Sunshine is guilty.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 28, 2005 03:47 PM

I really feel bad now Jim. I gotta go though, my Brother needs to use the cpu. Do me a favor and tell A. that I was not being an asshole by joking around about something so serious. I would appreciate it. My blog friends mean a whole lot to me.

Posted by not sam at December 28, 2005 03:45 PM

When are you going to stop the abuse on this BLOG!

If you think I'm making it up, ban me.

I am not. The abuse is real!

Majority Report STOP THE ABUSE ON YOUR BLOG!

Now they want to ban sunshine.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 03:49 PM

I said "IF."

I only want the ability to block harassers to be available on this blog.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 03:50 PM

Communicating on this blog is difficult if we get into personal problem solving. In order for A. to understand you she needs to catch every post, which is not always possible. I know her personally and what she went through with her brother's suicide. If you want to talk to her better you should email. This blog is full of interruptions and distractions. Also, Jim is a good counselor and friend.

The war on sunshine.

Why does sunshine hate our freedom?

Why does sunshine hate our troops?

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 03:56 PM

If "Sunshine" is guilty of preditory abuse, I hope "Sunshine" spends many years in prison.

Can the sun shine behind prison walls?

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:00 PM

If "Sunshine" is guilty of preditory abuse, I hope "Sunshine" spends many years in prison.

The war on sunshine.

Why does sunshine hate our freedom?

Why does sunshine hate our troops?

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 03:56 PM

_____________

Take Iraq, e.g.

Fulla sunshine.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Posted by: Sunshiiiine ... in my eeeeyes ... makes me bliiiind at December 28, 2005 04:00 PM

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 03:15 PM

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 03:19 PM

preditor--the warm up act for a French lecture.

The sun did not shine in Iraq until we liberated it with a big blast of freedom, no wait that was a car bomb.

Posted by: Crank "If Arnold Can Learn To Spell It, Anyone Can" Bait at December 28, 2005 04:02 PM

Fine.

Predator.

BRUUUUUUCE

Ever wonder, even though Bush's approval is at 38-or-whatever percent, who are those 38%? Why isn't he at zero?

Says The Boss:

... We forget that every adult was brought up on fairy tales so it's natural to go on and, politically for example, want to believe that your President is a nice, honest man. The inability to turn to an adult perspective once you get to the age where you have some political weight is a great tragedy, and this is a period of history when it seems the most obvious type of disguise is on display to the entire world and yet those are the people who are still in power.

Posted by not sam at December 28, 2005 03:45 PM

______________

Wonder if Bruce is read him some Alice Miller?

Methinks yes.

Stick to your guns. If you move an inch then you are a flip flopper. Flip Flop Flippity Flop.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:02 PM

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

Actually, Crank is quite right with the Arnold Crack.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Albert Einstein

Always spell it preditor. Correct other people when they use the old spelling and accuse them of hating sunshine. Put presure on the dictionary company to change the spelling in their books. Spy on people to insure that they never again use the old ways.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Albert Einstein

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 28, 2005 04:06 PM

______________

Oh, yeah?

Well, fuck you.

I got mah own credo.

Here tis:

"We can't create problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we solved them."

I bet George Bush likes fruit cake, but his would be made out of shredded thousand dollar bills and topped with a sauce made from dead baby.

Bgurl was just remarking

on how many peeps get depressed

on these winter holidays when their

expectations go unrealised. depression

is a toughie to deal with as we know already.

Actually, AKAbill, I got the crap harrassed out of me when I first came on here. Ignore it, ignore it, ignore it. Are you gonna let someone who doesn't even know you control your life?

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:07 PM

Fine.

Just don't harass or abuse innocent victims.

...and Majority Report, please take responsibility for this blog and allow us to block IPs and NICs!

Actually, AKAbill, I got the crap harrassed out of me when I first came on here.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:12 PM

_______________

A predatory "r" is still har"r"assing this blog.

First you ban fruitcakes, then it will be cup cakes, then pastries, and then before you know it it will be all bakery goods and a man will not be able to make a decent ham sandwhich. Thats all I am saying. Plus the concept that Sunshine is fucking with anybody is beyond parody.

"When I said I wanted to be someone, I should have been more specific." -Lily Tomlin

WTF! Ban SJ? Laura Flanders would protest such an outrageous act.

BAN THE BUN!

See that is how it starts.

This Is A

No Fruitcake Zone!!!

Shutup, Bucksnort!

Lily Tomlin said it best.

"No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."

BAN THE BUN!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 28, 2005 04:18 PM

_____________

BAN, THE ROLL-ON!

There is almost nothing more American than Spam. It fed our troops in WWII and generations of Punk Rockers. Spam maynot be food, but you can eat it.

I think there's a piece of fruitcake following me.

