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December 6, 2005

hour one - Tuesday

When in doubt, surround yourself with people in uniform:

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What Sam has been talking about this hour:

Lieberman calls for bipartisan war cabinet.

From the WSJ: Lieberman's editorial entitled "Our Troops Must Stay"

Dean on the Iraq War.

Arab nations deeply suspicious of U.S. motives.

Posted by not sam at December 6, 2005 6:58 PM

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Spoing!

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Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 6, 2005 7:02 PM

Wado

will you please post that "List" again for the next thread? I love it every time you do.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 6, 2005 07:00 PM

=================================================================

Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq

Bush's Low Poll Numbers

The Murtha Surrender Resolution

Bring the War Here: Scud Bush! - We Can't Wait! - Posted by: Riot Now!

Voters Reject Move-on in Ohio

The World Can Not Wait - Nov 2 protest

Phase II of the Iraq Intelligence Report

The Judge Alito Filibuster

Fitzmas

Cindy attacks Hillary over the War

Galloway's lies to congress then gets caught

Anti-war rally (boy did that suck)

Bush been Drinkin

Hurricane Katrina

Justice Roberts


Cindy Sheehan

Karl Rove

CAFTA

Hackett in Ohio

Tom Delay

Bolton

Bush is a Fascist

Gannon sex ring

Downing St Memo

Impeachment

War Crimes

Electoral College vote

Recount

Bush is Hitler

Vote Fraud

Bev

Voter Suppression

AWOL

Michael Moore Movie

Bush Crime Family

WMD

911 Attacks

Florida 2000

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:02 PM

☼☼ tuesday ~ red electric earth ☼☼

~ Six at the beginning means: ~

Pushing upward that meets with confidence

Brings great good fortune.

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 7:02 PM

When is Lieberman going to switch to the Republican Party? Peace

Posted by: Imhotep at December 6, 2005 7:03 PM

A dismissal of all the charges would have allowed him to try to win back his post, which is being temporarily filled by Roy Blunt of Minnesota.

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 06:56 PM

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(Your source missed the correct State by about 800 miles)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:03 PM

Wado

will you please post that "List" again for the next thread? I love it every time you do.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 6, 2005 07:00 PM

There!! Now you have given him a woody Viagra only wishes it could. Doesn't that just make you feel dirty, EB??

Okay .. off to make dinner and not listen to the show because AIR AMERICA MINNESOTA SUCKS!!!!!!

Bye!

Posted by: Wil at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

Boiing!

Evening everyone. :)

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

Is JG back for jury duty? Why'd she have to cancel WW stuff to do jury duty, when everyone gets off for much less disruption?

Posted by: Marion Delgado at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

Casus belli is a Latin expression from the international law theory of Jus ad bellum. Formally, the expression (which can be translated as "risk of war" or "occasion for war") is the grievances section of a formal public declaration of war by a state, which lists: the grievances it has against another state which are, or may become, the cause of war; the intentions it has in prosecuting the war; and the actions the other state could take to avert conflict or restore peace. The declaration thus seeks to meet the Jus Ad Bellum criteria of "Just Cause", "Public Declaration", and Ultima Ratio ("Last Resort").

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

(Your source missed the correct State by about 800 miles)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 07:03 PM

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(A state, it is worth adding, within which you reside)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

(Your source missed the correct State by about 800 miles)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 07:03 PM

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They sure did...!!!

Roy could end up the big cheese next year..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 07:00 PM

Everything goes with Pork Rinds.

It's the Pino Nior of snack foods.

{"Pino Nior" is my attempt at spelling a kind of wine.)

Posted by: joy fur-ever at December 6, 2005 7:05 PM

eya GBC!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 6, 2005 7:06 PM

{"Pino Nior" is my attempt at spelling a kind of wine.)

Posted by: joy fur-ever at December 6, 2005 07:05 PM

--------------------------------------------

You spelled it to a "T".

Almost.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:07 PM

Lager...if the rinds are the Tobasco flavored ones

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at December 6, 2005 7:09 PM

The Bush administration as "a regime whose chief characteristics are ideological disdain for evidence and theological distrust of science."

-Moyers March 2005

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Janeane Garofalo hates God.

-Gerlach

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:09 PM

There!! Now you have given him a woody Viagra only wishes it could. Doesn't that just make you feel dirty, EB??

Okay .. off to make dinner and not listen to the show because AIR AMERICA MINNESOTA SUCKS!!!!!!

Bye!

Posted by: Wil at December 6, 2005 07:05 PM

why no, wil, or don't feel dirty-- I have a religious experience reading it objectively. When you add up the list, it makes the Bush administration look looney, and it adds to his poll number toilet flush.

