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February 16, 2006

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John Edwards, 2004 Democratic Vice-Presidential nominee and former Senator from North Carolina, on his work fighting poverty and his involvement with UNITE HERE's "Hotel Workers Rising" tour to raise awareness about the struggles of America's hotel workers.

Alex Gibney, director of the Oscar-nominated documentary "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room."

Atrios of the blog Eschaton.

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LOS ANGELES - A videotape showing Kid Rock and former Creed frontman Scott Stapp engaging in explicit sexual activity with four female fans on a tour bus has been acquired by California company Red Light District, the distributor of the notorious 2004 Paris Hilton sex tape “One Night in Paris.”

The company has launched a 40-second preview clip of the 45-minute tape at the Web sites KidRockSexTape.com and ScottStappSexTape.com and says it plans to release the entire video at some point this year.

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at February 16, 2006 9:58 PM

As War Dog says, it the outcome that has meaning.

All the rest is bullshit.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2006 09:44 PM

Well, War Dog is wrong. Outcomes are, by definition, completely subjective. The phrase: "the end does not justify the means" is not some cliche. Its a strong and easily supported law of philosophy, theology and politics. There is no event, nor outcome whose effects to not resonate well past its completion. To pick an artificial point in time and deem it the moment of outcome is foolish. The only rational course of action is to make everything you do consistent with strong positive values. To do what is intuitively and obviously the right thing. In this way, the aggregate of positive actions, manifests itself as a better more civilized reality.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 9:58 PM

That was a rather sloppy ending....

Like an abruptly shot ending because the test audience didn't like it....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 9:58 PM

Link

good, decent kristian man... Scotty...

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at February 16, 2006 9:59 PM

WASHINGTON, Feb 16 (Reuters) - The U.S. government should urgently review the security implications of a $6.8 billion deal granting a Dubai-based company management over key ports including New York, U.S. lawmakers said on Thursday, citing terrorism concerns.

http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-02-16T214038Z_01_N16375949_RTRIDST_0_SECURITY-USA-DUBAI.XML

UN Calls on U.S. to Shut Down Guantanamo Bay Prison (Update3)

Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. should close its anti- terrorism prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, immediately and try all of the detainees or release them, the United Nations said today in a report. The Bush administration rejected the idea.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aHtN2p8ylEsI&refer=us

Guantanamo Bay-ra (sung to the tune of the folk song "Guantanamera")

Guantanamo Bay-ra

U.N. say to close Guantanamo Bay-ra

Guantanamo Bay-ra !!!

skanky la Gitmo !!!

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U.N. say to close Guantanamo Bay-ra

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Posted by: LeeP at February 16, 2006 9:59 PM

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at February 16, 2006 09:58 PM

Glad Kid Rock is growing as an artist, and isn't indulging in any kind of idiotic, celebrity behaviour....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 10:00 PM

Well, War Dog is wrong.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 09:58 PM

---------------------------------------------

STOP THE PRESSES!

We have a new lead above the fold!

Posted by: Crank "This Just In..." Bait at February 16, 2006 10:01 PM

Jesus,slowing his heartrate and inducing coma on purpose,survives the crucifiction.He allows himself to be crucified cause he wants to show people than you can meditate,theyll do this to him and hell get up,but he doesnt relize the movement hed start would be as big as it was or that the Romans would take his legend and go,"This is good,a good story.We can market this.Lots of good advertising.Well stop cricifying people,and then sell little crosses in building we biuld for this guy whos faith no house could possibly hold.Good market.Hopeless theological people.Huge demographic.And,instead of crucifixes,which we use once and throw away,we got this new thing called a rack,where we stretch you until your either dead ,or Christian.The doesnt want to die on the rack crowd,huge demographic,big market in most regions.".But then Jesus wakes up after hes buried alive,walks around tells everybody "see,look at me dont fear death" and disapears never to be seen from again,probably marries and runs off with Mary Magdalene.

Posted by: daniel at February 16, 2006 10:01 PM

Next time Dick Cheney is at one of those big fancy $20,000 per plate Republican dinners, I wonder if people will think twice before they ask him to, "Please Pass the Pepper", haha!!!

Posted by: LeeP at February 16, 2006 10:01 PM

Brokeback Huntin'

Posted by: I at February 16, 2006 09:49 PM

LOL :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 09:50 PM

Harry, when this thing gets over us, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, we're dead. So I guess it's you or me. BOOM!

Posted by: I at February 16, 2006 10:01 PM

Peace and Peaches Ya'll !!!!

Posted by: LeeP at February 16, 2006 10:02 PM

Oh beautiful for spacious skies where monied classes flyyyyyy


For toppless mountains majesty


And higher strip-mall pie!


America, America, who did this shit to theee?


It must have been a chimp who grins, and his keeper, Dick Cheney!

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 10:02 PM

Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" Nancy Sinatra

http://www.vanbergenbravenboer.nl/NancySinatra--MyBabyShotMeDown).MP3

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

Was it just me, or did Janeane mention something about being drunk last night?

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

... is that you think citing Cheney's fuck-up is demagoguery and I don't.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 09:48 PM

In what way does citing Cheney's fuck up qualify as "moral conviction"? How does it "cut thru the din of specious accusation"?

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

I said that if Cheney accepted responsibility for the hunting accident, that (for me, at least) it would be over as an issue. Now never mind the way he did it, and in what forum, he accepted responsibility. Done.

Many more important things to think about.

Like him saying he's the power to declassify.

That's ridiculous.

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

Peace and Peaches :) I love it! Hi LeeP

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:04 PM

Oh beautiful for spacious skies where monied classes flyyyyyy

For toppless mountains majesty

And higher strip-mall pie!

America, America, who did this shit to theee?

It must have been a chimp who grins, and his keeper, Dick Cheney!

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 10:02 PM

BAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:05 PM

Glad Kid Rock is growing as an artist, and isn't indulging in any kind of idiotic, celebrity behaviour....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 10:00 PM

_______________

Hey, look on the bright side.

At least Kid Rock is growing and deflating as a celebrity by growing and deflating as a performance art pornographer.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:05 PM

So move a couple tick tocks down the road faith has exploded into at least two major Crusades,The Chinese probably think we are big assholes by now and are preparing in case we ever try triy shit in their homeland for about 6000 years.Suddenly, people like Dracula are running around.Dracula,in defeat,fleeing the Ottoman Empire back to his castle,earns his reputation as Vlad the Impaler with his forest of bodies stratagy based off his normal favorite method for dispatching his foes,escapes assasination or rises from the grave,like Jesus.Now Dracula after this, becomes a myth that suggest if any possibility of truth exhist inside of myths,or this myth,then sufferes from a genetic disorder that he passes downcauseing memebers of his bloodline to develope a shadow organ in his stomach that allows raw blood to be processed into raw nutrients and produces symptoms of vampirism.Then,and heres where Im speculating,his family remminents migrate to America and their family eventually steals the presidency in 2000 and puts the newest Dracula Tempest in the whithouse as the sitting president George Bush.And the family continues starting wars to finance its global blood harvesting operation.Executing people,wars,planes that were suppose to fly into the World trade center maybe being cargo planes,either way bodies disapear...Greatest Xfile ever.Thousands of bodies this family has to disapear every year just to satisfy its genetic disorder provoked lust for blood.I,I think its plausable if not likely.

Posted by: daniel at February 16, 2006 10:06 PM

GD there's a piece of cheney in my heart and I gotta live with it

Psychological scare tissue...

Posted by: He Shot Me at February 16, 2006 10:08 PM

If Cheney hits someone with a golf ball he should not be vice president..

If Cheney runs into to someone skiing he should not be president of the senate.

If cheney hits the catcher with his bat he is unfit to offer economic advice..

If Cheney spikes the second baseman he knows nothing about terrorism.

If cheney runs into another bicycler he is not fit for political office.

If cheney hooks someone with a fishing lure he should resign..

If Cheney hits his partner in the back of the head in a tennis match he should not be allowed to talk to foreign visitors..

If Cheney does not slow the boat while his skier is on the outside turn and rolls him the Cheney should not be allowed to run for office..

If Cheney drops his bowling ball on someone toe he can never enter the Whitehouse again..

Is there any sport you can not screw up playin..??

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 10:08 PM

MMMMMMMMMMM George Clooney....drool..

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 09:56 PM

I'm with you Darlene - been admiring him since he was on "Facts of Life!"

Posted by: Gypsy at February 16, 2006 10:09 PM

Is there any sport you can not screw up playin..??

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 10:08 PM

If your sport is killing animals and you injure a human that is a screw up.

Its rocket science I know but its law and order and the civilized western countries and whatnot.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 16, 2006 10:10 PM

When people try to claim that the ends justify the means, they do so without cosnideration of the right they give others to whatever they want, at least to THEM.


If the ends of me being happy is justified by cutting certain people up into tiny pieces and feeding them to fish, then my actions are justified. My happiness is VERY important to me.

In all fairness, it has to be reciprocal for me, so that means I can only destroy the idiots stupid enough to give me permission by asserting that ends justify means.

Every action is an end unto itself, with real, scientificly measurable, socially consequential results (hence legal) ramifications. Try telling the police that you burned up the baby to save its soul from Satan. Try telling it to a judge and jury.

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 10:10 PM

No WAY! Was he on the "Facts of Life!" :O

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:10 PM

So George Bush is the living decendent of Dacula.Ill keep reserching,but until I see evidence to the contrary,I believe that the history would suggest that conclusively.Now we just need a video of him gorging on some poor shmoes blood and its a lock.

Posted by: daniel at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

Many more important things to think about.

Like him saying he's the power to declassify.

That's ridiculous.

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

----------------------------------------------

I agree that there are degrees of importance but I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

"I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun." —George W. Bush, third presidential debate, St. Louis, Missouri, Oct. 18, 2000

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

Does it take NASA to figure out at what range it takes bee bees to penetrate thru a vest into the body cavity?

5 - 10 feet makes more sense.

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:12 PM

I believe that the history would suggest that conclusively.Now we just need a video of him gorging on some poor shmoes blood and its a lock.

Posted by: daniel at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

LMAO Um what cha smokin?

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:12 PM

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:05 PM

You're right....and Kid Rock's behaviour is consistent with his Republican leanings....

I believe he performed or was associated in some way with a Bush fundraiser/gathering....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 10:14 PM

I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow.

I find this rather scary too Cranky.

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:14 PM

You shouldn't cop out to your dad, like that Janeane.

well, folks...as jew Seder would say...(I'm a Gentile like David Cross)...

...that actually went remarkably well.

Considering how the day's news went...I was positive Janeane would have been flippin' shit.

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 10:15 PM

In what way does citing Cheney's fuck up qualify as "moral conviction"? How does it "cut thru the din of specious accusation"?

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:03 PM

_____________

You are now (surprise!) conflating two separate issues.

(And this from a person who has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to either pay attention or characterize someone's point accurately. I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!)

One point was about Dick Cheney and disputing w/you about whether it was "demagogic" to cite a man as reckless who shoots his own friend in the fucking face at thirty paces.

That was one point.

A second was a dispute w/you about the limitations (not the value, pay attention now, the limitations) of "reason", and how successful leaders in the past, like MLK, have surmounted this difficulty by coupling "reason" w/moral conviction.

I am not saying the Cheney shooting story is the be-all end-all, nor am I saying it is representative of "moral conviction".

You are saying that. B/c you don't pay attention.

What I *am* saying is that the Cheney shooting story is indicative and emblematic about a great many things that are disastrously wrong w/the Bush Administration's "shoot first, make excuses later" "leadership" and that there is no compromise w/principle in saying so openly.

The "reason" dispute is just one of many things I disagree w/you about.

Now go back and clean up the hypocritical mess you created by refusing to piss on burning Cheney.

Or at least explain how this fits in w/your "principled" view of "demagoguery".

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:15 PM

I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow.

I find this rather scary too Cranky.

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:14 PM

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it." —George W. Bush, July 27, 2001

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:16 PM

Good one dear leader :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:17 PM

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:10 PM

Very young and very cute, of course. He's aging well, and his work keeps getting bolder and better.

Posted by: Gypsy at February 16, 2006 10:17 PM

Who cares? Kid Rock is over. He got pubes, isn't a kid, and kinda never rocked. He's done. Dried up, jerked, and packaged for resale at the Snarkymart.


The Shrub twins got him for the innaugeral youth ball, until Chimpy found out that KR had written a couple songs about him and his family, including one in which he calls Shub's mother a whore.

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 10:18 PM

his work keeps getting bolder and better.

Agreed....sigh. :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:18 PM

I agree that there are degrees of importance but I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

Clearly not a priveledge anyone is due. Nor is holding stake in a company that benefits from your political activities, lying to congress and the American people, holding secret meetings and not disclosing so much as the topics discussed, advocating war over social service and generally engaging in corrupt politics.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:18 PM

Damage control for Cheney's profile

They don't want it to stick he's an aloof professional liar

Who lied to the president about who shot whom when while drunk

The press in now being Swift boated for re-creating the crime sceen and events that lead up to this tragic shooting

The press can't get the story they never offered for 24 hours and then it was a pack of lies

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:19 PM

I think having John's words go on the air...helped.

As far as Celts and iron. I'm having some difficulty understanding what point exactly...she is making.

Somebody gettin' stabbed. Hatred. Anger and Aggression.

Disdain for white culture or guilt...I really don't know.

She's not a bad person. Has a brilliant sense of humor. Just a little edgy lately...I think.

She travels a lot. Probably deals with a lot of looks. So it's up to us to throw good fuzzies her way, right?

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 10:20 PM

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:15 PM

So, on the one hand, you say that rebuking Cheney is not moral conviction. And on the other hand, you say that moral conviction is an important component of change.

So, why rebuke Cheney again? If it serves no purpose? Hmmm ... sounds like masturbation.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

What I *am* saying is that the Cheney shooting story is indicative and emblematic about a great many things that are disastrously wrong w/the Bush Administration's "shoot first, make excuses later" "leadership"...

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:15 PM

--------------------------------------------

Exactly this point was made by a crusty, old, conservative Arkie who called into a local radio program today, including the "shoot first, ask questions later" line.

'Course, he made his point using a thick, slow, heavily-accented dialect.

...sort of a dr wet dream all the way around.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

Can't believe they aren't covering this Sheriffs office in more detail,

Totally incompetent fukups

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:24 PM

Clearly not a priveledge anyone is due. Nor is holding stake in a company that benefits from your political activities, lying to congress and the American people, holding secret meetings and not disclosing so much as the topics discussed, advocating war over social service and generally engaging in corrupt politics.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:18 PM

---------------------------------------------

Well...there's that, too.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:26 PM

I agree that there are degrees of importance but I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:11 PM

_____________

"We'll meet on schedule, dammit, and on 'my' schedule" is an inviolable rule in the Bush White House.

Little-known fact:

When Osama bin Forgotten was holed up and cornered there in Tora Bora, know how he slipped the noose from our wily and fearless protector George W. Bush?

Some naively think it's b/c Bush didn't send troops when he could have, but that ain't the reason.

No, what really happent was this:

Osama bin Forgotten made an *appointment* to meet w/Bush himself personally and surrender the next day at 4.

Bush, just imagining the FOX News accolades that would befall him, confidently agreed to the meeting.

(I mean, who ditches a scheduled meeting, right? Not even terrorists are *that* barbaric.)

But, then -- wait for it -- Osama didn't show!

Now that's one enemy knowing another.

Osama bin Forgotten trained in Bush-style psy-ops.

Wow. Who knew?

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:27 PM

If I was Whittington I'd be pissed

Who ordered the press off the Sherrifs office

Not one how's it going report CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC

We really would have seen the inept handling of this investigation

Incompetence

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:28 PM

Now go back and clean up the hypocritical mess you created by refusing to piss on burning Cheney.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:15 PM

There is no mess to clean. I have an opinion of him, based on his deeds. It is only rational to conclude that he is beneath contempt. But I would never advocate to use the fact that he drinks the blood of small boys as a political tool to advance my agenda. Because thats what cynical evil bastards do.

Besides, there is no mess to clean if I don't piss.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:28 PM

Let's see here. Yea...happy thoughts. I try to make constructive criticism for her, y'know. She's something else. (She should visit my ship when she wants experience something different than sound stages.)

On my end, I broke at the wah wah pedal tonight.

Just not having much luck.

It's a tone vacuum.

They are notorious.

It sucks my lows right out the wire. I tried everything. Changed guitars...

thre my compression in front of it. tried two different overdrives.

Set my amp one way to the next.

I thought I actually had it at one point, but it fizzled for some reason.

Here's my effect chain.

Optical Compressor - Wah - Overdrive - Noise gate

I'm not quite sure how these compressors/mnoise gates work.

I had the Wah up front at first. It's got a built in boost too.

I haven't exercised quite like that in awhile.

I'm damp from sweat. Kinda warm today...here in Ohio. Humidity is high.


Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 10:29 PM

Allies in Action:

In cooperation with PFAW, MoveOn.org is holding Constitution Vigils on February 22 to bear witness to the President's law breaking.

Findavigilnearyouorhostoneyourself

Posted by: catharine at February 16, 2006 10:29 PM

Dr. Strangelove -

Major Kong: "Well, boys, I reckon this is it. Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Russkies"

http://www.tigersweat.com/movies/strange/slove03.wav

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:30 PM

Good one dear leader :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:17 PM

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." —George W. Bush, speaking at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:32 PM

...sort of a dr wet dream all the way around.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

he seems to be awash in ejaculate

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:32 PM

Findavigilnearyouorhostoneyourself

Posted by: catharine at February 16, 2006 10:29 PM

Thanks Cat :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 16, 2006 10:32 PM

But, then -- wait for it -- Osama didn't show!

Now that's one enemy knowing another.

Osama bin Forgotten trained in Bush-style psy-ops.

Wow. Who knew?

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:27 PM

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:33 PM

Findavigilnearyouorhostoneyourself

Posted by: catharine at February 16, 2006 10:29 PM

when I first read that link, I thought it said:

Findavirginnearyouorhostoneyourself

dr must be getting to me.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:34 PM

Platoon

Barnes: "Yo. Saddle up. Lock and load."

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/platoon/plat03.wav

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

I wonder what a real Sherriff has to say about how these country bupkins handled this.

At least they could interview that Sherriff from DC who caught the sniper.

What the hell is this crap.

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

Wow.

Lots of errors in that last one. Let's fix that. Add some things too.

--------------------------------------------------

Let's see here. Yea...happy thoughts. I try to make constructive criticism...for her show, y'know. I guess I'm a blog assistant or something. She's something else. (She should visit my ship, when she wants to experience something different than her sound stage.)

On my end, I broke out the wah wah pedal tonight.

Just not having much luck there.

It's a tone vacuum.

They are notorious.

It sucks my lows right out the wire. I tried everything. Changed guitars...

Threw my compression in front of it. Tried two different overdrives.

Set my amp one way to the next. Just about changed every variable.

I think my Wah may be junk.

I thought I actually had it at one point, but it fizzled for some reason.

Here's my effect chain.

Optical Compressor - Wah - Overdrive - Noise gate

I'm not quite sure how these compressor/noise gate stomp boxes exactly work. They do add a lot of nuance. I'm just in a learning curve stage right now.

I had the Wah up front at first. It's got a built in boost too.

I haven't exercised quite like that in awhile.

I'm damp from sweat. Kinda warm today...here in Ohio. Humidity is high.


Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

So, on the one hand, you say that rebuking Cheney is not moral conviction. And on the other hand, you say that moral conviction is an important component of change.

So, why rebuke Cheney again? If it serves no purpose? Hmmm ... sounds like masturbation.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

________________

I'm speaking in degrees here. And again, you are conflating two areas of dispute and making stupid assumptions, then accusing me of points that don't pertain.

I'm *not* saying the Cheney story lacks moral conviction, but I am saying that it is not tantamount to MLK-style moral conviction.

I'm *also* saying the Cheney story is indicative and emblematic of what's wrong w/Bush-style leadership.

But you, "duh", just wanna engage in "masturbatory" point-scoring.

So, in honor of Dick Cheney, how about you go fuck yourself and then everyone's happy, hmm?

I tire of your willful stupidity. It's like talking to War Dog.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

So, why rebuke Cheney again? If it serves no purpose? Hmmm ... sounds like masturbation.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

"Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of (Dr. Seuss's) 'Hop on Pop.'" —George W. Bush, in a speech about childhood education, Washington, D.C., April 2, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

Platoon:

Taylor: "I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves and the enemy was in us."

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/platoon/plat17.wav

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:37 PM

...sort of a dr wet dream all the way around.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:23 PM

he seems to be awash in ejaculate

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:32 PM

I'm not seeing the problem............. :)

Posted by: ABS at February 16, 2006 10:38 PM

Please join me in asking Jamie and Adam to bust the myth of penetrating a heart from the right side with birdshot at 30 feet. Write Mythbusters!

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 10:39 PM

C'mon Dave

Gimme a break

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 10:41 PM

Let's see here...

Post-Brief

Well, the Edwards interview was interesting.

I know he's concerned about minimum wage...but apparently he's now heavily involved with union activism?

He might go the way of the professional lobbist. He is a lwayer. I don't know.

Interesting where he's pouring his energies these days though. I like John Edwards, or at least have no reason not too.

And the way campaigns go any more...maybe it is about the lesser of two evils...or at least the only southern politician I know who...happens to say all the right things lately.

IMHO

More post brief...

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 10:42 PM

Cool Hand Luke:

Captain: "What we've got here is failure to communicate."

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/luke/luke18.wav

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:42 PM

I tire of your willful stupidity. It's like talking to War Dog.


Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

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I was not going to say anything..

But since you tossed my name in..

I noticed your debate technique to be one I have seen you use many time before..

Personal Attack / Defend / issue attack / defend...

Is your use of the personal attack used to prop up a weak issue..

Or is it to just fill space on the page..

Looks to me like you have been running this style into the ground..

But I mean this in a good way..!!!!

lol

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 10:44 PM

"I tire of your willful stupidity. It's like talking to War Dog.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM"


"Most people who talk to dogs are just dog lovers; people who converse with them are generally insane." -- John Iceknife

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 16, 2006 10:45 PM

And i ask the fuking sheriffs office who gets screwed here

What does your oath of office say

The Sheriffs office will not investigate shootings on privat property

Is that it,

Folks this is totally unaccceptable, no, no, no this is bullshit


GDAMMIT

Posted by: CSI at February 16, 2006 10:45 PM

There is no mess to clean.

I have an opinion of him, based on his deeds. It is only rational to conclude that he is beneath contempt.

But I would never advocate to use the fact that he drinks the blood of small boys as a political tool to advance my agenda.

Because thats what cynical evil bastards do.

Besides, there is no mess to clean if I don't piss.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:28 PM

_____________

Oh, so "evil cynical bastards" say what they think publicly but "principled, rational" guys like "duh" just think it privately and don't say nothin'?

B/c politically, character don't count, right?

All "principled, rational" nitwits, like duh, like duh, know that a person can be beneath contempt but this insight has no bearing whatsoever politically, is that it?

Is that your latest nitwit point?

Christ, what a fucking ninny you are, duh.

And a slavering hypocrite.

And yes, you do piss.

You piss yourself most every time you post.

You are truly piss-burnt.

Like, duh.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:46 PM

It's like talking to War Dog.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:35 PM

Thats your first problem. Talking to wardog is like a beach ball .... its pointless.

I understand your concept that hillbilly fuckers who think Dick is the 2nd coming of Christ, will have their opinion of him knocked down a peg by this incident. And I am satisfied that you get my point. That the whole Dick story is of less priority than real society changing important events (which are ignored on a daily basis).

As far as point scoring is concerned, I found your dialog to be abusive, long winded and generally uninteresting. So, I will likely not engage you again.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:46 PM

Is your use of the personal attack used to prop up a weak issue..

Or is it to just fill space on the page..

Looks to me like you have been running this style into the ground..

But I mean this in a good way..!!!!

lol


Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 10:44 PM

"I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging." —George W. Bush, at the dedication of his portrait, Austin, Texas, Jan. 4, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:47 PM

He wanted her tonight

And it was now or never

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 10:47 PM

In Cold Blood:

Perry Smith: "I thought Mr. Clutter was a very nice gentleman. I thought so right up to the time I cut his throat."