BAN, THE ROLL-ON!

Now they are going after Teen Spirit.

I got the crap harrassed out of me when I first came on here.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:12 PM

------------------------------------------------

You were? I hope that I was not one of the culprits? (Unless you are ilo, in which case you completely misconstrued the intent behind my earliest comment)

On an unrelated note: For some inexplicable reason I continually misread your signature as "Priss" (from Blade Runner).

It keeps me a little off-balance.

p.s. There is only one 'r' in harass. (I have given myself a straight line...must...resist...cheap...joke)

There is almost nothing more American than Spam. It fed our troops in WWII and generations of Punk Rockers. Spam maynot be food, but you can eat it.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:21 PM

____________

Crikey, mate.

Sure, you can eat it.

But it tastes like shit.

Why does sunshine hate our troops?

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 03:56 PM

Sunshine took my shoe.....

Posted by: R'll Be Back!

I would call that harrasment if I had the slightest idea what it ment. I love mild ignorence.

Baghdad on the Mississippi
A frayster reports from New Orleans.

Compiled by Kevin Arnovitz
Posted Wednesday, Dec. 28, 2005, at 2:09 PM ET

It's beautiful here, if you're only looking at the sky. It's warm, and a few trees are left alive. Wait, some entire blocks look normal. New Orleans after Katrina is just as the author said, post-war Europe, rubble where history once stood, landmarks rising ghostly against a now peaceful sky, dusty people trying to reassemble their lives stone by stone. The closest equivalent now would be present day Baghdad. Some areas downright lawless, some almost normal. You can drive down St. Charles Street and still find lovely mansions, some with piles of sheet rock and ruined furniture in front. Who knows what's behind those shining doors?

Some parts of town you can drive for blocks and see nothing but debris and row after row of abandoned, blackened homes. But it's not fire, it's filthy water like a bathtub ring at eight, six, four, two feet. Cars piled against trees, boats tipped drunken in the medians of the boulevard. The corpses of trees stacked haphazardly between lanes.

http://www.slate.com/id/2133417/

"Where does a masochist live?

In abasement."

John Jacobs

BAN, THE ROLL-ON!

Now they are going after Teen Spirit.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:23 PM

_____________

Yep.

That's what it smells like.

p.s. There is only one 'r' in harass. (I have given myself a straight line...must...resist...cheap...joke)

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 28, 2005 04:23 PM

Oh, shit. Someone smack me.

"BAN, THE ROLL-ON!"

Mum's the word!

(keep it under your arm)

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:12 PM

Well, these postsers are organized sadists, IMHO.

They want their victims to believe that they are "asking for it." They want to portray anyone who calls them on their organized cruelty as a "nut."

This is a lie. They are abusers and nothing more.

I would hope a criminal investigation into this blog would demonstrate that to be the case.

That would not be necessarry if Majority Report would take responsibility for this blog and allow posters to block IPs and NICs.

If Majority Report does not allow this blocking or continues to turn a blind eye to this abuse, I think they should be criminaly liable.

A predatory "r" is still har"r"assing this blog.

Posted by: R'll Be Back! at December 28, 2005 04:15 PM

_____________

Is this thing on?

Going back to New Orleans tomarrow for a couple of days. We are staying in a hotel in our own city and will be visitng our place, plus the one we are going to be renting. We will then have three residences spread out over two states.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 04:27 PM

No wonder you can't grasp Anarchy.

You aren't fit for such freedom.

u guys are too juicy

(& cool, too)

i had a dumb zolof joke

but forget it

it pales into insignificance alongside ur sparkly posts

*

(i hate this blog)

: )

Parting comment from leper to hooker:

Keep the tip.

Well, these postsers are organized sadists, IMHO.
Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 04:27 PM

Wow! I'm a sadist! Before I even turn twenty, sweet!

We really go through the kaleidoscope of the human experience on this blog.

Wow! I'm a sadist! Before I even turn twenty, sweet!

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:31 PM

Schwing!

The 4-Variable Buffy Personality Test

18% amorality, 45% passion, 36% spirituality, 45% selflessness

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 12:40 AM

45% amorality, 54% passion, 81% spirituality, 45% selflessness

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 01:08 AM

63% amorality, 36% passion, 81% spirituality, 45% selflessness

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:19 AM

54% amorality, 81% passion, 81% spirituality, 63% selflessness

Dawn is a person driven by her love for her friends and her desire to make a difference. Perhaps you are, too. You're willing to do whatever is necessary to do what is right for those you care about, and sometimes this can get you in a little bit of trouble.

Most of all, however, you have a heart of gold.

BUHAHAHAHA...bullshit!

BUHAHAHAHA...bullshit!

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 04:33 PM

Everybody run!

