Whew... Made it.

Boob Cruise!?

What?!!!

boob cruise?! Haddassa! Oy Gvalt.. Now I am verklempt... Its a Shonder!

To review...

Police Found Suspected Bombs In WTC On 9/11

?Police have found what they believe to be a suspicious device and they fear that it may lead to another explosion."

"I spoke with some police officials moments ago, Chris, and they told me they have reason to believe that one of the explosion at the besides the ones made with the planes, may have been caused by a van that was parked on the building that may have had an explosive device in it.?

Thank God it is hour 2. I couldn't stand seeing that propaganda picture of Cheney any more.

The real reason we invaded Iraq was not that Iraq had WMD, but of Peak-Oil. Peak-Oil is the reason we're there and why we will stay. Urge your listeners to research Peak-Oil, and the truth will then emerge!

Ahem...

DUKE CUNNINGHAM BRIBE FIGURE HAS TIES TO IRAN CONTRA DRUG TRAFFICKING

San Diego businessman Brent Wilkes, a key figure in the Randy “Duke” Cunningham bribery scandal—as well as the Justice Department investigation of Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff—worked in Honduras during the 1980’s for a company accused by federal prosecutors of deep involvement in cocaine trafficking.

Howard Dean was right in 2003 and Howard Dean is right in 2005. Once again the Bush sycophants have to attack the messenger. I hope Lowell Weicker runs against Lieberman. Weicker supported Dean's presidential bid. Someone needs to rung against Bush appeaser Lieberman.

war-dog

u ain't even a war-maggot's fart

u're nothing but a boil inside the nose of a saudi sheikh's nose

*

(how ya like them apples, smelly)

Dean is out there by himself..

Has Dean been to Iraq..???

Lieberman has..!!

Ya forgot Obama...!//

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 07:46 PM

so has bush

"now watch this drive"

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 07:50 PM

------------------------------------------------

(the international language barrier swings open for a careening wise-crack)

IRAQ: Strategic City Stabilization Initiative (SCSI)

Submit your own strategy for victory in Iraq

The US Administration is alloting $1,000,000,000 for this GRANT!

......and will be accepting applications December 16th, 2005

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

talk about buying your term paper........sheesh.......

Posted by: Cat Chew at December 6, 2005 07:58 PM

come & sit next to me,

little school gurl

: )

Bush went to Iraq and served the troops a plastic turkey. Just because Bush and Lieberman went to Iraq does not mean they are telling the truth, especially serial liar Bush.

How about we allow torture by the CIA as long as torture is also allowed for indited politicians.

Al has been to Iraq..

Al supports Hillary...

Hillary supports the War..

Howard Dean was right in 2003 and Howard Dean is right in 2005. Once again the Bush sycophants have to attack the messenger. I hope Lowell Weicker runs against Lieberman. Weicker supported Dean's presidential bid. Someone needs to rung against Bush appeaser Lieberman.

Posted by: Frank in NJ at December 6, 2005 08:01 PM

A dirty, foul-smelling, wet dog could beat Lieberman.

What happens when a large airplane slams into a tall building?

Death Toll Now 128 in Iranian Plane Crash

Firefighters managed to put out the fire in the building, which was damaged and charred but still standing. Police cordoned the building and debris field, preventing journalists and a crowd of as many as 10,000 people from getting close to the site. Many in the crowd were screaming, afraid their relatives had been killed. Several hours after the crash, the building still was smoldering.

Wilkes befriended other legislators, too. He ran a hospitality suite, with several bedrooms, in Washington – first in the Watergate Hotel and then in the Westin Grand near Capitol Hill.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051204/news_1n4adcs.html

sex!

The real reason we invaded Iraq was not that Iraq had WMD, but of Peak-Oil. Peak-Oil is the reason we're their, and why we will stay. Urge your listeners to research Peak-Oil, and the truth will then emerge!

#### SAMMER ####

please check this out....

the $1,000,000,000 GRANT to come up with a plan.....

IRAQ: Strategic City Stabilization Initiative (SCSI)

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:01 PM

lieberman has never been to iraq

dean has

Has Dean been to Iraq..???

Lieberman has..!!

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:01 PM

We were all hoping he would remain there too . . . for the duration of the war.

Lieberman and Bush never left the Green Zone during their visits to Iraq.

Is Bush worried about a military coup?

Retired generals and admirals subject to special investigation by Pentagon surveillance/intelligence team. Retired top U.S. generals and admirals planning to attend a December 7 meeting in Pentagon City, an office and hotel complex next to the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, have drawn the interest of a special investigation by special agents of the Department of Defense.

the Bush administration is going to pay one BILLION for a strategy to end the insurgency. I recall the Bush cronies and flaks saying this war would cost only 1.7 billion. Bush lies, troops die.

"Has Dean been to Iraq..??? Lieberman has..!!" --War Dog

Lieberman's ingratiating photo op in the Green Zone -- "been to Iraq" ???

Next he'll go to Disneyland and return with tales of "going to Neverland", "traveling in outer space", and "cavorting with pirates".

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:03 PM

i support ur right to stfu

*exercise it*

trying not to be such a spiteful ass, might just help you with that CANCER mr. Dog $hit.....

Out there by themselves..

-~-~-

Iraq War Resolution - October 2002

77-23 Senate

296-133 House

133 + 23 = 156 NAY'S

156 elected members of our government originally rejected the idea of the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq.

Pelosi and Dean are not alone by far, WaDo.

Just b/c the nay-sayers didn't and still don't get press coverage by the MSM does not mean the voice of dissent isn't there and hasn't ALWAYS been there.

Dean is out there by himself..

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:01 PM

Hes out there all alone with 68% of American public....

war dog or war dirge

BILL CROWLEY IS GAY

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

I often receive emails - pro and con - about my postings on the war in Iraq, and I try to respond to any substantive questions or critiques offered. But when I received an email recently entitled "10 Questions" in response to a Tomdispatch commentary detailing the arguments for immediate withdrawal, I must admit my heart sank - the questions were familiar, but the answers were complex and I was in no mood to spend the time needed to respond properly.

After a couple of days, however, I began to warm to the idea of writing short but pointed responses to these common criticisms of antiwar positions because, I realized, they are the bread and butter of daily Iraq discourse in our country. When the war comes up in the media or in casual conversation, these are the issues that are raised by those who think we have to "stay the course" - and among those who oppose the war, these are the lurking, unspoken questions that haunt our discussions. So here are my best brief answers to these key issues in the crucial, ongoing debate over Iraq.