Oh Lord, Oh Lord, thank you for wado and his "List"!

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 6, 2005 7:10 PM

With new legislation, Ohio Republicans plan holiday burial for American Democracy
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
December 6, 2005

A law that will make democracy all but moot in Ohio is about to pass the state legislature and to be signed by its Republican governor. Despite massive corruption scandals besieging the Ohio GOP, any hope that the Democratic party could win this most crucial swing state in future presidential elections, or carry its pivotal US Senate seat in 2006, are about to end.

House Bill 3 has already passed the Ohio House of Representatives and is about to be approved by the Republican-dominated Senate, probably before the holiday recess. Republicans dominate the Ohio legislature thanks to a heavily gerrymandered crazy quilt of rigged districts, and to a moribund Ohio Democratic party. The GOP-drafted HB3 is designed to all but obliterate any possible future Democratic revival. Opposition from the Ohio Democratic Party, where it exists at all, is diffuse and ineffectual.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1607

Posted by: yallagal at December 6, 2005 7:10 PM

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-secret-workers,0,2743885,print.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

Suit Decries New Secrecy in Government


By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
Associated Press Writer

December 6, 2005, 5:57 PM EST

WASHINGTON -- Breaking a tradition of openness that began in 1816, the Bush administration has without explanation withheld the names and work locations of about 900,000 of its civilian workers, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

"Citizens have a right to know who is working for the government," said Adina Rosenbaum, attorney for the co-directors of the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, a research group at Syracuse University, who sued under the Freedom of Information act to get the data.

Since 1989, TRAC has been posting on the Internet a database with the name, work location, salary and job category of all 2.7 million federal civilian workers except those in some law enforcement agencies. The data are often used by reporters and government watchdog groups to monitor policies and detect waste or abuse.

This is the most secretive clandestine govt...since the old USSR...man where are the 15 watt light bulbs... Love the shofar!!!!

Posted by: kernal jessup at December 6, 2005 7:11 PM

Lieberman can go lower. Trust me.

The "highly moral" Joe has something to hide, and the GOP probably has something on him.

Writing for The Wall Street Journal now? Ugh...

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:12 PM

What we have here...is a failure to separate the crime from the patholgical intent.

The nature of the heinous event, and the intent.

The evidence. And the shut book.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:12 PM

Hey when does Chanuka start?


Yo Sam! How about Hillary getting Pilloried?


Anti-War protester DOG HER EVERY MOVE. NOW, she's got a PRIMARY CHALLENGE. Please as a New Yorker and as a Jew.. Could you please talk about Israel, The NY Jewish Vote and Hillary. We GENTILES arent allowed to talk about Aipac or Netenyahu or the NEW ISREALI PARTY!

You can. You're a Jew, and a damn fine one. Please talk about Jews, Democrats, and Hillary tonight.

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:12 PM

yeah, but the quicker we get christ back, the sooner we will stop killing each other...or something like that

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at December 6, 2005 7:13 PM

If Joe doesn't get the Secretary of Defence job, watch Bush and the GOP go after him in 2006.

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:13 PM

Do any of you guys recall which day of the majority report Sam and Janeane were talking about how a christian right-wing group was sending over manuals to iraq to remind soilders not to masturbate?

Posted by: The Eel at December 6, 2005 7:14 PM

yo, -B (motherfucker)

just because janeane won't give me head

doesn't mean she's evil

nor does it mean she hates god, or head

(it just means she's missing out)

(heh-heh)

*


-written by a 32yo liar

(hubba-hubba)

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:14 PM

Clinton greeted by anti-war protesters


By MARC HUMBERT
AP Political Writer

December 6, 2005, 4:19 PM EST


SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. -- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was greeted Tuesday by anti-war protesters and a second Democratic challenger to her bid for re-election.

The former first lady arrived in Saratoga Springs for a local Democratic Party fundraiser, while outside more than a dozen Iraq war protesters waved signs and called on her to support an immediate withdrawal of troops.

"I'm disappointed she's not that far apart from the current administration," said Barbara Murphy of Clifton Park, a retired state worker.


http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--clinton-war1206dec06,0,5025798.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:15 PM

Republicans have had complete labotomies. Dems only partial ones.

Lieberman has had a complete one.....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:15 PM

Sammy, Sammy, Sammy.

One is smitten of a lover.

Combatants are smote.

Right?

Ah, what do I know.

Posted by: joy fur-ever at December 6, 2005 7:15 PM

Im voting for Weicker...