The homecoming queen's got a gun!

Nobody has a heart of gold.

Too bad he can't express it all that well.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 04:33 PM

Awww. Buffy hates me. Too bad.

Both Ono and Nobody are both moral leapers. We now have the test results to prove it.

Posted by: R'll Be Back!

------------

I would call that harrasment if I had the slightest idea what it ment. I love mild ignorence.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:25 PM

----------

p.s. There is only one 'r' in harass.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 28, 2005 04:23 PM

_____________

Refer to the explanation above or, for pun explication, google the following:

Arnold Schwarzenegger + Terminator + famous movie line "I'll Be Back." + puns defined + har"r"assment

Nobody has a heart of gold.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:35 PM

----------------------------------------------

As puns go, this is a summation of my relentless cynicism.

Both Ono and Nobody are both moral leapers. We now have the test results to prove it.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:36 PM

Shall we discuss your rigid morality, empotional deadness and self centeredness?

18% amorality, 45% passion, 36% spirituality, 45% selflessness

I didn't break 50 on any of these bitches. I guess I am a very moral person who is not very passionate or spiritual and is a little bit greedy. What ever.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:33 PM

so true

*

nobody scores //81% passion//

yeah, right

(eat me)

i got more passion in my little pinkie (a finger; not my dick), than that onion has in his entire body

i got more passion in my little pinkie (a finger; not my dick), than that onion has in his entire body

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 04:39 PM

you're the deadest of all Tinman

Shall we discuss your rigid morality, empotional deadness and self centeredness?

Damn, I am a Southern Baptist.

//moral leapers//

leapers or lepers

keep the tip, hun

(heh-heh)

Damn, I am a Southern Baptist.

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:41 PM

buhahahaha

dr,

Considerable license is required to pun across films and yet I like it.

(and missed it the first time around)

In June 1917, the Espionage Act was passed. It read in part: "Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty in the military or naval forces of the United States, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment of not more than 20 years, or both." This act cast a wide net and civil liberties were trampled. In Vermont, for example, a minister was sentenced to 15 years in prison for writing a pamphlet, distributed to five persons, in which he claimed that supporting the war was wrong for a Christian.

Perhaps the best-known target of the act was noted Socialist Eugene V. Debs who, after visiting three fellow Socialists in a prison in June 1918, spoke out across the street from the jail for two hours. He was arrested and found guilty, but, before sentencing, Debs famously told the judge: "Your honor, years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

Room service is here. Conichiwha Bitches.

All the hate on this blog is getting out of hand. Everybody calm down. Nobody is going to get banned.

u rigged ur results, nobody

ur actual score: 100% amorality, 0% passion, 0% spirituality, 0% selflessness

keep the tip,

u onion.

(heh-heh)

But as Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart wrote in The Collapse of Chaos,

"If our brains were simple enough for us to understand them, we'd be so simple that we couldn't."

dr,

Considerable license is required to pun across films and yet I like it.

(and missed it the first time around)

Posted by: Crank "Sarrah Connorr" Bait at December 28, 2005 04:43 PM

_________________

I figgered it musta gone unnoticed on account a it warn't picked up on straight off.

Like most punsters, I hate, hate, hate 'splainin' 'em, and yet, I was so enamored w/this'n, that I felt compelled to.

I seldom highlight my bird-droppings, but I thought that'n was most choice.

//Room service is here.//

Posted by: Spike at December 28, 2005 04:44 PM

make mine a jack daniels & a ho-chaser

(take care, spike)

_____

Nobody is going to get banned.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 04:45 PM

--------------------------------------------

The throng cheers wildly. Then, a pause before the pun sinks in.

The throng shuffles out.

Too bad he can't express it all that well.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 04:36 PM

"You're willing to do whatever is necessary to do what is right for those you care about, and sometimes this can get you in a little bit of trouble."

Since when was making it easy the right thing to do?

Review: My Breakfast With Blassie

One of the most bizarre films I have ever seen, My Breakfast With Blassie, a sorta-documentary of an actual breakfast shared by comic Andy Kaufman and pro wrestling legend "Classy" Freddie Blassie, is full of sage advice (charm the waitress, Blassie said, "so we don't have to tip her much when we leave") and hilarious one-line jabs ("Keep walkin' till your hat floats," Blassie said to a frustrated group of women who walked out of the diner).

The breakfast really has no premise, other than to mock the serious My Dinner With Andre, which Amazon.com describes as "the most talked-about art-house hit of 1981" that includes a two-hour conversation that's "the kind of mesmerizing, soul-searching, life-affirming exploration that we feel privileged." So you can see why it was so important for Blassie, in this film, to reveal how much toilet paper he uses when he takes a shit.