"I read your article on withdrawal of American troops," my correspondent began, "and questioned the lack of discussion of the following." (His comments are in bold.)

It Bush grinding his jaw during this speech too?

Yes I think the dukster is a unamerican sob. Have no doubt, I wouldn't be surprised if this sob has done this before. Also his votes on the the lie aka Iraq war.

This economy...

FUCKING NEIMAN MARCUS/LEXUS/NEO 3rd World Economy...

LUxuries for the few...

WALMART FOR THE REST... enjoy your cancer, fuck you and smile for the customer or your fired

JAZZ IS DEAD!

Wilkes: The invisible empire

The Duke Cunningham bribery scandal is revealing a connected web of false front companies, some with CIA connections, that look like a revival of the Iran-Contra operations.

//mr. Dog $hit.....//

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 08:07 PM

please, mr. ben

just call him shit

Along with Howard Dean, Scott Ritter was out in front telling the truth about the lying Bush Administration. Ask Scott Ritter what he thinks the USA should do about Iraq and if the USA has plans to invade Iran or any other oil-producing country.

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

1. Nothing was mentioned about improvements in Iraq (elections, water and energy, schools). No Saddam to fear! Water and energy delivery as well as schools are worse off than before the U.S. invasion. Ditto for the state of hospitals (and medical supplies), highways, and oil production. Elections are a positive change, but the elected government does not have more than a semblance of actual sovereignty, and therefore the Iraqi people have no power to make real choices about their future. One critical example: The Shiite/Kurdish political coalition now in power ran on a platform whose primary promise was that, if elected, they would set and enforce a timetable for American withdrawal. As soon as they took power, they reneged on this promise (apparently under pressure from the US). They have also proved quite incapable of fulfilling their other campaign promises about restoring services and rebuilding the country; and for that reason (as well as others), their constituents (primarily the Shia) are becoming ever more disillusioned. In the most recent polls, Shia Iraqis now are about 70% in favor of U.S. withdrawal.

Hi Cat Chew!

Please can I help bury it?

sorry Jazz

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

2. Nothing was mentioned about Iraqis who want the U.S. to remain (especially the Kurds and the majority of Iraqi women). Among the three principle ethno-religious groups in Iraq, the Sunnis (about a fifth of the population) are almost unanimous in their opposition to the American presence, while around 70% of the Shia (themselves about 60% of the population) want the U.S. to withdraw. Hence, even before we consider the Kurds, the majority of Iraqis are in favor of a full-scale American departure "as soon as possible." It is true that the Kurds (about 20% of the population) favor the U.S. remaining. However, they have their own militias and many of them do not want significant numbers of American troops in their territory. (The U.S. presence there is small-scale at the moment.) What they desire is a U.S. occupation for someone else, not themselves. I think we can safely say that the vast majority of Iraqis oppose the presence of U.S. troops.

war-dog

u ain't nothing but a shit-nose

I'm listening a little behind.

Did I hear Sam say that Bu$hCo Inc was between "Iraq And A Hard Place?"

If I did, that was a pretty good one, Samster.

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

3. Nothing was mentioned about the benefits of the U.S. military gaining valuable experience and knowledge daily. Certainly, the U.S. gains military and political "experience" from the war, as from any war, but at the expense of many deaths (2,127) and injuries (at least 15,704) to American soldiers. Beyond these publicly listed casualty figures lie the endless ways in which the lives of our soldiers are permanently damaged: On November 26, for example, the New York Times reported on a recent army study indicating that 17% of all personnel sent to Iraq have "serious symptoms of depression, anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder." Since about a million American troops have now seen service in Iraq, approximately 170,000 have gained the "experience" of having a severe mental problem. Moreover, the war experience in Iraq has proved so demoralizing to the military that many of the best soldiers are leaving at the end of their tours, instead of staying on in active or reserve status. This is undermining the viability of the military, long term.

U.S. casualties, of course, have been dwarfed by the damage done to the Iraqi people. Between 25,000 and 40,000 Iraqi civilians are dying each year - and multitudes are injured. We are wrecking the country's infrastructure.

Certainly there is a better way to gain experience than this.

SAM

dont forget no minimum wage increase in 95 years......

Listen to what Sam is sayin War Dog.

profits up

wages down

economy dies

social unrest

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

4. Nothing was mentioned about the future benefits of a strong democracy in the Middle East. We can all agree that a strong democracy in the Middle East would have huge benefits for Iraq and for its neighbors as well as for the rest of the world. If I thought that our actions there were actually helping to bring this about, perhaps I might also believe that the benefits of an active democracy outweighed at least some of the many problems we have been creating. But from the beginning, the talk of democracy was a hollow mantra, just one of a group of public rationalizations for a war motivated by the Bush administration's desire to dominate Middle Eastern politics and economics. The U.S. government has never actually relinquished sovereignty to the Iraqi government.

Bush still wants to steal your money-I don't think he has really given up on privatizing social security.

Hiya air-ono (maybe later, if you have a fresh pot of coffee). Hiya, "NEWS CONSUMER".

What article is Sam referring to?

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

5. Nothing was mentioned about the future benefits of oil reserves. Though the Bush Administration denies it, many observers agree with you that access to Iraqi oil was a major motivation for the war. But we need to understand the nature of this motivation. Even before the invasion, when UN sanctions were still in place against Saddam Hussein's regime, American oil companies could (and, in many cases, did) buy Iraqi oil at market price. The issue was never "access" to Iraqi oil in the sense of simply being able to buy it. The Bush administration was thinking about other kinds of energy access, including controlling the heartland of the word's main future oil supplies and giving American oil companies privileged access to Iraqi oil reserves. (See, for example, the recent report by the Global Policy Forum). It's my contention that such privileged "access" for U.S. oil companies would not actually help the American people. The oil majors, after all, have a long history of exploiting Americans hardly less ruthlessly than they exploit the peoples of other countries, when they can make a larger profit by doing so. (The latest incident in their long and deplorable record involved the massive price increases they instituted at American pumps almost immediately after hurricane Katrina hit.) Moreover, such privileged access would have deprived the Iraqis of their right to use the oil to their own benefit - something they desperately need now that the Saddam Hussein regime, twelve years of brutal sanctions, and the current war have gutted the country.

The best approach for us (but not necessarily for the American oil companies) would be to buy our oil on the open market, put our research money into conservation and renewable fuels instead of military adventures, and avoid trying to get "control" of something that doesn't belong to us.

This administration and their policies make me want to puke!