Im stayin... and finishing MY coffee.

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:16 PM

Posted by: NEWS CONSUMER" at December 6, 2005 7:16 PM

An Anti-War Challenge to Hillary Clinton

John Nichols
Mon Dec 5,11:19 AM ET


The Nation -- Former National Writers Union president Jonathan Tasini, one of the most outspoken progressive activists in the U.S. labor movement, is expected this week to launch a Democratic primary challenge to New York Senator Hillary Clinton on a progressive platform that features a call for bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq.


Tasini has scheduled an announcement for Tuesday morning in New York City, setting up a campaign that could put unexpected pressure from the left on Clinton, who been one of the strongest Democratic backers of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Tasini plans to campaign in support of the call by U.S. Representative John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pennsylvania, for the rapid withdrawal of U.S. troops from that Middle Eastern country.

"Senator Clinton is out of step with the values of a majority of New Yorkers. While a majority of New Yorkers support an end to the war, Senator Clinton has repeatedly voiced her support for a war that continues to accumulate unacceptable costs, in terms of American and Iraqi lives and our own government spending," explained Tasini, decribing a central theme of a campaign that is also expected to advocate for fair trade, economic reforms and universal health care.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20051205/cm_thenation/141206_1

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:16 PM

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 07:15 PM

boring!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:16 PM

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 07:16 PM

just as boring!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:17 PM

What I expect Scott Ritter to speak about is casus belli.

As former representative of the United Nations, I hope Mr. Seder understands the damage to the State Department...that Iraq had posed an imminent threat to U.S. national security, which required a pre-emptive invasion.

I'm hoping this in the back of his mind before I go make myself a cup of coffee and turn him on.

Because I'm not streaming right now.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:17 PM

CNNs latest

Can the United States 'win' the war in Iraq?

Yes, within two years 13% 8045 votes

Yes, but a long haul 25% 14876 votes

No 62% 37193 votes

Total: 60114 votes

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:18 PM

When does Chanooka start? I wanna send Sam a prezzy..

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:18 PM

Hillary and Lieberman would make a great couple.

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:18 PM

Hi Ono nice to see you as always.

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:19 PM

In fact, in my cold house...where I get little rest these days...

He understands who is on his show tonight.

He is speaking to the UN.

This may be new to him.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:20 PM

Ex-Conn. Governor May Challenge Lieberman

HARTFORD, Conn. - Former Connecticut governor and senator Lowell Weicker said Tuesday said he will consider challenging Sen. Joe Lieberman in his re-election bid next year, but only if no credible anti-war candidate steps forward.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:20 PM

CNNs latest

Can the United States 'win' the war in Iraq? Yes, within two years 13% 8045 votes Yes, but a long haul 25% 14876 votes No 62% 37193 votes

Total: 60114 votes

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 07:18 PM

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The problem with these kinds of polls is that nobody defines "Win" or "Victory" in Iraq.

Nobody knows what those words would mean in Iraq.

Posted by: Ken Warner at December 6, 2005 7:20 PM

Ohio Bill Would Restrict Elections Officer


Ohio's chief elections officer would no longer be able to hold two jobs seemingly at odds — counting votes and backing candidates — under changes to an election-reform bill made public Monday.

In a jab at GOP Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, who was an honorary vice chairman in the Bush-Cheney campaign last year, some fellow Republicans want to prohibit such dual responsibilities in the future.

The proposal also prohibits the secretary of state from taking an active role on a ballot issue, although it would not affect issues already in the pipeline.

That would seem to allow Blackwell, who is running for governor next year, to proceed with his own ballot proposal to limit the state's ability to increase spending and taxes.

Blackwell was reviewing the changes and had no immediate comment, a spokesman said.

The bill, to be introduced Tuesday in the Senate Rules Committee, would also require that all Ohio voters show identification at the polls to curb voter fraud. Democrats plan to fight the requirement, arguing the rule would hurt the poor and could limit the number of ballots cast.

Also Monday, a federal judge in Toledo allowed a lawsuit to go forward that accuses top Ohio elections officials of running a system that deprives citizens of voting rights.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:21 PM

I don't have those credentials.

I'm poor.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:21 PM

Short On Guests, DeLay Fundraiser Lets In Protestors

Cheney yesterday skipped the White House Christmas party to headline a fundraiser for Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX). Top ticket prices were $4,200, where donors could attend a VIP reception, take photographs with Cheney, and receive recognition. For $2,100, attendees could rub elbows and take photos with DeLay. Regular tickets (the lowest cost for admission) were $500.

