosophy thing, Sunny Jim
and you are much too young anyway :)

I think that one can safely say all Fox people types are pre-sixties, all the thirtysomething pundits who are fighting the John Lennons in the media cause its the rightwing thing to do - even the rightwing blondies whose position is safe are into that kind of thing altho women benefited most from the 60s culture revolution - YAY Elvis thanks a mil :)))

but age has def. something to do w. it - those born old enough to fight in WWII are of a Victorian philosophy practically

P.S. that reminds me: Alexander Haig
Any position - and I would not be surprised ;-)

Hello...................................
That was me......................................................................................................

Posted by: Bob at November 18, 2006 3:10 PM

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No doubt.

You need a nice girl, bro!

dogger disrupts,

changes our focus, wastes our time.

other trolls do the same. when we fall into our

vengeful contentious bickering with them they win and we lose.

that is we lose if we're actually committed to trying to change this shituation...

worth thinking about if you're into self examination the goes somewhere inovative and progressive.

eya SJ, Bob, et al

How ya been?

Elections made the political landscape pruty interesting. Wish I had more time to follow it...

Voted for my first Democrat this cycle. Though it didn't make a bit of difference in the outcome...

My races not close and pretty boring...

P.S. that reminds me: Alexander Haig
Any position - and I would not be surprised ;-)

Posted by: bridge at November 18, 2006 3:13 PM

For years I was convinced he was deepthroat - but that's what'll happend if you only read one book on the subject ;)

dogger disrupts,

changes our focus, wastes our time.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:16 PM

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Yeah....well.... I'd just punch his punk ass silly.

ENOUGH!

Posted by: MJP at November 18, 2006 3:13 PM

Probably....... What leads you to that conclusion MJP

Same Same -tk. I saw a pic of you and your dog at the px site. Hows Deiter?

eya Bridge!

sterotyping,

generalizations,

all major tactical errors.

"the map is not the territory" eh?

we need to think beyond the rigged rules of the game.

innovation and creativity are our strengths and their weaknesses would'nt you say?

Probably....... What leads you to that conclusion MJP

Posted by: Bob at November 18, 2006 3:22 PM

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What wouldn't ?

;)

Cool. Dietz doing well. He's about to wake up from a nap to watch the Michigan - Ohio State game with me...

Dog loves football!!!

eya -tk!

good to read ya! welcome back.

give deetser a hug for me and a good munchie!

Can you believe the Steelers this season.

Round here it is Steeler country big time.

Too bad they suck!

High School Football was the funnest time of my life. Us linemen used to wear these pads that went down over your arms and hands. You could raise up with a forearm under the facemask and send the other fellow sprawiling...... Those were the days.

I remember my best bud was a fat ass, and the coach hated him. We would be running plays and he would running laps. Well, not really running, it was funny as hell!

"Yeah....well.... I'd just punch his punk ass silly."

ummm, well that sort of ignores the fact that he's unavailable for a direct confrontation does'nt it?

or that confronting him here is a waste of time too?

think out of the box what i reccomend and move beyond basic violent programming if you can.

http://www.bodybuilders.com/shuma.htm

This dude was our fullback. A Beast!!

He had mutant calves!

what i reccomend and move beyond basic violent programming if you can.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:32 PM

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I was joking.

I'm of the peacful sort.

But I will shout when an asshole pisses in my punch.

Dig?

pro

football,

while fun,

is still "bread

and circuses", nothing

substantially more than a useful distraction.

try to tell people that, and defensiveness goes into high gear.

West Viginia was ranked 3rd at one point. You follow them?

SJ - I think I've read maybe you, dada, and N putting together an internet song...nice.

How's it coming?

Politicos takes a certain breed Jim.

I think peeps will get on board a righteous movement.

But the people who get those movements going and do the research to learn what avenues to pursue for change are a different breed.

Richard Dreyfuss made a good point last night in that civics needs to be a main part of curriculum again.

What they feed us in melodramatic BS with no real information. No substance.

An Informed Public is definately good for us and bad for them.

I dig college sports over pro any day of the week.

Not much into the College -tk. They got that WHite and Slayton though.

oh, i "dig" only to well!

i like moving beyond an innefectual shout though and figuring out how to focus what energy i do have.

dogger loves the shouts of pain and outrage he can pull out of you because they don't affect him and he frustrates you.

granted it's a stupid game in the first place, what i'm asking you is why continue to play by his rules when you can think up your own?

way more fun than screaming in frustration eh?

Trent Lott = Minority Whip heh!

That Jon Stewart...funny!

hey doods!

"SJ - I think I've read maybe you, dada, and N putting together an internet song...nice.

How's it coming?

-tk "

slow and steady as she goes, it's fun and rewarding in unanticipated ways.

RICHARD DREIFUSS

rocked on Real Time last night

best guest this season by far - a must see he is

if you missed Real Time on HBO try to catch a repeat

Richard Dreifuss - thank you thank you thank you

--- bye for now and happy weekend :)

granted it's a stupid game in the first place, what i'm asking you is why continue to play by his rules when you can think up your own?

way more fun than screaming in frustration eh?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:48 PM

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Wado plays no role in my life.

I just fuck with him on the blog!

He is OBVIOUSLY a schill....

Bless his heart.

You know it and I know it

...anybody with a tripple digit IQ knows it.

ya B3,

the hard part is agreeing on what exactly is worth putting into the curriculums.

"education" in north america is an entrenched beaurocracy with wasted inertia heading as fast as it can in the opposite direction to confronting and helping to solve problems.

(there are notable exceptions and those are good models for future changes)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:59 PM

I would some real history would be a good addition.

well choir practice is over for me,

hit some high notes, a few harmonies and lost the sheet music for the rest of the afternoon practice.

Cya later, love ya all, and don't sweat the small stuff!

The Inaugural Richardson Institute Peace Studies Lecture was given by the renowned award winning journalist Mr Robert Fisk, Middle East Correspondent of the Independent on Friday 13 October 2006. It was attended by well over 400 people. Afterwards Mr Fisk responded to the questions and queries of the audience and attended a book signing ceremony organised by Waterstones. View the lecture online at:

http://www.lancs.ac.uk/depts/richinst/ or at

http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/richinst/index.htm

Since starting my campaign of staying on the wagon, gotton back into music - very seriously. Takes most of my time less school work...

Anyway - a buddy of mine and I have started a couple of bands...

One - just the two of us, accoustic guitars playing originals at a coffee shop and a two diff bars that have open accoustic nights.

Two: A heavier rock band that will - hopefully, eventually - play some of the balance of the bars in town (maybe 2-3 more months)

Lotta fun...

Lotsa fun to enjoy hobbies ;)

gotta roll. Nice taking to you guys

-late

-tk

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1939891,00.html

Low IQs are Africa's curse, says lecturer

Researcher accused of promoting racist stereotype wins backing from LSE

Sunday November 5, 2006

The London School of Economics is embroiled in a row over academic freedom after one of its lecturers published a paper alleging that African states were poor and suffered chronic ill-health because their populations were less intelligent than people in richer countries.

Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist, is now accused of reviving the politics of eugenics by publishing the research which concludes that low IQ levels, rather than poverty and disease, are the reason why life expectancy is low and infant mortality high.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/11/africa_is_filled_with_people_t.php

Africa is filled with people too dumb to live, according to the LSE

Category: Stupidity
November 6, 2006

My university doesn't subscribe to the journal, but I'd really be interested in reading this paper by Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics. Even better would be if someone else would critique it so I wouldn't have to waste my time on it.

Mind the gap...in intelligence: Re-examining the relationship between inequality and health.

well what do you expect when the best and strongest in a civilization are stolen away and sold to slavery and the remaining tribes-people left are the ones deemed unworthy for work.... and this goes on for 15-25 generations...... it kind of fucks up the gene pool..... not to say it fucked up the whole thing.... but it had to affect it somehow..... in many ways Africa has recovered.... but in many ways it has not.....

but it had to affect it somehow..... in many ways Africa has recovered.... but in many ways it has not.....

Posted by: 13ben at November 18, 2006 4:30 PM

wrong

how can you say the stipidest people who were caught were the best?

black africans themselvescaught most of the africans sold into slavery. they were the smart guys. in a way, we did them a favor.

I pass, with no middle flow,

to reach the height.. the haven of God.

Fast abyss...

justify the secret to soar above

the enchanted light of Kubla Khan.

Eternal Providence...

sing of Heav'ns and Man's first hope

that vain ghosts return.

O ships of Eden, my venture's errand,

my clear-eyed duty,

with piloted fancies.

On they sailed... O mariners,

Alas!

Yet, see the swift Aonian mount of Sinai,

that didst inspire the cloud-pitched light.

To reach their courses, they rose out of God

to find their way

to mad's moonlit street.

Illumine in me what is low.

Illumine in me what is dark.

Illumine in me what has failed.

Old dreams and pure..

in the eye of the rhyme..

let the enchanted seed

instruct me.