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/incold/cold09.wav

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:48 PM

As far as point scoring is concerned, I found your dialog to be abusive, long winded and generally uninteresting. So, I will likely not engage you again.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:46 PM

=================================================================

A female..

duh is a female?

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 10:49 PM

Neocons are cultists. You either have to deprogram them, or kill them. Discussion is pointless.

There's a goddamn REASON this administration has such close ties to the moonies and scientology. They shouldn't be allowed to run around in public. Fix 'em, or kill 'em. That's all.

Posted by: JIK at February 16, 2006 06:30 PM


************************************************************************

that sez it all

Posted by: air-ono at February 16, 2006 10:49 PM

Kill em.

Old way..

Love them.


New way..

Posted by: Phartz at February 16, 2006 10:50 PM

Personal Attack / Defend / issue attack / defend...

Is your use of the personal attack used to prop up a weak issue..

Or is it to just fill space on the page..

Looks to me like you have been running this style into the ground..

But I mean this in a good way..!!!!

lol

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 10:44 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

sounds like the karl rove school of debate.....

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at February 16, 2006 10:50 PM

A female..

duh is a female?

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 10:49 PM

"This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." —George W. Bush, as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:50 PM

Look at Baghdad, look at New Orleans. This is the Bushworld Landscape -- a desolation with no hope of restoration echoing the Romans salting of Carthage.

Look at Cheney's canned "hunts". This is the class-based DECADENCE of the NeoCon American Empire -- recreating the drunken Roman depravity of dining on SONGBIRDS in a morally decaying Roman Empire.

Look at the Bush Team love of torture, and you see the seizing of an uncontrolled right to relive the Roman Coliseum bloodlust.

Look at Cheney's claim that he has the right to the use of the Executive Order, and there, across the millenia, is the rotting of the Roman Republic.

Posted by: nora at February 16, 2006 10:51 PM

"I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging." —George W. Bush, at the dedication of his portrait, Austin, Texas, Jan. 4, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:47 PM

LOL!

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:52 PM

As far as point scoring is concerned, I found your dialog to be abusive, long winded and generally uninteresting. So, I will likely not engage you again.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:46 PM

_____________

I weep for my loss.

How will I ever find the courage to go on?

And self-righteous insular prigs like duh are so hard to come by, too.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 10:52 PM

Hey man

That suit is you

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 10:53 PM

No. 102-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 05, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Jesse M. Zamora, 22, of Las Cruces, N.M., died in Bayji, Iraq, on Feb. 3, when an improvised explosive device detonated near his HMMWV. Zamora was assigned to the Army's 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.

No. 101-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 05, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Sgt. 1st Class Lance S. Cornett, 33, of London, Ky., died in the vicinity of Ar Ramadi, Iraq, on Feb. 3, of injuries sustained earlier that day while engaging enemy forces. Cornett was assigned to the U.S. Army Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, N.C.

No. 100-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 03, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Walter B. Howard, II, 35, of Rochester, Mich., died in Balad, Iraq, on Feb. 2, of injuries sustained earlier that day in Ashraf, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near his M1 Abrams tank. Howard was assigned to the Army's 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.

No. 099-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 03, DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Pfc. Scott A. Messer, 26, of Ashland, Ky., died in Ashraf, Iraq, on Feb. 2, when his HMMWV accidentally rolled over during convoy operations. Messer was assigned to the Army's 1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky. The incident is under investigation.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:55 PM

eya Mugzilla!

here you are

welcome to the bloggie

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 16, 2006 10:55 PM

Posted by: nora at February 16, 2006 10:51 PM

Not to be a downer ... but its not like we can say we didn't see it coming.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

dr,

Pay no heed to Limbaugh fan. He abandoned the no-ad hominem high ground long ago.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

"I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging." —George W. Bush, at the dedication of his portrait, Austin, Texas, Jan. 4, 2002

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:47 PM

LOL!

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 10:52 PM

"Just remember it's the birds that's supposed to suffer, not the hunter." —George W. Bush, advising quail hunter and New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, Roswell, N.M., Jan. 22, 2004

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

No. 119-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 08, 2006 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties The Department of Defense announced today the death of two Marines who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Killed were:

Cpl. Orville Gerena, 21, of Virginia Beach, Va.

Lance Cpl. David S. Parr, 22, of Benson, N.C.

Both Marines died Feb. 6 from an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations against enemy forces in Hit, Iraq. They were assigned to Battalion Landing Team, 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

No. 113-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 07, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Sergio A. Mercedes Saez, 23, of New York, N.Y., died in Baghdad, Iraq on Feb. 5, when the HMMWV in which he was riding accidentally rolled over into a canal. Mercedes Saez was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky. The incident is under investigation.

No. 112-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 07, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualties The Department of Defense announced today the death of two soldiers who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. They died in Al Husayniyah, Iraq on Feb. 5, when an improvised explosive device detonated near their Stryker Engineer Squad Vehicle. Both soldiers were assigned to the 562nd Engineer Company, 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, Fort Wainwright, Alaska. Killed were:

Staff Sgt. Christopher R. Morningstar, 27, of San Antonio, Texas.

Sgt. Jeremiah J. Boehmer, 22, of Parkston, S.D.

No. 109-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 06, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. William S. Hayes III, 23, of St. Tammany, La., died in Baghdad, Iraq, on Feb. 5, of a non-combat related injury. Hayes was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Hood, Texas. The incident is under investigation.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

Hey man

That suit is you

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 10:53 PM

DLRbot don't you have a radio show to do? Heard you're in, what, 7 markets now?

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

No. 125-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 09, 2006 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties The Department of Defense announced today the death of three Marines who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Cpl. Brandon S. Schuck, 21, of Safford, Ariz., died Feb. 6 from an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations against enemy forces in Baghdadi, Iraq. He was assigned to the 8th Engineer Support Battalion, 2nd Marine Logistics Group, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Pfc. Jacob D. Spann, 21, of Columbus, Ohio, died Feb. 6 from wounds sustained as a result of an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations against enemy forces in Hit, Iraq. He was assigned to Battalion Landing Team 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Lance Cpl. Steven L. Phillips, 27, of Chesapeake, Va., died Feb. 7 from a non-hostile vehicle accident while conducting combat operations against enemy forces near Al Qaim, Iraq. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

The accident is under investigation.

No. 120-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 08, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Patrick W. Herried, 29, of Sioux Falls, S.D., died in Rawah, Iraq, on Feb. 6, when an improvised explosive device detonated near his Stryker military vehicle during patrol operations. Herried was assigned to the Army's 4th Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment, 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, Fort Wainwright, Alaska.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:57 PM

s.j.

skype or no skype

Posted by: air-ono at February 16, 2006 10:58 PM

No. 130-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 10, 2006 DoD Identifies Marine Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. Pfc. Matthew L. Bertolino, 20, of Hampstead, N.H., died Feb. 9, when the vehicle he was traveling in was involved in a rollover while operating as part of a combat patrol near Jalalabad, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. The accident is currently under investigation.

No. 128-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 09, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Allen D. Kokesh Jr., 21, of Yankton, S. D., died at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas, on Feb. 7 of injuries sustained in Baghdad, Iraq, on Dec. 4 when an improvised explosive device detonated near his HMMWV. Kokesh was assigned to the Army National Guard's 1st Battalion, 147th Field Artillery, Yankton, S. D.

No. 127-06 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb 09, 2006 DoD Identifies Army Casualty The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. Spc. Roberto L. Martinez Salazar, 21, of Long Beach, Calif., died in Mosul, Iraq on Feb. 4, when an improvised explosive device detonated near his up-armored HMMWV during patrol operations. Martinez Salazar was assigned to Company A, 14th Engineer Battalion, 555th Maneuver Enhancement Brigade, Fort Lewis, Wash.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 10:59 PM

DLRbot don't you have a radio show to do? Heard you're in, what, 7 markets now?

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM


Better look out now though

Dave's got something for you

Tell ya what it is

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 11:01 PM

"I think war is a dangerous place." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

"The image of him falling is something I'll never ever be able to get out of my mind.". VP Dick Cheney.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

s.j.

skype or stick it up ur pipe

Posted by: air-ono at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole.

Is Stop Diggin...

Man that is an old one..

But folks some folks never did learn it..

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57% say Cheney Accident is a non-issue
By: PoliticalNut · Section: Diaries

According to Rassmussen Reports 27% of Americans believe that the hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President.

Twice as many, 57%, say it was "just one of those very embarrassing things that happens to all of us."


Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

dr,

Pay no heed to Limbaugh fan. He abandoned the no-ad hominem high ground long ago.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

_____________

Yes, I noticed.

It's why he no longer deserves respect nor restraint.

War Dog reserves the right to call people here "leftist looneys" and "aiders of al Qaeda", but somehow he can't abide when someone describes him as being willfully stupid.

Imagine!

War Dog has become unhinged and is now just a full-time propagandist.

He doesn't even try to argue any more.

Just takes the Limbaugh Letter and mails it in.

As for me, I will admit I try to be fair, but I will also confess that I lose patience quickly w/persons who are not acting in good faith and deliberately distort what you said to try to score some cheap rhetorician's points.

You wanna talk over an issue, say your piece and defend it, and even if I disagree, I ain't gonna start name-calling.

But refuse to acknowledge self-evident facts or distort what is said or done to suit your purpose, then I get irritated.

It damn sure don't me a good person, and I know it.

But it is what it is.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

"The image of him falling is something I'll never ever be able to get out of my mind.". VP Dick Cheney.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

"One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:04 PM

Tell ya what it is

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 11:01 PM

NO, no, no, no...don't take it off, don't take it off - leave it on, leave it on

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:06 PM


"Just remember it's the birds that's supposed to suffer, not the hunter." —George W. Bush, advising quail hunter and New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, Roswell, N.M., Jan. 22, 2004

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 10:56 PM

these quotes are pure gold!

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 11:06 PM

War Dog reserves the right to call people here "leftist looneys" and "aiders of al Qaeda", but somehow he can't abide when someone describes him as being willfully stupid.

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I only point you use that with everyone now..

Bad habit..

Auto defense..

Who knows..

But you just did it again..

Oh well..

Perhaps it is not me after all..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 11:06 PM

I like the way the line runs up the back of the stockings

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:07 PM

The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole.

Is Stop Diggin...

Man that is an old one..

But folks some folks never did learn it..

===========================================================================

57% say Cheney Accident is a non-issue By: PoliticalNut · Section: Diaries

According to Rassmussen Reports 27% of Americans believe that the hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President.

Twice as many, 57%, say it was "just one of those very embarrassing things that happens to all of us."

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

"There's no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead." —George W. Bush, May 11, 2001

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:07 PM

I only point you use that with everyone now..

Bad habit..

Auto defense..

Who knows..

But you just did it again..

Oh well..

Perhaps it is not me after all..

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:06 PM

____________

Perhaps not.

Is it as bad of a habit as war-mongering?

Is it as bad that?

Or -- [gasp! swallowing hard and bracing for the bitter reality] -- or is it worse?

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 11:09 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 16, 2006 10:55 PM

SJ, check your email....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

I like the way the line runs up the back of the stockings

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:07 PM


Ain't talkin' 'bout love

My love is rotten to the core

Ain't gonna talk about love

Just like I told you before! Before! Uh, before!

Uh, before! Before!

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

Twice as many, 57%, say it was "just one of those very embarrassing things that happens to all of us."

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

I've accidently shot a few people and I personally know many other people who have also shot others accidently. It's just one of those unfortunate things that happen to all of us from time to time.

Posted by: Perry Smith at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

I was discussing distribution algorithm at work today, and we wanted to come up with a good name for a tightly bounded stochastic equation to test a feedback filter.

We called it the "Cheney Pattern".

hahahahaha!!

[um]

well, we thought it was pretty funny at the time.

I guess you had to be there.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!!!! I WANT SOME TOO!!! oh yeah

EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!!! HOW 'BOUT YOU!!!!!

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:11 PM

I've accidently shot a few people and I personally know many other people who have also shot others accidently. It's just one of those unfortunate things that happen to all of us from time to time.

Posted by: Perry Smith at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

I agree...

Posted by: Hannibal Lechter at February 16, 2006 11:11 PM

I've accidently shot a few people and I personally know many other people who have also shot others accidently. It's just one of those unfortunate things that happen to all of us from time to time.

Posted by: Perry Smith at February 16, 2006 11:10 PM

ha ha

this is so funny. Welcome to 'merica.

I can't believe we are this stupid.

Should have guessed. Its no wonder we attacked
the wrong country

no wmd in iraq, but great torture opportunities!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 16, 2006 11:12 PM

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:11 PM

Ah yeah, beautiful girl

Posted by: VHBot at February 16, 2006 11:12 PM

Is it as bad of a habit as war-mongering?

===============================================

I am still open to alternatives to war..

I just don't hear any..

I to allow for Iran to back down yet..

I say that every day..

No one remembers that..

I just predict otherwise..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 11:13 PM

I agree...

Posted by: Hannibal Lechter at February 16, 2006 11:11 PM

I once stabbed some one.

It was an accident...

I swear.

Posted by: Jack the Ripper at February 16, 2006 11:14 PM

~~~ I agree that there are degrees of importance but I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow. ~~~

I place a lot of that blame on a law officer who would accept being told to come back tomorrow. That man was simply not doing his job.


Posted by: Fishgrease at February 16, 2006 11:14 PM

I torture people all the time, and take pictures.

It happens, you know. I arrange people in naked
pyramids and before you know it, torture happens
to them.

Posted by: USA! USA! USA! at February 16, 2006 11:15 PM

Professional Lobbyist

He could give up on the thoght it would be worth it, guys. It's up to us to give him encouragement, at least to say we are on the same page, right?

Okay...

Let's see. Janeane the Republican. Lots of wisecracks tonight. Lots of dry humor, some a little post-drunkout I think...try to get some rest, guys. Call it the night at just a few. (I really don't party that much at all these days, I don't know about you. My organs are more sensitive in my middle-age.)

Don't info overload and contradict yourselves. It's easy to get swamped, I know this. And my routine is nothing like yours.

But just stick to your routines, as brisk as they are, let your producers give you talking points too. This is the way it's supposed to work. A Staff.

I hear a lot "improve" from Janeane as usual. Even Sam asked J at one point, whether there was someone implying silly notions to her...I think it was about Cheney or something...yes I know it's surreal these days reading the headlines...and Carmine got brought into it!?

Please don't do that. *sigh (2nd time I've said this.)

Also as far as the psycho-analytical vantage point...

This is your trademark, I know.

Don't be afraid to stretch out though...into the area of solutions, Janeane. Actual suggestions of concrete ideas.

What you said about Sean Penn (and there's no one here who doesn't realize the pain you face with public humiliation) makes good sense.

Common Sense

I'm sure he appreciates it, but in my own way...I figured at that point in the show I concluded again...your feminine instinct is to over-react just a touch to madly to this humiliation. I don't think violence is the real answer...but really...

Do you think there's any other way to talk to certain blokes?

In this bloody media, you have a powerful medium at your disposal...and reason is a powerful ally.

Americans probably would like to hear your analysis, but as far as solutions...I'm not quite sure there's a therapy for the body.

The head of this snake...is a collusion. A corporate cabal.

And I think your partners have risen above...wha

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:17 PM

I once stabbed some one.

It was an accident...

I swear.

Posted by: Jack the Ripper at February 16, 2006 11:14 PM

Oh wow

In the 60's, I accidentally strangled a few women.

Posted by: Albert Desalvo at February 16, 2006 11:18 PM

I am still open to alternatives to war..

I just don't hear any..

I to allow for Iran to back down yet..

I say that every day..

No one remembers that..

I just predict otherwise..

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:13 PM

"This administration is doing everything we can to end the stalemate in an efficient way. We're making the right decisions to bring the solution to an end." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. April 10, 2001

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:18 PM

Wha Club Whaaaaaaa?

And I think your partners have risen above...what bothers you in a more primitive way. This being your feminie tenacity, but also your strong reaction to abuse. You dad loves you, right?

Meaning your instinct to nurture, and that means your reaction to abuse is greater than us. Men.

Thus I think (as I try to sort this out), I tend to think it's around that time...we either ignore you.

Or.

Or step in to a true heinous situation.

No need to worry about your adversaries, while broadcasting Janeane. That's always been my advice, but I live in a small town too.

Just turn their facts against them. That's the Franken philoasophy. Pretty shallow, ain't it...but it's effective as all hell.

Passive Resistance. Truth to Power. Don't Bring a Knife To A Celtic Fight.

I can't put it any other way than that...but preparation is the key, I think. Hire somebody to help you if you can, where it becomes necessary...fill the need, right?

Improvising can lead to a combination of contradiction and sarcasm...not always so easy for your listeners to differentiate from combo move, off the bank...sincerity and seriousness...into the pocket.

But there's nothing wrong with the humor, just remember it's naturally the way you are...more than any effort too. You're not on the road, doing bits.

Which means I'd prefer to see you happy...then I know it's okay for me to laugh along. At least for me anyway. I could be wrong there.

You could be souless.

In which case, I would have to tie you down...but it's really not supposed to work that way. (That was un-scientific, you're right. Nor a major turn-on. "Love Bites" by Def Leppard.)

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:19 PM

Im glad you reflect our foreign policy WARDOG.

Thats as funny as sending the undiplomatic John Bolton as our diplomat to the un!

Posted by: gotta love the new 'merica at February 16, 2006 11:20 PM

Goddamn it! The roof is leaking AGAIN!

The roof guy has "fixed it" two times. GHR!

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:20 PM

Evening all...some religious news:

America's Moral Decline and the Rise of False Christianity
by Karen Horst Cobb

“This is the year God wants to make you a millionaire.” The visiting evangelist stomped back and forth on the stage of the rented school building. His “hallelujahs” and “praise God” crescendos were followed by jumping up and down. Sweat ran down his face as he proclaimed that the church members would not need to be afraid if the economy collapses and their neighbors houses are foreclosed upon because they are blessed and will have all of their needs met. The service ended with the explanation that the first step to becoming a millionaire is to pledge $200 of “seed faith money” to the church .

Just prior to the introduction of the evangelist the young single minister with spiky hair introduced the beginning of fellowship “life groups," explaining that the “free market” will decide which ones succeed. Recently, Ted Taggard of mega church New Life Fellowship in Colorado Springs explained that Spirituality is a “commodity “ to be bought and sold. The writings of Milton Friedman are recommended for all new converts. This young minister must also be a free market convert . His small group is a satellite of World Harvest Church. The sermon themes of the mega churches are all very similar and reflect the cause of America‘s moral decline. Christianity is getting a makeover using the classic trappings of Money, domination and military aggression.

It looks like the 50 million dollar Bible theme park which was to be built in Israel by evangelicals will not happen now that Pat Robertson insulted Arial Sharon. Imagine a 50 million dollar Bible theme park protected by nuclear weapons in the holy land and off limits to Arabs. The harvest of the mega church is ready; welcome the gleaners, the seed faith money has matured.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

I think I've been very patient...

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

Oh wow

In the 60's, I accidentally strangled a few women.

Posted by: Albert Desalvo at February 16, 2006 11:18 PM

Oh well, you know what they say:

"You can't make an omlet unless you break a few eggs."

Posted by: David Berkowitz at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

creature from the sea with the looks to me like she'd like to fool around!

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:22 PM

What haven't these thugs done since taking office?


um. Well, the whole coherent thing. Where they
coherently govern the people who supposedly elected them.

Thats one thing they haven't done a whole lot off.

Lots of death and mutilation. Not so much on the whole betterment of the people deal.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 16, 2006 11:22 PM

The roof guy has "fixed it" two times. GHR!

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:20 PM

Its damn near impossible to patch a leaky roof. In the end its way less time and money to just replace the whole thing.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 11:23 PM

Lots of death and mutilation. Not so much on the whole betterment of the people deal.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2006 11:22 PM

What are you a commie? Whats wrong with death
and destruction?

Posted by: Warthog at February 16, 2006 11:24 PM

Speak to Me, Pink

"I've been mad for fucking years, absolutely years, been over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off for bands..."

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

(Man laughing)

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:26 PM

War Dog...Bush has another plan, besides bombing. Read on....

Bush Plans Huge Propaganda Campaign in Iran
· Congress asked for $75m to fund programme
· Rice to visit Gulf states as nuclear crisis deepens

by Ewen MacAskill and Julian Borger

The Bush administration made an emergency request to Congress yesterday for a seven-fold increase in funding to mount the biggest ever propaganda campaign against the Tehran government, in a further sign of the worsening crisis between Iran and the west.

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, said the $75m (£43m) in extra funds, on top of $10m already allocated for later this year, would be used to broadcast US radio and television programmes into Iran, help pay for Iranians to study in America and support pro-democracy groups inside the country.

Although US officials acknowledge the limitations of such a campaign, the state department is determined to press ahead with measures that include extending the government-run Voice of America's Farsi service from a few hours a day to round-the-clock coverage.

The sudden budget request, which follows an outlay of only $4m over the last two years, is to be accompanied by a diplomatic drive by Ms Rice to discuss Tehran's suspect nuclear weapons programme. She is to begin with a visit to Gulf states. Ms Rice told the Senate foreign affairs committee that Iranian leaders "have now crossed a point where they are in open defiance of the international community".

She added: "The United States will actively confront the aggressive policies of the Iranian regime. At the same time, we will work to support the aspirations of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy in their country."

LINK">http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0216-08.htm">LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 16, 2006 11:26 PM

I think I've been very patient...

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

----------------------------------------------

Did you check for "plumber's butt"?

A good roof guy has plumber's butt.

Posted by: Crank "And A Dale Earnhardt. Hat" Bait at February 16, 2006 11:26 PM

Speak to Me

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:26 PM

Its damn near impossible to patch a leaky roof. In the end its way less time and money to just replace the whole thing.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 11:23 PM

Wrong!!!

While it is not a lot of fun - it is far from impossible...and I'm not even a roofer - but I've fixed a few. Depends upon motivation

Posted by: -tk at February 16, 2006 11:27 PM

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

I know. We try in our own ways...

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:28 PM

Bush Plans Huge Propaganda Campaign in Iran · Congress asked for $75m to fund programme · Rice to visit Gulf states as nuclear crisis deepens by Ewen MacAskill and Julian Borger The Bush administration made an emergency request to Congress yesterday for a seven-fold increase in funding to mount the biggest ever propaganda campaign against the Tehran government, in a further sign of the worsening crisis between Iran and the west.

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:28 PM

Judge Orders Action on Spying Documents
By Pete Yost
The Associated Press

Thursday 16 February 2006

Washington - A federal judge dealt a setback to the Bush administration on its warrantless surveillance program, ordering the Justice Department on Thursday to release documents about the highly classified effort within 20 days or compile a list of what it is withholding.

US District Judge Henry Kennedy said a private group will suffer irreparable harm if the documents it has been seeking since December are not processed promptly under the Freedom of Information Act.

The Justice Department failed to meet the time restraints under FOIA and failed to make a case that it was impractical to deal quickly with the request by the Electronic Privacy Information Center.

Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller said no determination has been made as to what the government's next step will be.

At a court hearing a week ago, Justice Department lawyer Rupa Bhattacharyya said the government would respond starting March 3, but she said she had no information on when the process might be completed.

Timing will depend on complexity, "and in this case there are a lot of complexities," Bhattacharyya said.

Kennedy wrote that "courts have the authority to impose concrete deadlines on agencies that delay the processing of requests meriting expedition."

Routine FOIA requests are to be handled within 20 days while expedited requests have no set time limit under the law, prompting the Justice Department to take the position that the amount of time for expedited requests could be longer than that for the routine 20-day handling.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 16, 2006 11:30 PM

Speak to Me

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:26 PM

"I can only speak to myself." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:30 PM

~~~ I agree that there are degrees of importance but I am also not too happy about the ability of the ruling class to instruct a law officer to come back tomorrow. ~~~

I place a lot of that blame on a law officer who would accept being told to come back tomorrow. That man was simply not doing his job.

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 16, 2006 11:14 PM

____________

Easy to say.

Now, I ain't making excuses here, cause I agree w/you. Technically, what you say is exactly right.