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

6. Nothing was mentioned about what fundamentalist Muslims would like to achieve. I assume that, when you refer to "fundamentalist Muslims," you are referring to terrorists, including those in Iraq and those who attacked the World Trade Center, the London tube, and the Madrid trains. First, I have to disagree with this identification of the terrorists (who are indeed fundamentalist) with all fundamentalist Muslims. That would be the same as characterizing those who bombed the Oklahoma City Federal Building as "fundamentalist Christians" and then implying that the destruction of such buildings is what all fundamentalist Christians yearn to achieve.

Second, I disagree with the implicit argument that somehow withdrawal will allow the terrorists to dominate Iraqi society and impose a horrible regime on an Iraq, bent on attacking its neighbors and the United States. A large part of my commentary in favor of withdrawal was devoted to debunking this prevalent idea. I think I made a reasonably good case for the possibility that Bush administration actions in Iraq are creating and strengthening the terrorist groups within the Iraqi resistance. The longer the U.S. stays, the more the Islamic terrorists there are likely gain strength; the sooner the U.S. leaves, the more quickly the resistance will subside, and - with it - support for terrorism. The administration's Iraqi occupation policies are the equivalent of a nightmarish self-fulfilling prophesy.

Al supports Hillary...

~-~-

Ummm... that's not really true, WaDo. Go ahead and post your next innaccurate source.

Do make sure they've got Clinton as a senator from New York and not Minnesota.

yowse'ah, cat

game on

coffee on

SANTA FE, N.M. Dec 6, 2005 — Frederick L. "Dick" Ashworth, the weaponeer aboard the B-29 that dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki, Japan, in 1945, has died at 93.

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

7. Nothing was mentioned about the results of the U.S. evacuation from Southeast Asia (over a million killed within 5 years). I think we need to disentangle two different events involving the (forced) American departure from Southeast Asia. First, there was Vietnam, where it was always predicted that a horrendous bloodbath would follow any American withdrawal. Indeed, there were certainly deaths there after the U.S. left, and many refugees fled the country, some for the United States. But whatever these figures may have been, they were dwarfed by the incredible bloodbath that the U.S. created by being in Vietnam in the first place. Reputable sources suggest that millions of Vietnamese died (and countless others were permanently wounded) during the war years. We must conclude, therefore, that in Vietnam our departure actually resulted in a drastic decline in the levels of violence, and - sometime afterward - an end to the havoc and destruction; not to speak of the fact that, for years now, the United States has had plenty of "credibility" in Vietnam.

Second, there was the holocaust in Cambodia, which may well have resulted in a million or more deaths. This was also, however, a complex consequence of the U.S. presence in Southeast Asia, not a result of our departure. Cambodia had a stable, neutral government until the Nixon administration launched massive secret bombings against its territory, invaded the country, destabilized the regime, and set in motion the grim unraveling that led to the rise of murderous Khmer Rouge. If the U.S. had withdrawn from Vietnam in 1965 or 1968, that holocaust would quite certainly never have happened.

The situation in Iraq is not that dissimilar. If the U.S. withdraws soon, there is at least a reasonable chance that the violence will subside quickly and that peace and stability in the region might ever so slowly take hold. The longer the U.S. stays - further destroying the Iraqi infrastructure and destabilizing neighboring regimes (like Syria and I

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=278
the bush adminstration is so desperate to find wmds in Iraq that they are willing to plant them in Iraq.
I found this out on the 11/30 episode of http://www.innworldreport.net

Listen to what Sam is sayin War Dog.

Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 08:11 PM

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He has me laughin my ass off..

The Numbers are the Numbers..

Spin will not change that..

Ya can't spin the Economy...

WIN ET KA

Oy!

Sam!!!!!

Please mention me......Betty Jo Bieloski...

on the radio!

Every year since Bushes "Family Tax Act" we've fallen into AMT, along with millions of other Americans who should never fall into AMT. It is really horrible and you never, ever hear anyone discussing it, (except Kerry, but nevermind that).

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

Second, there was the holocaust in Cambodia, which may well have resulted in a million or more deaths. This was also, however, a complex consequence of the U.S. presence in Southeast Asia, not a result of our departure. Cambodia had a stable, neutral government until the Nixon administration launched massive secret bombings against its territory, invaded the country, destabilized the regime, and set in motion the grim unraveling that led to the rise of murderous Khmer Rouge. If the U.S. had withdrawn from Vietnam in 1965 or 1968, that holocaust would quite certainly never have happened.

The situation in Iraq is not that dissimilar. If the U.S. withdraws soon, there is at least a reasonable chance that the violence will subside quickly and that peace and stability in the region might ever so slowly take hold. The longer the U.S. stays - further destroying the Iraqi infrastructure and destabilizing neighboring regimes (like Syria and Iran) - the more likely it is that horrific civil wars and other forms of brutality will indeed occur.

Greenspan: U.S. Deficit May Hurt Economy

WASHINGTON - Outgoing Federal Reserve Chairman
Alan Greenspan warned Friday that America's exploding budget deficit and a protectionist backlash against soaring trade deficits could disrupt the global economy.

On a day when he was being honored in London for his nearly two decades in the world's highest profile economic job, Greenspan restated some familiar worries.

He said U.S. deficits are set to soar with the pending retirement of 78 million baby boomers and he suggested that Congress consider trimming

Social Security and Medicare benefits because the government probably has promised more than it can afford, especially in health benefits.

More -

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

What? What he is sayin is real. Wake up man.

Ya can't spin the Economy...

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

but you keep trying...as poverty rises for the fourth year in a row...

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

8. Nothing was mentioned about the reputation of the U.S. if it retreats. Don't forget the quotes about Somalia from Osama Bin Laden. "Cut and Run." Here we agree. If the U.S. withdraws, this "retreat" will undermine U.S. credibility whenever, in the future, an administration threatens to use military power to force another country to submit to its demands (and may also, as after Vietnam, make Americans far more wary about sending troops abroad to fight presidential wars of choice). I think there are two important implications that derive from this observation.

The first is that this has, in fact, already happened. The most crystalline case making this point is that of Iran, whose leaders were much more compliant to U.S. demands before the Iraq invasion than now that they have seen how the Iraqi resistance has frustrated our military. (In fact, the invasion of Iraq has probably done more to strengthen the oppressive Iranian regime, domestically and in the Middle East, than any set of events in the past quarter-century. (See my recent article on this at Tomdispatch.) In other words - from your point of view - the longer the Bush administration stays and flounders, the more it undermines its ability to use the threat of military intervention to force other countries to conform to its demands.