DeLay (with an approval rating at 37% and a money laundering charge still standing) and Cheney (at 19%) weren’t enough of a draw to attract high-dollar donors.

While 250 people allegedly attended the event, evidently not everyone had to pay full ticket price. Protestor Diane Wilson of Code Pink said she paid only $50:

I guess they needed people inside. You can get in pretty cheap. I didn’t want to give too much.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/06/delay-fundraiser-protestors/

Posted by: yallagal at December 6, 2005 7:21 PM

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 07:19 PM

: )

*

(phew!) i thought i was going to get a reprimand

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:21 PM

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 07:21 PM

BORING!!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:22 PM

Nobody knows what those words would mean in Iraq.

Posted by: Ken Warner at December 6, 2005 07:20 PM


Yeah i know... but the general idea is that Americans are not at all optimistic about "any" kind of outcome... which further demonstrates how out of touch Bush and Lieberman are with reality in the USA

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:24 PM

The problem with these kinds of polls is that nobody defines "Win" or "Victory" in Iraq.

Nobody knows what those words would mean in Iraq.

Posted by: Ken Warner at December 6, 2005 07:20 PM

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Thus, my problem with short-form discussions in which definitions differ or float in an ether of the absolute barely understood by the speaker, much less the listener.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:24 PM

Suicide attacks serve other purposes besides inflicting damage. First, they generate the maximum amount of publicity for the cause, and second, they force outside intervention. The emergence of 24-hour global news networks such as CNN and the explosive growth of the internet have enabled virtual global awareness.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:24 PM

Nobody knows what those words would mean in Iraq.

Posted by: Ken Warner at December 6, 2005 07:20 PM

Win...

Translation: dominate militarily and get away with it for sufficient time to allow propogandist rewrite of history and public relations to cover the tracks of this criminal endeavor.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:25 PM

Where I live ever now and then we get a Klu Klux Klan recruiting parade. They're big republican supporters. What's funny is that they say if you support bush or any other republican then your our kind of person. And another thing you can't be a jew or black (they use other words). As far back as I can remember they have had these recruitment parades.

Posted by: 1942tyu at December 6, 2005 7:26 PM

This whole Iraq deal and our loss of our democracy at home is bigger in scope than we can get our heads around. We are being governed by a 'club' with only commercial, and global goals. I'm being used as an ATM machine by these people. Daddy's on a drunk and he's using my American Express Card.

Posted by: quantumspin at December 6, 2005 7:26 PM

The United States "does not condone torture."

The US is a law-abiding nation. US allies should refocus on strategies to deal with terrorism.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:28 PM

Daddy's on a drunk and he's using my American Express Card.

Posted by: quantumspin at December 6, 2005 07:26 PM

Wheres Mommy ????

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:28 PM

We may as well abandon the Big Easy because the White House is killing a plan to protect the city from the next Katrina.


AS WE NEAR the 100-day mark since Hurricane Katrina hit, it's time we ended our national state of denial and abandon New Orleans for good.

We should call it quits not because New Orleans can't be made relatively safe from hurricanes. It can be. And not because to do so is more trouble than it's worth. It's not. Instead, the hammers and brooms and chain saws should all be put away and the city permanently boarded up because the Bush administration has already given New Orleans a quiet kiss of death.

Although he has encouraged city residents to return home and declared "we will do whatever it takes" to save the city, President Bush last month refused the one thing New Orleans simply cannot live without: a restored network of barrier islands and coastal wetlands.

Katrina destroyed the Big Easy — and future Katrinas will do the same — because 1 million acres of coastal islands and marshland vanished in Louisiana in the last century because of human interference. These land forms served as natural "speed bumps," reducing the lethal surge tide of past hurricanes and making New Orleans habitable in the first place. A $14-billion plan to fix this problem — widely viewed as technically sound and supported by environmentalists, oil companies and fishermen alike — has been on the table for years and was pushed forward with greater urgency after Katrina hit. But the Bush administration has turned its back on this plan.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:29 PM

[WAR-DOG FANTASY LIST]


Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 07:02 PM

translation: i'm an areshole

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:29 PM

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 07:02 PM

commentary on war-dog's fantasy list:

boring!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:32 PM

We are being governed by a 'club' with only commercial, and global goals. I'm being used as an ATM machine by these people. Daddy's on a drunk and he's using my American Express Card.

Posted by: quantumspin at December 6, 2005 07:26 PM

------------------------------------------------

The above is succinct.

I like "succinct".