Just a heads up, but the 19th High Times Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam opens tomorrow. :)

http://www.cannabiscup.com/ht/cancup/

Posted by: e.e. goings at November 18, 2006 4:56 P

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Lets all read.

Nice choice.

Posted by: e.e. goings at November 18, 2006 4:56 PM

I've heard of e e cummings but not e e goings.

Nice stuff!

To reach their courses, they rose out of God

to find their way

to mad's moonlit street.

Illumine in me what is low.

Illumine in me what is dark.

Illumine in me what has failed.

Old dreams and pure..

in the eye of the rhyme..

let the enchanted seed

instruct me.

Posted by: e.e. goings at November 18, 2006 4:56 PM

Reminds me of a peyote trip, back in the 60's.

Man, If I could meet a woman with the poetic soul

...the sun would kiss the moon!

:)

the kind of thinking that got us into this mess is not the kind of thinking that will get us out of it...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 3:06 PM

Unbelievably, crucially, emphatically, tragically true.

Unbelievably, crucially, emphatically, tragically true.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at November 18, 2006 5:16 PM

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No.

However unpleasant

It is time to fight.

Sorry, Cathy.

MJP is the deal

Starting to get a little nipply out.

Just got back from a walk. My new evening routine.

"Thou shalt not blow pot-smoke into the face of my pet. Say's whom who want's to get high."

-WSB

I think not.

Perhaps you've had a boot to your head?

Anyway, thanks for the ill concieved!

But it's not elves exactly.

I'd wish to know

beyond the silent secret of hiding,

that time sends the honey of romance.

It's a time thing, Mething!

It's a twice-written scroll.

And to reach the control?

It is for pipe and austere..

come songs for his father,

saying

"Good neight... having out!"

He said it for himself.

He moves in darkness

On the frozen-grough wind

He moves in darkness

to the sunlit heights.

We kept the rabbit out,

and those that may be armed.

The yelping in his head

says "Elves in or

eat time dead!

Eat time dead? lo!

I have given of trees

and of ears of a stone.

But it's not of trees will nevery pass abreast.

To please the boyish holiday..

He will only say, "Elves in or

walk the mischief."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15646.htm

Blood-Pouring Anti-Nuke Clowns Sent to Prison

Dressed in faded black striped prison uniforms and blue cloth slippers, they appeared before the federal court for sentencing. Fr. Carl Kabat, 73, a catholic priest from St. Louis with a life-long history of resistance to nuclear weapons was sentenced to 15 months in prison. Greg Boetje-Obed, 52, a former Navy officer living with his family in the Catholic Worker community in Duluth Minnesota was given a 12 month and one day prison sentence. Michael Walli, 58, also with the Loaves and Fishes Catholic Worker in Duluth received 8 months. All were ordered to pay $17,000 restitution.

During their trial, the men openly admitted try to disarm the nuclear weapon. They pointed out to the jury that each one of these missiles was a devastating weapon of mass destruction, a killing machine precisely designed to murder hundreds of thousands. Testimony by experts about the illegality of these weapons of mass destruction under international law and their effects were excluded by the court and never heard by the jury.

The 40 ton Minuteman III site they damaged lies deep in rural North Dakota, at a site called Echo-9 about 100 miles north of Bismarck. Coiled beneath the surface of a bland concrete bunker, it is clearly visible from the gravel road. In fact, the otherwise pastoral countryside of farms and silos is full of nuclear weapon silos. One nuclear weapon launching site lies just across the road from a big farmhouse, another just down the road from a camp for teens. There are 150 other such nuclear launching facilities in North Dakota alone.

At the sentencing, Father Carl Kabat, who has already spent 16 years in prison for peace protests, spoke simply and directly to the court and prosecutor. “I believe that you, brother judge and brother prosecutor, know that the Minuteman III at E-9 is insane, immoral and illegal, but your actions protected that insanity, that immorality and that illegality. Brother judge, you could have possibly been a Rosa Parks, but your actions said “no.” We all can o

Waging Peace

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15645.htm

11/17/06 "Boston Globe" -- -- In the United States, 12 children each day die from gun violence. Homicide was the second leading cause of death for people ages 10 to 24 in 2001, with rates 10 times that of other leading industrialized nations. In 2005, there were more than 190,000 reported victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assaults. Acts of terrorism worldwide are up since the start of the Iraq war. War itself has killed more than half a million Americans since World War II.

A bill before Congress would establish a US Department of Peace. This measure would provide practical, nonviolent solutions for the problems of domestic and international conflict. It would apply the institutional heft of the US government to a serious effort not merely at avoiding war or waging war more effectively. It would take America to the next evolutionary step: It would proactively wage peace.

The problem of violence is a many layered one, and its solution needs to be as well. . . . While no one action -- governmental or otherwise -- will provide a single solution to such an entrenched and deeply rooted problem, the problem must be treated as an all-systems breakdown that requires an all-systems response.

A Department of Peace would address the causal issues of violence -- from human disenfranchisement to societal dysfunction -- thus saving money and human heartache.

Domestically, the department would develop policies and allocate resources to reduce the levels of domestic and gang violence, child abuse, and various other forms of societal discord. The secretary of peace would work with the secretary of education to develop curriculums to teach students alternative conflict resolution techniques and strategies

Re: caller who "listens to show a lot"

Know what the difference is between you and Rush Limbo who the caller compared you to? Rush lies. Duh. You kind of made this point to the caller, but I wanted to make it as clear as possible for all.
Bob

UCLA Student Gets Tazered

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15637.htm

Kill Pigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking Pigs. God damn this video pisses me off.

If anyone thinks we are going to get through this nonviolently. I am pretty pessimistic about that.

Somebody shoulda walked casually by and shanked one of those pigs.

http://stuntedgrowth.vox.com/library/post/new-photo-of-sam-seders-child.html

They are trying to intimidate people out of their right to free speech.

I do not condone violence except in self defense.

Police Officers are just doing there jobs.

I did not mean what I said before.

http://stuntedgrowth.vox.com/library/post/new-photo-of-sam-seders-child.html

sort of an insignificant insult to sam's willingness to change diapers at 3 in the morning.

good save B3,

lotsa good cops out there, and a few assholes.

the hard part is not losing your temper and making mistakes.

that applies to both sides of course. the trick is dealing with assholes in an effective way.

helps to be honest about one selfs own ability to be an asshole and make mistakes.

forgiveness does enter the quotient here. gotta love yourself before you can love other.

but maybe selfcontrol is as essential, learning when to wait and when to move, to think before acting...

I did not mean what I said before.

Posted by: Bob at November 18, 2006 6:25 PM

walk down to the river and take a cool evening swim

The Zapatista "Social Netwar" in Mexico

A Rand Corporation study.

The case instructs that netwar depends on the emergence of “swarm networks,”7 and that swarming best occurs where dispersed NGOs are internetted and collaborate in ways that exhibit “collective diversity” and “coordinated anarchy.” The paradoxical tenor of these phrases is intentional. The swarm engages NGOs that have diverse, specialized interests; thus, any issue can be rapidly singled out and attacked by at least elements of the swarm. At the same time, many
NGOs can act, and can see themselves acting, as part of a collectivity in which they share convergent ideological and political ideals and
similar concepts about nonviolent strategy and tactics. While some NGOs may be more active and influential than others, the collectivity
has no central leadership or command structure; it is multiheaded, impossible to decapitate.

A swarm’s behavior may look uncontrolled,
even anarchic at times, but it is shaped by extensive consultation and coordination, made feasible by rapid communications among the parties to the swarm.

The Zapatista case hints at the kind of doctrine and strategy that can make social netwar effective for transnational NGOs. Three key
principles appear to be: (1) Make civil society the forefront—work to build a “global civil society,” and link it to local NGOs. (2) Make
“information” and “information operations” a key weapon—demand freedom of access and information,10 capture media attention, and use all manner of information and communications technologies.
Indeed, in a social netwar where a set of NGO activists challenge a government or another set of activists over a hot public issue, the battle tends to be largely about information—about who knows what, when, where, how, and why. (3) Make “swarming” a distinct objective, and capability, for trying to overwhelm a government or other target actor.

Always wonderful to hear Laura's voice.

Now this is a rack.

http://www.pi-technics.com/pi-rack.htm

In response to this situation and these uncertainties, in January 1995 the Secretary of Defense formed the IW Executive Board to facilitate "the development and achievement of national information warfare goals." In support of this effort, RAND was asked to provide and exercise an analytic framework for identifying key IW issues, exploring their consequences and highlighting starting points for related policy development--looking to help develop a sustainable national consensus on an overall US strategy for information warfare.

To accomplish this purpose, RAND conducted an exercise-based framing and analysis of what we came to call the "strategic information warfare" problem. Involving senior members of the national security community as well as representatives from national security-related telecommunications and information systems industries, the exercises led participants through a challenging hypothetical IW crisis involving a major regional political-military contingency. The exercise methodology, known by the label "The Day After . . . ," had been previously used for a variety of nuclear proliferation, counterproliferation, and related intelligence studies. The specific scenario chosen for the exercise involved a turn-of-the-century conflict between Iran and the United States and its allies, focused on a threat to Saudi Arabia.