From my point of view - and this is the second implication I want to point out - the undermining of U.S. credibility is one of the few good things that has resulted from the war in Iraq. I do not believe that anything positive is likely to come from American military adventures; quite the contrary, the Bush administration (and the Clinton , earlier Bush, and Reagan administrations) have used military power to impose bad policies on other countries. We would be much better off, I believe, with the multi-polar world that many Americans advocate (and this administration loathes the very thought of), in which no single state (including the U.S.) could impose itself on others without at least the

My grandmother is facing starvation due to a 450/mo natural gas heating bill (5500 per year on income of 18000)

Is Bush worried about a military coup?

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 08:06 PM

: )

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

From my point of view - and this is the second implication I want to point out - the undermining of U.S. credibility is one of the few good things that has resulted from the war in Iraq. I do not believe that anything positive is likely to come from American military adventures; quite the contrary, the Bush administration (and the Clinton , earlier Bush, and Reagan administrations) have used military power to impose bad policies on other countries. We would be much better off, I believe, with the multi-polar world that many Americans advocate (and this administration loathes the very thought of), in which no single state (including the U.S.) could impose itself on others without at least the support of a great many others. We would be far better off in a multitude of ways if our country stopped spending more on its military than the rest of the world combined and started spending some of that money on things that would actually improve the welfare of our people.

What I like about this Progress Media network, called air america...

Is the Progressive Democrat values, like Sam mentioning right now...

Good Stuff.

It's hard to go wrong on Paul Krugman. He's a modern day Upton Sinclair.

But instead of Teddy Roosevelt's Moose Party, we have another four years of George W. Bush Jr's Great Depression.

It's all too little too late.

The Progressives were swamped by trite, pithy, and inconsequential spin doctoring in 2004.

Divisive politics. Red Hot issues.

Howard Dean didn't really help in my opinion. What happened there with Edwards, over the southern pride...that doesn't help.

Does anybody have the article Sam was quoting from?

Good dog. Have a biscuit.

Sam, there's another great soundbite near the end of tonight's Hardball. The former CIA agent that George Clooney's character from Syriana was based on was interviewed by Matthews.

He corroborates General Odom's statement that we were better off having Saddam in a box. You've GOT TO put it on air.

You bunch of losers. You talk about how Howard Dean is being attacked by Bush but have you all ever talked about how Howard Dean has attacked Bush himself? You go on to say that Howard Dean is not an elected offical and is not running for anything. that si also a pile of bull!! Howard is running for something everyday he is head of the Democratic Party so he runs evetryday for office.
PS. Remember we were attacked under Clinton however we really necr did anything about it!!

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

9. Nothing was mentioned about Germany, Japan, Korea, and the former Yugoslavia. Should we get out of those? Where was the pre-war planning to get out of all those locations. Did Lincoln have a pre-war plan to leave the South? I agree that some wars, some interventions, and some occupations can be positive things (without evaluating the particulars of the examples you offer). That does not mean that all, or even most, of them are good. The invasion, occupation, and destruction of Iraq is neither justified, nor moral.

Rumsfeld Says the Media Focus Too Much on Negatives in Iraq

WASHINGTON, Dec. 5 - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday that news media organizations were focusing too much on casualties and mistakes by the military in Iraq and were failing to provide a full picture of the progress toward stabilizing the country.

"We've arrived at a strange time in this country where the worst about America and our military seems to so quickly be taken as truth by the press, and reported and spread around the world, often with little context and little scrutiny, let alone correction or accountability after the fact," he said in a speech at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

His criticism of the press, a theme to which Mr. Rumsfeld returns frequently in public and private statements, came only a few days after the Pentagon acknowledged that it had paid Iraqi newspapers to publish news articles that presented a positive view of developments in Iraq.

More -

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

10. Nothing was mentioned about 9/11, where we were attacked by fundamentalist Muslims. How do we change their attitudes? This query rests on two premises: The first belongs to the Bush administration and was part of the package of lies and intelligence manipulations that it used to hustle Congress and the American people into war - the claim that Saddam Hussein's regime and the terrorists who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001 had anything in common or any ties whatsoever. They didn't and the truth is that 9/11, important as it was, really should have nothing to do with Iraq and no place in any discussion of the war there - or at least that was certainly true until George Bush and his advisors managed almost single-handedly to recreate Iraq as the "central theater in the war on terror."

The second premise is one held by many Americans - that the only way to change the attitudes of those who are fighting the U.S. involves "whipping their ass," which rests on another commonly held opinion - that "these people only understand force." Attitudes are never changed in this way. Every serious scholar who studies terrorism agrees on this essential point: Terrorism arises from the misery that many people are forced to live in or in close proximity to. It is misguided and criminal, but it nevertheless derives from complaints people have about their daily lives, about the humiliations they experience in the larger social and political worlds they inhabit, and about the apparent impossibility of changing these circumstances.

My grandmother is facing starvation

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 08:18 PM

She must live somewhere very very cold or have a 4400 Sq. ft. house

Ya can't spin the Economy...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

tell that to your precious leader!!!!!!!

Arguing about the War "The Top Ten Reasons for Staying in (Leaving) Iraq By Michael Schwartz Tom Dispatch Sunday 04 December 2005

The best way to transform such attitudes, built as they are on hopelessness, would be to take a fraction (a fraction!!) of the money we are now spending on the war in Iraq and on our military and invest it in the lives of others. One example: a panel of expert development economists just delivered a report to the UN saying that for $50 billion annually we could bring the income of the poorest people in the world up to a level that would largely eradicate the famines and mass starvation currently spreading from one continent to another. That project, if enacted, would do more to reduce terrorism than all the "anti-terrorist" activities of our government, including the entire official defense budget (about $400 billion a year), the $200 billion for the war in Iraq, and the $80 or so billion for the Department of Homeland Security. Put another way, if the U.S. withdrew from Iraq, it could fund an entire program to alleviate global suffering with but a modest portion of the money it saved, and start to reduce terrorism instead of increasing it.
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Michael Schwartz, Professor of Sociology and Faculty Director of the Undergraduate College of Global Studies at Stony Brook University, has written extensively on popular protest and insurgency, and on American business and government dynamics. His work on Iraq has appeared on the internet at numerous internet sites, including Tomdispatch, Asia Times ,MotherJones.com, and ZNet; and in print in Contexts, Against the Current, and Z Magazine. His books include Radical Politics and Social Structure, and Social Policy and the Conservative Agenda (edited, with Clarence Lo). His email address is mailto:Ms42@optonline.net@optonline.net

Accessible Paul Krugman - The Joyless Economy at TruthOut

Adopting the repub viewpoint requires you to not care about people.