That disclosure comes when Blassie and Kaufman, two giants of celebrity, discuss their disdain for fans who want not only an autograph but a handshake, which they view as some kind of germ orgy. Blassie is especially disgusted if the fan has just come from the bathroom. "Maybe their fingers went through the tissue," Blassie says. "What am I gonna shake hands with these pencil neck geeks?"

"Some guys use only two, three pieces of tissue," Blassie continues. "I use half a roll. I'll be darn sure my finger doesn't go through."

Along with being the wizard of wiping, Blassie also shows his smarts in medicine ("Have you read the latest article on herpes?"), socioeconomics (referring to a pregnant waitress, he predicts "That's another one we're gonna have to feed on welfare") and etiquette (lambasting Kaufman for thanking the host for seating them, Blassie asks, "What did you thank him for? He didn't do anything he's not supposed to do").

The rest of the breakfast conversation is equally scatter-brained. Kaufman seeks advice on the future of his wrestling career after Jerry Lawler made a neckbrace a necessary part of Andy's wardrobe. Blassie tells stories about Iran and Japan that go nowhere fast, and I found myself thankful this movie lasted only 60 minutes. Too bad Kauf

crank's results: 100% wanker 10% ho-chaser

(heh-heh)

What is the Buffy personality test?

"Never forget that everything
Hitler did in Germany was 'legal'.

Cowardice asks the question - is it safe?

Expediency asks the question - is it politic?

Vanity asks the question - is it popular?

But conscience asks the question - is it right?

And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;

but one must take it because it is right."

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Since when is being a defensive asshole the right thing to do?

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 04:46 PM

nope ono...that's pretty close to me...no rigging anything...

Since when is being a defensive asshole the right thing to do?

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 04:50 PM

Since when are your simple perceptions the rule of law as to what constitues the reality of anothers heart?

shell's results: 100% babe ; (not bad) fellatio

Wow! I'm a sadist! Before I even turn twenty, sweet!

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 04:31 PM

It's no achievemnt.

I hope if crimes have been committed here, the people responsible will go to jail.

Where does one report organized harassment on a blog if not to the management of the blog?

If this is not a public space, but rather a trap for unsuspecting victims through which they fall prey to organized harassment, then Majority Report should put a notice at the top of the main page, warning visitors that they may become subject to organized harassment.

Once they do that, I would think they become criminally liable for the abuse which they allowed to go on prior to posting the notice.

If they do not post a warning and this IS a public space and they continue to allow orgainized harassment of random visitors to this blog, they should also be criminally liable for their lack of due diligence in protecting visitors.

Majority Report, change this blog.

Majority Report, allow IP and NIC blocking!

oh, ffs

someone give bob the test

You scored higher than 56% on morality

You scored higher than 41% on repose

You scored higher than 53% on spirituality

You scored higher than 79% on selflessness

----------------------------------------

what does "repose" mean?

neener neener neener

rustle's results: 100% whiner 100% harasser 100% advocate of ignore function

Nobody is going to get banned.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 04:45 PM

That is a good thing, but it is not sufficient for blogger safety.

This blog needs to allow posters to block other posters they feel are harassing them.

This is not spam, it is a protest.

I am standing up against harassment.

I am standing up to bullies.

Now if only I could change my hands for a pair that worked better...

Majority Report, allow IP and NIC blocking!

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 04:52 PM

Damn you. You've destoryed my revelry.

what does "repose" mean?

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:53 PM

I didn't know there was a repose...negative passion?

Vaclev Havel, the writer who was imprisoned for his heroic defiance of oppression in what was Czechoslovakia, wrote some years ago that "Our main enemy today is our own bad traits" which he said were "indifference to the common good, vanity, personal ambition, selfishness, and rivalry."

oh, I get it. If you score higher than 50% you are passionate, if you score under 50% you have "repose."

what does "repose" mean?

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:53 PM

_____________

repose: in modeling, when the angle's wrong for the camera.

synonym: revogue

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 04:54 PM

They always call the protesters whiners.

We are never whiners, but protesters.

I am standing up to bullies.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 04:54 PM

I'm having a "Character Counts Week" flashback...whoo.

how embarrassing. I'm a cold fish and don't even know it. I guess that's what comes from saying I'd prefer soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

how embarrassing. I'm a cold fish and don't even know it. I guess that's what comes from saying I'd prefer soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:57 PM

No...I said that too...but at least you ain't ono...he's got a battery where his heart belongs...

soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:57 PM

I'd prefer, deserve, and will have both...and then some.

I guess that's what comes from saying I'd prefer soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:57 PM

Eh...I'd be lucky if a member of the opposite sex actually bothered to look at me. I've considered being a lesbian, but women are nuts. Can't do it. Too scary.