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:32 PM

Resolve

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:33 PM

N Korea threatens talks walk-out

North Korea is threatening to boycott international talks on its nuclear weapons programme unless the US drops financial sanctions against it

Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 7:34 PM

evil-doers

enemies of freedom

war on freedom

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:34 PM

On O'Reillys site *** haha i know *** theres actually a poll that says....

"Should Americans who disagree with San Francisco's anti-military stance avoid traveling to the city?"


Does O'reilly think its O.K. for foreign tourists to do the same to America....is O'reilly really calling for every nation in the world ( Except Poland ) to boycott travel and vacations in the U.S. because they all disagree with OUR military stance ??


These people are to stupid to live.

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:34 PM

why did we go to iraq in the first gulf war?

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at December 6, 2005 7:35 PM

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 07:32 PM

i like "prolix"

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:35 PM

Don't forget Poland!

Posted by: Fritz at December 6, 2005 7:35 PM

Welcome to the Hackocracy

The events of the past months have awakened the press to the true nature of the Bush administration. It is overrun with hacks--that is, government officials with waifish resumés padded like the Michelin man, whose political connections have won them important national responsibilities. But, in the face of this rush to flay the Bush hacks, we should consider their achievements.

15: Israel Hernandez

Assistant Secretary for Trade Promotion and Director General of the United States and Foreign Commercial Service, Department of Commerce (confirmation pending)

14: Andrew Maner

-Chief Financial Officer, Department of Homeland Security

13: Claire Buchan

-Chief of Staff, Department of Commerce

12: Paul Hoffman

-Deputy Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior

11: Patrick Rhode

-Acting Deputy Director Federal Emergency Management Agency

10: Steven Law

-Deputy Secretary, Department of Labor

9: Hal Stratton

-Chairman, Consumer Product Safety Commission

8: Mark McKinnon

-Member, Broadcasting Board of Governors (confirmation pending)

7: Stewart Simonson

-Assistant Secretary for Public Health and Emergency Preparedness, Department of Health and Human Services

6: Hector Barreto

-Administrator, Small Business Administration

5: David Wilkins

-American Ambassador to Canada

4: Jim Nicholson

-Secretary, Department of Veterans Affairs

3: Rear Admiral Cristina Beato

-Acting Assistant Secretary for Health, Department of Health and Human Services

2: John Pennington

-Director, Region Ten, Federal Emergency Management Agency

1: Harriet Miers

-White House Counsel, Nominee for Associate Justice of the Supreme Court

Welcome to the Hackocracy

¿how many have you ever heard of before now?

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 7:35 PM

Good evening blog.

Posted by: CMinCA at December 6, 2005 7:36 PM

It's comedy...

Diebold insider alleges company plagued by technical woes, Diebold defends 'sterling' record


In an exclusive interview with RAW STORY, a whistleblower from electronic voting heavyweight Diebold Election Systems Inc. raised grave concerns about the company’s electronic voting technology and of electronic voting in general, bemoaning an electoral system the insider feels has been compromised by corporate privatization.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:36 PM

taking the fight to the terrorists ... so we do not have to face them at home

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:36 PM

*here*

G'evenin', gang!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at December 6, 2005 7:37 PM

Sam this is Important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Proof that America has no Plan for Iraq even today their is a 1 Billion Dollar Grant by the US Government for anyone who comes up with a plan to stabilize the 10 for US Strategic Cities in Irag.
Link is : http://www.fedgrants.gov/Applicants/AID/OM/BAG/RFA%26%23032%3B267-06-001/Grant.html



IRAQ: Strategic City Stabilization Initiative (SCSI)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

General Information


Document Type: Grants Notice
Funding Opportunity Number: RFA 267-06-001
Posted Date: Nov 30, 2005
Original Due Date for Applications: Jan 31, 2006
The Request for Application will be issued after December 16, 2005
Current Due Date for Applications: Jan 31, 2006
The Request for Application will be issued after December 16, 2005
Archive Date: Mar 02, 2006
Funding Instrument Type: Cooperative Agreement

Category of Funding Activity: Regional Development

Expected Number of Awards: Not Available.
Estimated Total Program Funding: $1,020,000,000.00
Award Ceiling: $1,320,000,000.00
Award Floor: $1,020,000,000.00
CFDA Number: 98.001 -- USAID Foreign Assistance for Programs Overseas

Cost Sharing or Matching Requirement: No

Eligible Applicants
Unrestricted (i.e., open to any type of entity above), subject to any clarification in text field entitled "Additional Information on Eligibility"

Agency Name
Agency for International Development, Overseas Missions, Iraq (CPA) USAID-Baghdad
Description
The United States Agency for International Development is seeking applications for an Assistance Agreement from qualified sources to design and implement a social and economic stabilization program impacting ten Strategic Cities, identified by the United States Government as critical to the defeat of the Insurgency in I

Posted by: alps at December 6, 2005 7:37 PM

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at December 6, 2005 07:35 PM

to save a few kuwati babies

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:37 PM

the war on terror is not a figure of speech. It is an inescapable calling of our generation

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:38 PM

Hillary may kiss Bush at the next State of the Union speech.