Take heart, dear listeners....

I really doubt that Lieberman is going to be Secretary of Defence. Rumsfeld is all over the news, and he's a great ass kisser of Bush. And he's compatriots with Cheney.

Bush is going to screw Lieberman in 2006 by running a nasty campaign against him.

Lieberman needs a brain, a dick, and a heart.
He has no clue as to what's really going on...

The Joyless Economy

The Bush administration seems puzzled that it isn' t getting more credit for what it thinks is a booming economy. So let me explain what' s going on.

The numbers are better though.

I know what Paul is saying, but the trends are better none-the-less. It's the political spectrum. He's the left side of that editorial page.

It won't keep the Fed from raising rates. Know what I'm sayin'?

Great Depression...The Jungle?

Remember we were attacked under Clinton however we really necr did anything about it!!

Posted by: Terry Ryan at December 6, 2005 08:19 PM

Hey Fuckface .......

Clinton caught the guy responsible for the first WTC bombing....

Ya can't spin the Economy...

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

You're right -- most people are doing great, money's flowing out everywhere, Christmas sales are through the ceiling, auto manufacturing is hiring like crazy to keep up with demand, I don't know why liberals are complaining.

By the way, are you high on LSD tonight?

It has occurred to me that Death is the currency of War Dog, the military, Donald Rumsfeld, suicide bombers, capital punishment, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, crimes of passion and deer hunters.

A Science Fiction short story that removes Death from the arm-twisting equation would be a good one.

(It would probably have to rely on some sort of Time-Reversal technique which is pretty trite and over-used but, hey, ya takes what ya can gets)

If the device found itself distributed on the Black Market and then easily available on EBay, it would sorta take the wind outa the sails of the tough guys.

It would only restore the dead to their immediately-prior-to-dead selves, so the terminally ill would not gain much of an advantage.

However, the other dead who were perfectly okay prior to being dead would return for a second go-around.

What would War Dog do? How would he coerce others to his way of thinking?

MADD subscribers would be forced to face the illness (or simple mistake) that is now a vile crime punishable by a fate worse than (dare I say it?) death.

Delay is finished.

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">GOP Treading Uncertain Path on DeLay Issue

I'm getting sick and tired of idiots like Sean Hannity and that morally repugnant radio host Brian Sussman saying, "Everyone agreed they had WMDs!"

Today Hannity said that John Kerry thought Saddam had nukes. WTF.

PLEASE LET SCOTT ADDRESS THE "EVERYONE AGREE" Bullshit.

I was talking about this last week.

It must be Paul.

Are they letting the blog link to him for free?

NY Times.

I'd just take a maintenance job with those people at this point.

Know what I'm sayin'?

I'm free, man. Go ahead. Take it.

(You will anyway.)

By the way, are you high on LSD tonight?

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 6, 2005 08:24 PM

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Just read the new and weep...

Ya'll tried to sell this worst Econ since the great depression last year..

NO sale..

'Vanity Fair' Offers Fresh Details on Judith Miller Saga

Elsewhere, Mnookin pulls no punches in stating that over the years Miller "had built a reputation for sleeping with her sources," had dated one of Sulzberger's best friends, Steve Ratner, "and had even, for a time, shared a vacation home with Sulzberger," whatever that means.

Renege (!)......

Using such a big word will make War Dog's head explode....

"You bunch of losers. You talk about how Howard Dean is being attacked by Bush but have you all ever talked about how Howard Dean has attacked Bush himself? You go on to say that Howard Dean is not an elected offical and is not running for anything. that si also a pile of bull!! Howard is running for something everyday he is head of the Democratic Party so he runs evetryday for office. PS. Remember we were attacked under Clinton however we really necr did anything about it!!
Terry Ryan"

You seriously don't have a clue. Clinton and Reno arrested and prosecuted the people involved with the first World Trade attack. Plus, he was man enough to not blame the prior administration. The attack happened in months after he was sworn in.

The moron in chief was in office 9 months before 9/11 got a warning prior to the attack and sat on it. To this day, W has not captured or killed Bin Laden. Just shut up, you're an idiot!!!

Poll: DeLay faces political woes at home - Criminal charges against Texas lawmaker appear to take a toll

(CNN) -- A poll released Monday evening suggests the criminal charges against Rep. Tom DeLay have taken a toll on his political support back home in his solidly Republican House district.

Close to half of the registered voters in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll said they would be likely to vote for an unnamed Democratic opponent next year.

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The difference between Democrats and Republicans is the footprints on the Democrats' asses!

2006: Incumbents should be filling their trousers with butt biscuits!

Lieberman needs a brain, a dick, and a heart. He has no clue as to what's really going on...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 08:23 PM

He's the reason the race was close in 2000. Why Gore picked him is another great political blunder by the Dems. They like to saddle up to losers with the V.P. selections.

By the way, are you freezing where you are?

See hoew that works?

Bush takes credit for the economy, I take credit for Prof. Krugman.

(Somehow, I think the politician Bush would want credit for both.)

Hey, Sam!

Here's one for you to check out later, on the war against Christmas. I heard this on Christian Broadcasting News and googled it:

Jews Against Anti Christian Defamation

"[W]e recognize that Christians are the last remaining obstacle to the moral deconstruction of America." --Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation founder Don Feder

"Part of America's future hinges on whether or not Christians - and I mean authentic Christians (in other words, not the Religious Left) succeed in the political arena." -Feder

"[I]f the Ku Klux Klan was marching with a symbol that said 'Merry Christmas,' it certainly wouldn�t be allowed." --Comedian Jackie Mason

Info on this group is spread around several sites, so I sifted out the gold and put all the links together -- so please forgive the link to my own site, which otherwise would be shameless self-promotion. Scroll down just a little to "Must Reads."

You just can't make up stuff this good. Jackie Mason!!

Down, doggie. No, NO! Stop humping my leg!

Just read the new and weep...

Ya'll tried to sell this worst Econ since the great depression last year..

NO sale..

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:27 PM

Of course you don't buy it because your fabulously rich, unlike the rest of us who are just plain rich.

I'm sure as hell not paying 50 bucks just to read Krugman..

All Hail Truthout.org!

Coincedence?

'L.A.Times' Closes Plant, Cuts Another 110 Jobs

Propaganda and bribery

The Bush administration will pay both at home and in Iraq for buying puff pieces in the media.