....and I'm disappointed in myself for having scored only a measly 53% spirituality. So I'm not passionate OR spiritual. Oh well, I guess I can comfort myself with thoughts that at least I'm selfless, but that somehow seems selfish on my part to do so.

neener neener neener

Posted by: I've jsut changed my ip and my nick so screw you dummy at December 28, 2005 04:54 PM

That is exactly the sort of abuse and "getting around of the rules" in order to impose your abuse on other bloggers that makes what you do potentially criminal.

If someone blocks your IP and you change it in order to continue harassing that blogger, you should go to jail.

The Blog should know if a poster has been blocked by another poster and know if that poster has changed their NIC in order to force their posts on another blogger.

There is no need for any poster to know that their posts have been blocked by another poster.

If you don't know you've been blocked, why would you change your information in order to continue harassing?

cathy

um, which c-word did i promise not to use

the 4-letter across c-word

or the 10-letter c-sucker down word

because i got bawdy & used the former

(it's a guy thing)

Here are my results.

Glorificus
72% amorality, 63% passion, 54% spirituality, 36% selflessness
You probably have a complicated, multi-faceted personality. Kind of like Glory-Ben-Glorificus.

Passionate and driven with a spiritual side that comes out at times, a healthy taste for the finer things in life and a willingness to do what's necessary to achieve your ends. You're assertive and have no problems standing up for yourself. And, push come to shove, you're the closest anyone's ever come to straight-up beating the Slayer and her gang.

Eh...I'd be lucky if a member of the opposite sex actually bothered to look at me. I've considered being a lesbian, but women are nuts. Can't do it. Too scary.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 05:00 PM

grab one by the ears and steer hun...men are dumb...I am one

And this is where she fell asleep, unconscious...

Deep inside, she forgets that girl...

saying I'd prefer soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:57 PM

______________

Perhaps you are caught in the net of the narrowness of the question.

Kick-ass sex can, in and of itself, be something of a soul-searching conversation, can't it?

And soul-searching conversation can sometimes gratify like kick-ass sex.

Perhaps it's just a false dilemma?

What is amorality?

//if you score under 50% you have "repose."//

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:56 PM

it means u're composed when u're getting it up the arse

>>.he's got a battery where his heart belongs...
Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 04:59 PM

er....speaking as someone with an implanted defibbrillator (got it at age 36) I think I can sympathize with anyone who has a battery for a heart.

I guess I can comfort myself with thoughts that at least I'm selfless, but that somehow seems selfish on my part to do so.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:00 PM

Then I will take away the guilt by noting I scored higher in selflessness...and perhaps is I can piss you off a little by it it'll raise your passion score...

Actually I'm just glad not to be alone with the selfless thing...

>>Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:04 PM

Thanks for that visual, ono.

What is amorality?

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:04 PM

it means u're a prick

I guess that's what comes from saying I'd prefer soul-searching conversation to kick-ass sex.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 04:57 PM

------------------------------------------------

(Bait makes note in black book, "Platonic only")

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:05 PM

i'm a weak person, cathy

but i got a heart of gold

Repose?

It's both a noun and a werb.

Nounishly:

Freedom from activity (work or strain or responsibility). The absence of mental stress or anxiety. A disposition free from stress or emotion.

Verbashly:

To put or confide something in a person or thing.
To be inherent or innate in. To Lie when dead, as in "Mao reposes in his mausoleum". To lean in a comfortable resting position, or to put in a horizontal position. Or to put something (eg trust) in something.

er....speaking as someone with an implanted defibbrillator (got it at age 36) I think I can sympathize with anyone who has a battery for a heart.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:04 PM

really...wow...I've never met any Borg before...except for my niece

result of rapid growth and the nerves and or valves not growing appropriately?

I have the highest amorality thus far. woo hoo. I still dont know what amorality means though.

>>Perhaps it's just a false dilemma?
Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 05:02 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking all the way through the test. This OR That? Where's that inevitable third option? I can always come up with a third option.

I wouldn't be too proud for being selfless.

Like the stewardess says, "Make sure you put the mask over your own face, then you can help your neighbor put theirs on."

I guess I can comfort myself with thoughts that at least I'm selfless, but that somehow seems selfish to do so.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:00 PM

_______________

Now you're starting to sound like Woody Allen.

I have the highest amorality thus far. woo hoo. I still dont know what amorality means though.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:07 PM

lack of moral structure...

things like "every situation is different" morally..

.

//(Bait makes note in black book, "Platonic only")//

LOL!!

crank's little black platonic book

I've considered being a lesbian, but women are nuts. Can't do it. Too scary.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 05:00 PM

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(Bait makes note in black book, "Perceptive and realistic")

Good.

Maybe I'll be gone soon.

Majority Report, allow IP and NIC blocking.

Bullshit, I am a moral man.