The responsibility for not interviewing Cheney in a timely manner devolved on the local law enforcement authorities who didn't insist on it.

But there's a reason folks are surreptitiously making claims against the Bush Administration in anonymously-sourced articles, and there's a reason that the few who have come out into the light (Wilkerson, et al.) waited until after election '04 was good and over.

The Bushies are vindictive bastards.

Question: If you were in that officer's shoes, would you handle it differently?

I'd like to think I would. But I might not as well.

Problem is, course, that all the whistle-blowers and folks who attempt to expose the infamies o f this administration get systematically screwed for speaking out.

People who should be national heroes (the soldier who outted the Abu Ghraib torture scandal) are instead treated like pariahs.

People who act in the interests of transparency and good government (secret CIA prisons, torture, illegal warrantless violations of FISA law) are instead threatened w/prosecution.

People who were prophets of doom (Shinseki) and tried to avert it instead get forced to retire in ridicule.

No one backs these people up, 'cept maybe the lefty blogosphere to a certain extent.

The press don't do it.

The government damn sure don't do it.

Oppose the Bushies, and you're on your own.

It's a lonesome place to be.

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 11:30 PM

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:30 PM

Flippin' shit?

Do it for a living sometime.

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:31 PM

According to Rassmussen Reports 27% of Americans believe that the hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President.

=======================================================================

That 27% number may tell us more than Cheney's accident was able to tell us..

A great many Democrats are not buyin into the hysterical rhetoric that so liberally spread across this blog..

I posted warnings about blind spots..

I warned some of thier high speed acceleration down a dean end..

I used to warn Nobody of such kamikaze attacks on logic..

The resulting impacts with logic were stunning..

I can only hope Nobs and his goats are warm and sleeping well tonight..

It would do Nobers heart good to know we still have folks who will blindly carry his banner into a head long assault on logic..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 11:32 PM

You can't make an omlet unless you break a few eggs."

Posted by: David Berkowitz at February 16, 2006 11:21 PM

What are friends for if you can't shoot them in the head, neck, chest, face and heart?

Posted by: Saddam Hussein at February 16, 2006 11:33 PM

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:32 PM

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No all it means is that they already knew he was incompetent, long before any hunting incident.

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:34 PM

What are friends for if you can't shoot them in the head, neck, chest, face and heart?

Posted by: Saddam Hussein at February 16, 2006 11:33 PM

Absolutely!

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 16, 2006 11:34 PM

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 11:30 PM

Actually, I'd refer you to the poll numbers, but...

That could be only one person's fault, I mean. Because all those people...

Those millions of people.

That's just willpower, not common sense.

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:35 PM


Washington - A federal judge dealt a setback to the Bush administration on its warrantless surveillance program, ordering the Justice Department on Thursday to release documents about the highly classified effort within 20 days or compile a list of what it is withholding.

"I think it's important to bring somebody from outside the system, the judicial system, somebody that hasn't been on the bench and, therefore, there's not a lot of opinions for people to look at." —George W. Bush, on the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, Washington, D.C., October 4, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:35 PM

I'm going to crack a beer...and watch Letterman now.

*kisses

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 11:36 PM

Its damn near impossible to patch a leaky roof. In the end its way less time and money to just replace the whole thing.

Posted by: duh at February 16, 2006 11:23 PM

------------

Yeah but I really don't want to tell the landlady that. I'm alreadty afraid she's just going to say screw it and sell the place.

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:36 PM

I can only hope Nobs and his goats are warm and sleeping well tonight..

It would do Nobers heart good to know we still have folks who will blindly carry his banner into a head long assault on logic..


Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:32 PM

"Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you're going to do about it." —George W. Bush, Kirtland, Ohio, April 15, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:37 PM

Russ Feingold is going to be on the season premiere of HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher tomorrow, February 17, at 10 PM CT (Encore presentation on Monday, February 20, at 7 PM CT). He'll talk to Bill on a variety of topics including the latest on the PATRIOT Act.

Posted by: toniD at February 16, 2006 11:38 PM

Damnit, I have a new Beth Orton CD AND a new Kate Bush CD to buy!

Posted by: Meg at February 16, 2006 11:38 PM

[I'm] occasionally reading, I want you to know, in the second term." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 16, 2006 11:39 PM

Feb 16, 2006 7:27 am US/Central

Aide: Chicago Not Interested In 2008 RNC

AP) CHICAGO Thanks but no thanks.

That's Chicago's answer to an invitation to submit a bid to host the 2008 Republican National Convention.

The Republican National Committee said yesterday that Chicago and 30 other cities were selected to submit bids explaining why they'd be a good choice to host the 2008 convention.

But a spokeswoman for Mayor Richard Daley says City Hall isn't interested.

Jackie Heard says city officials are more focused on whether to pursue a campaign to host the 2016 Summer Olympics.

Chicago hosted the Democratic National Convention in 1996.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 16, 2006 11:44 PM

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." - Oscar Wilde

Posted by: B's Negligence at February 16, 2006 11:44 PM

According to Rassmussen Reports 27% of Americans believe that the hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President.

Posted by: War Dog at February 16, 2006 11:32 PM

I don't believe that at all...

Cheney would make a fine President. In fact I think shooting a person while drunk should be made a requirement for holding office.

Posted by: Frank Fontaine at February 16, 2006 11:48 PM

Jack Ass - The Movie

Starring: Dick Cheney

Posted by: MAD TV at February 16, 2006 11:51 PM

Whittington is described as a moderate Republican, he doesn't like what these neo-cons are doing, he and Cheney argue, they've been drinking, and Cheney shoots him. The "other woman" is yet another distraction to steer attention from the truth. I think Whittington is dead, and they are trying to hide it long enough until they can say he died of "complications."


Posted by: Verita at February 16, 2006 09:55 PM

This is funny. I heard Rush today predicting the far left would come up with this very story.

You people are soooo predictable.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 16, 2006 11:52 PM

I see that I was giving the officer far too much credit.

Didn't know the decision not to interview Cheney was based on the recommendation of a former sheriff who is now one of the ranch hands and lives on the Armstrong ranch.

How cozy, indeed.

Every time you think you hit the bottom of the barrel w/these guys ...

Posted by: dr at February 16, 2006 11:55 PM

It was an accident.

Honest..

http://www.cactus48.com/images/slingshot.jpg

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 16, 2006 11:56 PM

Someone so ill they have to have a full medical crew accompany them EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME like Cheney, is not healthy enough to do the job! This is a Republic, not a Monarchy or dictatorship. Cheney has no right to hold this job until death. He only should hold this position while he's capable of serving the needs of the people's Republic.

If he can't even handle the decisions involved in last weekend's emergency involving a ONE DIMENSIONAL EVENT, how could he ever handle a governmental emergency that would involve MULTIFACETED issues and decisions, etc.!!

Posted by: nora at February 16, 2006 11:59 PM

Face the facts folks. Bush and Cheney are just great people and the scummy dems can't touch 'em.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:00 AM

First come, first served, he's serving it back

He travels light, without a pack, without love

Posted by: VHBot at February 17, 2006 12:03 AM

Face the facts folks. Bush and Cheney are just great people and the scummy dems can't touch 'em.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:00 AM

"As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself — not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." —George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006

Posted by: dear compassionate leader at February 17, 2006 12:03 AM

For Fishgrease....

Radical Cleric Rising as a Kingmaker in Iraqi Politics
By Robert F. Worth and Sabrina Tavernise
The New York Times

Thursday 16 February 2006

Baghdad, Iraq - Late Saturday night, on the eve of a crucial vote to choose Iraq's next prime minister, a senior Iraqi politician's cellphone rang. A supporter of the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr was on the line with a threat.

"He said that there's going to be a civil war among the Shia" if Mr. Sadr's preferred candidate was not confirmed, the politician said.

Less than 12 hours later, and after many similar calls to top Shiite leaders, Mr. Sadr got his wish. The widely favored candidate lost by one vote, and Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the interim prime minister, was anointed as Iraq's next leader.

"Everyone was stunned; it was a coup d'état," said the politician, a senior member of the main Shiite political coalition, the United Iraqi Alliance.

It was a crowning moment for Mr. Sadr, whose sudden rise to political power poses a stark new set of challenges for Iraq's fledgling democracy. The man who led the Mahdi Army militia's two deadly uprisings against American troops in 2004 now controls 32 seats in Iraq's Parliament, enough to be a kingmaker. He has an Islamist vision of Iraq's future, and is implacably hostile to the Iraqis closest to the United States - the mostly secular Kurds, and Ayad Allawi, the former prime minister.

Mr. Sadr's militia fighters have been quieter since the uprisings, but they are suspected in a range of continuing assassinations and other abuses that American officials have pledged to stop. Mr. Sadr himself was accused by the American of arranging a killing in 2004, though the arrest warrant was quietly dropped.

"It will be harder to take on the Mahdi Army with Jaafari as prime minister," said a Western official in Baghdad who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to be seen as interfering in Iraqi politics. "Jaafari could not have been elected without Sadr's support."

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 12:03 AM

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 17, 2006 12:04 AM

As the Great Dick Cheney Shiny Thing comes to a bitter end..

I must once again ask to not let your heart be heavy..

Just as this Shiny Thing came..

So will the next..

That is as certain as the rising sun..

And I can promise you that you will have no recolection of anthing that happened in the last 4 days..

You will view the next Shiny Thing through the simple eyes of a child...

The sun will come out Tomorrow

Bet your bottom dollar

That tomorrow

There'll be sun!


Just thinking about Tomorrow

Clears away the cobwebs

And the sorrow

'Til there's none!


When I'm stuck in a day

That's gray and lonely

I just stick out my chin

And grin, and say--


The sun will come out
Tomorrow

So you gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow

Come with me

Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya, tomorrow

You're always a day away

When I'm stuck in a day

That's gray and lonely

I just stick out my chin

And grin, and say--

The sun will come out
Tomorrow

So you gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow

Come with me

Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya, tomorrow

You're always a day away

Tomorrow! Tomorrow!

I love ya, tomorrow

You're always a day away!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 12:04 AM

Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya, tomorrow

You're always a day away

Tomorrow! Tomorrow!

I love ya, tomorrow

You're always a day away!

Posted by: War Dog at February 17, 2006 12:04 AM

"We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) --George W. Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:06 AM

Face the facts folks. Bush and Cheney are just great people and the scummy dems can't touch 'em.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:00 AM

Face the facts anon. Bush and Cheney are scum and the dems don't want to touch 'em!

Posted by: Louis Pasture at February 17, 2006 12:08 AM

Veritas-- Good plot line.

Though the movie will have to have some way to present the expressionless chubby lard white Cheney, fat cadaver that he is, in a special way to make "the other woman" direction credible. I mean, the horrible thought of Cheney kissing with that sideways mouth, uh, too many moviegoers will be wretching their popcorn....

Posted by: nora at February 17, 2006 12:08 AM

Mr. Sadr's militia fighters have been quieter since the uprisings, but they are suspected in a range of continuing assassinations and other abuses that American officials have pledged to stop. Mr. Sadr himself was accused by the American of arranging a killing in 2004, though the arrest warrant was quietly dropped.

"It will be harder to take on the Mahdi Army with Jaafari as prime minister," said a Western official in Baghdad who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to be seen as interfering in Iraqi politics. "Jaafari could not have been elected without Sadr's support."

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 12:03 AM

"When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and persecuted as a war criminal." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:09 AM

Lawmakers Seek Info on Cheap Venezuela Oil

2/17/06

The House Energy chairman said Thursday he suspects politics, not charity, is behind the Venezeulan offer to provide cheap heating oil to poor Americans.

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Joe Barton, R-Texas, and Rep. Ed Whitfield, R-Ky., chairman of the subcommittee for oversight and investigations, wrote to Houston-based Citgo Petroleum Corp., a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, on Wednesday asking officials to provide them with all records pertaining to the program by Feb. 23.

They said they are concerned the oil deals are ``part of an unfriendly government's increasingly belligerent and hostile foreign policy toward'' the United States.

The letter came as the U.S. and Venezuelan ambassadors began talking after a diplomatic rift marked by expulsions and threats to cut off oil supplies.

Citgo spokesman David McCollum declined comment Thursday, saying company officials were still studying the request.

The two lawmakers said Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's ``purportedly altruistic motives may camouflage his true motivations'' in providing the low-cost oil to Americans.

``Given President Chavez's clear anti-American sentiments, his current efforts must be viewed with concern that he is attempting to politicize the debate over U.S. energy policy,'' Barton and Whitfield wrote.

The letter drew a mocking response from some Northeast lawmakers, who have been supportive of the deal to help low-income families, particularly given this winter's high fuel prices.

``It's transparent, it's petty, it's political,'' said Rep. William Delahunt, D-Mass., who helped broker the original deal for cut-rate oil between Venezuelan officials and Massachusetts last year. ``Obviously, this is an effort to politicize a program that's really making a difference in the lives of people.''

Tensions have run high between the Bush administration and Chavez, a self-styled socialist who has been a sharp critic of American-style capitalism and has branded President Bush a ``madman.'

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 12:11 AM

the dems don't want to touch 'em!

Posted by: Louis Pasture at February 17, 2006 12:08 AM

Translated to fact:

The dems CAN'T touch 'em!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:11 AM


Delahunt said he is pushing to extend the current agreement with Citgo for five years in Massachusetts.

Citgo this week extended its discounted heating oil sales to Delaware and the Philadelphia area. Massachusetts, New York, Maine, Rhode Island, Vermont and Connecticut are also participating in Citgo's program.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 12:12 AM

Fuck God is right.


Cunts.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:13 AM

What's the future of Paul Hackett???

A real job now?

Maybe a stab at a book?

Is it possible he is so disenchanted with the dems he'll switch parties?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:13 AM

Lisa Marie Presley Marries Guitarist
Lisa Marie Presley poses with Michael Lockwood as they arrive at MusiCares' 2005 Person of the Year tribute to Brian Wilson, in this Feb. MARK J. TERRILL
From Associated Press

February 16, 2006 11:00 PM EST

LOS ANGELES - Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of rock 'n' roll king Elvis Presley, has married guitarist and music producer Michael Lockwood in a ceremony in Kyoto, Japan, her publicist said Thursday. Presley, 38, and Lockwood exchanged vows in a traditional Japanese ceremony on Jan. 22, spokesman Paul Bloch said.

Posted by: Hedda Hopper at February 17, 2006 12:18 AM

Daughter Riley Keough was maid of honor and son Benjamin Keough was a groomsman.

The best man was Presley's first husband Danny Keough.

Posted by: Hedda's EXTRA at February 17, 2006 12:19 AM

"Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges, years ago, said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights. That's a personal opinion. That's not what the constitution says. The constitution of the United States says we're all — you know, it doesn't say that. It doesn't speak to the equality of America." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:20 AM

If Bush and Cheney are really not very bright people why is it the dems always come up on the short end of the stick?

If Bush and Cheney are dimwits, but they still manage to outwit the dems, what does that say about the dems?

Can you say dumbocraps?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:24 AM

Lisa Marie needs to quit marrying everybody.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:26 AM

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:24 AM

Runnin' with the devil

Posted by: VHBot at February 17, 2006 12:27 AM

If Bush and Cheney are really not very bright people why is it the dems always come up on the short end of the stick?

If Bush and Cheney are dimwits, but they still manage to outwit the dems, what does that say about the dems?

Can you say dumbocraps?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:24 AM

"It's amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency." —George W. Bush, June 14, 2001, speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling.

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:28 AM

Translated to fact:

The dems CAN'T touch 'em!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:11 AM

Translated to fact:

republicans are dick heads.

Posted by: Howard Stern at February 17, 2006 12:28 AM

Oh Lord, the dummocrap guy is back...

Put on your boots people, it's about to get really deep in here.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:28 AM

republicans cheat. end of story.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:29 AM

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:26 AM

They'll divorce soon enough....Hollywood marriages...ask yourself, is it an improvement over Jacko?

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:29 AM

republicans are dick heads.

Posted by: Howard Stern at February 17, 2006 12:28 AM

Howie, how does it feel to be outdone by a dick head?

Must make you a bigger and dumber dick head.

LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:31 AM

Posted by: Howard Stern at February 17, 2006 12:28 AM

How's Sirrus, King of All Media? Hey, when you having Janeane and Sam on?

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:31 AM

This is funny. I heard Rush today predicting the far left would come up with this very story.

You people are soooo predictable.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2006 11:52 PM

-----------

Rush also said that Sherrod Brown was black.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:31 AM

Lisa Marie needs to quit marrying everybody.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:26 AM

______________

Would it be wrong to protest that I haven't had my turn yet?

Posted by: A Rake's Progress at February 17, 2006 12:32 AM

"We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 4, 2001

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:33 AM

Can you say dumbocraps?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:24 AM

Can you say shit for brains?

Posted by: Snappy answers for stupid questions. at February 17, 2006 12:33 AM

republicans cheat. end of story.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:29 AM

When you can't admit you don't have what it takes to win...then always claim the other side cheats.

It's the way of the dumbocraps.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:34 AM

When you can't admit you don't have what it takes to win...then always claim the other side cheats.

It's the way of the dumbocraps.


Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:34 AM

its the way of people who have been screwed over by dickheads.

who in their right mind would vote for the same
drooling idiot again? the first time was decided
by the supreme court and the second time was decided by diebold.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:36 AM

"Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better." —George W. Bush, in a press conference with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien. Sept. 24, 2001

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:37 AM

Well how are my little libnut friends tonight. I was reading your little forum tonight. Pretty funny stuff all right. But one thing i saw that kind looked odd. 27% I don't look like nobody is buyin the shit your sellin. There ain't nothin like a bitch who don't buy what ya got to sell.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:38 AM

Rush also said that Sherrod Brown was black.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:31 AM

WHAT RUSH WOULD SAY...in between hits of oxycotin and Estrogen (His eyesight ain't too good)

The liberal media painted him white on his blog! He had those Hollywood plastic surgeons correct his face!

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:38 AM

who in their right mind would vote for the same drooling idiot again? the first time was decided by the supreme court and the second time was decided by diebold.

--------------

Just and proper conclusions.

The dems had the power for years, but they threw it away. Now live with it, suckers!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:39 AM