The Bad News Is That the Good News Is Fake

U.S. congressional leaders who have been touting Iraq's new "free press" as a sign of progress in the troubled country are upset at the Pentagon's admission last week that it has been paying for "good news" stories written by the military and placed in Iraqi media by a Washington-based public relations firm.

Yeah a lot of people are spending less this year. It's just a down turn. Gas prices and other things have made people extremely cautious.

Write your politicians!

(I don't play requests. Only for cigarettes, maybe. But you gotta buy me drinks to get me there.)

Clinton caught the guy responsible for the first WTC bombing....

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And considering he was in office mere months when that happened, his administration didn't lay the blame on George H.W. Bush, unlike the mindless minions of Little Boy Bush who say 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

NO sale..

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 08:27 PM

Ya...that's what retailers all around the country are hearing...

keep in mind too.... that rental houses usually have shitty furnaces that never get upgraded because the tenent pays the energy bill......

this is my case....

but the last time i used natural gas was 2 winters ago when the bill topped $300 bucks to take the nip off inside this 1000sqft house..... after last year's and this year's increases, i bet it would be $450/mo. this year to suck off their teat.......not I....

i've been wood heating ever since..... cost me $60 for a stacked pickup load which last 2 months having fires everyday.....

W.'s Head in the Sand By Maureen Dowd The New York Times

Saturday 03 December 2005

In the Christmas spirit, the time has come for the reality-based community to reach out to the White House.

The Bush warriors are so deluded, they're even faking their fakery.

This week, the president presented a plan-like plan for "victory" in Iraq, which Scott McClellan rather pompously called the unclassified version of their super secret master plan. But there's no way to achieve victory from the plan even if there were a real plan. If this is what they're telling themselves in the Sit Room, we're in bigger trouble than we thought.

Talk about your unknown unknowns, as Rummy would say.

The National Strategy for Victory must have come from the same P.R. genius who gave President Top Gun the "Mission Accomplished" banner about 48 hours before the first counterinsurgency war of the 21st century broke out in Iraq.

It's not a military strategy - classified or unclassified. It's political talking points - and not even good ones. Are we really supposed to believe that anybody, even the most deeply delusional Bush sycophant, believes the phrase "Our strategy is working"?

The president talked about three neatly definable groups of insurrectionists. But, as Dexter Filkins reported in yesterday's New York Times, there are dozens, perhaps as many as a hundred, groups fighting the US Army in Iraq, and they have little, if anything, in common.

Mr. Bush's presentation claimed that the US was actually making progress in Iraq. But outside the Bush-Cheney-Rummy bubble, 10 more marines were killed by a roadside bomb outside Fallujah, for a total of 2,125 US military deaths so far.

The administration must realize it needs a real exit strategy, because it's advertising for one. The US Agency for International Development is offering more than $1 billion for anyone - anyone at all - who can come up with a plan to pacify and rebuild 10 Iraqi cities seen as vital in the war.

Maybe the White House should apply - Usaid's proffer says the "invitation is open to any type of entity."

When Bush officials weren't telling us fairy tales about the

Protesters greet Cheney at DeLay fund-raiser

HOUSTON - Protesters bearing signs that read "The GOP is in an ethics free-fall" and chants of "Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, Dick Cheney Has To Go!" greeted Vice President Dick Cheney as he stopped in Houston on Monday to speak at a campaign fund-raiser for embattled U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay.

Cheney spoke to more than 300 Republican supporters, many local political leaders, who paid anywhere from $500 to $4,200 to attend the private fund-raiser.

GOP heavy-hitters like Texas Sens. John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison, who were scheduled to attend, stayed in Washington to attend the White House Christmas dinner.

The media was not allowed to attend the event and nearly 200 protesters were kept several hundred feet away from the hotel where it was held.

Protesters lined the street in front of the hotel, located inside the Galleria mall, holding up signs for passing motorists, and used a bullhorn to lead chants criticizing Cheney and President Bush for their handling of the war in Iraq. Others had signs critical of DeLay's legal problems.

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My pension plan is a liquor license.

i've been wood heating ever since..... cost me $60 for a stacked pickup load which last 2 months having fires everyday.....

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 08:32 PM

[eye twitches]

unlike the mindless minions of Little Boy Bush who say 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at December 6, 2005 08:32 PM

very true my queer friend.... August 6th PDB....theyve got no answer for that

I think there is a fireplace.. thanks for the advice

W.'s Head in the Sand By Maureen Dowd The New York Times

Saturday 03 December 2005

...... When Bush officials weren't telling us fairy tales about the big, bad W.M.D. in Iraq, they were assuring us that the unprovoked war would be a kindness for Iraq, giving it democracy. But not only are they failing to bring democracy to Iraq, they are also degrading democracy in America as they help Iranian-backed mullahs install an Islamic republic with Saddamist torture chambers.

They've tarnished American moral leadership with illegal detentions, torture, secret CIA prisons in countries only recently liberated from the Soviet gulag, and Soviet-style propaganda both at home and in Iraq.

Guess the Bush administration didn't learn anything this fall when federal auditors charged it with violating the law by buying favorable news coverage of education polices. The administration got right back into the fake news business, paying to plant propaganda in the Iraqi press. They outsourced this disinformation campaign to something called the Lincoln Group - have they no shame?

You have to admire Scott McClellan, the president's spokesman. He kept a straight face when he called the US "a leader when it comes to promoting and advocating a free and independent media around the world." He added, "We've made our views very clear when it comes to freedom of the press."

Exceedingly clear. The Bushies don't believe in it. They disdain the whole democratic system of checks and balances.

At the Naval Academy, President Bush talked about how well the Iraqi security forces were fighting. He claimed that 40 Iraqi battalions were taking the lead in the fight against insurgents, and that in the battle of Tal Afar this year, "the assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces - 11 Iraqi battalions backed by 5 coalition battalions providing support."

Anderson Cooper of CNN swiftly produced Time's Baghdad bureau chief, Michael Ware, who was embedded with the US military during the entire Tal Afar battle. "With the greatest respect to the president, that's completely wrong," Mr. Ware said, adding: "I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battlin

August 6th PDB....theyve got no answer for that

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 08:34 PM

Or the Sept. 21st PDB either.

very true my queer friend.... August 6th PDB....theyve got no answer for that

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 08:34 PM

I said as much earlier too. These mindless right wingers are pathetic.

HOW BUREAUCRACY FACILITATES CRIME

Recently, the British science publication, Nature, reported that 15% of American researchers admitted to adjusting their conclusions to be more in line with their sponsor's expectations. If this is how many researchers are admitting to skewing their research to please their sponsors, how many are doing so and not admitting it?