I wouldn't be too proud for being selfless.

Like the stewardess says, "Make sure you put the mask over your own face, then you can help your neighbor put theirs on."

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:07 PM

I can survive about anything...wanna see the scars?

That's exactly what I was thinking all the way through the test. This OR That? Where's that inevitable third option? I can always come up with a third option.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:07 PM

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Not me.

You're either with us or against us.

Bullshit, I am a moral man.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:09 PM

it doesn't mean that you're not...it means more that you recogize the fluid nature of morality...

What is right in one situation is wrong in another etc...

>>result of rapid growth and the nerves and or valves not growing appropriately?
Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:07 PM

yes, plus stress, and you get a cardiac arrest in your mid-thirties, although I'd had one as a child too. Back then they called it "idiopathic seizures".

Still, I'm very healthy, You'd actually never know by looking at me that my heart's funky.

I can survive about anything...wanna see the scars?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:09 PM

No, I don't. It's not that impressive. Cockroaches survive. Living is different than surviving.

crank's little black platonic book

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:08 PM

crank think's to himself, "hmmm, how did that pube get there... hmmm, maybe i should change the title to my little black book of pubes"

(hmmm...)

stopped the blog dead...

preemptive war? you think that you're going to be attacked so you attack first

defensive war? you've been attacked and taken damage then you retaliate

both are killing...

Bullshit, I am a moral man.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:09 PM

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it doesn't mean that you're not...it means more that you recogize the fluid nature of morality...

What is right in one situation is wrong in another etc...

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:10 PM

_____________

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Similarly, if you want your freedom of speech protected, you are obliged to protect the freedom of speech of others, especially those who say appalling things. This means you will find yourself occasionally in the company of revolting people because you are defending their right to express revolting ideas. Never mind. Oliver Wendell Holmes, the great American jurist, memorably observed that it takes no effort to defend the freedom of speech with which you agree, but the real test of principles is to protect the freedom of speech you detest. That lovely man Voltaire said it this way, "Monsieur l'abbe, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."

Of course Voltaire was just saying that, and died comfortably in bed.

No, I don't. It's not that impressive. Cockroaches survive. Living is different than surviving.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:13 PM

You need to first survive if you wish to live do you not?

The question is would I risk my own ass to save another?

Yes, in most cases even my enemies...I would justify this and quell my own internal fears by saying that I can survive where others can not so the risk is not so large.

I do not fear fear...I work with it.

hmmm, how did that pube get there...

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:14 PM

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I book 'em, Dan-ono.

(Probably wasted this old TV show reference on a 'roo)

sorry, bob

i led u astray with my definition of "amorality"

i was being facetious

it really means u're a shameless homosexual & should kill ur-self

(my bad)

& btw, don't harass rustle

I think the problem is people don't know the US Constitution and the first 10 Amendments known as the Bill of Rights or what it meant to the world when it was first put down in writing. I don't think people realize the kind of governments there were in the world at that time - - the type of governments that had kings who claimed divine right of rule from a higher Father and wealthy royality who believed they were rich because God blessed them and that made them superior to the "ignorant masses" who are treated their as slaves and servants.

What has changed is that rights are written down, people are educated and can read and the President took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. The rule of law keeps us protected from the tyranny of despotic rulers and tolerance to the different religions and races among the people. Apparent Bush doesn't know the reality of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights because he "is not a lawyer".

Posted by: RatsOnRice at December 28, 2005 05:16 PM

You can't yell fire in a crowded theater if there is no fire.

You can not verbally abuse your spouse.

You may not verbally abuse your neighbor or co-worker.

Harassment is illegal.

Majority Report, stop the harassment on this BLOG!

Majority Report, allow IP and NIC blocking!

No, you do not.

You would think that because you think highly of yourself.

Until you get your ass reamed, then you backpedal.

You can't admit your wrongs, at least not here.

That makes you a George Bush-like being.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at December 28, 2005 05:16 PM

It does when morality is tested on a rigid scale of black and white choices as compared to seeing shades of grey and complications.

a·mor·al

Not admitting of moral distinctions or judgments; neither moral nor immoral.

Amorality is the quality of having no concept of right or wrong.

However, "Amoral" must be distinguished from "immoral" in that amoral persons either do not possess ethical notions at all as a result of an unusual upbringing or inborn traits (see the so-called Antisocial personality disorder) or else do not subscribe to any moral code. This latter may in turn mean strong individualistic leanings that do not get codified into a universally applicable system. Someone may maintain that he will do as he likes and let others do the same, if they so desire, without turning this into a general principle as, for example, Kant's categorical imperative would require. Because whoever says so only expresses his personal preference or informs about the way he is going to act, the position is consistent. An amoralist might also make a stronger point that moral systems are arbitrary and unfounded on the whole, which is an epistemic or anthropological claim and not an ethical one. For this principled sort of amoralist, see Stirner and to a degree Marquis de Sade.