You know I sure like the taste of these little libnuts. They sure can take a load. But you know they ain't too damn smart.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:40 AM

~~~ Question: If you were in that officer's shoes, would you handle it differently? ~~~

Well, if I were a police officer in South Texas I would have been fired long before that for pulling shit like demanding to question a Republican President of the United States.

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 12:40 AM

Well how are my little libnut friends tonight. I was reading your little forum tonight. Pretty funny stuff all right. But one thing i saw that kind looked odd. 27% I don't look like nobody is buyin the shit your sellin. There ain't nothin like a bitch who don't buy what ya got to sell.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:38 AM

"I want to thank you for coming to the White House to give me an opportunity to urge you to work with these five senators and three congressmen, to work hard to get this trade promotion authority moving. The power that be, well most of the power that be, sits right here."—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 18, 2001

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:41 AM

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at February 17, 2006 12:43 AM

Problem I got is I love to fuck em. But damn they are stupid. With an ugly bitch you can put a bag on her head. So that gave me an idea. You got it. Let em have it in the mouth. Now it may not even get half way inn. But by god it will shut them the fuck up.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:43 AM

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:40 AM

Seems no one's talking 'bout those crazy days gone past

Weren't they amazed when you were really last?

(Oooh-oooh)


You are the little dreamer

Posted by: VHBot at February 17, 2006 12:43 AM

Letterman was pretty good. I laughed.

Fallon was funny as usual.

I wish I was that charismatic.

I just stopped by...to correct myself.

I actually have no idea whether David Cross is a kike or not.

(What exactly is your major problem Sam? Shave.)

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 12:45 AM

Just and proper conclusions.

The dems had the power for years, but they threw it away. Now live with it, suckers!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:39 AM

So as long as the lawbreakers are republican its okay and we should just live with it?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:46 AM

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:41 AM

Don'tcha just hate it when Bush keeps winning and winning?

What are the political initiatives the dems have won?

Roberts.. nope

Alito.. nope

???

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:47 AM

Kike.

Where's tht word come from?

I don't even know.

I'm going to look it up. After I start to care.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 12:47 AM

Problem I got is I love to fuck em. But damn they are stupid. With an ugly bitch you can put a bag on her head. So that gave me an idea. You got it. Let em have it in the mouth. Now it may not even get half way inn. But by god it will shut them the fuck up.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:43 AM

Posted by: Pyscho Alert at February 17, 2006 12:48 AM

Bottoms. I love a good bottom. These libnuts love it on the bottom. Roll em over and your in business. I just love that look. You know, I love to see their face.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:51 AM

So as long as the lawbreakers are republican its okay and we should just live with it?

----------------

It might help if your party would stop the damned Bush bashing and do something constructive.

How's about coming up with some workable plans and then campaign for them. Convince the voters the party has something worthwhile.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:51 AM

I would also add that Archimedes also invented a steam powered cannon that fired a small cannon ball capable of holing a vessel at up to 1/2 a kilometer.

Posted by: Mr. Here at February 17, 2006 12:52 AM

Don'tcha just hate it when Bush keeps winning and winning?

What are the political initiatives the dems have won?

Roberts.. nope

Alito.. nope

???

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:47 AM

Well. Lieberman has won a giant ass kissing award.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:53 AM

Man, this repug troll is such a self-loathing gay.
\

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:54 AM

Hey, had a late thought,how retarded would a woodchuck be if a woodchuck was George Bush?

Posted by: daniel at February 17, 2006 12:54 AM

A person or group of people never elevate their own position by attempting to lower the position of the other side.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:54 AM

It might help if your party would stop the damned Bush bashing and do something constructive.

How's about coming up with some workable plans and then campaign for them. Convince the voters the party has something worthwhile.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:51 AM

Who cares? The republican party has what counts
(the votes) diebald.

Anything the democrats do or don't do is irelvant
until paper trail voting is re-instated.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:54 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 12:55 AM

A quote from Sean Penn....

"What I saw will stay with me forever. It's a masterpiece not only of filmmaking but of humanity itself."....

He was talking about the Russian film, Come and See, a film about a young boy's harrowing experience during WWII in Belarus (which was part of the USSR during WWII)...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:55 AM

A person or group of people never elevate their own position by attempting to lower the position of the other side.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:54 AM

The rule does not apply to republicans who are allowed by God to slander each and every opponant
in their path.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:56 AM

The great thing about Bush. Well, he discredits himself.

Watch.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:57 AM

Does a soul mate exist, or not?

Is it 2 souls that have reincarnated over and over again, in hopes of finding each other?

Oh my God, that's sounds ROMANTIC! I have a rep as a sarcastic chick....that's not going to help it...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:57 AM

"If I become president, we're going to have emergency-room care, we're going to have gag orders." —George W. Bush, third presidential debate, St. Louis, Missouri, Oct. 18, 2000

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 12:57 AM

Gay, Straight, makes no nevermind to me. All them bottoms have the same look on their face. That look. I just love it.

Posted by: Big Dick's Half Way Inn at February 17, 2006 12:58 AM

Well. Lieberman has won a giant ass kissing award.

-------------

I heard Big Ed Schultz sucking up to Joe Lieberman today.

Any idea why Ed would do that?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:58 AM

Who was it that was talking about the Repugs treating politics like a football game? Was that Randi? It's just so appropriate.

"WHOOT WHOOT WHOOT WE WON WE WON WE WON! WE KICKED YOUR BUTTS! HA HA HA HA!"

Then they realize they have no more freedoms. When Bush's Blackwater thugs take their guns away they'll be crying and wondering what happened.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 12:58 AM

Go Bush!

ER care?

how revolutionary!!!

:)

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 12:59 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:00 AM

I still like the idea that George Bush is the down syndromy decendent of Count Dracula.

Posted by: daniel at February 17, 2006 1:00 AM

Wins in Virginia and New Jersey: A seven million dollar investment in these two crucial contests produced two new Democratic governors. Governors Tim Kaine and Jon Corzine will continue to benefit from the long-term investments made in these states, and their wins signal that Democrats can and will win elections everywhere. In a signal of things to come, Democrats also picked up two seats in the Virginia legislature in post-November special elections -- seats that had been held by Republicans.

Wins at Every Level of Office: In addition to these high-profile Democratic victories, historic down-ballot victories in Arizona, Minnesota, West Virginia, New Hampshire and Alabama are another early indication that Gov. Dean’s plan to reinvigorate state parties with organizers will provide Democratic victories up and down the ballot in 2006, 2008 and beyond. In Tucson, Arizona, Democrats took back the city council by defeating two Republican incumbents. In Minnesota, two Democrats won seats in the state Senate elections that Republicans had held for over a decade. We also elected mayors in West Virginia and Alabama, including the first African-American mayor of Mobile, and won seven of eight special elections for the New Hampshire state legislature.


Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:00 AM

I heard Big Ed Schultz sucking up to Joe Lieberman today.

Any idea why Ed would do that?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 12:58 AM

If being polite and kind is kissing up than I suppose you are correct.

But I forget, only Republicans threaten to rape
and murder people they disagree with it.

I guess being polite and kind to someone you disagree with is kissing up to you all.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 1:01 AM

Anything the democrats do or don't do is irelvant until paper trail voting is re-instated.

----------

Are saying all the Republicans have to do is stick with Diebold and the dems will be out in the cold for ever?

Sounds more and more like there is no plan coming from the left.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 1:02 AM

Are saying all the Republicans have to do is stick with Diebold and the dems will be out in the cold for ever?

Sounds more and more like there is no plan coming from the left.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 01:02 AM

Yup. The plan from the left: run screaming into the night folks. Its gonna be bad.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 1:03 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:03 AM

eya gang,

been a busy night

and a good evening to you all.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:03 AM

And did you guys hear the Ark of the Coven is in Ethiopia?Said so right here on the History Channel.I guess George Bush better not find any Al Khaida there,cause if we find Osama in Etheopia he'll have the Ark and then we're kind of fucked huh?

Posted by: daniel at February 17, 2006 1:04 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:05 AM

Everybody knows them blue states are full of crime..

The Ugly Face of Crime

By Richard Morin
Friday, February 17, 2006; A02


"I'm too ugly to get a job."

-- Daniel Gallagher, a Miami bank robber, after police captured him in 2003

The hapless Mr. Gallagher may have been ugly, but he was also wise.

Not only are physically unattractive teenagers likely to be stay-at-homes on prom night, they're also more likely to grow up to be criminals, say two economists who tracked the life course of young people from high school through early adulthood.

"We find that unattractive individuals commit more crime in comparison to average-looking ones, and very attractive individuals commit less crime in comparison to those who are average-looking," claim Naci Mocan of the University of Colorado and Erdal Tekin of Georgia State University.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 1:06 AM

Focus On Our Core Values

Never Backing Down: Governor Dean has lived up to Martin Luther King, Jr.’s call to never remain silent about the things that matter. From the failed management of the war in Iraq to the moral crisis of 45 million people without access to healthcare, he has shown honesty and backbone and encouraged more Democrats to do the same.

A Clear Agenda: Working with other party leaders, we have created and begun to communicate a clear agenda for change:

Honest Leadership and Open Government -- We will end the Republican culture of corruption and restore a sense of responsibility to elected office, and we will pass fundamental reforms that make government more honest, open, and accountable to the American people than ever before.

Real Security -- We will protect Americans at home by getting serious about homeland security, and address the real threats abroad by capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and focusing on actual (not imagined) nuclear proliferation. We will be prepared for the threats of tomorrow, and we will always tell the truth to our troops and the American people.

Jobs in America that will Stay in America -- We will keep good jobs from leaving and ensure that every job in America is a fair deal. We will balance the budget, ensure that the tax code is simple and fair, and create jobs by making America energy independent.

A Strong Public Education System -- We will strengthen our nation’s public schools to restore opportunity and optimism for every American.

A Health Care System that Works for Everyone -- We will join every other industrialized country by making sure everyone has access to affordable health care. We will change a corrupt, inefficient system into one that makes sure the world’s wealthiest country is also the healthiest.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:07 AM

Hey, SJ....got your email...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 1:09 AM

Hi SJ

I'm sending healing thoughts to Ruzz. She's quite a trooper, eh?

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:09 AM

jeebus. nevern thawt ima gree wiff em wado. teh chainey huntin theeng is bein way over blown. therz much moer seerius stuff to go after him on. overblowin on em acsident aint gonna help on gatherin publik opinyen on hiz other serius maters. this aint em ishue (or non-ishue) to go all halabalooey on. hez gonna end up gettin simpathisers.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:11 AM

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 01:07 AM

Can't argue with that...nor exhaustion.

Eagle Rises.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:12 AM

Does a soul mate exist, or not?

Is it 2 souls that have reincarnated over and over again, in hopes of finding each other?

Oh my God, that's sounds ROMANTIC! I have a rep as a sarcastic chick....that's not going to help it...


Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 12:57 AM

All these crazy women

Ah just one more crazy night

But one night's all we're given

So honey (Ahh) leave me alone,

or I may be stayin' the night

Posted by: VHBot at February 17, 2006 1:12 AM

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 01:11 AM

It's rare that a VP shoots someone, so the story has legs. But the real meat is in what Fitzgerald knows about Cheney, and what's coming next for him.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:16 AM

Soulmates do exist. Mine is bright, shiny and red!

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:17 AM

Take Advantage of Cutting-Edge Technologies

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Overhaul of Democrats.org: The official DNC website, Democrats.org, received a complete overhaul, making the site more dynamic resource portal for state parties, Democratic organizations, and Democratic activists around the world. The web site has made the Democratic Party more transparent, more accessible, and more empowering for ordinary people than ever before.

Online organizing: Governor Dean has committed the DNC to integrating technology seamlessly with the party’s organizing operation. He continues to break new ground not only in fundraising, but in developing new and innovative ways for ordinary people to take part in our political process and organize in their communities. The web site has hosted thousands of events and been the vehicle for millions of independent actions by ordinary Americans to shape our political process, including over a thousand Organizing Kickoff meetings nearly a year before the 2006 midterm elections.

Online fundraising and small donors: Technology has empowered small donors from across the country to become powerful stakeholders in the party. Small donations over the Internet accelerated even faster than the overall improvement in fundraising. The DNC also recently launched a new personal fundraising tool, which allows anyone to create their own page on the web site and take fundraising into their own hands.


Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:17 AM

The Atomic Punk!

Posted by: VHBot at February 17, 2006 1:17 AM

I mean,should we invade Etheopia to keep the Ark out of the hands of terrorist?I mean,it's the Ark of the covens,once wielded by any army no force on earth can stand against its awsome power as it is the doorway to devinity and the kindom of heaven and power of god!!!in a convienient travel sized snack pack,so it could be considered a WMD and it's in this little shanty brick building out in the middle of Etheopia with like one guy watching it and a crappy little iron bar fense going around the property.What if Al khaida found out?Shit,what if Bush finds out?He'll want it.Dont tell him.Bush would invade,steal the ark,unless that one guy with the ark kicked Georges ass like Indiana Jones,just lets George pop the lid and look inside and "BLAAAAAAAGHRG!!!"Faces melting,boiling,exploding skulls and chain lightning,essentially the power of devinity frying them like bacon in a Texas hotseat RIGHT GEORGE?!!But if George Bush got the Ark hed be all like,"Jeb,you be president,Im going to go watch my uh I mean the the Ark...Keep it safe.".He goes and humps it all day long,"I love my WMD,I love my Ark.My precious....".

Posted by: daniel at February 17, 2006 1:18 AM

Phil Ochs was mentioned earlier....here's a great protest song....I Ain't Marching Anymore...about any war....

Oh I marched to the battle of New Orleans

At the end of the early British war

The young land started growing

The young blood started flowing

But I ain't marchin' anymore

For I've killed my share of Indians

In a thousand different fights

I was there at the Little Big Horn

I heard many men lying I saw many more dying

But I ain't marchin' anymore

(chorus)
It's always the old to lead us to the war

It's always the young to fall

Now look at all we've won with the saber and the
gun

Tell me is it worth it all

For I stole California from the Mexican land

Fought in the bloody Civil War

Yes I even killed my brothers

And so many others

But I ain't marchin' anymore

For I marched to the battles of the German trench

In a war that was bound to end all wars

Oh I must have killed a million men

And now they want me back again

But I ain't marchin' anymore

(chorus)

For I flew the final mission in the Japanese sky

Set off the mighty mushroom roar

When I saw the cities burning I knew that I was learning

That I ain't marchin' anymore

Now the labor leader's screamin'

when they close the missile plants,

United Fruit screams at the Cuban shore,

Call it "Peace" or call it "Treason,"

Call it "Love" or call it "Reason,"

But I ain't marchin' any more,

No I ain't marchin' any more

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 1:18 AM

good post EB

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:19 AM

//It's rare that a VP shoots someone, so the story has legs. But the real meat is in what Fitzgerald knows about Cheney, and what's coming next for him.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 01:16 AM
//

ima wuld fokus on that then (doent knoe wat it iz. ben to bz ta keep up on evreetheeng). teh all owt assawlt on chainey on thisn "pepperin" mater iz gonna get peples theenkerin therz jus peples owt ta get him. hez gonna look like em media iz jus owt ta get him. itn gonna get him simpathee, not hate, in lotter peples eyez.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:21 AM

Extinction-level impacts from space predicted before the end of 2012. A new Exodus, a retreat to the Ethiopian Highlands, begins in 2006.

Posted by: Mr. Here at February 17, 2006 1:21 AM

The Cheney hunting story having legs makes a lot more sense than the Clinton BJ story having legs. I know one Republican who hunts who just woke up to the fact that Cheney is not only not a "real hunter" but not a real Republican because of this incident. A tipping point is a tipping point is a tipping point.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 1:22 AM


Twilight begins at 6am

Jupiter now rises with Scorpio

Venus, the Morning Star will guide your dreams and mine.

Then as the sun begins at 7:30 am...

That waning moon will slowly fade into the morning.

Then.

You will awake.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:23 AM

ya she was

much better today

thanks for all of you

throwing out the good vibes

for us! really appreciate it loves!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:23 AM

no wun shuld be huntin. thatz wat groesery stores are fore.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:24 AM

This a cycle of life, as much as the cosmos...long after I leave this body.

And what prayer did you first learn?

If I should die before I wake...pray the Lord, my soul to keep...

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:26 AM

ima giver em fisherpeples a brake. yoo can cach an releeser fish. yoo kant cacher releese shootin em birdz.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:26 AM

one of my favorite pix of my Ladies

Bgurl and Ruzzer

airborne...

http://www3.telus.net/Art-Adventures/DoggerzRollerHockey/DogzRollrHcky0015.jpg

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:27 AM

Godsmack "Speak"

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 1:28 AM

good post EB

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 01:19 AM

If someone asks for a Plan, there it is. And it's working.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:29 AM

Hum .. I just realized I can find more soulmates at Napster .. anyone know on Napster Light if your have to pay for each track you buy singly??

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:29 AM

eya Mucker

best wishes and

good to read ya bud.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:29 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 01:27 AM

Hope we can see that again!

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:31 AM

well

she wanted to eat the three legged cats at the vets. only a Jack Russell owner would see that as a sign of returning health...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:33 AM

gud to see ya to jimmy. :)

no harm in haffin sum fun withem chainey insident, but wuldnt maken it em fokal poynt fore forsin him resignashen. therez moer sereeus maters on him that shuld be em fokus. demandin hiz hed over this insident aint gonna help wen it komes to em other maters. moest of teh jeneral publik iz jus gonna theenk "this groop jus haz it owt fore this guy in em name of politiks". ya doent hafter agree. jus my opinyen on wat ima seein peples say abowt em mater.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:34 AM

ima giver em fisherpeples a brake. yoo can cach an releeser fish. yoo kant cacher releese shootin em birdz.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 01:26 AM

when my cat catches a bird, I try to release it before it's mauled to death. It's a heartbreak to see a crippled bird being hit with a paw. It goes to show that nature is not always nice.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 1:35 AM

no. its not eb. ima ben wacherin to much nat-geo latelee. purdee disheartenin seein em muther lion eaterin her own kitten in em tymes of starvashen. :(

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:37 AM

Fish??? : / I am lost! Are you still about? I did the Napster Light deal .. but it looks like I have to pay for each track singly!?!? Is that right? : /

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:37 AM

Too bad Cheney did not get caught having an extramarital affair.

Posted by: then the story would have real legs at February 17, 2006 1:38 AM

eya Mucker.

he takes a few shots

then he takes a few shots.

personally i think he otter be

made to eat what he shoots.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:38 AM

~~~ anyone know on Napster Light if your have to pay for each track you buy singly?? ~~~

Yep. 99 cents or whatever.

But if you subscribe, you can't put all those songs on CD... only onto an mp3 player.

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 1:39 AM

//Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 01:38 AM//

eeeew.

wered ya heer he wuz dreenkin? ima misst that wun.

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:39 AM

the image would be startlingly appropriate

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:40 AM

"I think we need not only to eliminate the tollbooth to the middle class, I think we should knock down the tollbooth." —George W. Bush, Nashua, N.H., as quoted by Gail Collins in the New York Times, Feb. 1, 2000

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 1:44 AM

Whats up Yall.......Jim....

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 1:48 AM

Really!! Holy buckets!! I am glad you told me that! I only have the PC and no MP3 or anything! Whew!

Thanks Fish! Ya saved my ass big time! And now I will know that I pay for each at a time, too!

Sent you an email about other questions in addition to the ones ya already answered!! .. I am just SUCH a pain!! : )

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:48 AM

What you Doing Jim, Ono Round? Wonder what that fool is up too?

Posted by: Bob26003 3 at February 17, 2006 1:50 AM

eya B3

he asked the same thing of you! )

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:52 AM

You're too sweet Fish! Got your Email just now!

Thank you!! : ) Believe it or not .. I have one more question!!! I will email in a moment or two .. but no rush in getting back tome! I am certain you are probably working right now and I am bugging you!!

Thanks Again!! : )

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:52 AM

ono's em bud. iz peples pissed off withem?

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:52 AM

don't be too friendly

with him, it gets him paranoid.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:53 AM

How do you refresh with this Opera

Posted by: Bob26003 3 at February 17, 2006 1:53 AM

hit f5

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:54 AM

Can't think of anything interesting to say....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 1:54 AM

"The recession started upon my arrival. It could have been — some say February, some say March, some speculate maybe earlier it started — but nevertheless, it happened as we showed up here. The attacks on our country affected our economy. Corporate scandals affected the confidence of people and therefore affected the economy. My decision on Iraq, this kind of march to war, affected the economy." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 1:54 AM

My brain is apparently not working properly....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 1:55 AM

Hola Blog.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 1:55 AM

jeebus. roberto antoenyo wilsunus aint updaterd him blog in munths. iz he still alive?

http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 1:57 AM

We speaking of Ono??

I find if you spank him on the bottom and call him a sexy bitch every once in awhile, he is fine!! ; )

Posted by: Duh's Only CD at February 17, 2006 1:57 AM

Can't think of anything interesting to say....

Posted by: Goblin Girl

don't have to say anything.

punch in a number if you feel like it

good to have you here, we should get a fire

going in the bloggie fireplace and make mulled

wine with a red hot poker, sorta fun eh?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 1:58 AM

Got it , Theres a little tab up to as well.

Posted by: Bob26003 3 at February 17, 2006 1:58 AM

"I thought how proud I am to be standing up beside my dad. Never did it occur to me that he would become the gist for cartoonists." —George W. Bush, Newsweek, Feb. 28, 2000

Posted by: dear leader at February 17, 2006 1:59 AM

hiya mat. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:00 AM

Hey Miss Anne! Learnin' the Napster tonight, I am!!

Nice .. I am the only person I know .. who can shop til she drops .. with no money to speak of .. while suffering from a head cold that is about to split her skull in two!

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 2:00 AM

hola Mat!

good tidings dearheart.

find if you spank him on the bottom and call him a sexy bitch every once in awhile, he is fine!! ; )

(snort! i can't wait til he reads that! HHHHHH!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:01 AM

Hidden history of US germ testing


Fifty years ago, American scientists were in a frantic race to counter what they saw as the Soviet threat from germ warfare. Biological pathogens they developed were tested on volunteers from a pacifist church and were also released in public places.

The remarkable story is told in a BBC Radio 4 documentary, Hotel Anthrax.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:01 AM

eya wil!

your a natural comedian ya know...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:02 AM

kerrentlee lissenin to:

Anger, he smiles,

towering in shiny metallic purple armour

Queen Jealousy, envy waits behind him

Her fiery green gown sneers at the grassy ground

Blue are the life-giving waters taken for granted,

They quietly understand

Once happy turquoise armies lay opposite ready,

But wonder why the fight is on

But they're all bold as love, yeah, they're all bold as love

Yeah, they're all bold as love

Just ask the axis

My red is so confident that he flashes trophies of war,

and ribbons of euphoria

Orange is young, full of daring,
But very unsteady for the first go round

My yellow in this case is not so mellow

In fact I'm trying to say it's frigthened like me

And all these emotions of mine keep holding me

from, eh,
Giving my life to a rainbow like you

But, I'm eh , yeah, I'm bold as love
Yeah, yeah

Well I'm bold, bold as love (hear me talking, girl)

I'm bold as love

Just ask the axis (he knows everything)

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah!

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:03 AM

Hi GG

Did you ever see John Houston's Moby Dick with Gregory Peck? I hope Hollywood doesn't try and do a remake of that classic because I think it's perfect as it is and follows the book pretty well. I love that movie and Capt. Ahab.

Who could do a good Capt. Ahab today? Robin Williams? Just kidding...

Peck said Ahab was his favorite character.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 2:03 AM

hiya wil!!! :)

thank yoo. yoo mader my wek. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:04 AM

Good tidings to you all as well!

Had a lovely evening with a fellow Blogger.

He joined me and husbot for dinner and we showed him

video of Husbots cuzin (Mossie) in Ireland singing

"why pattys not at work today".

Nice to have a friend in.

HOLY CRAP I'm sounding like a shut in! :]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:04 AM

sheesh MAT!

way sick puppies.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:05 AM

onlee 2 books ima kan reed over an over agayne...

alise in wunderland/thru em lookerin gass

an

em grapes of rath

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:05 AM

*Giggle!!** SO FRIGGIN' COOL FISH!!!!!

: ) - Vertical Horizon ... "Everything You Want"

My first downloaded song!! I have lost my Napster Cherry!!! : )

HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! Wicked!

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 2:06 AM

way sick puppies.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:05 AM


you mean that article or Ruzz?

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:07 AM

goodun MAT.

perfect evening eh?

making some tea, want a cuppa?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:07 AM

Hey Muckie .. again!! ; )

Hey Sunny J! : )

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 2:08 AM

making some tea, want a cuppa?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:07 AM

Yes, please tea would be lovely.

Had a guiness with dinner tonight. Husbot is still working but he seems happy.

It was a very nice night. Good company, good food, and a wee bit of Irish Music.

Nice night! : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:09 AM

Down the street you can hear her scream 'you're a discrace',

as she slams the door in his drunken face

And now he stands outside and all the neighbours start to gossip

and drool

He cries 'oh girl, you must be mad,

what happened to the sweet
love you and me had?'

Against the door he leans and starts a scene,

and his tears
fall and burn the garden green

And so castles made of sand fall in the sea,

eventually

A little Indian brave,

who before he was ten played war games in the woods with his
Indian friends

And he built a dream that when he grew up he would be a
fearless warrior Indian Chief

Many moons passed and more the dream grew strong,

until tomorrow he would sing his first war song

and fight his
first battle

But something went wrong,

surprise attack killed him in his
sleep
that night

And so castles made of sand, melts into the sea, eventually

There was a young girl, whose heart was a frown

'cause she was crippled for life, and she couldn't speak a sound

And she wished and prayed she could stop living,

so she decided
to die
She drew her wheel chair to the edge of the shore,

and to her legs she smiled 'you won't hurt me no more'

But then a sight she'd never seen made her jump and say,

'Look, a golden winged ship is passing my way'

And it really didn't have to stop, it just kept on going

And so castles made of sand, slips into the sea,

eventually

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:12 AM

But America's Institute of Medicine is conducting a study of more than 6,000 veterans who say their health has been compromised by secret tests in the Cold War years.

Some of these were veteran sailors who were involved in tests known as SHAD - Shipborne Hazard and Defense - which involved spraying lethal chemicals such as sarin and nerve gases in the open sea.

----------------------------------------------------

GOOD GOD! we live in a wacked out fucked up country!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:13 AM

Wow .. mere seconds and I am now the proud owner or Possession - Sarah McLachlan, Unwell - Matchbox 20, Better Days - Goo Goo Dolls and In the Waiting Line - Zero 7.

Geez .. I love technology!

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 2:14 AM

article MAT

Ruzz gurl perkin up a bit!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:15 AM

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 02:03 AM

Haven't seen it. Peck always had an innate dignity in his work, which most actors/actresses nowadays don't.

Hollywood seems busy remaking bad films, like When a Stranger Calls and Herbie the Love Bug, so they may leave Moby Dick alone...

Who could play him now? I don't really know....how 'bout Sam? Maybe Russell Crowe....smart guy, reads a book a day, usually has a good eye for scripts. A little volatile, but intelligent people can be like that...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 2:15 AM

heddin owt. yallz haver gudnite. luve yallz. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 2:16 AM

eya GG

ever see Captains Courageous?

Spencer Tracy?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:17 AM

Ruzz gurl perkin up a bit!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:15 AM

Great news! good to hear.

yes, that article is mighty mighty scary.

I think I will read the rest of it tomorrow so that I can sleep tonight.

Husbot and I did not make it to the Quatum physics movie last night. He got home late and had had a miserble day. So we might go on Sunday instead.

we are suppose to get snow tonight but that seems unlikely since we have a clear sky.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:18 AM

evenin Mucky!

happy trails.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:18 AM

Sweet Dreams Mucky,

Go to see that wee bit of you!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:18 AM

Went down to 5th avenue yesterday, and saw another 4-5 women who look like Janeane....

She must be cloning herself with all the cash she got from The West Wing...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 2:18 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:17 AM

Never got to that one, either.....

Responded to your email, SJ...

Thanks again....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 2:20 AM

high cloud offshore MAT,

clear nights the coldest, could snow no prob

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:20 AM

who could play ahab?

Christopher Walken?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:21 AM

oh, btw, I'm here now...

hello!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:22 AM

high cloud offshore MAT,

clear nights the coldest, could snow no prob

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:20 AM

I will cross my fingers and chant,

I do believe it will snow

I do believe it will snow

I do I do I do believe it will snow! : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:22 AM

heddin owt. yallz haver gudnite. luve yallz. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at February 17, 2006 02:16 AM

Night Muckie!! Sorry I am being distracted by this Napster deal!! What can I say .. been along time since I got any new music ..okay most of this isn't "new" .. but still you know!

Sweet Dreams!! Come back again!! : )

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 2:23 AM

Hey Sunny J.

On that Toyo 22r engine you got sitting around. It wouldn't happen to have the wiring harness still with it?

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:24 AM

I do believe it will snow

I do believe it will snow

I do I do I do believe it will snow! : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:22 AM

=====

Me Too!!

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:24 AM

saw it GG.

the subject hard to bring up.

thats something i wait for peeps to bring up on their own.

an offer of help and concern nice when needed but best in the proper time.

you ever think about how important timing is?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:24 AM

Many feared dead in Philippine mudslide

By Dolly Aglay
45 minutes ago

MANILA (Reuters) - Mudslides triggered by heavy rains buried two villages in the central Philippines on Friday, killing at least four people and raising fears of a far higher death toll, officials and witnesses said.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:25 AM

Me Too!!

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 02:24 AM

: ]

waving hi!

Snowed in! I have never in my life been snowed in!

I have been snowed and snowed upon, but never snowed in.

I want to have that happen once in my life!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:26 AM

Evening Chubbster

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:26 AM

White House Ordered to Release Spy Papers

By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer
56 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A federal judge ordered the Bush administration on Thursday to release documents about its warrantless surveillance program or spell out what it is withholding, a setback to efforts to keep the program under wraps

At the same time, the Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said he had worked out an agreement with the White House to consider legislation and provide more information to Congress on the eavesdropping program. The panel's top Democrat, who has requested a full-scale investigation, immediately objected to what he called an abdication of the committee's responsibilities.