...

What is "Information Warfare?"

Ten years ago the answer to that question from a communications specialist, a codebreaker, or any other member of the US military or intelligence communities might have been either "What?" or, with a little encouragement, "Oh, you mean command and control warfare on the battlefield and in the theater, jamming and that other electronic warfare stuff." Within most of the US defense community today, you would still get an answer not far different from the preceding definitions of command and control warfare (C2W) or electronic warfare (EW).

In many circles within the US defense and broader international security community, however, the term information warfare is increasingly being used to encompass a broader set of information-age "warfare" concepts. These emerging new warfare concepts are directly tied to the prospect that the ongoing rapid evolution of cyberspace--the global information infrastructure--could bring both new opportunities and new vulnerabilities. The study focuses on one of these vulnerabilities: the prospect that this revolution could put at risk high-value national assets outside the traditional battlefield and theater of "over there" power projection in a fashion that affects both US national military strategy and broader US national security strategy.

We recognize that for some time the term information warfare in common usage will have no more than a general meaning, one that is recognized to be inescapably dynamic. Information warfare, like the evolving term "strategic warfare," is at a much too early stage of development to settle on an agreed definition for the concept.

https://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/96autumn/molander.htm

Below is a quote from Bobby Kennedy on what the Gross National Product means and more importantly what it does not mean....

"Too much and too long, we seem to have surrendered community excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our gross national product ... if we should judge America by that - counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for those who break them. It counts the destruction of our redwoods and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and the cost of a nuclear warhead, and armored cars for police who fight riots in our streets. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children.

"Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages; the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage; neither our wisdom nor our learning; neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country; it measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it tells us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans."

~Robert F. Kennedy Address, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas, March 18, 1968

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 18, 2006 6:54 PM

Word up Jim. There are definately good cops out there and we need em, but those ones who take it upon themselves to attack a protester because they think the protester is the enemy, really get me riled up.

http://www.pulsetc.com/article.php?op=Print&sid=1858

William S. Burroughs
“Commissioner Of Sewers”
(Screen Edge/Eclectic DVD, 1991)

A self-taught, underground rock ’n’ roll columnist has absolutely no business critiquing the dried snot on the jacket sleeve of a real writer like the late William S. Burroughs—let alone some of his most important work—so I’ll forgo any attempts at fancy, embarrassing footwork here and go right to the meat of this one. “Commissioner Of Sewers,” a film by Klaus Maeck, is a swirling, shimmering mix of a respectful, informative interview of the man himself and archival material, film clips, trippy background music and shots of Burroughs’ original paintings. The interview portions (conducted by author Jurgen Ploog) include some fascinating discussions on some of the Beat poet/verbal revolutionary’s personal beliefs and innermost thoughts. Ploog is one of those rare breed of interviewers who is not only able to keep his own admiration for his famous subject in check, but also actually allows the interviewee to think, re-think, and word his answers comfortably. Burroughs was clearly relaxed and enough at ease here to answer some questions he’d obviously been hit with hundreds of times before, and that easy pace brings out some great stories, theories and facial expressions. Sipping frequently from a glass of water, he expounds on such topics as death and dreams, time and space travel, the word as virus, and the cut-up method of writing he championed throughout his life.

http://www.pulsetc.com/image/2005/0601/Burroughs-Sewers.jpg

Some people I believe subconciously associate power with morality. I tend to do exactly the opposite.

Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15619.htm

Al Jazeera English Live Broadcast

Al Jazeera English goes live

Al Jazeera English, the new international news channel from the Qatar-based television network, has begun broadcasting in English from its main studios in Doha.

Greetings!

did anyone happen to catch the Indionesian Students protesting against Bush? I was hoping to find some footage on You Tube. They were wearing Bush masks;and, either they were trying to walk like a chimpansee or a bowlegged cowboy.

It was hilarious!

Time for dessert!

http://www.domai.com/

walk the mischief by e. e. goings

But it's not elves exactly.

I'd wish to know

beyond the silent secret of hiding,

that time sends the honey of romance.

It's a time thing, Mething!

It's a twice-written scroll.

And to reach the control?

It is for pipe and austere..

come songs for his father,

saying...

"Good neight... having out!"

He said it for himself.

He moves in darkness

on the frozen-grough wind.

He moves in darkness

to the sunlit heights.

We kept the rabbit out,

and those that may be armed.

The yelping in his head says,

"Elves in or eat time dead!"

Eat time dead?

lo!

I have given of trees

and of ears of a stone.

But it's not of trees

will nevery pass abreast.

To please the boyish holiday..

He will only say,

"Elves in...or

walk the mischief."

Marcos Communique to Bush

http://prissypatriot.blogspot.com/2006/11/v-is-for-vendettain-washington-dc.html

Please check out these protesters. They were in Washington D.C. last week. Of course you will not see this in our pathetic press.

Hey guys

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 18, 2006 8:44 PM

OH THAT'S SO COOL, EDNA!!!!!!!!!!!

V's!

yes.

edna ellen poe , i cringe at your name, even from the graves plutonian shore

Hi NC... :)

Evening all!! Just got home. Had to shop for provisions after work.

Now I have to put them away.

Taking a little rest first and wanted to say Hi.

Just looking at some local stories.
I'm sure you don't want to hear it..

A black Rush Limbaugh.” Robert Novak reports that Bush political strategists are recommending that former Maryland Senate candidate Michael Steele pursue a career in radio instead of seeking a high-level cabinet post.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/inside_report_steele_speaking.html

Now why would he want to do that?

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at November 18, 2006 8:54 PM

Someday you can tell me how reading about the local death & grief & sorrow & murder every day is helpful to you. You have your reasons I'm sure.

A.

a friend of mine took those pictures with a cellphone. It is her blog. She was in D.C. with some other anti-war protesters. She became active after her son was sent to Iraq. He is home now. However, it is a strong possibility he will be sent back. He is having a terrible time finding a job.

Is Fox Flatlining? CNN, MSNBC Gaining Post-Election
Huffington Post | Rachel Sklar | Posted Saturday November 18, 2006 at 11:48 AM

On election night, the Democrats swept Congress, and CNN swept to a surprise victory over Fox News in the all-important 25-54 demo, beating out the perennial frontrunner to win the total day and coming within a hairsbreadth of meeting their total primetime numbers. The next day, CNN won it all — the demo, total viewers, almost every hour from 10 am to 3 am. Compared to Fox's usual ratings supremacy, it was a rout.

In the week and a half since the election, the numbers have settled somewhat, and Fox is back to number one. But there is no denying the trend: CNN, and now third-place MSNBC, are steadily gaining in share, and Fox is, well, not. It's still the leader, but even before the election it was showing signs of slippage: Its October 2006 numbers reflected a 2% drop in total day and a 9% drop in primetime. CNN was up 15% in total day and lost only 1% in primetime — while underdog MSNBC enjoyed a double-digit jump on both fronts with a 34% leap in day and a 15% hike in primetime, the only network of the three to post gains.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/11/18/is-fox-flatlining-cnn-m_e_33859.html

Well none of the three are great, but, I'd take CNN over Fox any day!

Accepted As The Vox Populi

On Monday, November 6, 2006, “V” visited security check points at the White House, the main Treasury, IRS and Justice Department Buildings and the Capitol. “V’s” purpose was to deliver the People’s Petitions for Redress of Grievances relating to the Government’s violations of the war powers, tax, privacy and money clauses of the Constitution, and to inform key Government officials that at least 100 more “Vs” would be at their doorstep on November 14th expecting a response to the Petitions.

At the White House about a dozen Secret Service agents appeared on foot, bicycles and car to meet “V.” While virtuously assuring the security of the state, they were curious about the image of “V” and asked many questions. Most, when asked if they had seen the movie “V for Vendetta”, smiled their approval.

When an agent asked if “V” would remove his mask for identification purposes, “V” explained that would defeat the very purpose of the mask, which was to give expression to the fact that the nation was becoming a police state, that too many people were becoming afraid to be identified as dissenters or protestors, and that this was not in the long term interest of a free people. The agents accepted the veracity of “V’s” message and refrained from veering “V” from his vanguard visit as the vox populi.

nature wine by e. e. goings

Ah, love, lean and of spray.

Never, for the sea meets thy shadow.

I, and thee, and bring the folds of dreams,

Hoping it on the vast draw back, and in perfect

hear of England.

Cease not till death

this distant northern sea.

And naked shingles of that what I dream..

So gentle, so new.

Hath really neither joy, nor light,

with pulses that I dreamt,

include the long ago.

Heard in the sunshine is good or bad.

I struggle and flow,

while a darkling and schold

invite moon-bland earingles

on liffs of my hand.

Of pebbles which I forbore..

thy touch upon the world,

lay like the land,

the note of my soul...

so new.