>>lack of moral structure...
things like "every situation is different" morally..

It's moral to believe that every situatiion is different. If you come to the same conclusion after thinking about it, fine, but it's moral to give each situation it's due.

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:18 PM

Don't harass anyone.

Bob26003, some advice:

The Wolf Credo

Respect the elders.

Teach the young.

Cooperate with the
pack.

Play when you can.

Hunt when you must.

Rest in between.

Share your
affections.

Voice your feelings.

Leave your mark.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 28, 2005 05:17 PM

nope

one of our roo-bands wrote a song about hawaii-5-oh

i'll post it when i get my famous web-site up

Does this mean that I have a tendency for antisocial behavior disorders.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:22 PM

yes

& they're very serious, bob

u may have to enroll in an accounting course

>>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at December 28, 2005 05:16 PM

BTW, nice Inigo Montoya reference.

The lines between right and wrong are definately bs. Everything is subjective. For instance, Muslims are people too, with feelings.

Amoral would be changing your IP in order to insure that you can harass your abuse victim.

Amoral would be having the ability to allow abuse victims to block the posts of their abusers, but not doing so for any reason other than it is somehow logistically not possible.

Age does not indicate wisdom neccesarily.

It may just indicate an amount of time to have experiences.

ok, i'm going to buy a washing machine

(my knickers are funky)

& walking to the laundrette is boring, boring, boring

No, you do not.

You would think that because you think highly of yourself.

Until you get your ass reamed, then you backpedal.

You can't admit your wrongs, at least not here.

That makes you a George Bush-like being.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:20 PM

Again since when do your simplistic perceptions dictate the reality of what constitutes anothers heart?

You can of course show evidence of this or are you doing as rustle is doing and simply making unfounded claims with o supportive evidence?

You hate me and everything I say or do will be colored by that hate but it is something that you own and not I.

Show me where I've harmed anyone. Show me the scars.

Posted by: Bronte'saurus at December 28, 2005 05:21 PM

Wolves are predatory.

People who are predatory belong in prison, locked safely away from the general population.

Morality exists as a concept that functions to make cynicism look bad.

Thank god for televangelists who function to keep that reality crystal clear.

>>The lines between right and wrong are definately bs. Everything is subjective. For instance, Muslims are people too, with feelings.

Exactly.

I think it all depends on who defines "morality". I don't agree with black and white morality, I think it shows a lack of imagination and compassion. AND it inevitably leads to hypocrisy.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 28, 2005 05:27 PM

We call that false morality.

It's moral to believe that every situatiion is different. If you come to the same conclusion after thinking about it, fine, but it's moral to give each situation it's due.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:21 PM

This is what I believe...There are some black and whites that much is sure...but mostly it's all shades of grey...

It's just that the test isn't set up for such fine distinctions.

The problem of obedience is not wholly psychological. The form and shape of society and the way it is developing have much to do with it. There was a time, perhaps, when people were able to give a fully human response to any situation because they were fully absorbed in it as human beings. But as soon as there was a division of labor things changed. Beyond a certain point, the breaking up of society into people carrying out narrow and very special jobs takes away from the human quality of work and life. A person does not get to see the whole situation but only a small part of it, and is thus unable to act without some kind of overall direction. He yields to authority but in doing so is alienated from his own actions.

Even Eichmann was sickened when he toured the concentration camps, but he had only to sit at a desk and shuffle papers. At the same time the man in the camp who actually dropped Cyclon-b into the gas chambers was able to justify his behavior on the ground that he was only following orders from above.
Thus there is a fragmentation of the total human act; no one is confronted with the consequences of his decision to carry out the evil act. The person who assumes responsibility has evaporated. Perhaps this is the most common characteristic of socially organized evil in modern society.

-The Perils of Obedience by Stanley Milgram

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:24 PM

The line between right and wrong begins at your person.

Your mind is a part of your person.

Other people may not infringe with your person via physical or emotional abuse.

If you take the predators out of the eco system the herds become extinct.

It does when morality is tested on a rigid scale of black and white choices as compared to seeing shades of grey and complications.

_______________

The above makes no sense whatsoever; amorality is the state of being indifferent to morality and/or feeling superior to it; it is not, as you described it:

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[being amoral] doesn't mean that you're not [moral] ...it means more that you recogize the fluid nature of morality...

What is right in one situation is wrong in another etc...

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:10 PM

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No.

That is not, at all, what amorality means.