U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy ruled that a private group, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, will suffer irreparable harm if the documents it has been seeking since December are not processed promptly under the Freedom of Information Act. He gave the Justice Department 20 days to respond to the group's request.

"President Bush has invited meaningful debate about the wireless surveillance program," Kennedy said. "That can only occur if DOJ processes its FOIA requests in a timely fashion and releases the information sought."

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:26 AM

nah MAT

it's a long block

wiring harness a junkyard show

needs to be the exact same model and year.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:27 AM

needs to be the exact same model and year.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:27 AM

Thought I'd ask ya never know.

Do you think that is something that can be found in a junk yard?

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:28 AM

eya CB

some tea and quackers?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:28 AM

Jim howz the doggie? Gone to the vet yet?

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 2:28 AM

>>I want to have that happen once in my life!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:26 AM

======================================

Throw another log on the fire...

make some spiced wine.......

light the candles........

turn on the big band music station.......

call the hubby in...........

and listen to the snow fall.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:29 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:24 AM

Timing is important, of course, and it needs to be addressed very delicately....

And not to get too involved in it, as it doesn't really concern me directly....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 2:29 AM

ya MAT

only cheap place to find one

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:29 AM

and listen to the snow fall.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 02:29 AM

AH! Heaven! : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:30 AM

that Toyo 22r engine is bulletproof. I drove one once. Quite a powerful little beast over the hills when I got a head start.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 2:30 AM

Do you think that is something that can be found in a junk yard?

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:28 AM

I think my pop has one lyin' around.

Posted by: Lamont Sanford at February 17, 2006 2:31 AM

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 02:30 AM

Fun to work on too! Hardy little beasts, I miss my exxon valdez.

She is now a race truck, but when I had her, her floor boards were rusting though and she had a blown rear main seal.

Most reliable vehicle I have ever owned besides my Crotch rocket.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:32 AM

Me Too!!

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 02:24 AM


Not me.

its just more smoke and mirrors from the bush administration.

they want us to get all excited about sledding and snow ball fights so we will miss all the real news out there.

I think Cheney must have shot somebody new?


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Its BLOG SNOW!!! for you MAT


I gotta

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:33 AM

"I'm coming, Elizabeth, I'm coming!"

Posted by: Fred Sanford at February 17, 2006 2:33 AM

I think my pop has one lyin' around.

Posted by: Lamont Sanford at February 17, 2006 02:31 AM

I think he is Laying around on Lizbeth by now!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:33 AM

Eya Meg

evenin lass!

Ruzzalyn perked up a bit today.

saw the vet, stood up on her hind legs for him

and generally moved better all day, first sign of improvement tho!

still a sick lil gurlie, vet did'nt see any

indications of lime disease in her

blood test, gave me a freebie

check up too, bless him!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:34 AM

wierd. I purposly put irreguslat spacing in the `snow' so it would not appear in straight columns...what gives?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:34 AM

That is so sweet of you to make the blog snow for Missy Anne!!

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:34 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 02:33 AM

Beautiful! lovely!

I love it! : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:35 AM

Most reliable vehicle I have ever owned besides my Crotch rocket.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:32 AM

You weren't too bad yourself baby.

Posted by: Tommy Lee at February 17, 2006 2:35 AM

blood test, gave me a freebie

check up too, bless him!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:34 AM


FUCK YEAH!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:36 AM

Apple Hackers Encounter a Poetic Warning

By MAY WONG, AP Technology Writer
1 hour, 29 minutes ago

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Apple Computer Inc. has resorted to a poetic broadside in the inevitable cat-and-mouse game between hackers and high-tech companies.

The maker of Macintosh computers had anticipated that hackers would try to crack its new OS X operating system built to work on Intel Corp.'s chips and run pirated versions on non-Apple computers. So, Apple developers embedded a warning deep in the software — in the form of a poem.

Indeed, a hacker encountered the poem recently, and a copy of it has been circulating on Mac-user Web sites this week.

Apple confirmed Thursday it has included such a warning in its Intel-based computers since it started selling them in January.

The embedded poem reads: "Your karma check for today: There once was a user that whined/his existing OS was so blind/he'd do better to pirate/an OS that ran great/but found his hardware declined./Please don't steal Mac OS!/Really, that's way uncool./(C) Apple Computer, Inc."

Apple also put in a separate hidden message, "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext," in another spot for would-be hackers.

"We can confirm that this text is built into our products," Apple issued in a statement. "Hopefully it, and many other legal warnings, will remind people that they should not steal Mac OS X."

a poem...THAT'll teach 'em!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:36 AM

I hate the thought of that poor doggie waiting months for a vet appointment.

those socialized vets up there in Canada.

FOXnews should do a special report!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:40 AM

Im glad she;s better. How long has she had sypmtoms?

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 2:42 AM

jus went outside

1 degree below freezing here.

clear skies here now too.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:43 AM

I'm half way tempted to stay up all night. I am driving my friends to the airport at 4:30.

I'm going to be taking care of their critters while they are on vacation.

I've done this several times this year. My dear departed sister used to do that for them. I've taken over since she's passed on.

They live up on sw Rose, c-cat. I would guess its maybe a mile from where you live ?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:43 AM

clear skies here now too.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:43 AM


still no wind down here...once that starts, watch out!

If the sonw doesn't come through, MAT, you should have the husbot take you up to the mountains, there's always some snow up there!


maybe you can drive the Torro!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:46 AM

1 degree below freezing here.

clear skies here now too.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 02:43 AM


BURRRR

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:46 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 02:43 AM

I got to see the Multnomah falls last Sunday.

WOW! I have pictures if you want to see.

I would love to see them in the snow!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:48 AM

sorry if this is a repost:

==============

Senate Intel Committee Caves, Won't Investigate Bush Domestic Spying For Now...

NY Times | DAVID STOUT | Posted February 16, 2006 10:50 PM

The Senate Intelligence Committee decided today not to investigate President Bush's domestic surveillance program, at least for the time being.

"I believe that such an investigation is currently unwarranted and would be detrimental to this highly classified program," Senator Pat Roberts, Republican of Kansas and chairman of the panel, said this afternoon following a closed session.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:49 AM

Is Rose near Thistle?

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:50 AM

TV's "Hawkeye" salutes end of real MASH

By Steve Gorman

Thu Feb 16, 10:38 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - As star of the landmark TV comedy "M*A*S*H," Alan Alda played as big a role as anyone in transforming the acronym for Mobile Army Surgical Hospital into a pop-culture buzzword.

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Thus, the actor best known for playing the wisecracking Army surgeon "Hawkeye" Pierce was surprised, and a bit wistful, at learning on Thursday the last real-life MASH unit had been decommissioned by the U.S. Army and handed over to Pakistan.

In keeping with the acerbic wit of his TV alter ego, Alda was ready with a wry suggestion for how he and former "M*A*S*H" castmates who portrayed doctors and nurses on the show might be of service to Pakistan's newly owned field hospital.

"Before they hand it over, I hope they leave a phone number on the desk so they can call us in case (fugitive al Qaeda leader Osama) bin Laden drops in for a checkup."

Ironically, the MASH unit became one of the U.S. military's best-loved and most familiar institutions by way of a long-running CBS comedy series with strong anti-war overtones.

*******

WTF???

did we PRIVATIZE army field hospitals, now?

or are the wounded evacuated faster and more efficiently?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:51 AM

Posted by: Sister Honorable Plasma Rifle of Mindful Understanding at February 17, 2006 2:52 AM

Rose is a zipcode away from me.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:52 AM

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 02:49 AM


--------


Fuckers...

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 2:52 AM

WOW! I have pictures if you want to see.

I would love to see them in the snow!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:48 AM


Please!

you do such nice work!

by all means, post away.

mount Hood is only an hour from your place, isn't it?

I remember taking my folks up to Mout Baker years ago. there was snow up ther in the middle of august!

I can see mount baker from my balcony on a clear day, Sunny J can see it almost anytime.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:53 AM

Question: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Answer: That's not funny!!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 2:54 AM

I'll say it again: It's obvious that Bush spied first on the senators, collected information, and let them know what he's got on them. Best way to put down any insurrections.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:55 AM

>>Is Rose near Thistle?

I;'m pretty sure. I'll give me a chance to use the `street' button on google earth!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 2:55 AM

Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2006 02:54 AM

=

That's not funny!

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:56 AM

I can see mount baker from my balcony on a clear day, Sunny J can see it almost anytime.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 02:53 AM

I can see Mt St Helens, Mt Adams, Mr Rainear from the 30 when I Skeedaddle to Scappoose.

I will post the link to the snap shots I took Chubby but I'm not really happy with how they came out.

I need to go back more prepared.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:56 AM

I think Rose is near Thistle; if it's not, it should be.

Good night everyone~

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at February 17, 2006 2:57 AM

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 2:58 AM

over a month from the first signs...

she had a prob jumping up on the bed from a standing start.

she wanted to kick a Boxers butt this afternoon

sheesh! she's a tuff lil snort on her own

they hunt in packs ya know...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 2:58 AM

So Jim what does the vet think it actually is?

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 2:59 AM

yes, rose is one street north of thistle.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:00 AM

Sweet Dreams CatSEA!

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 3:00 AM

They shut down that Peter Greenaway site that I would post pictures from...

I'm pissed and saddened....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:01 AM

Hockey players take to the slush to protest inaction on climate change

DENNIS BUECKERT
Wed Feb 15, 4:01 PM ET

OTTAWA (CP) - Hockey players in four countries will lace up Thursday to protest inaction on climate change, which they say threatens the future of their game.

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"Save hockey, stop climate change," will be the slogan for participants in Halifax, Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton and Vancouver, Whitehorse and Fort Smith, N.W.T.

Games are also planned in the United States, Sweden and Austria.

"Climate change is the biggest threat to hockey since the NHL labour talks," Mike Hudema of the U.S. environmental group Global Exchange, said in a news release Wednesday.

The protest coincides with the first anniversary of the Kyoto Protocol's entry into force. The Conservative government has suggested that it may pull out of the accord or ignore its requirements.

Numerous studies have raised worries about the future of winter sports as global temperatures rise.


How about that, sports fans?

hockey isn't thought to be the most cerebral of sports

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:02 AM

I'm pissed and saddened....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 03:01 AM

Bummer they might be just upgrading it.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 3:02 AM

nite Csea!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:03 AM

Damn it! I missed weather talk!

We have 5 degrees with a Wind Chill -13

Where Nik is .. it's -26 with a Wind Chill somewhere in the lower -40's to upper 50's.

COLD PEOPLE!!! What happened to the Global Warming?? : (

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 3:05 AM

Bummer for me too.

My Banana bread turned out kinda weird this time.

I used walnuts instead of pecans and over cooked it just a bit.

I must be rusty.

The next one will be better, I used a kinda green banana this time too that might have done it.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 3:06 AM

eya Meg

figgers it's an upper intestinal infection,

possibly from an injury. still not certain but the
area under her ribs is sensative and painful.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:06 AM

Multhnomah Falls

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 02:58 AM
very nice!

I acan see mount rainier from my balcony too!

see the continuity?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:06 AM

Wil, we got your global warming down here. 70 degrees in February. Then this weekend they say it might snow.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:07 AM

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 03:02 AM

Nah, the guy shut it down, except for a section on Peter's first film, The Falls....

Cited some legal and health issues....

Just have to watch my Greenaway DVD's....he'd make a great guest on the MR.....Talk about cinema....he's not very political, as far as I know....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:07 AM

Jim, no chance she was hit by a car? (I hope not!)

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:08 AM

Nope .. take that back! Here is the new calculation Chart for Wind Chill at NWS. Nik is between -55 and -61 for Wind Chill.

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 3:08 AM

gusting to 35 knots here, been windy lately.

any body want a small leather biker jacket?

one torn pocket lining rest in good shape...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:09 AM

Ah Peter Greenaway...

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:09 AM

Time for me to head off to LaLa land.

Peaceful dreams bloggers.

this is for you sunny j : ]

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 3:10 AM

Hey Wil, did you bu Nik that sweater for Christmas?

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:10 AM

Wil, we got your global warming down here. 70 degrees in February. Then this weekend they say it might snow.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 03:07 AM

Jealous .. actually .. on BOTH COUNTS!! We have had almost no snow here this Winter! : /

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 3:10 AM

Wil, is that unusual for his area?

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:11 AM

No ... I didn't! I should have though! And electric underwear!

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 3:12 AM

Jim, no chance she was hit by a car? (I hope not!)

nope! watch er like a hawk, she's escaped twice this year, but trotted back in both times.

she rips around like a maniac when she's chasing though

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:12 AM

Nope .. take that back! Here is the new calculation Chart for Wind Chill at NWS. Nik is between -55 and -61 for Wind Chill.

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 03:08 AM

Poor cocksucker!

Wait a minute! Who the fuck is Nik?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 3:12 AM

Wil, you wouldn't be jealous if you had muy sinuses.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:12 AM

Nope .. take that back! Here is the new calculation Chart for Wind Chill at NWS. Nik is between -55 and -61 for Wind Chill.

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 03:08 AM

well, that's a whole different deal.

we are talking `way out west' cold...not that namby-pamby east of the mississippi shit.

see, right now its 38 in seattle..but the seattle PI says it feels like 28...by your easterner standards that'd be a million degrees below zero...without the wind chill!

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:12 AM

hee!

thanks MAT!

night to you both.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:13 AM

Wil, you wouldn't be jealous if you had muy sinuses.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 03:12 AM

If you want to compare sinuses, you'll be the loser.

Posted by: Felix Ungar at February 17, 2006 3:14 AM

i'm out too i think...

love ya all, and sweet dreams!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:16 AM

The next one will be better, I used a kinda green banana this time too that might have done it.

Posted by: akaMAT at February 17, 2006 03:06 AM

you might want to not use the sun oven until the temp goes back to 50 or more?

the artic express wshould be reaching here any time...

the artic express is where you have wind come down from alaska along the canadian rockies. it is severely cold when it happens, which is not too often.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:17 AM

who will stay up with me?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:18 AM

maybe 3 or four hours of sleep would be a good Idea...I do have to drive later.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:19 AM

No ... I didn't! I should have though! And electric underwear!

Posted by: Wil at February 17, 2006 03:12 AM

Good thing you didn't give him any of your underwear. The poor prick would be even colder!

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:19 AM

Good Jim... I have a friend that had a horror story about that. She got a stray and she'd been hit by a car and they didn't know it.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:20 AM

who will stay up with me?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:18 AM

You ask for the impossible.

Posted by: Don Rickles at February 17, 2006 3:21 AM

Ah Peter Greenaway...

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 03:09 AM

Saw him at a humanities festival in Chicago a year or so ago....he was wonderful, but the "host" was a pretentious, uptight prig....

He had that "film school" mentality....Peter was very civilized about the whole thing, even though I'm sure he would have liked to give in to his inner primitive and deck the guy....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:22 AM

We can get pretty cold, but not THAT cold, and never for long.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:22 AM

ah Meg...

what a bummer!

she's OK that way.

Gnite and sweet dreams

gurlie and thanks for the

good vibes for lil Ruzalyn ) xox's

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 3:23 AM

I have a picture...my two sisters on christmas 1969...the year my dad gave Sandy a norwegien popny, "Princess.

There is snow on the ground. Sandy and Rocky are all bundled up. Sandy is beaming with Joy, grinning like Janeanne in the pic with Micheal Stipe from last friday's blog. Sandy's and Janeanne's glasses are identical.

the pony...she looks about as bright as you'd expect Ono to look.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:23 AM

You ask for the impossible.

Posted by: Don Rickles at February 17, 2006 03:21 AM


is that what you told Jesus when he asked the same question?

anyone? anyone? Buehler?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:25 AM

>>she looks about as bright as you'd expect Ono to look.

because of the distances between their eyes.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:26 AM

stupid cat...spilled my orange juice on my lap.

by a small miracle, it didn't drench my keyboard...

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:27 AM

stupid cat...spilled my orange juice on my lap.


Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:27 AM

I'll bet that's the most action you've had in a while.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:30 AM

Berry Can't Escape 'Catwoman' During Award


By NANCY RABINOWITZ, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 26 minutes ago

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - Halle Berry had to write "I will not make 'Catwoman II'" on a chalkboard four times Thursday in order to earn her pudding pot as Harvard's Hasty Pudding woman of the year.

Berry's performance in the 2004 action bomb earned her a worst-actress award in last year's Razzies, a spoof of the Oscars that trashes Hollywood's worst.

where is GG when I need her?

whay have they forsken me?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:31 AM

Well, it's easy to get them to hold still... Thu Feb 16, 9:16 AM ET

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's obsession with camera-equipped mobile phones has taken a bizarre twist, with mourners at funerals now using the devices to capture a final picture of the deceased.

"I get the sense that people no longer respect the dead. It's disturbing," a funeral director told the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper.

At one ceremony several people gathered round the coffin and took out their phones to photograph the corpse as preparations were made to begin a cremation, she was quoted as saying.

"I'm sure the deceased would never want their faces photographed," she said.

But others called it a form of a memento in the modern age.

"Some can't grasp 'reality' unless they take a photo and share it with others ... It comes from a desire to keep a strong bond with the deceased," social commentator Toru Takeda told the paper

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:34 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:31 AM

Never saw Catwoman....don't really see Hollywood films....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:35 AM

Poor Noodle the Poodle.... THat was an awful thing.

Anyeay, I have to go to bed. I'm cold.

Chubby, tell the kitty he was wrong to do that. Orange juice is expensive.

Gnite all!

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 3:37 AM

you don't have to see catwoman to kow it was a pile of (cat) crap

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:38 AM

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 03:37 AM

cats are blameless...trust me, I tried.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:39 AM

Orange juice is expensive.

Posted by: Meg at February 17, 2006 03:37

Not the generic stuff that cheap prick buys.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:39 AM

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 03:39 AM

who are you?

what the hate?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:40 AM

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 03:39 AM


Its a damned shame this is as close to friendship as you will ever come.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:41 AM

hate, hate, hate...

one day it will come back to you

in spades.

karma is like that

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:42 AM

btw: it was that new organic brand that Safeway is selling.

I think its a house brand.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:44 AM

Its a damned shame this is as close to friendship as you will ever come.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:41 AM

You think I need you as a friend, you cocksucker? I got enough fucking people hitting me up for loans, you jidrool.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:44 AM

Cats rule....dogs drool....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:46 AM

Cats rule....dogs drool....


Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 03:46 AM

How u doin, sweetheart. How bout we take a trip to Atlantic City? Have some fun. I have some very dear friends there.

I'll get us a suite with sound proof walls so no one can hear our cries of passion.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:51 AM

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 03:51 AM

Why don't we go to Vegas and have one of those ridiculous cheap, quickie "weddings"?

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:52 AM

you have no friends.

even if you had money you'd have no friends.

you are just a pathetic hate filled man that is trying to validate his existance by inciting anger in others.

why don't you take this act out into the street?

oh, that's right, you are a coward.

you are like the punk that attacked me a few months ago. so full of disrespect...so sure he could push his luck... that'd he could push me around and I'd just back down. that he would be able to pick a fight, beat me up and then lie to the police about it...well, he got 2 out of 3 right, he picked a fight and lied to the police.

I doubt if he'll ever play that game again.

I learned from that lesson, I hope he did...

but you?

you'll have to learn the hard way.

I'm glad I won't be anywhere near when your shit hits the fan.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:54 AM

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 03:51 AM

Why don't we go to Vegas and have one of those ridiculous cheap, quickie "weddings"?


Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 03:52 AM

Whoa, whoa!!

Easy baby!

I like to take a test drive before I buy the automobile.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:54 AM

Sorry, i'm a total fuckhead.

I don't have a life. Well i have a life but it's shit.

Please ignore me.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:55 AM

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 03:52 AM

I can't believe you are flirting with that SOB.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:55 AM

GG, I am very disappointed you would encourage this flame throwing troll.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:56 AM

I obviously misjudged you.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 3:57 AM

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 03:55 AM

Fine, I'll ignore you....

Get the hell off the blog...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 3:59 AM

I'm glad I won't be anywhere near when your shit hits the fan.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:54 AM

Can't you see I'm working, here?

But since I like you, I'll do you a favor. My nephew Tony sees this shrink, A Dr. Melfi. She's a real piece of ass, and she's good, too.

A couple sessions with her could make a world of difference.


Now where were we, Goblin Girl?

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 3:59 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:56 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:57 AM

Not flirting...I was being sarcastic...I shouldn't encourage these trolls, I know....got a little emotional about something that happened earlier tonight....not myself, entirely....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 4:01 AM

I can't believe you are flirting with that SOB.


Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:55 AM


You should be taking notes. It would cut your porno bill in half.

And stop stealing my nic.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:02 AM

I love sucking dog dicks.

It's a sickness, but i really crave dog cock.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:05 AM

Not flirting...I was being sarcastic...I shouldn't encourage these trolls, I know....got a little emotional about something that happened earlier tonight....not myself, entirely....


Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 04:01 AM

Listen, Sweetheart, I know I get out of line sometimes, but in my business you can't afford to be soft.

I can assure you I have a gentle side that you could come to know and love.

What type of wine do you like? You strike me as a chardonnay kinda girl.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:06 AM

I obviously misjudged you.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:57 AM

Who are you to judge anybody, you fat cocksucker? You should worry more about the tragedy that is own life, you prick.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:09 AM

I'm a chardonnay and dog cum kinda guy.

A complete loser.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:10 AM

I shouldn't encourage these trolls, I know....got a little emotional about something that happened earlier tonight....not myself, entirely....


Posted by: Goblin Girl at February 17, 2006 04:01 AM

Listen, I gotta go. Maybe we talk when this useless pile of, nic stealining cowflop, Chubby Bubba, isn't around.

Goodnight, beautiful.

Nic stealing is a banable offense, Pigman!

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:13 AM

Excuse my dual personalities.

They both suck.

Which reminds me. "Here Rover. Come here, buddy. Cum put your dick in my mouth. That's a good doggie"

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:14 AM

I pretend to be a badass, a real big shot.

But i'm a coward.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:17 AM

I must of left.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at February 17, 2006 4:23 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 4:34 AM

Looks like I ran all the women off, AGAIN.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 4:34 AM

"Looks like I ran all the women off, AGAIN."

Not quite. There's an older woman in the midwest lurking and baking peanut butter cookies. She has to leave now but you didn't run her off. G'night.

Posted by: Oatmeal-Peanut Butter Chew at February 17, 2006 4:40 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 04:34 AM

Don't worry about it....

Posted by: Anonymous BloGGer at February 17, 2006 4:51 AM

Happy trails to you, until we meet again.

Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.

Who cares about the clouds when we're together?

Just sing a song, and bring the sunny weather.

Happy trails to you, til we meet again.

Headin' to the Bunkhouse now! Ya'll have Sweet Dreams now ...

Posted by: A Cowboy named Nony & Mouse the Horse at February 17, 2006 5:12 AM

Posted by: pix at February 17, 2006 5:51 AM

"Omne vivum ex vivo."

Posted by: Harvey. at February 17, 2006 6:24 AM

Trees are a treasured source of energy for practicing meditation. The solidity of a tree, its roots connecting it with the energy of the earth,is a quality that is emulated by the practitioner. One has only to look at the roots of a tree growing near rocks or a sidewalk to realize that a tree has the tremendous power necessary to buckle concrete and separate stones. As long as our arboreal friends are not injured, they seem able to live for an indefinite period of time. For the Chinese, trees live in close harmony with the Tao.

Posted by: Tree Meditation at February 17, 2006 6:26 AM

Posted by: pix at February 17, 2006 6:29 AM

People all over the world

(everybody)

Join hands

(join)

Start a love train, love train

Posted by: * at February 17, 2006 6:32 AM

1. You can practice with a tree in your backyard or any natural area.

The energies of trees are most available at dawn or dusk, but they can

practice with you at any time. In general, select a comfortable standing

meditation posture as close to the trunk of the tree as possible.