Lieberman and Hillary will be running down the aisle at breakneck speed over who gets to kiss Bush first.


Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:38 PM

Posted by: alps at December 6, 2005 07:37 PM

outsourcing again. very sick

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at December 6, 2005 7:38 PM

did anybody notice last thread's jinx?????

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 7:39 PM

Whoopdiefreakindo!!!


Hey Josh... (possible great sound clip)


OKAY TODAY IS OFFICIALLY...


WHOOPDIEFREAKINGDO DAY!


Get this important word to Howard Dean.. TO EVERY NON SEQUITOR THEY SAY, REPLY "WHOOOPDIEFREAKINGDO!!"


I like it! not boring

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:39 PM

Joe Biden too. It seems like they all are in bed with each other.....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:39 PM

Wow... just noticed AAR has 14 new affiliates.

Guess I've not been paying attention.

84 stations and growing. Maulkin, O'Reilly, et al, must have their panties all in a wad over that.

*snicker*

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:40 PM

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 07:38 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

i think i too saw that vision......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 7:40 PM

//*here*//

where's "here"

define "here"

there's no such place as "here"

it's an urban-myth, my friend

we've been duped

poland has been invaded

THIS IS WAR!!!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:41 PM

Hillary may kiss Bush at the next State of the Union speech.

Lieberman and Hillary will be running down the aisle at breakneck speed over who gets to kiss Bush first.


Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 07:38 PM

At least there are now two Dems interested in running against Hilary in the next Senate election. Two anti-war Dems, who will run vehemently on anti-war platforms.

Posted by: CMinCA at December 6, 2005 7:41 PM

WHO FOTTID?

Posted by: The Honorable Thomas M. Menino Mayor, City of Boston at December 6, 2005 7:41 PM

Three months later, DNA tests to start on Katrina bodies

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- DNA testing is to begin immediately on hundreds of still unidentified bodies found in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, Louisiana officials said, easing anguish for survivors awaiting word on their missing loved ones.


Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 7:42 PM

SAM you idiot.... Of course they want Spain and India... tapas and samosas.....


Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:42 PM

Did you hear? Al Franken and Ed Schultz are on ARMED FORCES RADIO! so I heard... is that tru Sam?

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:43 PM

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 07:39 PM

For you . . . .

"WHOOOPDIEFREAKINGDO!!"


Posted by: CMinCA at December 6, 2005 7:43 PM

i like "prolix"

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 07:35 PM

----------------------------------------------

Succinctly prolix.

(that is the long and short of it)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 7:43 PM

//I like it! not boring//

u wish

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:43 PM

If it's not torture, then it's OK to use it on Cheney


Perhaps the Justice Department could use this to speed up some investigations that are taking forever. How about that two-year investigation into who leaked Valerie Plame's CIA status? Stick Karl Rove on the water board and we can see who really leaked what in just a couple of minutes. That would be fair, wouldn't it? After all, his boss says it's not torture, right?

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:44 PM

i wonder if karl rove bought his staff a box of "Stop Snitchin" tee-shirts before they were pulled off the shelves yesterday.......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at December 6, 2005 7:44 PM

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 6, 2005 07:43 PM

//I like it! not boring//

(imho)

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:44 PM

Students Face Punishment for Anti-Bush Walkout

By Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez, Democracy Now!. Posted December 2, 2005.


Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 7:44 PM

Naked Joementum... Ick!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at December 6, 2005 7:45 PM

Hamas' former spritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was killed by Israel in March 2004.

Israel's Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz has ordered the army to resume the targeted killings of wanted Palestinian militants this week.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:45 PM

whoop dee damn doo

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:45 PM

Halliburton kicks money back to Cheney

Posted by: NEWS CONSUMER" at December 6, 2005 7:45 PM

whoop dee damn doo

where are you???

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at December 6, 2005 7:45 PM

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Sam...

How about Obama...!

Ya forgot Obama...!

Another leader against Dean...

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Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:46 PM

America can't take it anymore


The Bush administration has embraced torture as a key part of the "war on terror." Finally, members of Congress, the military and the CIA are speaking out against the abuse.