Hath really neither joy, nor lift my ease,

and, of that I shall command.

Doom this distand.

Doom thee and stand,

serenely in the wind,

with pulses thy command...

hold the threshold of this distand.

Nature wine

must taste of spray.

On the threshold of its own night-wind,

the alarms of struggle,

for good or bad,

will give grave foreshadow.

Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 18, 2006 8:58 PM

That's really awesome...! I'm glad your friend was there to snap the pics...Of course they can't let anyone see that story...heaven forbid we feel motivated.

I hope her son isn't sent back. When did he join? Did they lie and say he'd never go there?

I'm never sure why people think that military means college funding & education, as opposed to kill people. If there's one thing that should be clear it is that there is a strong possibility of killing someone, or being killed. Should be like the top of the contract or something...

Tell your friend I appreciate being able to see these pictures...& reading her story...

We The People v. The U.S. Government

Case No. 04-CV01211

Landmark Lawsuit Begins With Live National TV Coverage
And March Down Constitution Avenue

Letter From Lawsuit Counsel

On July 19, 2004, at 9 am, approximately 550 people from nearly every state in the Union gathered in the ballroom at the National Press Club in Washington DC. They again, were there awaiting a formal response from high ranking federal officials to a May 10 letter respectfully requesting those officials to attend the July 19 meeting and to respond to the People’s Petitions for Redress of grievances regarding the government’s violation of the taxing, war powers, privacy and money clauses of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

As has been its established practice, the government once more, chose to ignore the People and their Petitions. The officials did not send anyone to meet with the People, to address the issues or to respond to the Petitions by at least letting the People know when they would answer the People’s questions.

From 9 am to shortly after noon, the audience (including an estimated one million people watching the event live on C-SPAN 2 and an estimated 500,000 people listening on C-SPAN radio) was informed about the original meaning, history and significance of the Right to Petition, the now epic struggle by the People to get the government to respond to our Petitions, the futility of individual lawsuits involving constitutional torts, and the particulars of our landmark Right to Petition lawsuit that was filed that afternoon.

At 12:20 pm, the People marched to the District Court of the United States in support of their lawsuit against the United States Government. The lawsuit seeks a declaration of their Right to peaceably hold their servant government accountable to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, by retaining their money until their grievances are redressed and seeks the protection of the Court against retaliation against the plaintiffs for exercising their Rights.

Now in Appeal

Information Center

http://www.givemeliberty.o

Later Edna!

Comic Relief is on TBS. Whoopi, Robin Williams..

They're raising money for the Katrina victims.

Bill O'Rielly is such a goof. Ordinarily I ignore him...but sometimes a quote sneaks by the gates.

Following is a paragraph from an article about the latest sliminess from O.J. Simpson in which, "Surprise!", slimy O'Rielly pops up to say something stunningly stupid.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/books/stranger-than-fiction/2006/11/18/1163266832633.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2

"Simpson is participating in a project that is exploiting the murders," said Bill O'Reilly, the highest-profile of Fox's stable of conservative commentators. "Shamefully, the Fox Broadcasting Unit is set to carry the program, which is simply indefensible, and a low point in American culture. For the record, Fox Broadcasting has nothing to do with the Fox News Channel." This would be news to Rupert Murdoch, the owner of both.
------------------------
Bait note: ReganBooks, Simpson's book publisher, is owned by News Corps which is owned by Murdoch who also owns Fox News and Fox Broadcasting and, apparently, Bill O'Rielly. Poor Bill just hasn't figured it out yet.

Special Marks 20th Anniversary of The Original "Comic Relief" On HBO
The live all-star comedy event COMIC RELIEF 2006 will be seen SATURDAY, NOV. 18 (9:00 p.m.-midnight live ET/tape-delayed PT) on HBO and TBS
Read More

http://www.comicrelief.org/pdfs/COMIC_RELIEF_2006_Sepv2.pdf

Bill Maher is on Comic Relief right now!

GOP LEADER: "Rove Misread The Anger Of The American People About Iraq"...
The New York Times | JIM RUTENBERG and ADAM NAGOURNEY | November 18, 2006 05:38 PM

Karl Rove, the top White House political strategist, is coming off the worst election defeat of his career to face a daunting task: saving the president's agenda with a Congress not only controlled by Democrats, but also filled with Republican members resentful of the way he and the White House conducted the losing campaign.

White House officials say President Bush has every intention of keeping Mr. Rove on through the rest of his term. And Mr. Rove's associates say he intends to stay, with the goal of at least salvaging Mr. Bush's legacy and, in the process, his own.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/washington/19rove.html?hp&ex=1163912400&en=3d7666a9cf7533df&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Someday you can tell me how reading about the
local death & grief & sorrow & murder every day
is helpful to you. You have your reasons I'm sure.

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 8:57 PM

Pretty sarcastic.

Donald Rumsfeld is actually quite talented at oragamy. Bet you didn't know that. Watch this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6BuDQ5z6s8

Atty. Gen. Gonzales Attacks Critics As Bush Admin Tries To Push Warrantless Wiretapping Through Lame-Duck Congress...
Associated Press | Chase Squires | November 18, 2006 04:38 PM

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales contended Saturday that some critics of the Bush administration's warrantless surveillance program were defining freedom in a way that poses a "grave threat" to U.S. security.

Gonzales was the second administration official in two days to attack a federal judge's ruling last August that the program was unconstitutional. Vice President
Dick Cheney on Friday called the ruling "an indefensible act of judicial overreaching."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061118/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/gonzales

Little Brother sent me the file... for those who can't or don't care to listen on MySpace...

Immortal Sole -- Dance With Me

Iraq Police Force Failing: "Casualties Are High, Morale Is Low And Many...Do Not Show Up For Work"...
The New York Times | Kirk Semple | November 18, 2006 07:30 PM

Capt. Stephanie A. Bagley and the military police company she commands arrived in Iraq in December 2005 brimming with optimism about taking on one of the most urgent tasks in Iraq: building a new police force...

...The local police force in her region, as in much of Iraq, remains undertrained, poorly equipped and unable to stand up to the rigors of this conflict. It offers little resistance to the relentless Sunni Arab-led insurgency and has at least partly come under the sway of wily Shiite militias. Casualties are high, morale is low and many police officers do not show up for work.

READ FULL STORY

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/world/middleeast/19captain.html?hp&ex=1163912400&en=67a1f1d2a105c7f4&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at November 18, 2006 9:52 PM

I'm terrible like that..I know..I'm sorry...

I explained to you on the phone why I don't think it's great to O.D. on those things... What I really mean is that you're right, I probably don't want to read the stories, & you are perfectly free to read them & post them..

Little Brother sent me the file... for those who can't or don't care to listen on MySpace...

Immortal Sole -- Dance With Me

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 9:58 PM

Nice Fish....a little Reggae beat

~~~ Nice Fish....a little Reggae beat ~~~

He's a blond-haired Reggae Mon.

He and I might work up a little set to play at a place he knows in Boulder Colorado.

Maybe this Summer.

Maybe this Summer.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 10:05 PM

That will be fun. Tape it!!

Good idea!

Maybe video it. Me and lil bro (who's a bit bigger than me) with our knit green, yellow and red Rasta hats.

Donald Rumsfeld is actually quite talented at oragamy. Bet you didn't know that. Watch this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6BuDQ5z6s8

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at November 18, 2006 9:53 PM

I like when he rolls the funny cigarette!!

Good idea!

Maybe video it. Me and lil bro (who's a bit bigger than me) with our knit green, yellow and red Rasta hats.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 10:12 PM

Video would be great! You can put it on youtube!

He sent me another one. I'm getting it ready.

Bro's gotta voice!

He and I might work up a little set to play at a place he knows in Boulder Colorado.
Maybe this Summer.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 10:05 PM
------------------------------------------------
I can only hope that Fishgrease is listed on the bill as Bunny Whaler.

~~~ I can only hope that Fishgrease is listed on the bill as Bunny Whaler. ~~~

I actually like that!

Don't call us, we'll call YouTube, agents say

· Hollywood scouts look to sign makers of hit videos
· Creators worry about losing their indie appeal

Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Saturday November 18, 2006
The Guardian

The "tenpercenteries" - Hollywood agents who take their cut of an artist's earnings - are going after budding film-makers, writers, directors and actors who have sidestepped the studios to gain an audience by posting video on the web.
With the rise of file-sharing sites such as YouTube and Revver, agents have decided there is money to be made. Last month the United Talent Agency, one of the biggest in Hollywood, launched an online unit. "The agency has long been scouring the internet for new clients," said Brent Weinstein, UTA's head of digital media. "But traditionally we'd immediately try to flip them into film and TV."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1951082,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=12

He didn't want me to put this one out there much... but fuck that. It's good.

Immortal Sole -- The Man Don't Care

This was sort of a 1st take sort of thing. He's gonna re-do some of the guitar and replace the background vocals with women.... vocals.

I'm impressed. Lil Bro turned out okay.