W.'s Head in the Sand By Maureen Dowd The New York Times

Saturday 03 December 2005

...... Anderson Cooper of CNN swiftly produced Time's Baghdad bureau chief, Michael Ware, who was embedded with the US military during the entire Tal Afar battle. "With the greatest respect to the president, that's completely wrong," Mr. Ware said, adding: "I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with al Qaeda. They were not leading."

He also told Mr. Cooper: "I have had a very senior officer here in Baghdad say to me that there's never going to be a point where these guys will be able to stand up against the insurgency on their own."

Mr. Ware recalled that in a battle two weeks ago, he saw an Iraqi security officer put down his weapon and curl up into a ball when he was under attack. "I have seen that on - on many, many occasions," he said.

Curling up in a ball. Good National Strategy for Victory.

Liquor License.. expensive in many places! like gold.

Do you carry Barbancourt RuM? from Haiti? yummy

I like the 8 year old one

To Dog Popoo

Assuming you can add and subtract go to the BLS web site and find ( if they haven't hidden it again) the gross job gains and job loss figures. Add to the job losses the 200,000 jobs per month necessary to just keep up with the increase in the work force and see how many Americans have been unemployed since 2000. This data is taken from payroll figures so it is immune to the stats that go into the unemployment percentages. After you come up with around 12 million job losses or not created then add to it the 4% of the 160 million that were unemployed in 2000 and see what number you get. It is something like 16 million. that's an unemployment rate of about 11% which would make it on the same scale as that in Europe. The jobs that your pal GW creates are all at Wal-Mart. Christmas will be dismal except for you rich assholes.

Sam!!!!!

Please mention me......Betty Jo Bieloski...

on the radio!

Posted by: Susan Underhill at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

Everyone knew her as Nancy!

Amazing how this recent history has been forgotten and rewritten...

The ultra-puppetmasters who've controled Jupiter Island, Florida since they started banding there in the 40,s have ripped off and broke an 83 year old woman, Hattie Siegel, to the tune of $1.8 Million over "code violations" because she allows her small lot to retain natural vegetation.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-psiegel06dec06,0,3281742.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Of Jupiter Island;

"Averell Harriman made Jupiter Island a staging ground for his 1940s takeover of the U.S. national security apparatus. It was in that connection that the island became possibly the most secretive private place in America."

The Bush's have had a presence on the Island for a long time since they've always been an extension to the large intestine of the true controllers of our country, the hyper wealthy.

"for several decades before Bush was President, Jupiter Island had an ordinance requiring the registration and fingerprinting of all housekeepers, gardeners and other non-residents working on the island. The Jupiter Island police department says that there are sensors in the two main roads that can track every automobile on the island. If a car stops in the street, the police will be there within one or two minutes. Surveillance is a duty of all employees of the town of Jupiter Island. News reporters are to be prevented from visiting the island..."

http://www.tarpley.net/bush4.htm

Yeah, Lieberman dragged down Gore in 2000.

And yes, I'm freezing here....

Operation desert fox.

=

Operation Rommel.

Rice Tries to Quiet Terror Fight Criticism

By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

BUCHAREST, Romania - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tried Tuesday to allay European suspicions about U.S. practices in the pursuit of terrorists, even as she secured new rights for American use of a military base suspected to have housed a secret CIA prison.

She refused to say whether the base ever served as a clandestine holding pen or interrogation center for terror suspects, and she stepped carefully around questions about a German citizen who sued the CIA on Tuesday over his seizure and detention by U.S. authorities.

She also would not address an ABC News report that prisoners were whisked away from the Mihail Kogolniceanu base in Romania shortly before Rice arrived in the country.

"I am not going to talk about whether such activities take place," Rice said when asked about the Romanian base. "To do so would clearly be to get into a realm of discussion about supposed or purported intelligence activities and I simply won't do that."

Romanian President Traian Basescu insisted, as he has done repeatedly since the CIA prisons allegations surfaced in news reports last month, that Romania never hosted such a site.

Allegations that the United States violated human rights and European law by running clandestine jails in Europe to interrogate suspected terrorists have clouded a diplomatic trip to European capitals this week.

Rice began her trip Monday with a lengthy defense of U.S. terrorism policies that she contended had saved European lives as well as American.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 08:37 PM

I've got so many stories open in new pages that I can't read the tabs. Groovy :)

I admire the hell out of Scott Ritter

...he had enough testicular fortitude to meet face-to-face with Saddam Hussein's regime and continue to denounce the bullshit about him

...not to say that Saddam Hussein is/was a saint...but even Morning Sedition's hosts said some sympathetic things about him today.

ONLY the Chimp administration could cause Saddam Hussein to be a martyr

con't

Before traveling to Romania on Tuesday, she said in Berlin that it is important that "friends be able to talk about issues of concern."

"It is also important, though, that any debate have a healthy respect for the challenge that we face when we face an enemy that operates from within our societies" and is intent on killing innocent civilians, she added.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the United States has admitted that Khaled al-Masri's detention was a mistake, but Rice would not say so outright.

U.S. officials said they cannot discuss the German's case in detail because it is in court.

"I did say to the chancellor that when and if mistakes were made we will work very hard and as quickly as possible to rectify them," Rice said.

As for secret prisons, suspicion fell on Romania's Mihail Kogalniceanu Air Base near the Black Sea and Poland's Szymany Airport after Human Rights Watch said it had flight records indicating that aircraft with links to the CIA landed repeatedly at both facilities in 2001-2004.

The Romanian base, which was heavily used by U.S. forces after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, was among several installations covered in a defense cooperation pact signed Tuesday by Rice and Foreign Minister Mihai Razvan Ungureanu.

Officials opened the base to AP journalists last month, and the sprawling base appeared virtually deserted.

Romania's military and the Pentagon say U.S. forces, which at one point numbered about 3,500 at the base, were withdrawn in June 2003 and since have returned only briefly for training exercises, most recently in September.

I've got so many stories open in new pages that I can't read the tabs. Groovy :)

Posted by: Cat Chew at December 6, 2005 08:43 PM

Misery loves company.

Rommel.

Posted by: Fritz at December 6, 2005 08:43 PM

Rommel got owned.... we beat him off every continent, and his Atlantic wall defense worked great too... --not.

Oh...reminder...Bill Clinton...Best Republican president ever.

con't

Yet some officials acknowledged that parts of the installation were off-limits to Romanian authorities, and the country's main intelligence service, SRI, has said it had no jurisdiction there.