For years, the US has tortured people, many of them to death, to find Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Now we know they never existed. That means the US has been torturing innocent people to death for information they could not possibly have had.

The US has also justified torture to find the terrorists behind 9-11. But so far, only Arabs have been subjected to torture, while the "Dancing" Mossad agents arrested on 9-11 were simply allowed to return to Israel. As a result, more deaths-by-torture later, no more is known about 9-11 today than in 2001, when the US Government classified the evidence linking the arrested Israeli spies to 9-11.

The US Government is torturing innocent people to death, the very crime for which Saddam Hussein stands trial for.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:46 PM

Today

Israel launched a military clampdown in the occupied West Bank on Tuesday in the opening stages of what it vowed would be a harsh response to a Palestinian suicide bombing that killed five Israelis.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has given the green light for hits on leaders of Islamic Jihad, the group behind Monday's attack in central Israel, amid a re-election campaign against rightist foes who accuse him of being soft on the Palestinians.

"We will do all we can to strike at the attackers," Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said after Israel's security cabinet approved retaliation plans, which threatened a new spiral of violence that could bury hopes stirred by Israel's Gaza pullout.

Israel's army said it tightened restrictions on Palestinian movement in the West Bank and carried out raids that led to 14 arrests for the bombing at a busy shopping mall in Netanya. The bomber's father and three brothers were detained.

Israel also suspended VIP entry permits for Palestinian officials and would buffer its forces in border areas near the West Bank, Shalom said.

Security sources said Israel wanted to deal a heavy blow to Islamic Jihad, which is sworn to the destruction of the Jewish state, and send a message to the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas that he must crack down on militants.

But they said the response would be tempered to avoid drawing in Hamas, a more powerful Islamist group that has largely restrained itself during the ceasefire engineered by Abbas.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:47 PM

bush has been torturing me for years

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at December 6, 2005 7:48 PM

con't


"It will be a show of strength but not something that will get out of control," one Israeli security official said.

Shalom said Israel had no plans to re-enter Gaza, which it quit in September after 38 years of occupation. Ground operations would focus on the northern West Bank.

Islamic Jihad said it carried out the attack to avenge Israel's recent killing of senior members.

Gaza-based leaders of the group could not be reached on their mobile phones, suggesting they had switched them off for fear the signal could be used to pinpoint them in an Israeli air strike.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:48 PM

More doublespeak on torture


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been making the rounds in Europe this week, defending U.S. policies of "rendition" as a tactic in the war on terror. Amid recent revelations that there were secret CIA interrogation prisons in Europe, Rice insists the U.S. is doing nothing illegal. At the same time, she has assured German Chancellor Angela Merkel that "the U.S. would use 'every lawful means' to protect citizens from the threat of international terrorism."


Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 7:48 PM

taking the fight to the terrorists ... so we do not have to face them at home

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 07:36 PM

boring!

(imho)

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:49 PM

Whoopdiefreaking do! At least you have a house, tell that to the 9thward in New Orleans!

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

AAR keeps getting new affiliates. Yup, sounds like they're about to go belly up....

Posted by: Goblin Girl at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

Military Yanks Ed Schultz Show From Debut On Armed Forces Radio (from The Moderate Voice)


October 17, 2005
Barber Cancels Ed Schultz’s Debut on Armed Forces Radio

Just for review the Armed Forces Radio is radio that all the soldiers have access to overseas. Given that our military is supposed to be a non-partisan organization it's very strange that they have absolutely no progressive voice available to the troops.

Also Barber is the Pentagon hack that was telling the troops what they could and couldn't ask the President during the faked press conference to increase the President's image the other day. Now of course there is the debate whether this is punishment because Schultz's played the audio of her setting up the press conference on the air? The "official" Republican excuse today is that her boss isn't available to make the approval to put Schultz on the air.

No telling what tomorrow's excuse is going to be. Republicans are so creative in their lying at this point it should be interesting. If you'd like the hear what the Republicans are working so hard to keep off the air go over to the The Ed Schultz Show and have a listen from 3 to 6PM EST.

Posted by: CMinCA at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

Lowell Wiecker may run against that craven bastard?!Good move! He's got star power and he may just wipe the floor with that mealy-mouthed bastard.

Posted by: MarkinVT at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

Sadaam was way more managable..


I hear he's available?

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

//Sam...

How about Obama...!

Ya forgot Obama...!//

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 07:46 PM

so has bush

"now watch this drive"

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

con't

Islamic Jihad Spokesman Khader Habib says the militant group carried out the bombing in retaliation for Israeli aggression.