Plays a Strat, by the way.

Blair hit by Saudi 'bribery' threat
David Leppard



SAUDI ARABIA is threatening to suspend diplomatic ties with Britain unless Downing Street intervenes to block an investigation into a £60m “slush fund” allegedly set up for some members of its royal family.

A senior Saudi diplomat in London has delivered an ultimatum to Tony Blair that unless the inquiry into an allegedly corrupt defence deal is dropped, diplomatic links between Britain and Saudi Arabia will be severed, a defence source has disclosed.

The Saudis, key allies in the Middle East, have also threatened to cut intelligence co-operation with Britain over Al-Qaeda.

They have repeated their threat that they will terminate payments on a defence contract that could be worth £40 billion and safeguard at least 10,000 British jobs.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2459780,00.html

I explained to you on the phone why I don't think it's great to O.D. on those things...

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 10:01 PM

Unfortunatly it's one of the
main things about the place.
I don't think I'll ever get
used to it. I should have been
out of this town long ago and
will go asap.

Immortal Sole -- The Man Don't Care

This was sort of a 1st take sort of thing. He's gonna re-do some of the guitar and replace the background vocals with women.... vocals.

I'm impressed. Lil Bro turned out okay.

Plays a Strat, by the way.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 10:33 PM

Quick time gave me a big question mark right in the middle of the Q

hmmmmm....

I'll rename it. I think it's my server messing with the apostrophe in "Don't"

DOJ won't investigate Erlich/Steele bamboozling campaign flyers.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011202.php

Okay... try this one.

Immortal Sole -- The Man Dont Care

that's beautiful guitar work, Fish, especially his use of the wah wah. How long has he been playing?

Convicted WH Official Dodges Jail -- For Now
By Justin Rood - November 18, 2006, 11:17 AM
Former White House official David Safavian, sentenced to 18 months in prison for crimes related to his relationship with Jack Abramoff, isn't headed to the pokey quite yet. A federal judge has decided to let him remain free until his appeals have been heard, GovExec.com reports:

Appeals can take several years, so Safavian's sentence of 18 months -- if upheld -- will not begin until after that ruling.
In his opinion granting the request, U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman cited the section of U.S. Code that says that if a person is not likely to flee, and the appeal raises a substantial question of law likely to result in a reversal, new trial or different sentence, then the judge can grant a request for release on bond.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002013.php

~~~ that's beautiful guitar work, Fish, especially his use of the wah wah. How long has he been playing? ~~~

Almost as long as me.

Decades.

He's actually better than he plays in those songs. Doesn't like second takes.

http://paranormalityuniverse.blogspot.com/2006/11/something-empowering-is-in-air.html

*

I'm waiting for them to download now, Fish.. I heard the very first bit of the first one & wow...sounds great!....Ummm...how old is he? ;)

He's actually better than he plays in those songs. Doesn't like second takes.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 10:52 PM

He's up there with the best. Amazing what decades of practice will do.

I posted this a few days ago, but for those who missed it....

A trip down Majority Report lane.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8GqLu_CsXo

~~~ I'm waiting for them to download now, Fish.. I heard the very first bit of the first one & wow...sounds great!....Ummm...how old is he? ;) ~~~

43... 44...

Something like that.

Fish, is the first clip only 11 seconds? Or is mine timing out early or something?

& the second one is 1:02...that one was also good...

Fish, is the first clip only 11 seconds? Or is mine timing out early or something?

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 10:59 PM

The song is around 4 minutes. You'll have to call me so I can play it to you over the phone.

hee hee

Ummm...how old is he? ;)
Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 10:55 PM
------------------------------------------
Ancient. 39 or more.

~~~ Fish, is the first clip only 11 seconds? Or is mine timing out early or something? ~~~

No. It's mimutes long.

Try right-clicking and saving it to your hard drive.

"The Man Don't Care" I posted at 10:33 PM won't work now.

Posted by: Crank "According To The Carbon Dating" Bait at November 18, 2006 11:03 PM

:)
Grrrrrr...

Yeah it was funny..yesterday I dreamed I turned 40.... Glad that's over with... :)

This guy is old, but he can kick Green Day's ass anyday....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRblTSqo1f0

They must both be crapping out then..I saved the links to d/l when I'm at work Monday...

Lets see.

Dance with me is almost 4 minutes and The Man Dont Care is almost 7 minutes.

Yeah it was funny..yesterday I dreamed I turned 40.... Glad that's over with... :)

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 11:05 PM

wait till I start calling you "mam", that'll really get to you. :)

You might have better luck a little later, Shell. Like I said... save em to your hard drive and then play em.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at November 18, 2006 11:08 PM

>8-[

That's how I tried to save it...no workie...poops out...I'll get em Monday...

You two would play great together..have you ever made music with him before?

~~~ You two would play great together..have you ever made music with him before? ~~~

Nothing we recorded.

Used to jam some.

Truthfully, I didn't know he was this good. That sounds stupid... but it's true.

And when you are 60 they will start calling you Miss again.

Posted by: toniD at November 18, 2006 11:15 PM

Ha! Percs...cool.. :)

Is it just me or does the democratic victory seem vey flat. Im glad of course that so many republicans are now resting in the elephants grave yard but I really cant say I feel happy. Look at the faces that are being presented as the ones responsible for our "victory". Chuck Schumer-an asshole. I dont know how he got into the democratic party but hes no liberal on any economic issue. Rahn Emanuel-I dont know if hes gay but as a gay person he makes me think of the creepiest sleeziest most abusive elements of my community. I dont like him, and wish hed leave the party. Then Nacy Pelosi-I like her but she seems like an idiot.

They all sort of seem corrupt to me. Where are the advocates for the poor, the helpless, the people that need government. Its the same Hillary Clinton repoblicans -pretending to be democrats-that have ruined the party for the last 20 years.

Meanwhile people like Howard Dean are being openly mocked by that bald ugly bi polar freak Carville and all the other republican dems.

I wonder what the future holds but I feel like we are about to be betrayed on a collosal scale by the dems. Watch and see how the snuggle up to Bush-the great corrupter.

Anyway I hope Im wrong but I smell a democRAT.

Is it just me or does the democratic victory seem vey flat. Im glad of course that so many republicans are now resting in the elephants grave yard but I really cant say I feel happy. Look at the faces that are being presented as the ones responsible for our "victory". Chuck Schumer-an asshole. I dont know how he got into the democratic party but hes no liberal on any economic issue. Rahn Emanuel-I dont know if hes gay but as a gay person he makes me think of the creepiest sleeziest most abusive elements of my community. I dont like him, and wish hed leave the party. Then Nacy Pelosi-I like her but she seems like an idiot.

They all sort of seem corrupt to me. Where are the advocates for the poor, the helpless, the people that need government. Its the same Hillary Clinton repoblicans -pretending to be democrats-that have ruined the party for the last 20 years.

Meanwhile people like Howard Dean are being openly mocked by that bald ugly bi polar freak Carville and all the other republican dems.

I wonder what the future holds but I feel like we are about to be betrayed on a collosal scale by the dems. Watch and see how the snuggle up to Bush-the great corrupter.

Anyway I hope Im wrong but I smell a democRAT.

At times, the troubadours distinguished three types of love:

PURE LOVE -- true, excellent love -- the union of hearts and minds of lovers -- which
yearns for and at times is rewarded by every delight except physical possession.

MIXED LOVE -- the love of physical possession. Good insofar as it can begins with
pure love (union of hearts and minds of lovers); not so good in that it ends in physical
union. Danger: it will weaken desire and remember: desire is productive of all good.

FALSE LOVE -- evil and impure, founded on sensuality for its own sake, faithless,
promiscuous and mercenary -- reduces man to level of beast -- counterfeit of true love
-- source of evil practiced by the wanton, the criminal, the debauched.

New Love and the gentle heart are the same thing
just as the wise man set down in his poems.
And the one without the other could no more exist.
than the thoughtful soul if thought did not.
Nature made them both one day when amorous,
New Love as Lord, and the heart as his great seat;
inside that house New Love lies there sleeping
perhaps a month or two, perhaps for years --
Then it is beauty in a savvy woman that appears,
and beauty pleases his eye so much that deep inside
a desire is born toward this desirable thing.
And sometimes the desire remains alive in him
so long that it makes the spirit of New Love wake up.
A generous man has the same effect upon a woman.

Dante -- Trans. Robert Bly

Posted by: billc at November 18, 2006 11:18 PM

I like to be hopeful..but I tend to agree with you...Poltics sucks...ALWAYS...Voltaire has a good quote about it..can't find it now...But it basically makes me think that if it sucked then..it sucks now...for people anyway..not for the elected fucks who get taken care of at our expense for their lives...

Here... I just came up with this this morning while I was falling asleep.

The proud man cannot be in love because he becomes proud of being in love.

Sounds a lot more meaningful than it is, probably.