2. If you are in a wooded area, walk slowly and visually scan the area

without focusing on any single object. Wait for one tree to select you

by suddenly becoming the attractive focus of your attention in a way that

differs from all the surrounding trees. You will know when you have

found your tree because you will feel more inclined to practice with this

tree than with any other you have seen.harves

Posted by: Tree Meditation at February 17, 2006 6:48 AM

Since governments, sects and countries will undergo such sweeping changes, diametrically opposed to what now obtains, that were I to relate events to come, those in power now - monarchs, leaders of sects and religions - would find these so different from their own imaginings that they would be led to condemn what later centuries will learn how to see and understand. Bear in mind also Our Saviour's words: "Do not give anything holy to the dogs, nor throw pearls in front of swine lest they trample them with their feet and turn on you and tear you apart."

-M. Nostradamus

Posted by: Quotenstein at February 17, 2006 6:49 AM

Henry's terror flight

US rocker and writer Henry Rollins was reported to the National Security hotline during his recent Australian tour because of a book he was reading on flight to Brisbane.

A furious Rollins was informed he was "nominated as a possible threat" for reading Jihad: The Rise Of Militant Islam In Central Asia.

http://entertainment.news.com.au/story/0,10221,18160231-7484,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 6:58 AM

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 03:57 AM

that was my last post before I went to bed.

JOSH, for the love of god, tell Sam to get proactive about banning people.

in the last few weeks the nic stealling and flame throwing has gotten really bad.

You really should identify this `uncle junior' and give him/her the boot. He obvioudsly doesn't have any respect, he's laughing at our reluctance to take action. and, why not take out wardog while you're at it?

I think the both of them are laughing at your blog administration's `weakness...I don't see it as weak, but a mischief maker would.

as far as Wardog... the constant blovating doesn't really cut it as free speech, its actually antagonism.

please think it over.

but this uncle junior HAS to go, regardless who they turn out to be.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:00 AM

Some Shows Turn NBC Olympics Into Also-Ran

By RICHARD SANDOMIR and BILL CARTER
Published: February 17, 2006
TURIN, Italy, Feb. 16 — NBC Olympic broadcasts have always turned back challenges to their ratings dominance, but the Turin Games have shown that strong counterprogramming can succeed.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:03 AM

>>but the Turin Games have shown that strong counterprogramming can succeed.


or maybe the problem is the trite nationalist spectacle the Olympics has devolved into?

All this flag waving turns people off when that very same flag is being used to cover up torture camps and coffins...

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:11 AM

sure is quiet here at 4 am pst.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:12 AM

the NYTimes letters to the editor don't include a single critsism of Cheney's `18 hour gap' that he refused to meet with the police...

how is that possible?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:19 AM

3. Once you approach your tree, notice from which direction the sunlight

is falling on its trunk. If you feel tense and have recently been under

a lot of stress, you may want to stand in the tree's shadow, which

heightens the convergence of yin energy. If you feel weak or have

recently been ill, you should stand in the sunlight. In any case, you

should always try to stand on the most level area at the base of the trunk.

4. Whether you stand facing the tree trunk or away from it depends on

the size of the tree and your personal preference. If it is a small

tree, you may be able to partially encircle the trunk with your arms

without actually touching it. A larger tree may ask you to stand with

your back as close to it as possible without making physical contact.

Posted by: Tree Meditation at February 17, 2006 7:25 AM

the worst aspect that this new generation of shit-stirring trolls is the suspicion it spawns.

I find myself wondering just who this person is? they obviously have been here a while...

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 7:27 AM

the NYTimes letters to the editor don't include a single critsism of Cheney's `18 hour gap' that he refused to meet with the police...

how is that possible?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 07:19 AM

Are you sure it was the police - it was my understanding they were involved right away, and it was the press that wasn't notified...

But then, I've been wrong plenty 'O times before...trust me ;)

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 7:29 AM

How's school going CB?

I have just over a year left for an econ degree...people are starting to ask me what I'm going to do after that...

Nope, that's not quite right...I'M STARTING TO ASK ME WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AFTER THAT!!

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 7:33 AM

It's not me.


I never steal nics.

But wasn't Happy Trails your song Chubbs?


You used to post that a lot I thought...

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 7:35 AM

Them ranches in Texas Corpus look like plantations

With a few Mexicans in a so-called (front) of a town

Case Closed!

This is my town, I saw what go on around here.

Totalitarian Police State.

Posted by: Massa at February 17, 2006 7:36 AM

5. Relax by feeling yourself breathing with the tree. Feel every part

of your body gently expand and contract as you inhale and exhale

naturally, smoothly, and softly. Experience the feeling that there is no

difference between you and the tree. Maintain this feeling as long as

you can.

6. If you get tired but wish to continue your meditation, sit down with

your back against the tree and close your eyes. Imagine that the

pressure of the trunk against your back is your own spine and that

tremendous energy is being transmitted into your body. Continue as long

as you are comfortable. The same exercise may be done lying down with

your head against the base of the tree, using leaves for padding if the

bark is too rough for the scalp and neck.

Posted by: Tree Meditation at February 17, 2006 7:41 AM

Morning Shell...

Not that you ever needed to know this, but my favorite fast food (which, btw I almost never eat fast food) restaurant is 60 miles away...

I have class in a little less than two hours...

I could probably make a quick run for bisquits and gravy...;)

Mmmmmmm - to me they sound most delicious right now...Crap!!! maybe tomorrow - I don't think I could make it...specially with the interstate traffic

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 7:43 AM

Worth a repost...

---

I offer you peace. I offer you love. I offer you friendship.

I see your beauty. I hear your need. I feel your feelings.

My wisdom flows from the Highest Source.

I salute that Source in you.

Let us work together for unity and love.


Posted by: Mahatma Gandhi, Prayer for Peace at February 16, 2006 12:58 AM

---

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 7:58 AM


Greenland's glaciers are speeding to the ocean
12:49 - 17 February 2006
NewScientist.com news service - Roxanne Khamsi, St Louis


Greenland's glaciers have begun moving faster, almost doubling the rate at which they dump ice into the Atlantic Ocean within the last five years, new satellite images reveal. The data has sparked warnings that experts have underestimated how much sea levels will rise in the future.

"We are witnessing enormous changes," says Eric Rignot from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at Caltech in Pasadena, California, US. "These are very active glaciers," he adds. "Similar to the glaciers in Alaska, once you push them a little bit out of equilibrium they start thinning and retreating very fast."

He says previous predictive models of Greenland's ice loss did not adequately take into account the faster movement of its southern glaciers, which is accelerating the amount of ice entering the ocean: "Greenland is probably going to contribute more to sea level rise, and faster than predicted by these models."

Rignot's team used satellites to monitor glacier positions and to calculate their velocity. They combined this data with ice thickness estimates to discover Greenland's net ice loss. According to the new analysis, the amount of ice loss due to glacier glacial flow rose from 50 cubic kilometres per year in 1996 to 150 km3 in 2005.

Also see: Global Warming: A New Worst Case

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 7:59 AM

Well - apparently nobody wants to play...So I'll just post some math problems for a while 'till someone wants to. Problem number one (oh - and you lurkers should put your thinking caps on now ;))

1) Find the slope of the line PQ and tell the direction of the slant (up to the right, down to the right, horizontal or vertical)

P(-1,4) Q(3,-2)

"sure that's an easy one, but we'll go for the gold later on"

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 8:00 AM

☼☼ friday ~ galactic moon 0.0.4.7 ~ 8.11 ☼☼

white spectral dog ~ kin 50

DISSOLVE in order to LOVE,

RELEASING LOYALTY

seal the PROCESS of HEART

with the SPECTRAL tone of LIBERATION.

guided by the SAME power DOUBLED.

☼ 4th quartet galactic activation portal...enter...... ☼

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at February 17, 2006 8:02 AM

Morning -tk...

Traffic. - what a drag -

I have a favorite fast food also....(not that you need to know this...)

Did you do your homework? :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:03 AM

Judge Orders Spying Documents Released

WASHINGTON - A federal judge ordered the Bush administration on Thursday to release documents about its warrantless surveillance program or spell out what it is withholding, a setback to efforts to keep the program under wraps.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:06 AM

I wonder why they call them "problems"

They should actually be called "questions"

Ok math "question" #2

Solve the systems by using the substitution method...

x + 3y = -1...2x - y = 5

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 8:07 AM

Landslide Slams Village, 1,500 Missing

MANILA, Philippines - A rain-soaked mountainside disintegrated into a torrent of mud, swallowing hundreds of houses and an elementary school in the eastern Philippines on Friday. At least 23 people were confirmed dead, and 1,500 were missing.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:07 AM

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:09 AM

7. When you have completely returned to your own body, place both hands

against the trunk of the tree and slowly inhale and exhale 21 times, or a

bit longer. Mentally transmit your own energy to the tree through your

palms while exhaling, and take in energy while inhaling. You will know

that you are doing this correctly when you feel a slight pulsating

sensation directly in the center of your palms.

You may later return to this particular tree or choose another. Feel

free to improvise and experiment, because you may find a particular way

of practicing with trees that allows you to integrate more completely

with them. Let your own body and the tree be your guide, for there is no

set routine to follow. You are attempting to draw energy by integrating

yourself with nature; therefore, do what seems most natural to you.

Reply to: Community_Forestry_Discussion

To: Community Forestry Discussion

Subject: TH: tree meditation

The tree meditation was found in a book entitled Still as a Mountain, Powerful as Thunder, written by Y.P.Dong.

It is a simple Taoist exercise for healing, vitality, and peace of mind.

Posted by: Tree Meditation at February 17, 2006 8:11 AM

Did you do your homework? :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 08:03 AM

;)

I always do my homework...right around 12 hours before the exam...

I figure if I pound it into my head quick - it will stick...

Clearly not the best method...but it has worked for me for over 2 years - 'course I can't rely on this for either math or....well, I guess only math ;)

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 8:12 AM

Morning all!!

The arrogance of this admin is back. The push it in your face tactics are starting again.

Back to Story - Help
Gonzales Won't Step Aside in Abramoff Case By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago


Attorney General Alberto Gonzales brushed aside requests on Thursday that he remove himself from the investigation of Jack Abramoff and the lobbyist's ties to Bush administration officials and members of Congress.

Gonzales, who was White House counsel for four years before taking over at the Justice Department, said the inquiry is being run by career prosecutors who are not influenced by politics.

Thirty-one Senate Democrats said in a letter to Gonzales that he was too close to the president and top administration officials who have had dealings with Abramoff and immediately should step aside from the investigation.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 8:14 AM

I wonder why they call them "problems"

They should actually be called "questions"

Ok math "question" #2

Solve the systems by using the substitution method...

x + 3y = -1...2x - y = 5

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 08:07 AM

That's a good point.

Ummm...der...I'm not familiar with that method.... :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:17 AM

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 07:58 AM

That is very nice.

Posted by: Nancy at February 17, 2006 8:19 AM

I'm back from the airport...its 25° out there...next to no wind, clears are still fairly clear.

It the tv news informs me the northeasterns were blowing in the mountains and on the eastern side of the moutains.

no snow for MAT so far today. the tv weather says no rain or snow through the weekend.

-tk...The Cheney crew turned the police away when they learned about the accident.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:21 AM

Ummm...der...I'm not familiar with that method.... :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 08:17 AM

Heh heh...neither am I ;)

Maybe in about 4 weeks (I pulled that from toward the back of the book)

Morning Toni......How're you today?

Gotta get ready for school soon.

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 8:22 AM

yes, I used to post happy trails quite often when I would sign off.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:22 AM

yes, I used to post happy trails quite often when I would sign off.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:23 AM

Posted by: pix at February 17, 2006 8:24 AM

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seems like that's the only effort they make "to curb malicious comment posting by abusive users"

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:25 AM

Morning -tk. That math question was not easy for me but I am not good at that kind of math.

Was a full charge bookkeeper for awhile but that is straight math...no algebra, geometry, or calculus.

Good luck on your test!!

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 8:28 AM

the substitution method? isn't that a birth control method?

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:28 AM

oh, I didn't answer -tk's question about school...doing pretty well. keeping up and learning alot.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:29 AM

Good Morning Toni! :) Oh man, I laughed so hard at that Sharp Edged Sign, sign from the email... thanks for that!

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:32 AM

Shell...just sent you an email re your question yesterday. Couldn't answer on the blog.

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 8:36 AM

I saw an interesting new book at work yesterday called:

"The Search, How Google and Its Rivals Rewrote the Rules of Business and Transformed Our Culture" by John Battelle. It had a chapter about google and the government.

*

This ex cia guy on DN is talking about how the gov't/cia tried to break the code of human consciousness....his name is Alfred McCoy.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:37 AM

ok. I'm going to get back to bed. 3 hours isn't enough for the day.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 8:38 AM

Was a full charge bookkeeper for awhile but that is straight math...no algebra, geometry, or calculus.

Good luck on your test!!

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 08:28 AM

Thanks...and thanks to CB - good luck with the computer stuff...

Also Toni - know that you're a pretty big advocate of "getting involved"

I also know this is not "all about me"

But...

Went to a fund raiser for a homeless shelter a couple weeks back...My states AG was there - met him and asked about the possibility of internship

He passed me off to his "chief of staff" but I had a nice, informal, "interview of sorts" with her for about 30 mins....we shall see

It should be clear that I am not the most liberal here (except for most, if not all social causes) Still, I notice you post a lot of [working from the inside - ideas]

Maybe this will pan out and I could work a little from the inside...

Well, with that said - time to shower and head to school...

All, please, have great days ;)

Posted by: -tk at February 17, 2006 8:40 AM

Ok Toni...I was just curious...

*

You were a bookkeeper..? Was that by hand or with computers when you did that?

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:40 AM

Kubark

The man said read the footnotes.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:41 AM

yes, I used to post happy trails quite often when I would sign off.

Posted by: ۞ÇħűБъÿ¤ßűБъå,۞ at February 17, 2006 08:23 AM

I remember .... I always thought that was cute.

Have a good sleep. :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:46 AM

I have come to the opinion Ken that a culture based primarily on 'knowledge' as the western dominated world is, brings us to a situation where if we don't have a Master's degree we have Masters. It is a world where you join 'clubs' to attain 'degrees'. A world of secret handshakes and ritual. A world that uses knowledge to divide mankind.

I have also come to the opinion that our western culture, is the culture that through free will continue to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and thus try to fulfill the divine script.
Also the ‘west’ in ancient times was seen as where your enemies resided because that is where the sun appeared to die each evening.
Thus the significance of being reborn each morning in the east which is metaphorically and esoterically associated with the Left Hand path which is dominated by right brain behaviours which are tuned to the cycles of the earth which is represented by the metaphorical Tree of Life.
The Tree of Knowledge however represents the Right Hand Path which of course is dominated by the Left Brain.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:47 AM

And like the two trees that are apparently separate, their roots are entwined not unlike the synapses of the mind. Yes Eden exists in the mind. The Exodus from Egypt is another metaphor symbolized by the breaking of the two tablets of stone. This breaking of the two tablets by the patriarchal Moses represents man's departure from cultures that marked the passage of time by inscribing their history in stone.

Moses and his kin were also instrumental in developing the alphabet and writing.

Writing on paper has never had the archival qualities of stone. Namely that of a Truth preserved.

And may I add bits and bytes easily manipulated in “manufacturing modern consent” does not have the archival truth that is revealed on paper which itself is prone to a re-writing of HIStory.
This is why the Judaeo-Christians through HIStory have a habit of destroying the temples or building directly over the temples of their conquered foe.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:48 AM

Good Morning..

It is going to be a Happie Winter Doggie Day..

The sun is shining on War Dogs World..

You know politics is just like business..

To be successful you have to understand people..

How the think and how they act..

Why they do the things they do..

If you understand people, I am talkin about other people not yourself in your own tiny world..

You can predict what they will do in most any situation..

That ability to predict outcomes is what generates success in business and politics..

Some call it a gift...

Others a learn skill..

But without it you are just lost..!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 8:49 AM

A wonderful modern day example would be in Iraq…Fallujah the Muslim Holy City destroyed by the U.S.

So the Exodus from Egypt rich in ‘inscribed history contained in stone’ is simply mankind erecting a culture based on a foundation of pursuing knowledge.

Is not knowledge power?

More proof of the mythical Exodus (a huge event according to the Hebrew scholars) is that the Egyptians in their history inscribed and preserved in and on and of stone does not mention the ‘Exodus’.

So this duality, this entering “the field of pairs and opposites” is seen all throughout scripture. The two tablets of stone, pairs of animals on the Ark, two Trees in Eden, Adam and Lilith and then Adam and Eve.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:49 AM

You were a bookkeeper..? Was that by hand or with computers when you did that?

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 08:40 AM

Back in the 60's...was all by hand and brain, no computer.

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 8:50 AM

And if we apply the philosophy of Pythagoras, Socrates and Plato “that the universe extends as a pattern extending from the microcosm ( inner universe / quantum realm ) to the macrocosm (outer universe / relative realm ) we see a pattern of apparent pairs or opposites.

Take the most abundant element in the Universe, hydrogen.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:51 AM

It is a God.

It is a hermaphrodite God.

It is the only element that does not have a nucleus.

When it is split a graven image is produced.

You have a proton and a neutron.

You have a + sign and -sign representing this duality.

However prior to the split both yang and yin energies were in balance contained within the Tao. This balance could simply be represented by respectively placing the + over the - sign, both contained within a circle, O.

Some individuals will also immediately recognize that the cross within the circle has manifested itself into the cross-hairs through which we observe the inner and outer universes using respectively the microscope and the macro/telescope.

All scopes are instruments used by man to help him use the domination of Left-Brain thought to dissemble and reassemble the Creation. All scopes even the scopes of weapons helps man in this task. And the fact contained with the cross are all the mathematical computations necessary for a fallen mankind full of pride and ego to alter the Creation.

The profound truth is revealed by this question.
How can the unbalanced mind of man possibly see the big picture through the narrow focus of his ‘scopes’?

So we have arrived at one of the most pre-historic symbols in the cellular consciousness of mankind, the equal-armed cross-contained within the circle. From this template all solar crosses and the crucifix were born.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:52 AM

I am sure that by now you have read the poll on how folks view Cheney's Hunting Accident..

Only 27% of Americans believe that the recent hunting accident involving Dick Cheney raises serious questions about his ability to serve as Vice President.

27% take the radical view..

Shocking?

That leaves a huge 73% who don't give a shit or say "just one of those very embarrassing things that happens to all of us"

You know in the end, Cheney may well be viewed as a sympathetic figure..!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 8:54 AM

Be back in awhile, taking grandson to school. Temp toaday is 15, with wind chill below zero.

Later

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 8:55 AM

Back in the 60's...was all by hand and brain, no computer.

Posted by: toniD at February 17, 2006 08:50 AM

I always liked that paper that bookeepers/accountants use...I forget the name of it....like graph paper..that's not it though.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 8:56 AM

eya gang!

heard you all

talking in my dreams.

(boy you guys are noisy!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 8:57 AM

Quote:

I'm not convinced the left is always associated with the feminine in India iconography. Here's why. Icons of the standing Amitabha have the right hand raised and the left extended, both with forefinger and thumb forming circles. The raised right had signifies the pole of bodhi or awakening, itself feminine (as is sophia in the west), while the left hand/arm is extended out into the world, the masculine role of activity - in this case as karuna (badly rendered and misunderstood when given away as "compassion" ) - it's roots are in sunyata (emptiness, another feminine noun, an abstract substantive from sunya, meaning among other things "womb"); however, karuna is defined as upaya, skilled means or (as Bob Thurman and I independently came up with in 1990) "liberative arts".

That amitabha figure maintains that expression way through china to korea and japan.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:57 AM

My interpretation here because the Two Trees are so significant in the Western theology and of course they must represent the two earthly axis.
We have one Tree representing the North to South polarities and another Tree representing the West to East rotation of the earth.

Which represents which do you think?

Now thinking of the Amitabha I believe the arms are representing the axis.


Outstretched arm would be the west and east axis.
The other pointing upward is of course representing the north and south polarities.

But you can also make quantum leaps by opening your mind to the patterns which seem all to be transparencies that we can simply place over one another and by applying a little ‘light’ we have revealed to us above, in the stars an intelligent design, a creation.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 8:59 AM

So who is it who stands to lose the most from the dust-up over Cheney..??

You got it..

The Loony Left..

This is an election year..

A rather important one..

Folks who make radical claims that the general public see as unfair have a real problem come election time..

That is why Hillary has been tryin her hardest to move to the center..

She must distance herself from the Democrat Left..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 8:59 AM

Yes that outstretched arm does represent Sophia in the west, she has company however as Gaia symbolically also resides there.

Sophia was the consort of Yahweh she thus opposed Yahweh in the East. Both share and are on the same axis. These two forces help rotate the earth in an apparent west to east rotation. This rotation is the force necessary to propel the earth which is a ‘wave’ along its path. Yahweh in the East is Nuclear Strong opposed by Gravity in the West.

The North to South axis controls the amplitude of that wave. The polarities control the amplitude.
In the North we have Electromagnetism and in the South is where Nuclear Weak resides.

They share the same axis that science has combined into one force called Electro-Weak.

Is it the axis mundi? The axis where the polarities coming together overcoming the natural tendencies of the poles repelling each other, overcoming our inner dragons lying at those gates, the lessons, the trials and tribulations, the pain and suffering.

All life comprises an element of pain and suffering...this is a Noble Truth.

Now if you have truly followed my train of thought, my logic and reason with quantum leaps of understanding and insight, you will slowly see an unfolding of the creation.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:00 AM

we have a government that answers to no one, including the American people, and if you trust that by answering to no one, they have your best interest in mind, well then my friend you're a fool.....

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at February 17, 2006 9:00 AM

And we know the Judeao-Christians have revealed to them in scripture a linear model of time and history, a beginning (Genesis) and an end (Apocalypse).

The passage of time as measured on earth is revealed and calculated primarily by the cycles of the sun, earth and moon. The sun (father) and earth (the son) and the moon (the holy ghost/spirit) are thus revealed to us as a trinity, a dominant pattern contained within the tapestry of God’s masterpiece, his/her version of the Sistine Chapel created and on display every night in the heavens.

But there was another ‘Son’ who is presented to us in the stars. Mankind has used the stars primarily to record time through the millenniums. This ‘star’ and his ‘second coming’ can thus be seen and measured using the stars.

I love this stuff.

Ken would you consider that an autodidactic rant?


Raphael

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:01 AM

So as we put the Great Cheney Debate to bed..

We need to remember that the American People are always fair..

Personal Attacks are not the key to success..

Issues, Policy, and Plan..

Those are the keys to success..!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:02 AM

Good Morning SJ... :) How's your baby girl this morning?

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:04 AM

Victory...take that, you pacifist surrender monkeys!

The Bush administration helped derail a Senate bid to investigate a warrantless eavesdropping program yesterday after signaling it would reject Congress's request to have former attorney general John D. Ashcroft and other officials testify about the program's legality. The actions underscored a dramatic and possibly permanent drop in momentum for a congressional inquiry, which had seemed likely two months ago.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:04 AM

Air America is already being paid by advertisers for it's programming, but
that isn't enough for them. They have to increase their income stream by
now charging for access to their audio, whether it is streaming or
downloads. Unless you have XM sat radio, which is fee based you are not
going to be able to listen to them (beginning this month) until you pay
the fee. A week ago they took Mike Malloy off of the main station in NYC
and chalked it up to economic expediency and this week they announced
their new premium service which requires a fee for anything you listen to.
You can pay yearly or by the show. That insures also that they will be
preaching to the choir. Nobody else is going to pay. And neither am I.

And neither will anyone who is on a limited income, like retirees or the
underemployed and unemployed. I think they shot themselves in the foot -
but I didn't think they would last anyway. The name of their programming
could be better titled "rant radio" than Air America, which is kind of
ironic since Air America was the name of the CIA's airforce during the
Vietnam War. Screw them. There is a lot of good radio available for
download that won't cost you anything.

Where they are carried by Clear Channel Radio [that right wing network]
they are on free-advertiser supported radio, so they are still withing
listening range in some markets - but they have also been dropped from
many of those markets this last year and this year. I hear
the death knell. People have voted with the ratings which aren't there
and the stations owners who really decide. Their best bet was to keep it
free and podcasted (for free) and they got greedy. There are other ways to
increase income without sticking it to their most loyal fans. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:05 AM

doggerz "key to success"

makes me want to confess

that the key is sleaze

most people believe

and there is no such thing as "excess"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:07 AM

morning A. & Sunny-J......

blessings this morning.......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at February 17, 2006 9:07 AM

Air America needs to money to pay for Al Frankin's bloated salary ($3,000,000 next year)

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:09 AM

AWAKE

Posted by: Brian Gerlach at February 17, 2006 9:10 AM

eya A.

good morning!