Islamic Jihad has identified the bomber as 21-year-old Lutfi Abu Salem from a small village near Jenin.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was quick to condemn the blast, denouncing it as an act of terrorism. His spokesman, Saeb Erekat, says the attack also undermines efforts to keep the ceasefire, or "hudna", alive.

We condemn this attack in Netanya. This harms Palestinian interests. This further sabotages the efforts being exerted to revive the peace process, and we still believe that exerting maximum effort to maintain the hudna between the two sides mutually is the … serves both sides' interests. -SAEB EREKAT

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Israel is blaming the Palestinian Authority for the attack.

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:50 PM

War Crimes, USA


In normal times, suggesting that the leaders of our country might have committed war crimes would violate a firm taboo in American political discussion. Yet in the post-Abu-Ghraib era—and especially as President Bush has quarreled with Congress over the McCain amendment prohibiting abuse of all detainees in U.S. custody—observers can no longer profess shock at the idea that criminal breaches of humanitarian law have occurred.

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:51 PM

WAR-DOG!!

u ain't nothing but a massive dog-fart

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:52 PM

con't

More violence could be politically damaging to both Abbas and Sharon.

Abbas, struggling to instil order ahead of a January parliamentary election, condemned the bombing and ordered suspects arrested. A Palestinian official said 13 Islamic Jihad activists from the West Bank were being held for questioning.

Sharon is seeking re-election in March as head of a new centrist party he founded after carrying out the Gaza pullout over fierce opposition within his rightist Likud party.

He has hinted his new party would be more open to compromise but has refused to resume peace talks with the Palestinians until they disarm militants.

Sharon billed the Gaza withdrawal as "disengagement" from conflict but rightist opponents he faces in the coming election say it rewarded Palestinian violence.

Palestinians accuse Israel of stoking conflict with army raids and settlement expansion in the West Bank where Sharon has vowed to keep large settlement blocs forever.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice condemned the Netanya bombing, the fifth in the Jewish state since a truce was declared in February. "This does call upon the Palestinians to fight terror," she told reporters en route to Berlin.

The Netanya bomber, from a village near the West Bank town of Tulkarm, was stopped by a security guard before he could enter the mall. But he detonated his explosives, killing the guard and four shoppers and wounding more than 40 people.

(Reuters)

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:52 PM

maybe we should send them some doughnuts? the quickest way to a man's hearth is through his stomach...

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at December 6, 2005 7:52 PM

(hee-hee)

mohammed the caller is cool

wtg!

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:54 PM

an air vehicle ????

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 7:54 PM

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It is Dean and Pelosi..

Out there by themselves..

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Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:54 PM

Coffee time.

maxa s-salaama

Posted by: -B at December 6, 2005 7:55 PM

war-dog

u gotta listen to this caller

*

(wake up, dog)

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:55 PM

an air vehicle ????

Posted by: red at December 6, 2005 07:54 PM

=================================================

Drones... Radio Controlled planes...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:55 PM

You only have to look close for the strings attached to PUPPET Man Joe dangling from the Pharmaceutical, Insurance, and now Oil Corporations.

Posted by: Hate_being _in_corrupticut at December 6, 2005 7:55 PM

MONTHS OF TERROR FOR MAN HELD BY 'MISTAKE'


"With knives or scissors they took away my clothes in silence ... They stripped me naked. I was terrified. "They tried to take off my pants. I tried to stop them so they beat me again. When I was naked I heard a camera."

Posted by: Nobody at December 6, 2005 7:56 PM

Posted by: War Dog at December 6, 2005 07:54 PM

u ain't nothing but a massive war-maggot

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 7:57 PM

Records Show Burns' Abramoff Meetings
By MARY CLARE JALONICK
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON — Sen. Conrad Burns and his staff met Jack Abramoff's lobbying team on at least eight occasions and collected $12,000 in donations around the time that the lawmaker took legislative action favorable to Abramoff's clients in the Northern Mariana Islands, records show.


Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2005 7:57 PM

war-dog

u gotta listen to this caller

*

(wake up, dog)

Posted by: air-ono at December 6, 2005 07:55 PM

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ha ha..

I did..

I'm not sure he has the inside info...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2005 7:57 PM

This war was based on lies so W could invade and be a war pResident. How can Lieberman support this? Cheney continues to lie about a connection between 9/11 and Iraq. Cheney is a lying sleaze. Wake up sheeple! you are right Sam, this is a debacle. Once again the person in the forefront speaking truth to power is Howard Dean. DEAN 2008!

Posted by: Frank in NJ at December 6, 2005 7:57 PM