The Troubadour poetry was devoted to praising the woman lover and to express her male lover’s submission to her that reaches a point of idealization of the lover. The troubadour remains a symbol of faith, loyalty and unconditional submission to the beloved. Even after the troubadour phenomenon was over, poets continued to celebrate them and their love poems. For example, in the nineteenth-century, the Romantic poet Walter Scott celebrates the troubadour in a short poem entitled “The troubadour.” There, he describes a troubadour, singer and musician, regardless of anything living around him, marched to the battlefield in defense of his country, “with helm on head and harp in hand” idolizing his beloved to the end of his life.

The first stanza of the poem reads:

Glowing with love, on fire for fame,
A Troubadour that hated sorrow
Beneath his lady’s window came,
And thus he sung his last good-morrow:
‘My arm it is my country’s right,
My heart is in my true love’s bower;
Gayly for love and fame to fight
Befits the gallant Troubadour.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 11:28 PM

I think it's pretty romantical of you to even be thinking of love... :)

Yeah... my romanticality is legendary.

Rmomancness....

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 11:32 PM

:)

I'm probably a Roman.

Edna ellen: Here's what my friend said about the V links..

Hi Shelly,

This was interesting. And encouraging. I thought the police and security forces, while acting in ways that we expect those people to act, were on the whole quite reasonable, even more than I might have expected. I might have thought this guy would be wrestled to the ground, his mask ripped off, and then he would be taken to jail. In fact, they were treated with quite a bit of respect and the police were pretty much willing to adapt to an unfamiliar situation. Maybe the situation is not as bad as I might have thought.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 18, 2006 11:34 PM

Probably...

So is work still crazy busy or what?

~~~ So is work still crazy busy or what? ~~~

Yeah. Not pleasant.

Speaking of which.....

: {

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 11:25 PM

Always keep your eye on the bastards in power. Never believe that they will "do the right thing".

A., Reds just came out on DVD. You should check it out (if you haven't already), I think you'll like it....

Night all. Fading fast again.

Later

Reds with Warren Beatty? I haven't seen it..I'll check it out, GG, thanks... :)

Good night, Toni

& Fish... goin' back to work...? So you'll be poppin in tonight?

~~~ & Fish... goin' back to work...? So you'll be poppin in tonight? ~~~

Yeah. Inna few hours.

Posted by: A. at November 18, 2006 11:47 PM

That's the one...Beatty won best director for it...

You may have heard of New Orleans Flips.

You may have heard.

Say, he's a very hip cat, The Hip Flips

blew in on the cons in beauty.

Hoobadoo Cop-out

This man's heart goes dong.

He was real tighteen with the chicks

the Maharaja cat.

He had seventeen chicks in a wonderstand?

He had a big Maharaja.

He was the buddy cat

as a matter of fact,

he had all kinds of gold laying around.

Made you gots to get to it.

Made you want to kill him.

But to get to the Man,

you want to see Hoobadoo.

He entertains you, great and sweet!

I'm a big swingin' groovey sofa pillow,

said an insane Flips.

He said, "Tell me some nice swingin' shit today,

'cause he got loaded.

Well, like I 'splained to ya,

the life of the scowling chinches.

(Short time, boys.)

They sit him in with another Mr. Rabadee...

big jam sessions... "Groovey pole on another

sphere!"

It was all the India! It gassed India.

"Tell me some nice swing," The Hip Man

say, "Well, shit if I ain't!"

You may have heard of New Orleans Flips,

Bugged wid da lion's tail so hard.

It was before he found the way there."

And whew, here he come!

Sayin' "Hey little babies,

I'm goin' with the wig tappers,

a lushhound cat, with chinches".

(Short time, boys.)

My lords, and ladies of the scene

and Tommy Noone!

You know that wig

on the horn rim glasses

and all get it on and come

"The Hip Man Way."

Wig tappers and kitties of many musics,

we had to know that's too little, babies.

I'm goin' "The Hip Man way,

and never with good musicians.

Just insane in morgue iceboxes. >[R.I.P.]

(Short time, boys.)

And them poor Indian cats,

scuffling into the "Stroll."

Playin' in all the lame joints.

Look so sharp and hip

you see Indian cats! Yow!

The most famous of the Greek lyric poets were Archilochus, Sappho, and Alkaios, who created their work in the seventh and sixth centuries BC, during what I would call the first definitively individualistic period in Western history (see A.R. Burn, The Lyric Age of Greece). Let's look at some of the textual evidence for this individualism.

Whereas the epic poems celebrated valor, cunning, and other traditional heroic virtues, the lyric poet Archilochus, who is often considered to be the founder of genre, expressed quite different thoughts. In one of his most famous poems he shrugs off the fact that he left his shield under a bush when he ran from battle to save his life, a cowardly act of self-preservation that Homer never would have celebrated. While in some of his poems Archilochus showed that he could be as crude as any common soldier, in others he manifested a softer, introspective side. Always, however, he expresses his own thoughts and feelings, his own likes and dislikes, no matter if they went against convention:

I don't like a mighty general with long-straddling legs
Who exults in his curly hair and trim mustache.
Give me a short one whose legs are crooked,
Steady on his feat, a giant in his heart.

just had a good time playing along with yer bro's recording FG.

enjoyed it immensely, was fine, real fine!

"Hilton Ruiz & Cesar Camargo Mariano" Jazz at Lincoln Center 57:59

October 12, 2006

Hilton Ruiz & Cesar Camargo Mariano — Two virtuosos bring rhythms from across the border to bebop and swing inspired piano styles. The radiant Hilton Ruiz, who tragically passed away in June of 2006, performs an energetic set from the Afro-Cuban canon. Cesar Carmargo Mariano moves listeners with savory compositions and arrangements from Brazil.

third greens by e.e. goings

Cemetery Blues,

Bleedin' Hearted,

and number two.

Boom! Put it in!

It's easy.

She look for Bession with the chime.

Boom! Pull it out tight-lipped!

That chick gonna do it!

She goes neurotic.

Color me like third greens in my spine,

like they say he's sittin'!

And had my Bession with the chime.

Boom. That chick gonna do it!

Pull it out tight-lipped!

Pull it out tight-lipped!

http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html

A MILITARY HISTORY TIMELINE OF
WAR AND CONFLICT ACROSS THE GLOBE
3000 B.C. to A.D. 1999

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/18/AR2006111800484.html?nav=rss_email/components

Update on Padilla

After he was arrested in 2002, Jose Padilla was considered so dangerous that he was held without charges in a military prison for more than three years — accused first of plotting a radiological "dirty bomb" attack and later of conspiring with al-Qaeda to blow up apartment buildings with natural gas.

But now, nearly a year after his abrupt transfer into a regular criminal court, the Justice Department's prosecution of the former Chicago gang member is running into trouble.

Republican-appointed federal judge in Miami has already dumped the most serious conspiracy count against Padilla, removing for now the possibility of a life sentence. The same judge has also disparaged the government's case as "light on facts," while defense lawyers have made detailed allegations that Padilla was illegally tortured, threatened and perhaps even drugged during his detention at a Navy brig in South Carolina. Read on…

"We must not allow ourselves to become like the system we oppose. We cannot afford to use methods of which we will be ashamed when we look back, when we say, '...we shouldn't have done that.'

-Desmond Tutu

If you have a chance you might want to
check out the Hilton Ruiz program...

"Jazz Walk" McCoy Tyner Trio 08:49

McCoy Tyner (p) Avery Sharpe (b) Louis Hayes (d)
Studio 44, Nonster, Holland - June 9 1987

Dead Blog=======================================================================================================================================================================================================

Great Doo Wop show on KCTS tv from seattle on now!!!