Ruzzer up, out, drained

and asleep with Bgurl in bed.

still very stiff but warmed up quicker!

made it up the back stairs on her own as well!

(hope we're over the hump on this mystery ailment)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:11 AM

Blessings to you too 13ben...

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:11 AM


From Apple's Music Store, podcasts section:

The Al Franken Show
Al Franken

Customer Reviews (9 Total)

This one is dead. Al hasn't updated a podcast since August.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:13 AM

repeating

During the past five years the U.S. economy has stagnated.

Even though the overall economy appears to be growing (4.2% this time last year), American families are suffering losses.

This occurs in three areas:

1. Job Security 2. Savings 3. Median Income

Without circulation of money into the middle-class, “supply side” Keynesian theory of Economics does not work.

Economic growth is not steady, nor strong as you think.

Household net worth is at an all time high, but mortgage rates are the highest in two months.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert has shown a total disregard for procedures, while the cronyism is evident at the top by Attorney General Gonzales, disregarding powers to check an executive for “negligence”. Maybe AG McNulty will do better.

Inflation with these out of control spending habits, including productivity growth at an averaging of 3.4 percent annual rate for the past half-decade, will only worsen.

Prosperity is going away. The U.S. economy looks closer to another “Great Depression”, than a five year recession. It may not look stagnate, but to Americans…97% of them…it is.

The worse is yet to come, as the “death squads” of secular violence continue. Middle-East tensions rise…and the hegemony of the totalitarian regime of Bush re-ignites the Cold War.

“FBI officials have said the Abramoff investigation ‘involves systemic corruption within the highest levels of government…In light of your previous service as White House Counsel and your close connection to many Administration officials, the appearance of conflict looms large.” The attorney general “can avoid any appearance of impropriety by recusing himself,” said Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, one of the signers of the letter. “If there was ever a case that was both sensitive and rife with potential conflict — it is this one.”

Posted by: -B at February 16, 2006 07:08 PM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:13 AM

Iran still remains the number one threat in the world..

The Saddam Tapes spell out the exactly the kind of attack one could expect from a Sponsor of State Terrorism with Nukes...

=======================================================================

Pentagon works on Iran blitz blueprint

PHILIP SHERWELL

Washington, Feb. 12:

Strategists at the Pentagon are drawing up plans for devastating bombing raids backed by submarine-launched ballistic missile attacks against Iran’s nuclear sites as a “last resort” to block Tehran’s efforts to develop an atomic bomb.

Central Command and Strategic Command planners are identifying targets, assessing weapon-loads and working on logistics for an operation, the Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

They are reporting to the office of Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, as America updates plans for action if the diplomatic offensive fails to thwart the Islamic republic’s nuclear bomb ambitions. Tehran claims that it is developing only a civilian energy programme.

“This is more than just the standard military contingency assessment,” said a senior Pentagon adviser. “This has taken on much greater urgency in recent months,” he added.

The prospect of military action could put Washington at odds with Britain which fears that an attack would spark violence across the West Asia, reprisals in the West and may not cripple Tehran’s nuclear programme.

But the steady flow of disclosures about Iran’s secret nuclear operations and the virulent anti-Israeli threats of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has prompted the fresh assessment of military options by Washington.

The most likely strategy would involve aerial bombardment by long-distance B2 bombers, each armed with up to 40,000 lb of precision weapons, including the latest bunker-busting devices.

They would fly from bases in Missouri with mid-air refuelling.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:15 AM

Posted by: pix at February 17, 2006 9:15 AM

eya 13ben!

blessings backatcha!

nice and clear here, cold too.

ruzzer gave me kisses this morning.

recently her and Jaxxor snuggling

him under, her on top of the

blankets, Bgurl in the

middle, all of them

snoozing now...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:16 AM

REPEATING

Wins in Virginia and New Jersey: A seven million dollar investment in these two crucial contests produced two new Democratic governors. Governors Tim Kaine and Jon Corzine will continue to benefit from the long-term investments made in these states, and their wins signal that Democrats can and will win elections everywhere. In a signal of things to come, Democrats also picked up two seats in the Virginia legislature in post-November special elections -- seats that had been held by Republicans.

Wins at Every Level of Office: In addition to these high-profile Democratic victories, historic down-ballot victories in Arizona, Minnesota, West Virginia, New Hampshire and Alabama are another early indication that Gov. Dean’s plan to reinvigorate state parties with organizers will provide Democratic victories up and down the ballot in 2006, 2008 and beyond. In Tucson, Arizona, Democrats took back the city council by defeating two Republican incumbents. In Minnesota, two Democrats won seats in the state Senate elections that Republicans had held for over a decade. We also elected mayors in West Virginia and Alabama, including the first African-American mayor of Mobile, and won seven of eight special elections for the New Hampshire state legislature.


Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 01:00 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:17 AM

Focus On Our Core Values

Never Backing Down: Governor Dean has lived up to Martin Luther King, Jr.’s call to never remain silent about the things that matter. From the failed management of the war in Iraq to the moral crisis of 45 million people without access to healthcare, he has shown honesty and backbone and encouraged more Democrats to do the same.

A Clear Agenda: Working with other party leaders, we have created and begun to communicate a clear agenda for change:

Honest Leadership and Open Government -- We will end the Republican culture of corruption and restore a sense of responsibility to elected office, and we will pass fundamental reforms that make government more honest, open, and accountable to the American people than ever before.

Real Security -- We will protect Americans at home by getting serious about homeland security, and address the real threats abroad by capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and focusing on actual (not imagined) nuclear proliferation. We will be prepared for the threats of tomorrow, and we will always tell the truth to our troops and the American people.

Jobs in America that will Stay in America -- We will keep good jobs from leaving and ensure that every job in America is a fair deal. We will balance the budget, ensure that the tax code is simple and fair, and create jobs by making America energy independent.

A Strong Public Education System -- We will strengthen our nation’s public schools to restore opportunity and optimism for every American.

A Health Care System that Works for Everyone -- We will join every other industrialized country by making sure everyone has access to affordable health care. We will change a corrupt, inefficient system into one that makes sure the world’s wealthiest country is also the healthiest.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at February 17, 2006 01:07 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:18 AM

In your Dreams, Condi

Confronted by ABC's George Stephanopoulos with the news that fiery Moqtada al-Sadr, whose Mahdi militia has twice engaged in fierce armed conflict with U.S. troops since the 2003 invasion, was the kingmaker in the selection of Iraq's next prime minister, Rice replied sanguinely, "Iraq is a complex place, there's a lot of voices."

But as Stephanopoulos pointed out, the voice in question has been raised to offer military support to Rice's nemeses, Syria and Iran. In Syria, al-Sadr pledged to fight in "the defense against our common enemies," the United States, Britain and Israel. Visiting Tehran, he offered the support of Iraqi fighters in the event of an attack by the United States over the issue of Iran's nuclear program, stating unequivocally, "If neighboring Islamic countries, including Iran, become the targets of attacks, we will support them."

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Okay, here's a guy who has told Syria that he shares common enemies with him: Israel, the USA and Great Britan. War Dog says Sadr has no power.

Why can't we just arrest or kill him if he has no power, Dog? We know right where he is!

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 9:18 AM

doggerz "key to success"

makes me want to confess

that the key is sleaze

most people believe

and there is no such thing as "excess"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 09:07 AM

========================================================================

I think just the opposite..

Political excess is just what they saw the last 5 days..

Not sympathy and understanding..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:18 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 09:11 AM

That's great news, hope she continues the upward turn.

*

Hey just a small thing, but if you buy honey, make sure you look at the ingredients. They are selling stuff that looks like honey and is called honey, but then you look at the MICRO printed ingredients and they're Sugar, Corn Syrup and Honey is third.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:18 AM

The wind is roaring

Grass sparkles and looks so sharp

Soon there will be snow

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 9:19 AM

By all accounts, it would appear the House of Representatives will soon be back in control of the Democrats.

The tyranny of the Bush regime will be checked at least until 2008, when the real Justice Department begins jurispudence again.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:20 AM

---

*good vibes for ruzz*

---

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 9:22 AM

Nobody's lost here.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:23 AM

dogger is a fool

easily lead but uncool

with greed as his rule

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:24 AM

eya Waiting for Cicero!

tanks WfC, and good morning )

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:26 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 09:18 AM

Morning Fish! ♥

I saw that story this morning...that stupid Condi should really shut her yapper...she's banging on Venezuela's door too...

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:27 AM

The Senate voted 96-3 yesterday to end the Democrats' filibuster of the Patriot Act. Once the handful of Republicans who had given the Democrats cover reached a deal with the admininstration, the fiibuster collapsed. Even Harry Reid--"We killed the Patriot Act!"--voted for cloture, in what must have been a humiliating reversal.

One of the three holdouts was Robert Byrd, whose opposition to the Act should be a key issue in his troubled reelection campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:29 AM

Looking for the big cap rally

Despite encouraging signs, the market's big Kahunas haven't staged a big run in '06 yet. What gives?

By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com

February 17, 2006: 7:06 AM EST


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - The Dow industrials are near 4-1/2 year highs -- both good and bad news for those betting that the long-lagging big-cap stocks are due for a comeback.

The big-caps -- stocks with a market value of $5 billion or more -- have lagged their small- and mid-cap brethren for five years, most notably during the more than 3-year-old bull market, and some market analysts have been calling for that to change this year. (See chart).

Near the end of last year, widely watched benchmark for smaller stocks, the Russell 2000 index, was at an all-time high.

But the Dow Jones industrial average -- the barometer of 30 big blue chips and the world's most widely followed market average -- was back where it had been 4-1/2 years ago.

As analysts looked ahead to 2006, many were betting the economy would slow and that big-cap stocks would take on leadership roles in the market, while small- and mid-cap stocks might slow down.

So far, no dice.

"At the end of the fourth quarter, there were signs of large cap outperforming, but then it reversed early in 2006," said Grace Fey, a large-cap growth fund manager at Frontier Capital Management.

That's partly because small caps tend to be strong in the first part of the year. But it's also due to the resilience of energy stocks this year, which keep thriving even as oil and gas prices have retreated. A big portion of energy stocks are mid-caps, with fewer small- or large-caps in the sector.

The Amex Oil index hit an all-time high in late January and so did the Russell 2000. Since then both have declined modestly, but many market analysts say they'll resume their advance.

Beyond energy, large caps have been stuck in a range in recent years due to slower earnings growth and questions about valuation, said Fey, while the smaller names have generally seen faster earnings growth, which in turn has boosted their stocks.

With the big stocks still stuck early this yea

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:31 AM

Hiya Jim!

Good morning to you, too!

Still night for me, haven't been able to sleep so far.

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 9:32 AM

con't

With the big stocks still stuck early this year, they've now lagged for so long that momentum players and others are skeptical of them.

Ram Kolluri, chief investment officer at Global Value Investors, said he thought small and mid caps were more likely to provide a "sweet spot" for investors this year than large caps.

But not everyone's counting the big stocks out for 2006.

"There's this almost universal sense that we're in this big cap-ex spending cycle and the big stocks should be moving on that, but they haven't been," said Ken Tower, chief market strategist at CyberTrader, referring to a boost in corporate capital spending that's expected this year.

That's one reason that the large caps may still be contenders this year.

Earnings and valuations

Fey said her current portfolio has the best earnings potential in a long time and the best valuation in 15 years. She said her portfolio points to estimated earnings growth of 19 percent in 2006. The S&P 500 is currently expected to grow earnings by 12 percent in 2006 versus a year ago.

Of her holdings, she especially likes Cisco and Texas Instruments in the tech sector, healthcare issues such as UnitedHealth and Novartis, the brokerage and investment bank firm Morgan Stanley and Nike, among retailers.

Ben Halliburton, chief investment officer at Tradition Capital Management, also finds some big-cap stocks attractive. He said his firm has bought 3M, Coca-Cola and Wal-Mart over the last three months, names that were in favor in the late 1990s and haven't been since.

But the apparently attractive prices for those stocks relative to earnings perhaps should be taken with a grain of salt, said Manny Weintraub, managing director at Integre Advisors.

He said that on one hand, companies such as Intel and General Electric look like they offer a good value relative to 2006 earnings forecasts. Both companies have P/E ratios that trade around 17 times 2006 earnings, while the Russell 2000 trades at 22.6 times 2006 earnings.

Yet, the low valuations are based on earnings estimates that he says are risky.

"Companies like Tyco, Microsoft and Intel are giving full-year est

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:32 AM

Why can't we just arrest or kill him if he has no power, Dog? We know right where he is!

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 09:18 AM

==========================================================================

What did he do now..

Talk..??

You sound like Chubby..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:33 AM

Twilight begins at 6am

Jupiter now rises with Scorpio

Venus, the Morning Star will guide your dreams and mine.

Then as the sun begins at 7:30 am...

That waning moon will slowly fade into the morning.

Then.

You will awake.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 01:23 AM

Posted by: Ruta Vega at February 17, 2006 9:34 AM

con't

"Companies like Tyco, Microsoft and Intel are giving full-year estimates that require the second half to be better than the first half," Weintraub said. "And that's not so much because of expectations about when the economy turns, but reasons related to product launches and other developments."

He said he thinks the mid-cap space may offer better values, especially since the sector is more likely to have companies that could be targets for takeovers, especially by private investor groups -- a trend that's has been heating up for some time.

Even if the small- and mid-cap groups continue to perform well, large U.S. companies could still benefit in 2006 from any waning interest in international stocks and funds, which have surged in the last few years and may be losing some of their luster, said Tradition Capital's Halliburton.

"We're seeing fewer opportunities in the international space than we have over the last few years," Halliburton said. "I think the opportunities this year are definitely more so in U.S. stocks."


source: http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/17/markets/stocks_bigcap/index.htm?cnn=yes

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:35 AM

Posted by: actor212 at February 17, 2006 9:35 AM

Just curious.....


While you guys were in heated discussions over how "drunk Cheney was when he tried to kill Harry Whittington".....

Anybody notice that Reid & Schumer screwed over Paul Hackett (while Dr Scream was "out of the loop" and oblivious).....or that the Patriot Act was re-authorized with only 2 Dems and Jeffords opposing it?


Sorry to interrupt.....let's download the mp3 of "Cheney Got a Gun" some more!

Posted by: Gare at February 17, 2006 9:35 AM

Poor, Sad, Sunny..

Forever lost in the fog of conspiracy..

You look for the most complex answers to simple human problems..

That leads you to make the same mistakes repeatedly..

Simplify..!!

Let the facts lead you to answers..

Don't bend the facts to fit your conclusions..

This stuff is easy to understand...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:38 AM

ya

i just get up and do stuff.

swept and mopped the kitchen floor already

coffee done, thinkin about brekkers

and brought Bgurl the paper.

love these frosty

mornings and

the morning

stars.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:38 AM

Posted by: Gare at February 17, 2006 09:35 AM

I noticed Cheney and the other two things you mentioned.

What is your point?


You aren't gonna get an argument from me that the Dems don't suck.

However, the Reps suck worse.


Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:41 AM

Poor, Sad, Sunny..

(snicker! i can tell this'll be a doozy)

Forever lost in the fog of conspiracy..

(he's denying the facts on the bush crime family)

You look for the most complex answers to simple human problems..

(dogger does'nt read or do research well)

That leads you to make the same mistakes repeatedly..

( he gets pissed that i "bust" him frequently)

Simplify..!!

(dogger speak "don't blow my cover with facts")

Let the facts lead you to answers..

(just don't use all of them)

Don't bend the facts to fit your conclusions..

(like he does)

This stuff is easy to understand...

(stupidest most ignorant thing he's said this morning)

Posted by: War Dog at February 17, 2006 09:38 AM


(ummm... think you got "outcomes" all over yer shoes bud)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:46 AM

Am enjoying the morning here, Jim.

Time to throw a log on the fire and get some shut-eye soon, though.

Enjoy the day!

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at February 17, 2006 9:46 AM

Let me see if I can translate this for the lower middle clas who don't invest, let alone trade.

The Russell 2000 index...is an index based on companies whose stock market value is less.

When you create a stock market portfolio, one of the ways to balance it (apart from how long you intend to keep it, meaning your relative age compared to say...somebody ready to retire) is to watch the price to earnings ratio.

What this means is that as we go deeper and deeper into a situation of "deficit spending", while the prime lending rate goes up, then our economy is without a doubt, slowing down. This pressure leads to misinformation like productivity numbers, but also the big one...inflation misinterpretation.

Stock portfolio managers therefore look to a time when the DOW will once again rise.

So they can start to change their client's portfolios back to big caps.

This is the problem.

It's not going to happen.

So what is up is down.

And deception is the business journalist's order of the day.

And you get nothing but profit taking in the short term.

Stocks spike. The big fish make a profit.
Retirees like Enron employees...get the Bush "Alfred E. Neuman" grin.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 9:46 AM

HEADLINES: Bush Fails To Prevent East Coast Blizzard - Minorities Hit Hardest

WASHINGTON: As President Bush and his staff cowered in the White House, the snow continued to pile up on the many poor and African American victims who could not afford to get out of town or to safety in Florida. Crucial supplies of blankets, hot cocoa, popcorn and dark rum - so essential to surviving the stress of any major snowstorm - lay in stores undelivered.
 
"Where is the government? I need my sidewalk shoveled so I can get out to buy my damn lottery tickets!" said one D.C. resident from his living room. "Why are we wasting money in Iraq when we could be spending it here on me?"
 
Progressive blogs blasted the President for his inaction. "We find the timing terribly suspicious - just as the Domestic Spying hearings kick into high gear, what happens? A major northeast Blizzard. Why now?" wrote blogger FukAmericaNBush2.

Hearings into the Blizzards' effect on hearings are almost a certainty.  Howard Dean has suggested he will call for an investigation once his new medications kick in and John Kerry took a break from the sporting activities of the glamorous super-rich in the French Alps to call for new 
legislation outlawing snowstorms.

"The Republican Congress has dropped the ball once again. I have always been a staunch supporter of anti-snow legislation, except for certain locations where I ski. Snow has no business on our roads and the President and Congress knows that."
 
Calls for impeachment over "SnowGate" as some are calling it already are mounting as deeply as the snow itself, and what will be discovered underneath will prove to have a truly chilling effect on the Republicans, as the inevitable thaw proceeds.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 9:47 AM

The Deaf, Dumb AND Blind can see the U.S. government is a corrupt piece of wasteful shit.

What's that say about you and WD?

Bah...stop antagonizing me... fuckers.

:)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:49 AM

Some folks here have spent a lot of time talkin about PNAC and Iraq and why the Battle of Iraq was fought..

The new Saddam Tapes give us some insight into Pre-war Iraq..

Was Iraq a threat to the United States..??

Should we have feared Iraq..???

==============================================================================


AZIZ: Sir, the biological is very easy to make. It's so simple that any biologist can make

a germ bottle and drop it into a septic tank and kill 100,000. This is not done by a

state, no need to accuse a state, an individual can do it. Even an American in a house,

close to the White House, I mean, they don't have a logical argument

=============================================================================

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:49 AM

Morning..............Hey A. , You got any good links to peeps like Scott Ritter or Chomsky Audio?

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 9:50 AM

~~~ What did he do now..

~~~ Talk..??

Yeah... just like Saddam talked. Sadr has about half a million direct followers in Iraq, says we're his enemy, and supports attacks against American Soldiers.

We know where he is 24/7/365

Now you answer my question. If he has no power, why is this guy still free and causing us grief?


Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 9:51 AM

I can poke around and see if I find anything, Bob.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 9:52 AM

dogger

you're reccomending

that people do the worst possible things

out of all the choices available for this beleaguered planet.

and you know that and do it anyway.

what goes around comes around

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 9:55 AM

For God's mercy will be poured forth only for a certain time, my son, until the majority of my prophecies are fulfilled and this fulfillment is complete. Then several times in the course of the doleful tempests the Lord shall say: Therefore I shall crush and destroy and show no mercy; and many other circumstances shall result from floods and continual rain of which I have written more fully in my other prophecies, composed at some length, not in a chronological sequence, in prose, limiting the places and times and exact dates so that future generations will see, while experiencing these inevitable events, how I have listed others in clearer language, so that despite their obscurities these things shall be understood: When the time comes for the removal of ignorance, the matter will be clearer still.

So in conclusion, my son, take this gift from your father M. Nostradamus, who hopes you will understand each prophecy in every quatrain herein. May Immortal God grant you a long life of good and prosperous happiness.

Salon, 1 March 1555

Posted by: Quotenstein at February 17, 2006 9:56 AM

Old news but...


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/celebrities/content/local_news/epaper/2006/02/15/a2a_josecol_0215.html

Ballot botch: Coulter votes in wrong precinct
By Jose Lambiet

Palm Beach Post Columnist

Wednesday, February 15, 2006

She may be smart enough to earn millions from her acidic political barbs, but when it comes to something as simple as voting in her tiny hometown, hard-core conservative pundit Ann Coulter is a tad confused.

Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections records show Coulter voted last week in Palm Beach's council election. Problem is: She cast her ballot in a precinct 4 miles north of the precinct where she owns a home — and that could be a big no-no.

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Coulter, who owns a $1.8 million crib on Seabreeze Avenue, should have voted in Precinct 1198. It covers most homes on her street. Instead, records show, she voted in Precinct 1196, at the northern tip of the island.

A fave on the college speaking circuit and the occasional target of cream-pies-to-the-face, Coulter registered as a Republican (no kidding!) with the supervisor's office June 24. That's three months after she bought the home and moved to Palm Beach from Manhattan.

Here's the sticky part for The Right's Lady Macbeth: She wrote down an Indian Road address ins

Posted by: KevinK at February 17, 2006 9:57 AM

Screwed that up.... Try again.

Ballot botch: Coulter votes in wrong precinct
By Jose Lambiet

Palm Beach Post Columnist

Wednesday, February 15, 2006

She may be smart enough to earn millions from her acidic political barbs, but when it comes to something as simple as voting in her tiny hometown, hard-core conservative pundit Ann Coulter is a tad confused.

Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections records show Coulter voted last week in Palm Beach's council election. Problem is: She cast her ballot in a precinct 4 miles north of the precinct where she owns a home — and that could be a big no-no.

Coulter, who owns a $1.8 million crib on Seabreeze Avenue, should have voted in Precinct 1198. It covers most homes on her street. Instead, records show, she voted in Precinct 1196, at the northern tip of the island.

A fave on the college speaking circuit and the occasional target of cream-pies-to-the-face, Coulter registered as a Republican (no kidding!) with the supervisor's office June 24. That's three months after she bought the home and moved to Palm Beach from Manhattan.

Here's the sticky part for The Right's Lady Macbeth: She wrote down an Indian Road address instead of Seabreeze on her voter's registration application. And she signed to certify the information as true.

"She never lived here," said Suzanne Frisbie, owner of the Indian Road home. "I'm Ann's Realtor, and she used this address to forward mail when she moved from New York."

Coulter didn't respond to requests for comment. But the blond GOP pit bull's former agent, Joani Evans, last year told Page Two Coulter left NYC to escape stalkers.

Is a desire to hold on to privacy the reason she gave the wrong address?

"I know but I'm not going to say," Frisbie replied.

No matter, Florida statutes make it a third-degree felony to vote knowingly in the wrong precinct. Lying on a voter's registration can cost up to $5,000 and five years behind bars.

"We're not a policing agency," says Elections Chief Deputy Charmaine Kelly. "You do not have to show proof that you live at your address. But when you sign the registration application, you also take an

Posted by: KevinK at February 17, 2006 9:58 AM

(he's denying the facts on the bush crime family)

The facts..!

I have never seen you show any facts..

I have heard you say you have facts..

30 Years worth of facts..

Facts that would show me what it is you want to prove..

You say you have shown me in the past..

You say there is too much to show..

You say I would not understand..

You don't even say what the crime that you charge..

You talk and talk but don't say anthing to prove a crime..

This stuff is simple..