"There were some bases we put at the Americans' disposal. We can't know what happened there," former Prime Minister Adrian Nastase, who served 2001-2004 and now heads the Chamber of Deputies, said Tuesday. He added, however: "For us, it's clear there was no secret agreement" allowing covert U.S. activity.

The new agreement is meant to give U.S. forces a jumping-off point in Eastern Europe to be closer to potential terror targets in the Middle East.

Meanwhile, Bulgarian Defense Minister Veselin Bliznakov, speaking at a news conference in Washington, said negotiations between his country and the United States about a military facility there should be concluded in March. The agreement, he said, would help improve his country's armed forces, boost the economy and enhance security.

In Germany, Rice congratulated Merkel on her election. Merkel is Germany's first chancellor from the formerly communist East, and for the Bush administration a welcome change after a turbulent relationship with Gerhard Schroeder.

In Romania, Rice praised cooperation between U.S. and Romanian forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Underscoring a friendship that has deepened since Romania threw off communism in 1989, Rice hailed the country as "a strong friend with whom we share common values."

posted by: Crank "Your Friendly Muse" Bait at December 6, 2005 08:24 PM

Death as currency and sadism as the late payment penalty. Wado dollars.

Sam!!!!!

Please mention me......Betty Jo Bieloski...

on the radio!

Posted by: Susan Underhill at December 6, 2005 08:16 PM

Everyone knew her as Nancy!

Posted by: Audrey Farber at December 6, 2005 08:39 PM

Put down that pickle!

Frontline - Scott Ritter:

A former Marine intelligence officer he was lead inspector for UNSCOM's Concealment and Investigations until he resigned in late 1998 on the heals of escalating intransigence by Iraq in it's dealings with UN inspection teams. Ritter charges that UNSCOM's mission was undermined by infiltration from the CIA and lack of support from Washington and the UN Security Council.

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And yes, I'm freezing here....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 08:43 PM

Must be lovely weather for you. I've heard that people have died in freezing temps, or is that just another liberal myth?

Where's L@L?

I'm rolling a doobie... dude.

;-p

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 08:45 PM

Not at all. We just "redeployed" him to frustrate Monty. Afrika was a tie...like Vietnan.

Plus he was a hellova lot cuter, eh Charlie?

Nobody called Monty a Fox.

I've got so many stories open in new pages that I can't read the tabs. Groovy :)

Posted by: Cat Chew at December 6, 2005 08:43 PM

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you do know you can book mark all those "tabs" to a folder for later if you have to close down your browser........

WMD in Iraq: Evidence and Implications

Publisher: Carnegie
Carnegie Endowment Report, January 2004


Summary
This new study details what the U.S. and international intelligence communities understood about Iraq's weapons programs before the war and outlines policy reforms to improve threat assessments, deter transfer of WMD to terrorists, strengthen the UN weapons inspection process, and avoid politicization of the intelligence process.

The report distills a massive amount of data into side-by-side comparisons of pre-war intelligence, the official presentation of that intelligence, and what is now known about Iraq's programs.

The short version

XM Satellite (Air America itself?) is playing commercials that resemble a radio show. It reminds me of the Chimp man's campaign ads-- "Reporter Ryan"

Rommel

a hero, the best Prussian manhood had to give...

Remember, he lost his life trying to kill Hitler. RIP Irwin Rommel true hero of liberty.

The real reason we invaded Iraq was not that Iraq had WMD, but of Peak-Oil. Peak-Oil is the reason we're their, and why we will stay. Urge your listeners to research Peak-Oil, and the truth will then emerge!

Rick-right you are, but also-they have insured this for THEMSELVES along with a constant marketplace for their weapons of war-so the rich can continue to grow richer until there is no air or water fit for life on this planet- of course, If the 400 lb gorillia( China ) wants the oil, I believe they will just swipe it away easily...C

---Bait Short Story News Service---

Suicide Bomber Kills 24 In Bizarre Bazaar Attack

All of the dead were returned to life when an observer used the Undo device.

The suicide bomber is being held for questioning.

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Liquor Store Clerk Killed By Shotgun Blast

Due to the Undo device, a brutally-murdered liquor store clerk has been able to provide police artists with a clear description of his killer.

The murderer has been apprehended and is being held pending trial.

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Fallujah Residents Killed In Stealth Bombing Attack

The Undo device has returned to life 127 innocent civilians killed in a an aerial bombing raid. They will testify against Bush administration claims that only terrorists were targeted.

I hope I'm not going to be labeled a heretic...for listening to Scott.

I've already lost my connection twice, plus the stream refused to buffer a bunch of times.

But look at the bright side.

We got purple thumbs!

Anti-war group to march on Guantanamo

WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 (UPI) -- A group of 25 activists will walk 80 miles across Cuba to the gates of the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, where over 500 prisoners are being held.

The self-proclaimed anti-torture activists, members of the War Resisters League and Catholic Workers, will arrive at Guantanamo Bay on Dec. 10, International Human Rights Day.

Guantanamo is home to a detainee facility for more than 500 prisoners captured in Afghanistan and elsewhere. The White House decided in 2001 that the jail would be free from Geneva Convention restrictions, and that the prisoners -- not being held on U.S. territory -- would not have the constitutional right to habeas corpus. That is, they could not challenge their right to be held by the government. A writ of habeas corpus requires the government to justify the detention in a U.S. court and it is the primary means of protecting people from false imprisonment.

The Supreme Court held in 2004 that the prisoners at Guantanamo have a right to challenge their detention in federal court.

In the meantime, there have been allegations by former prisoners and a former U.S. guard that prisoners were treated inhumanely or cruelly, behavior that in some cases might amount to torture.

Official government documents and e-mails released have shown a division in the government over the standards of treatment afforded to the prisoners.

"Witness Against Torture seeks to 'defend human dignity' by visiting with the hundreds of detainees who have been held for more than three years under horrific conditions by the American government," according to the group's press release issued Tuesday. The group is highly unlikely to get to see the prisoners, who are not even allowed visits with lawyers or family.

Valerie Bertinelli Divorcing Rocker Eddie Van Halen

Well...

...that's nothing new.

Scott Ritter needs to be on Air America weekly...

Let me get this straight: Saddam Hussein is NOT on trial for assisting Al Qaida. And yet I don't hear anything from all those Americans who still (wrongly) believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11! Aren't they even a little upset that Saddam isn't being tried for the crime they think he committed?! How strrrange....