"Inception" McCoy Tyner - Night Lights 59:08

McCoy Tyner Trio

McCoy Tyner (p) Kind Davis (B) Elvin Jones (D)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 10, 1962

~~~ just had a good time playing along with yer bro's recording FG ~~~

We all gotta get together.

G'morning...

Abu Gonzales : Upholding the Constitution is "Grave Threat" to U.S.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/18/20647/929

Just in...

Howdy NC, CC, and Fish!

G'morning, MJP. I'm not all here, playing catch-up with news, comics, blogs...

Hiya, Fishgrease. I was thinking about you the other day. I tuned into the stream for WWOZ (NO,LA), and they were starting a set of emotionally evocative songs featuring female vocalists beginning with Nina Simone's Wild is the Wind, and I recalled a thread or two here were you posted links in a similar vein. :)

I am not gonna read the news anymore...

It is just too depressing.

I swear, these people are not happy unless they're

killing somebody.

Yeah.

Nina Simone was amazing.

I have to take vacations from the news. It's especially important to decompress after election cycles. The last two weeks I've been more interested in looking at old news. In spite of avoiding news, I've heard the word populist a lot lately. I remember that when they started reinventing W (trying to change him from a rich, spoiled, drunken, ne-er-do-well, partying frat boy whose daddy had to bail him out at every turn) into a compassionate conservative (conservatism being the current brand name for runamuck corporatism) they started with the term populist. Apparently it didn't test well and they dropped it. Here's an "interview" with David Horowitz from 1999:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/05/06/bush/

(conservatism being the current brand name for runamuck corporatism) they started with the term populist. Apparently it didn't test well and they dropped it. Here's an "interview" with David Horowitz from 1999:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/05/06/bush/

Posted by: Cat Chew at November 19, 2006 4:50 AM

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HA!

Checking it now, CC.

"I'm a uniter, not a divider"

Bush
George W. Bush talks with David Horowitz about going from patrician to populist -- and from party boy to presidential front-runner.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By David Horowitz

May 6, 1999 | I like George Bush. He has a strong

Bush has the charisma of a national leader, but a personal style that is both down-home and down-to-earth. He is relaxed and disciplined at the same time, a Republican who seems comfortable in his own skin.

--------

I am speechless.

That is so funny, words could only add to the insult.

It stands as is.

What do they pay that guy?

They figured out how they were going to sell their product (W), and they have stayed the course in their advertising campaign. The product is obsolete now, but still has a large share of the market.

I have the Sam-Cam from Friday running. I was listening to that stream in real time Friday, but I couldn't actually watch the video. Just now was listening to SEDER's reflex reaction to Carville on Stephanie Miller's show. I wish everyone would remember these folks are just PR hacks (not political strategists), and they play for pay, not necessarily out of conviction. Carville, Matalin, Morris, Rove, even though they lean to one side or another, and they might do your side some good, and in Rove's case, might even be in thrall to someone in particular, these folks are never your friends. Carville did put forth an astonishingly good idea prior to the election. He said the Democratic Party should take out a multi-million dollar loan for this election. This was good advice to the Dems, but self-serving for Carville because it's folks like him who get to wet their beaks first.

I was thinking about The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" but I want to change the lyrics to: Meet the new Coke™, better than the old Coke™! Ew!!!

They figured out how they were going to sell their product (W), and they have stayed the course in their advertising campaign. The product is obsolete now, but still has a large share of the market.

-----

Succinct and true.

A pic for War Doggy

~~~ I wish everyone would remember these folks are just PR hacks (not political strategists), and they play for pay, not necessarily out of conviction. Carville, Matalin, Morris, Rove, even though they lean to one side or another, and they might do your side some good, and in Rove's case, might even be in thrall to someone in particular, these folks are never your friends. ~~~

Superb analysis.

Perfectly true.

The Young Republicans are on again, so they can whine a little more about Al Sharpton.

What a fakes.

"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself. No, this is not a joke: kill yourself . . .
I know what the marketing people are thinking now too: 'Oh. He's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market!'
Oh man, I am not doing that, you fucking evil scumbags."

~~~Bill Hicks

Anyone remember the PR firm Hill & Knowlton and "The Good War" against Iraq?
http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

Molly Ivins: In my opinion, Americans are not getting screwed by the Republican Party. They are getting screwed by Large Corporations that bought and own the Republican Party.

Okay, I think I'm just about finished talking about PR and advertising and hacks and flaks for today. Thanks for putting up with me, fellas. ;)

A pic for War Doggy

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 19, 2006 6:02 AM

Is he still flipping a purple finger around here?

"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself. No, this is not a joke: kill yourself . . .
I know what the marketing people are thinking now too: 'Oh. He's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market!'
Oh man, I am not doing that, you fucking evil scumbags."

~~~Bill Hicks

------

A fan to be sure.

Nice job, CC.

Posted by: MJP at November 19, 2006 7:21 AM

Glad you like it. You should see all the Bill Hicks quotes I didn't post. I miss the fella.

He was a tresure.

He was so on top of stuff...

I think he may have been offed.

Instead of listening to The Young Twits, check out:

Timothy Leary: How to Operate Your Brain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crOsOq9DZGU

Morning all!!

Watching CNN's Sanjay Gupta. His program is about Happiness and who are the happiest people.

One of the polls have repubs happier than Dems and Both happier than Independents.

Hmmm! Now why do you think that is?

G'morning, toniD :)

Unhappy R's and D's both become independent rather than choose a new party. The Indy happiness index is suffering from an influx of unhappy former political party members.

Personally, I think anyone who primarily identifies themself as a member of any party is silly and doomed to become an unhappy independent eventually.

That's what I was thinking.

And if you are happy with the status quo, changes aren't made. So being unhappy with something isn't all bad.

So you can make a case for extreme happiness as a form of mind control.

I have a basket full of other answers to that question. Not sure I believe any of them.

"And if you are happy with the status quo, changes aren't made. So being unhappy with something isn't all bad."

Yes, I do agree with that.
And frequently, ignorance is bliss.

Kind of a deep subject for so early on a Sunday morning. That Gupta show was a repeat from yesterday. I half watched it yesterday but paid attention today.

There was also a segment on laugh therapy. A group of people get together and just laugh for no reason. It may be good in ways but it just says "cult" to me.

Maybe I am a cynical old lady, but my BS siren just went off when I saw it.

Here is the Sunday Talking Head line-up. Read it and weep…or, just read it, there are actually a few interesting guests in the line-up this morning, and some of them are popping up in unexpected places:

Washington Journal (C-Span): 7:45am - David Corn, The Nation, Washington Editor & Franklin Foer, The New Republic, Editor; 8:30am - Newspaper Articles & Viewer Calls; 9am - Catharin Dalpino, Georgetown University, South Asia Studies Professor; 9:30am - Imad Moustapha, Syrian Ambassador to the U.S.

Meet the Press (NBC): Senators-elect Jon Tester and Jim Webb; Ted Koppel and Robin Wright on Iraq.

This Week (ABC): Sen. John McCain; Rep. Steny Hoyer; Jimmie Johnson, race car driver and bone marrow drive supporter; Fareed Zakaria, George Will and Robert Reich.

Face the Nation (CBS): Rep. Charlie Rangel; Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Late Edition (CNN): Sen. Carl Levin: Armed Services Committee, D-Michigan; Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison: Veterans Affairs Committee, R-Texas; Samir Sumaidaie: Iraqi Ambassador to United States; Rep. James Clyburn: Majority whip-elect, D-South Carolina; Rep. Roy Blunt: Minority whip-elect, R-Missouri; Ken Adelman: Former assistant secretary of defense; David Frum: Former speechwriter for President Bush and author of "The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush"; Michael Rubin: Resident scholar, American Enterprise Institute.

Fox News Sunday: Sen. John Kerry and Newt Gingrich.

There was also a segment on laugh therapy. A group of people get together and just laugh for no reason. It may be good in ways but it just says "cult" to me.

Maybe I am a cynical old lady, but my BS siren just went off when I saw it.

Posted by: toniD at November 19, 2006 9:12 AM

I dunno, but I saw a video clip of a group of people standing on a corner and laughing loudly for no apparent reason, and that part tickled me. I wouldn't mind getting a group of like-minded pranksters together to do that just to see what happens. I reckon either nothing would happen or we'd all get arrested because we looked like suspicious characters; if they're all laughing they must be up to something!

----------------------

Here's something I've seen quoted on the blog many times, most recently by Jim, that bears on happiness/satisfaction with the political status quo:

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."

~~~Frank Zappa (1977)

I guess I'm thinking that if you belong to one of the big two, you have the illusion of being in control, and that would tend to make you happier.

That's the reason, I think, that the poll showed the repubs being happier. They have been in control for many years.

It's a game and it's gamesmanship! Who has the upper hand (power). And a normal person feels he is more powerful just by association because he/she is a member of that party. Even though he/she is suffering from that party's decisions!

It's a game and it's gamesmanship! Who has the upper hand (power). And a normal person feels he is more powerful just by association because he/she is a member of that party. Even though he/she is suffering from that party's decisions!

Posted by: toniD at November 19, 2006 9:26 AM

Bingo!

My favorite "populist":

Molly Ivins
Populist lagniappe
April 28, 2005

AUSTIN, Texas -- Being of the populist persuasion, I am a terminal fan of Thomas Frank, who has gone from "What's the Matter With Kansas?" to "What's the Matter With Liberals?" in the current issue of the New York Review of Books, which is a good spot for it.

Those of us in the beer-drinking, pick-up-truck-driving, country-music-listening school of liberals in the hinterlands particularly appreciate his keen dissection of how the Republicans use class resentment against "elitist liberals," while waging class warfare on people who work for a living.

Much more here: http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2005/1118

Cat, We should email that article to our Senators and Reps.

I am going to send it to Obama for sure, because he voted for that abomination of a bankruptcy bill.

Carville?

http://static.firedoglake.com/2006/11/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing.jpg

Posted by: toniD at November 19, 2006 9:44 AM

I've been sending stuff like that to Senator Debbie Stabenow every chance I get, she's one who frequently votes against the best interests of regular folks, including that abomination of a bankruptcy bill, while waving the "bipartisan" flag. Someone asked me how I could vote for her knowing she'd voted against me, but she doesn't vote against me 100% of the time like her Republican counterparts do, and I think the Democratic party is changing. I still like the way Howard Dean is trying to rebuild the foundation rather than put up a new shiny facade, f'rinstance.

More about Molly Ivins:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003380585
http://www.ibcsurvivors.org/molly.html

I gotta go. See you later, Toni! Stay warm and take care.

Later Cat!

Sheesh.

If Cat Chew is going to continue to eloquently and succinctly express her cogent thoughts on U.S. politics and society, I'll have a lot more time to devote to crappy jokes.

Embittered Insiders Turn Against Bush

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 19, 2006; A01

The weekend after the statue of Saddam Hussein fell, Kenneth Adelman and a couple of other promoters of the Iraq war gathered at Vice President Cheney's residence to celebrate. The invasion had been the "cakewalk" Adelman predicted. Cheney and his guests raised their glasses, toasting President Bush and victory. "It was a euphoric moment," Adelman recalled.

Forty-three months later, the cakewalk looks more like a death march, and Adelman has broken with the Bush team. He had an angry falling-out with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld this fall. He and Cheney are no longer on speaking terms. And he believes that "the president is ultimately responsible" for what Adelman now calls "the debacle that was Iraq."

Adelman, a former Reagan administration official and onetime member of the Iraq war brain trust, is only the latest voice from inside the Bush circle to speak out against the president or his policies. Heading into the final chapter of his presidency, fresh from the sting of a midterm election defeat, Bush finds himself with fewer and fewer friends. Some of the strongest supporters of the war have grown disenchanted, former insiders are registering public dissent and Republicans on Capitol Hill blame him for losing Congress.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/18/AR2006111801076_pf.html

NY Times: Bush wants Rove by his side til the end
by Joe in DC - 11/18/2006 09:36:00 PM

Lots of rumors lately about the future of Karl Rove. The NYT maintains he's staying. Bush wants him. That's great. Karl can keep doing for Bush and the GOP what he's done for them for the past two year. It takes a lot of work to get your boss down to a 33% approval rating and to lose both the House and the Senate:
White House officials say President Bush has every intention of keeping Mr. Rove on through the rest of his term. And Mr. Rove’s associates say he intends to stay, with the goal of at least salvaging Mr. Bush’s legacy and, in the process, his own.

But serious questions remain about how much influence Mr. Rove can wield and how high a profile he can assume in Washington after being so closely identified with this year’s Republican losses, not to mention six years of often brutal attacks on the same Democrats in line to control Congress for the remainder of Mr. Bush’s presidency.

Things have not gotten off to a great start since the election. Democrats are taking Mr. Rove’s continued influence at the White House — as well as some of its recent moves, like nominating conservative judges for the federal bench — as a sign that Mr. Bush’s conciliatory pledges of bipartisanship will prove to be fleeting.
Rove's got one way of playing politics. Appease the theocrats and scare the rest of the country. Doesn't work anymore, but he can't change.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/ny-times-bush-wants-rove-by-his-side.html

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/ny-times-bush-wants-rove-by-his-side.html

Posted by: toniD at November 19, 2006 10:36 AM

What we have to suffer through is the little brat president and his buddy Karl, and father Bush with his 80 yr. old buddies trying to save the family name from disgrace. What a show this is going to be.

We'll also suffer through watching the MSM, which sided with the little brat, report on his ass whipping from the father. Let's dump the Bush family on one of their remote islands so that can settle their family differences without killing the rest of us.

Mornin'!

Ohio State 42 Michigan 39

Last night...the pick four in the Ohio Lottery

came out

4239

I shit you not!

UPS Worker Raped Girl He Met On Route: Cops

4239

I shit you not!

Posted by: Peter Dragon at November 19, 2006 12:18 PM

maybe there is a god

Spitting lands driver in big trouble

NEW YORK, Nov. 17 (UPI) -- A driver who decided to take aim and spit at a New York traffic agent who was giving him a ticket ended up in jail facing gun and burglary tools charges.

Ganija Vucetovic of Hazleton, Pa., was arrested for spitting in the borough of Queens, the New York Post reported. During a search, police found live ammunition in his pocket.

When officers searched his vehicle, they found an even bigger haul, including three loaded handguns, truncheons, brass knuckles and window punchers.

Police Identify Woman's Body Found Bound In Bronx

NEW YORK -- The body of a young woman found in a Bronx park has been identified as 24-year-old Stacey Inman.

Inman's body was found Wednesday morning near Bronx Boulevard and Rosewood Street in the Bronx.

Police said the woman's hands and feet were bound and her partially naked body was stuffed in a plastic bag.

On Thursday, the medical examiner's office ruled Inman's death a homicide.

Investigators haven't said how or why the woman was killed.

Police haven't arrested any suspects

I'm looking forward to Bush's State of the Union address before the Democratic Congress. The cheers will be silencing.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=11441

The Price of Imperial Arrogance
by Stephen Lendman

Analysis: Israel sees shale replacing oil
By LEAH KRAUSS
UPI Energy Correspondent

HAIFA, Israel, Nov. 7 (UPI) -- The Israeli process for producing energy from oil shale will cut its oil imports by one-third, and will serve as a guide for other countries with oil shale deposits, according to one company.

A.F.S.K. Hom Tov presented its oil shale processing method on Tuesday, outside Haifa and just down the street from one of the country's two oil refinery facilities.

"Because the patents for this process belong to (the company), Israel is the most advanced in the world in the effort to create energy from oil shale," Moshe Shahal, a Hom Tov legal representative and a former Israeli energy minister, told United Press International.

http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/11/19/an-inconvenient-truth-part-1-of-2/

There was also a segment on laugh therapy. A group of people get together and just laugh for no reason. It may be good in ways but it just says "cult" to me.

Maybe I am a cynical old lady, but my BS siren just went off when I saw it.

Posted by: toniD at November 19, 2006 9:12 AM

Happiness makes toniD sad.

City Murder Rate Is Up, But Police Say NYC Is Not More Dangerous

City a bit bloodier

Did anyone catch Leslie 'Wolf' Blitzer just now?

These for neocons tried to blame it all on Condi.

Everyone screwed up except they themselves.

Posted by: I at November 19, 2006 1:11 PM

I saw it. One of the interesting points made was that the Bush Administration didn't work for "democratization" but "occupation" instead. The whole PNAC plan was silly to begin with. It's like War Dog saying we're not giving the War Dog Failure Plan enough time to succeed.

(Listening to Powell??...)

What a racist crap. The colonialists used to try and argue their exploitation in exactly the same way. Oh, we won't pay the men, they just spend it on drink and gambling.

The feminists and environmentalists have been in bed with the colonialists way too long, and it still shows.

I saw it. One of the interesting points made was that the Bush Administration didn't work for "democratization" but "occupation" instead. The whole PNAC plan was silly to begin with. It's like War Dog saying we're not giving the War Dog Failure Plan enough time to succeed.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at November 19, 2006 1:19 PM

Somehow the fact that Dubya is the least bright president slipped by them. Or that the invasion was illegal.

I think especially David From looked very nervous. With the Democrats in the House and Senate, they must be very worried about going to prison. :)

Does anyone know when the illegal wiretapping authorization goes before Congress?

Bridge for sale

(Listening to Peter Collins...)

Notice how quickly "Islam in Europe" turned into "Europe as a breeding ground for Islamic fundmanentalists".

Van Gogh was a grade A asshole anyway. Which is why me actually made 'Desire' or whatever it was called, with Ayaan Hirshi Ali.

He even pissed off his Jewish friends.

Hirshi Ali is a selfpromoting media hound. First she joined to socialist party, then the conservative party. She kept portraying herself as a Somali refugee, when in fact she is from a very well to do Kenyan family. Etc.

Moroccan folk have issues of their own. The fact that for much of the time, their country served as a brothel for British and French troops, and that much of what we know in the West about Arabic culture is basically brothel culture (belly dancing, hash smoking, etc.). It doesn't exactly help.

So if van Gogh starts filming naked women with texts from the koran written on them, who is supposed to be provoked by this? What form is the reaction to provocation supposed to take? And if literally one in a million takes up the challenge and kills him, is this supposed to say something about the remaining million?

Just a few thoughts.

Just a few thoughts.

Posted by: I at November 19, 2006 1:51 PM

I think the root of misunderstanding comes from our different religious beliefs, and the myths in our cultures. We pit one belief system against another, and expect peace and harmony. One thing about the human race is its ability to repeat the same old song over and over. Maybe we will all die out of boredom.

Remember all the heat Jane Fonda got from sitting on a VC anti-aircraft gun? Well take a look at the Chimp in Chief grinning in front of a statue of Ho Chi Ming.

Read some of the comments -- especially the "Secession Letter from California"

This is a classic --

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/so_vietnam_war_.html?lid=rss_container&lpos=kansas_4_580771

Posted by: DemonDuck at November 19, 2006 2:06 PM

where's Robert McNamara? Isn't he the one who should be telling Bush that Vietnam was a mistake and the protestors were right?