You have proof of a crime ...

Or you are just typing..

You tell me you are not ready..

When will the time come when you are ready..

This is easy stuff...

A war on families..!!

Great stuff...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 9:59 AM

But when you sign the registration application, you also take an oath that everything you wrote is the truth.

"If someone brings us proof that a person falsified a registration, we'll check into it, then refer the matter to the state attorney's office if necessary."

Posted by: KevinK at February 17, 2006 9:59 AM

Here's what the lower middle class needs to understand about what's going to happen this year.

This is for the people who only count their company's IRA benefits as their Wall Street investment.

A better part of 60% of Americans, I would think, possibly 70%.

George W. Bush is too concerned with price inflation. What this means is...the whole farm is bet on the idea profits to value (actually), will turn the tide, as long as companies don't see their costs dramatically leap. While at the same time, hedging their massive profits in energy, because of the cronyism in DC.

Maybe hedging is a bad word, but basically they believe this will not effect the country, while they steal the national treasury.

Unfortunately, the effects of rising prices on stocks, is outside the realm of "tax breaks". It's more a factor of demand throughout the macro level, so hence some companies don't make stellar profits while others are only so so.

Thias means not all will be stymied by rising prices and in a period of inelasticity like today, with regards to policy makers...

It has a way of stacking against itself more and more, until really...price inflation is inconsequential to the Federal Reserve.

So the downward spiral worsens, as the "stubborness" of the Bush policies continue, while the bond market reflects our asian competition.

Remember.

R&D will not help a hollowed out heavy industrial nation, regardless of energy costs.

We literally, sold out America to overseas interests.

Pure greed by the Baby Boomers.

Tax Cuts being made permanent is the final feather in this one's hat, before the big collapse.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:00 AM

How are things in your weirdo world; the land of misfits and malcontents?

What is today's Bush bash?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:01 AM

Bush did it.

A fierce storm system swept across the Midwest moving eastward on Friday, ripping the roof off an Indiana church, pelting Arkansas with hail and cutting power to thousands in Michigan.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:06 AM

dogger speak translation:

it pisses me off that you always outhink me.

i never read what's posted but i'll say i do.

despite people "busting my bullshit" i'll deny that.

i support the "fat cats" unquestioningly.

despite my "outcomes" babble, i never think things through to the consequences.

i enjoy being a pain in the ass here, especially since i can get away with it and theres nothing you can do about it...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:09 AM

JIM, Besides that Resistance MP3, Got any Good audio Links?

Dave got Himself an MP3 Player, Woo Hoo for Dave!

That is like 2020 Technology to him, GOd bless em.

SO I wanna put together quite a compilation,

Maybe Some stuff on the Fed, New WOrld Order, Illuminati, Masons......etc...Or some good Scott Ritter or alike

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:10 AM

That's what the article about caps means...

Companies experiencing strong demand won't be stymied by high prices.

So analysts are watching "big caps" for the good times again.

On the macro level, it's already too late. Real inflation has been uncovered by steady prime rates, since...well...the jobas situation started.

It's like saying...

The Dow industrials are near 4-1/2 year highs...like the way they did in the beginning of that article.

There's some truth to things GDP, but inflation is masked by paper currency in lowered prime rates (relatively).

Hence when the rates were as low as they were in 2000...

The worse thing to do...was deficit spend.

As it were, the country elected a criminal...so...

The rest is history. Who would have foresaw this level of cronyism back then. Pork spending is so bad...that contractors in Iraq were carrying around duffel bags of hard currency.

It's been booty call the last 4 years.

We are stagnate, if you want to say highs...then say it. But the crash is coming.

How did they put it in the

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:11 AM

Seriously, don't blacken the name of cats with that old saying...

"Fat Dogs"....much better. :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:12 AM

Bush did it.

MANILA, Philippines (AP) - A rain-soaked mountainside disintegrated into a torrent of mud, swallowing hundreds of houses and an elementary school in the eastern Philippines on Friday. At least 23 people were confirmed dead, and 1,500 were missing.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:14 AM

I guess I need to say it again..

Crime..

What crime..???

You don't say you disagree with policy..

You say the Whole Bush family is a crime family..

This is an example of why folks do not take the left seriously..

At least you could make up a pretend crime..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:14 AM

eya -B! fuck off punk...

"Pure greed by the Baby Boomers"

Pure greed by everybody involved and sheer ignorance IMO...

you're getting better at this despite

your inability to communicate

or think things through.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:17 AM

SUNSHINE!

How Do I move All my bookmarks to Opera

Then I gotta open that emailee

Cause Opera is better than ie, so Ima gonna Delete ie when ready.......

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:17 AM

Nuclear bombs aren't an option as the Americans need to keep the place habitable for American oil engineers, and the loss of world Iranian oil production simply isn't possible. I remain completely convinced that the talk about the war in Iran is just talk, and Syria is the real target in danger. Scott Ritter thinks that war on Iran is inevitable because John Bolton's speechwriter told him that the speech setting it up has already been written. Think about it. If this is true, would Bolton's speechwriter have told Ritter about it? Isn't it just an obvious trick to fool Ritter into thinking that the target is Iran? The United States isn't going to attack Israel's only possible friend in the Middle East. Besides hiding real American intentions, and keeping the Iranian leadership as radical as possible (moderate Iranian leaders would be a disaster for Israel), the Iran talk helps maintain a high world oil price (gotta keep those Exxon profits up near forty billion a year!).

Posted by: ritter blurb at February 17, 2006 10:17 AM

Beware the ugly people...

Not only are physically unattractive teenagers likely to be stay-at-homes on prom night, they're also more likely to grow up to be criminals, say two economists who tracked the life course of young people from high school through early adulthood.

"We find that unattractive individuals commit more crime in comparison to average-looking ones, and very attractive individuals commit less crime in comparison to those who are average-looking," claim Naci Mocan of the University of Colorado and Erdal Tekin of Georgia State University.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:19 AM

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:20 AM

Yes, the moon set at 9:15am. The winds stop and the cold sets in.

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AWAKE

Posted by: Brian Gerlach at February 17, 2006 09:10 AM

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:20 AM

I've been boning-up on Perazzi 28-gauge shotguns.

I don't know which model number Cheney owns but based on the reported six-pound weight and the purposed design (bird hunting rather than skeet shooting), it seems most likely that it is an MX-28 model.

The prices I have seen are in the $10,000 to $20,000 range depending upon tooling and whether it is new or used, limited edition or not.

I wonder if Fishgrease and dr have as many of these babies stored in their attics as I do?

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 17, 2006 10:20 AM

[Editorial Note:] The US Code for defining an "act of terrorism" is an activity that -- (A) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; and (B) appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping.[End Note]

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:21 AM

you fuck off too dogger.

that's the weeniest whining you've done so far.

you sound like an idiot and act like one as well.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:21 AM

I need strictly audio A. , Now I know you got the Chomsky Mp3s,

SO Dont Hold Out! Dang Nabbit You!

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:24 AM

Pretend is much easier..

But is won't sell at the polls..

This was the mistake you all made in 2004..

Just like Jim..

You felt if you threw mud a the wall long enough..

Something would have to stick..

It didn't work..

Because you had no plan..

Bush sucks is not a plan..

Now we go into the off-year elections..

If the Dems lose more seats we are in trouble..

The Reps are asshole deep in power..

They got there because the Dems have no plan..

Our country works on checks and balances..

By all rights the ship should start to come back to center..

You run off the Fightin Dems..

You make wild unsupported allegations..

But worst of all..

You do not take the Defense of the Untied States seriously..

You have 8 months to show the American people you have a real plan..


Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:24 AM

eya A.

the cat's let

me get away with it,

knowing that i mean well.

i'll put out an offering to

the cat gods to make up for it!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:25 AM

edit

(omit)How did they put it in the

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:11 AM

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You need to recuse your generation, pal. So fuck your mother why don't you, you'll get more pussy that way mookie.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:17 AM

systemic --> spoiled generation

You need to recuse your generation, pal. So fuck your mother why don'tcha, you'll get more pussy that way.

And it's B or Brian, ya' retardo.

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“FBI officials have said the Abramoff investigation ‘involves systemic corruption within the highest levels of government…In light of your previous service as White House Counsel and your close connection to many Administration officials, the appearance of conflict looms large.” The attorney general “can avoid any appearance of impropriety by recusing himself,” said Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, one of the signers of the letter. “If there was ever a case that was both sensitive and rife with potential conflict — it is this one.”

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:26 AM

Seriously, don't blacken the name of cats with that old saying...

"Fat Dogs"....much better. :)

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:12 AM

Yeah!!! What she said!

Posted by: Snuggles, Fluffy and Pretty Girl at February 17, 2006 10:26 AM

you fuck off too dogger.

that's the weeniest whining you've done so far.

you sound like an idiot and act like one as well.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:21 AM

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Details..

All I asked for were the details..

The facts..

I think I have my answer..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:26 AM

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:24 AM

You're the one who gave me the chomsky torrents link I thought...Do you still have that?

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:26 AM

Posted by: for War Dog who loves torture at February 17, 2006 10:26 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:21 AM

He is just using the absurd to deal with the absurdity of the far left here.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:27 AM

Stocks' oil worries

Futures lower as crude continues rebound; disappointing Dell guidance, PPI anxiety also weigh on stocks.

February 17, 2006: 7:51 AM EST


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Stocks could find themselves under pressure from rising oil prices in early trading Friday.

U.S. stock futures were down, indicating a lower open for U.S. markets,

Oil prices rose over the $59 a barrel mark, continuing the rebound after the Venezuelan oil minister said late Thursday that OPEC should look to cut production and rhetoric picked up between France and Iran over Iran's nuclear program.

The March light crude futures contract for NYMEX gained $1.03 to $59.49 a barrel in electronic trading, while the April contract for Brent crude rose $1.30 to $60.09.

Also weighing on stocks will be disappointing outlook from computer maker Dell (Research), which posted better-than-expected earnings after the close but saw its shares slip slightly after hours.

Major markets in Asia closed mixed Friday. Japan's Nikkei lost ground on a higher yen due to expectations that better-than-forecast growth in the Japanese economy will prompt the Bank of Japan to raise interest rates. But that helped some other Asian markets, as Hong Kong's Hang Seng and Korea's Kopsi gained.

Major European markets were slightly higher in early trading.

The government report on inflation on the wholesale level will be the key economic reading Friday. The Producer Price Index is forecast to be up 0.2 percent for January after a 0.6 percent rise in December, according to economists surveyed by Briefing.com. The core PPI, which excludes food and energy, is also expected to post a 0.2 percent rise, although that's higher than a 0.1 percent rise in December.

Treasury prices were little changed, leaving the yield on the benchmark 10-year note around 4.58 percent. The dollar was lower against the yen but up against the euro.

In other corporate news, the Wall Street Journal reported that financier Carl Icahn has given up his plan to seek control of media company Time Warner (Research). Icahn, who leads a group that controls just over 3 percent of the media conglomerate st

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:28 AM

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:28 AM

eya B3

lemme know when yer phone ain't busy.

don't do anything till i guide ya thru it.

getting rid of Internet Exploder will mess up your Operating System

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:30 AM

con't

Icahn, who leads a group that controls just over 3 percent of the media conglomerate stock, apparently won't field a full slate of candidates for the Time Warner board, according to the paper. CNNMoney.com is a unit of Time Warner.


West Wing, CNN...everybody works for Warner...

It's systemic of a generation used to being "entitled" to everything.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:31 AM

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Stocks could find themselves under pressure from rising oil prices in early trading Friday.

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Impeach Bush!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:31 AM

second, that the very highest levels of the Bush Administration, including the President himself, must have planned and/or authorized these activities, and thus are guilty of the crime of "conspiracy to commit torture," an impeachable offense.


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At least we have someone who gives it a try..

Congrats..

But

must have planned and/or authorized

Must..???

Should that not be..

I can prove that they planned and/or authorized?

Because if you have no proof..

Then all you have is another cry of Bush Sucks..

No more.. No less..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:31 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:25 AM

:)


Remember to do the secret cat love chant... :)


:)


I'm tired again. Work was rought this past week..

Oh! SJ, have you heard of these authors before? Sea faring men, and wrote a great trilogy from what I heard from a patron.

Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall. I think it was called Bounty Trilogy.

Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 10:32 AM

Jimmer, GIve Me ten minutes, Then Ill let ya know..


Then if ya want you can give me a call.

Ill have to write it down,cause I aint got a cordless phone peice...........

But No Prob


Thanks A., You Are Swweeeeet

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:32 AM

-Buttfuck u mean...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:33 AM

you fuck off too dogger...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:21 AM

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Sunny J,

It looks like you and I exhaust our store of patience at roughly the same rate?

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 17, 2006 10:34 AM

All I asked for were the details..

The facts..

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Not from this group.

You won't find it here, man.

Not amoung the misfits and malcontents.

Facts are foreign to them.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:35 AM

Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall. I think it was called Bounty Trilogy."

never read it, bet it's a dandy.

(back to my normal pleasant self)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:36 AM

Sunny J,

It looks like you and I exhaust our store of patience at roughly the same rate?


Posted by: Crank Bait at February 17, 2006 10:34 AM

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No one said politics was easy..

You will be put to the test..

You ideas will be tested..

Outcomes will be measured..

This is not easy for some..

If forces one to take real look at their positions..

A lot of folks just don't like to do that..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:38 AM

Like I was sayin'...

One man is not capable of these criminal enterprises.

What happens is we lower the bar, then out standards collectively de-value.

This is sorta what I meant, when I quoted the Oscar Wilde last night.

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"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." - Oscar Wilde

Posted by: B's Negligence at February 16, 2006 11:44 PM

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We know Vice Preasident Cheney committed a felony. Gross Negligence, then with the help of the Secret Service...also obstructed justice.

It was a crime. And my negligence would have seen the punishment due.

But not Cheney.

So we must look at selfishness, not as the individual's desires as Wilde says...but the imposition we expect of others.

And as that imposition collectively all brings us down...in the truths we hold self evident (such as the principles of "equal worth" as John Edwards mentioned), then we become Bush together.

(Selfishness it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.)

It doesn't have to be this way. America has tradition. We are still America indivisible.


Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:39 AM

If forces one to take real look at their positions..

A lot of folks just don't like to do that..

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Peeps in the lunitic fringe are incapable.

The land of misfits and malcontents.

Bush did it.

Impeach Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:40 AM

Oh, it's Brian time again,


you're gonna leave me


I can see that far away look in your eyes

I can tell by the way you hold me darling

Oooh

That it won't be long before it's Brian time

Posted by: Krooner at February 17, 2006 10:40 AM

oh occasionally

i'll rip out someones eye and skullfuck em crankr,

but i'm trying to be nicer in my old age, it keeps

em guessing for one thing. i consider it therapy.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:40 AM

You can attack me..

You can attack Bush..

But how do you attack Outcomes..

You can face up to Outcomes or you can run from them..

If you run from them you learn nothing..

If you can not admit your mistakes you are bound to repeat them..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:45 AM

Anyway...

The market alwys depresses on Friday.

I have no idea when the crash is going to occur.

But the next two quarters are extremely critical.

My feeling is the government of Iraq grapples with a loose coalition of fledgling democratic principles, but impatience with America's misery still creates a long, long burden in their minds.

And it's justified, because the quitters....

Gingrich, Armey, Kasich, Powell, Bush...

These guys envisioned a long, long time in the first place.

And just didn't expect to win a second term, that's all. Now they get to to be "on point".

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:46 AM

oh occasionally

i'll rip out someones eye and skullfuck em crankr,

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Anyone require more confirmation?

You are now in the lunatic fringe.

The land of misfits and malcontents.

Bush did it.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:46 AM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:33 AM

Well y'know...it takes one...to know...one...

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:48 AM

Has Cheney used the "no controlling legal authority" defense yet? Oh, I forgot, that was Algore.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:50 AM

for example

it's obvious that

-Buttfuck and war puppie work

together and for the illuminati evil guys

to insert cryptic cut and paste propaganda into

our brains along with their evil sadistic examples

designed to slowly brain rot us and eventually

lead to our total capitulation to uncurious

George and his minions of evil. they

make my ol tin foil hat "feelers"

quiver with pusillanimousness.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:52 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at February 17, 2006 09:18 AM

Sadr has no control ove the Shia.

Like I said.


Nobody's lost here.

We know what time it is. The Bush Doctrine is a tabled bill.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:54 AM

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - For the second time in three months, a 16-year-old California girl who lost a leg in an accident has had her artificial limbs stolen.

Melissa Huff, an Arcadia High School student who uses a $16,000 prosthetic limb to play softball for the school team and another one, valued at $12,000, for everyday use, said both were taken from her bedroom on Tuesday.

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Bush did it.

Impeach Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 10:54 AM

SJ. GIMME A CALL IN 15, Ill have pen and pad ready!

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 10:54 AM

i'll rip out someones eye and skullfuck em crankr,

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:40 AM

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Years ago I worked with a reformed biker. He was still a biker but no longer a bad-ass biker.

One day he said, "That guy deserves a 'curb stomp'."

I asked (I had to ask), "What's a curb stomp?"

He said, "That's what's done after you have beat a guy senseless. You drag him over to the curb, open his mouth, stick the curb in it and stomp on the back of his head."

It's a graphic image that I haven't been able to forget.

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 17, 2006 10:55 AM

talking in my dreams.

(boy you guys are noisy!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 08:57 AM

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Seek help, buddy.

Posted by: -B at February 17, 2006 10:56 AM

-Buttfuck

is the only

one i know that

buys vaseline in

55 gallon drums monthly.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 10:56 AM

Be back in the next thread.

-l8r

Posted by: Gerlach at February 17, 2006 10:57 AM

-Buttfuck and war puppie work

together and for the illuminati evil guys

to insert cryptic cut and paste propaganda into

our brains along with their evil sadistic examples

designed to slowly brain rot us and eventually

lead to our total capitulation to uncurious

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You know I like you Sunny..

And you are funny..

One day you will thank me for bringing reality to this place..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 10:57 AM

One day you will thank me for bringing reality to this place..

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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

You are in the lunatic fringe.

The land of misfits and malcontents.

Bush did it.

Impeach Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:00 AM

Hello,

Why are we not supporting ALL of the fighting Dems?
I just ran across Col. Andrew Horne's campaign site, and let me tell you...you're all missing a great candidate for the U.S. Congress. I am unable to see where he has been interviewed by MajorityReport, and this is a little unsettling. In Kentucky, we are a 'new' Red State. Our current Bush cronie (Congresswoman) Anne Northup is running for a 6th term of rubber-stamping Neocon policies. We should all do what we can to prevent these people who took this nation into an unnecessary and illegal war from retaining the power that they squander so willingly.

Check'em out: Col. Andrew J. Horne for U.S. Congress

-Chuck

Posted by: -Chuck at February 17, 2006 11:01 AM

yubb crnkr.

i usually resist

the temptation now

that i'm a minister of

the faith, but u never know

when someones teetering on the

edge of a possible catastrophic relapse...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:01 AM

Posted by: Crank Bait at February 17, 2006 10:55 AM

That IS FOR SURE the scariest thing I've seen before as far as violence on tv..

In fact, I was just thinking about that yesterday, because it was on something I was watching for a sec...it's the second time in my life I've seen it on tv...Fucking Gross, and TOO scary!


Posted by: A. at February 17, 2006 11:02 AM

Why are we not supporting ALL of the fighting Dems?

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Paul Hackett??

Who is that?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:03 AM

Because "fighting" is a lame word to call candidates.

Especially offensive to people who are bright enough to know that Fighting doesn't work.

Posted by: Snarky Observer at February 17, 2006 11:04 AM

Thanks for the Chomsky Audio A.

Got any more, Like Ritter.

Or any thing else cool.....

Perhaps some Audio on La Revolucion, or Socialism......

Thanx for the effort. Library Lady.

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 11:08 AM

Greazy Chucky Schumer will decide which candidates to support.

You do not matter.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:08 AM

One day you will thank me for bringing reality to this place..

Posted by: War Dog at February 17, 2006 10:57 AM

OMFG it is too early in the morning for a statement like this!!!! I am trying to eat my breakfast.

Hows our pup Sunny?

Morning Shell, Bob and Cranky :)

Hello chuck, ger and Nono mouse

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:08 AM

One day you will thank me for bringing reality to this place..

Posted by: War Dog

(ha! quit making me laugh asshole! can't you see that you've driven me over the edge to insanity? you inconsiderate son of a bitch! whoa! i'm pissed off now! hope you like walking, cuzz i'm reaching out to all the welfare mothers i know telepathically and they're run around with knives in the moonlight slashing your fucking tires!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:09 AM

HEY DARLENE!!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY DAY to Ya!!!!!

Posted by: Bob26003 at February 17, 2006 11:10 AM

hey Bob check out anything by BIG NOISE films...they are really cool.

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:10 AM

WARDOG made our Sunny mad!

*pours blog tar over wardog*
blog FEATHERS anyone?

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:12 AM

(ha! quit making me laugh asshole! can't you see that you've driven me over the edge to insanity? you inconsiderate son of a bitch! whoa! i'm pissed off now! hope you like walking, cuzz i'm reaching out to all the welfare mothers i know telepathically and they're run around with knives in the moonlight slashing your fucking tires!)

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The lunatic fringe for sure.

The land of misfits and malcontents.

Bush did it.

Impeach Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:13 AM

eya dar,

Ruzzer a bit better finally.

thanks for the positive vibes my friend.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:13 AM

blog FEATHERS anyone?

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:12 AM

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I've got a few around here somewhere...

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 17, 2006 11:14 AM

i'm pissed off now! hope you like walking, cuzz i'm reaching out to all the welfare mothers i know telepathically and they're run around with knives in the moonlight slashing your fucking tires!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:09 AM

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Reality will do that to a guy..

It has a way of poppin up every time..

You can ignore it for a while..

But then pop...

Here it is again..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 11:15 AM

hey Sunny please read about the gluco...it did wonders for pluto...(my old bouvier)

http://www.arthrix.com/

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:15 AM

I've got a few around here somewhere...

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 17, 2006 11:14 AM

hahahaha good one :)

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:17 AM

(hee! war poop was squatting down when i got fed up and whacked em with a rolled up newspaper to "get his attention". now he's chasing me around the bloggie barking "outcomes" "outcomes" in that weird squeeky donald duck voice he does when he's upset. the other troll is yapping away like a dog/parrot cross and getting run over by war pooper every time we run through the kitchen)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:21 AM

thanks Dar,

i hope theres no

permanent damage from

this episode with Ruzzer.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:24 AM

(hee! war poop was squatting down when i got fed up and whacked em with a rolled up newspaper to "get his attention". now he's chasing me around the bloggie barking "outcomes" "outcomes" in that weird squeeky donald duck voice he does when he's upset. the other troll is yapping away like a dog/parrot cross and getting run over by war pooper every time we run through the kitchen)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:21 AM

LMAO...damn I'd like to stay and throw blog stones at him but alas I am off to work....
Scratch the Ruzz for me...just below the left ear...then a little on the right..there...and a kiss of the nose....:)

Hey guys I have access to a several really nice color copiers now...we have to think how to use them...maybe some nice protest posters packets so something.... be thinkin...TTYL love Dar

Posted by: Darlene at February 17, 2006 11:28 AM

Hey guys I have access to a several really nice color copiers now...we have to think how to use them...maybe some nice protest posters packets so something.... be thinkin...

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Bush did it.

Impeach Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:31 AM

hee! war poop was squatting down when i got fed up and whacked em with a rolled up newspaper to "get his attention". now he's chasing me around the bloggie barking "outcomes" "outcomes" in that weird squeeky donald duck voice he does when he's upset. the other troll is yapping away like a dog/parrot cross and getting run over by war pooper every time we run through the kitchen)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at February 17, 2006 11:21 AM

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Well it is time for me to work out..

I hope you all have a Happie Doggie Day..

Keep you eye on the Patriot Act..

And the NSA wiretaps..

Lots of stuff went down while you were hot on Cheney's trail..

Remember the words of Commander Taggert

"Never give up, never surrender!"

OR did they say that to Cindy..??

No matter..

The sun will come up tomorrow..

Have fun before I do..

Wado................................................

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 11:38 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at February 17, 2006 11:41 AM