You go on, in a subsequent post, to provide a definition that is inexact, but close enough for guv'mint work:

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a·mor·al

Not admitting of moral distinctions or judgments; neither moral nor immoral.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:20 PM

============

Bob provides a pretty good definition of amorality, w/historical references, which is additionally valuable in that it distinguishes betwixt amorality and immorality, an important distinction.

__________

Amorality is the quality of having no concept of right or wrong.

However, "Amoral" must be distinguished from "immoral" in that amoral persons either do not possess ethical notions at all as a result of an unusual upbringing or inborn traits (see the so-called Antisocial personality disorder) or else do not subscribe to any moral code. This latter may in turn mean strong individualistic leanings that do not get codified into a universally applicable system. Someone may maintain that he will do as he likes and let others do the same, if they so desire, without turning this into a general principle as, for example, Kant's categorical imperative would require. Because whoever says so only expresses his personal preference or informs about the way he is going to act, the position is consistent. An amoralist might also make a stronger point that moral systems are arbitrary and unfounded on the whole, which is an epistemic or anthropological claim and not an ethical one. For this principled sort of amoralist, s

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:26 PM

Twit.

What is wrong with Akaka Bill? Did someone hurt him?

(...)

For this principled sort of amoralist, see Stirner and to a degree Marquis de Sade.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:20 PM

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So the point?

You gave a poor and misleading initial definition for amorality, Nobs, which is why I, jokingly, demurred.

You (of course) then justified your poor definition by doing a do-over that bore no relation whatsoever to what you originally said.

Nother words, biz as usual for Nobs.

Good work. You made par again.

Thirteen Virtues

by Benjamin Franklin

Temperance

Eat not to dullness; drink not to elevation

Silence

Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation.

Order

Let all your things have their places; let each part of your business have its time.

Resolution

Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve.

Frugality

Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself; i.e., waste nothing.

Industry

Lose no time; be always employ'd in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions.

Sincerity

Use no hurtful deceit; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly.

Justice

Wrong none by doing injuries, or omitting the benefits that are your duty.

Moderation

Avoid extremes; forbear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve.

Cleanliness

Tolerate no uncleanliness in body, clothes, or habitation.

Tranquillity

Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable.

Chastity

Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's peace or reputation.

Humility

Imitate Jesus and Socrates.

Amoral means without morals (either good or bad.)

... We forget that every adult was brought up on fairy tales so it's natural to go on and, politically for example, want to believe that your President is a nice, honest man. The inability to turn to an adult perspective once you get to the age where you have some political weight is a great tragedy, and this is a period of history when it seems the most obvious type of disguise is on display to the entire world and yet those are the people who are still in power.

Posted by not sam at December 28, 2005 03:45 PM

He is absolutely correct, of course. Chimp has built his legacy on adults' childishness.

Posted by: Bronte'saurus at December 28, 2005 05:28 PM

Obedience to power would be a central tenet of a Wolf pack.

That's why we hope for more in humans.

We strive for the imperfect and fluid rule of law, for in it there are moments of clearly defined expression: this is within the law, this is without it.

As for gray areas, they are resolved at your person. The other may not interfere with your person, physically or emotionally.

>>Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:32 PM

don't know for sure, but I think it may be a continuation of an argument a few days back about what we'd like to see changed about this blog.

In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself.- The Ego and Its Own, p 15.

Wolves are predatory.

People who are predatory belong in prison, locked safely away from the general population.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 05:26 PM

______________

Ah, but you forget, Rustle.

As the numbers of wolves wane, so do foxes increase.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:35 PM

All yeah, that was ridiculous.

"You go on, in a subsequent post, to provide a definition that is inexact, but close enough for guv'mint work:"

dictionary.com

You must remember that this amorality quotient that's being discussed is the result of a rather finite testing that presents only black and white choices before it comes to it's conclusions and it's within this context that I speak.

Hence, You can be moral in your recognition that various situations vary greatly as to what is and is not moral and say that it's shades of grey rather than black and white and yet this test or any finite test of black and whites would codify you as amoral.

You would have to list every possibile situation in order to put it in black and white and I don't have infinite time nor infinite patience to do so.

You used up a great deal of that patience with your long assed out of synch post.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:34 PM

Morality, in and of itself is good.

Amorality is without the good.

Good work. You made par again.

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 05:32 PM

as always you miss the subtle and crow like a cock at a lightbulb.

"common error: AMORAL, IMMORAL have related but distinct meanings:

amoral describes behaviour which is not based on any moral standards, and may therefore not be judged by such standards,

whereas immoral refers to action which offend against an accepted moral law or standard"

*

source: my heinemann australian dictionary

[NB: there's also a picture of bob next to the definition of amoral]

don't know for sure, but I think it may be a continuation of an argument a few days back about what we'd like to see changed about this blog.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 05:35 PM

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...or the tragic results of amateur mycological identification.

WE HOLD THIS TRUTH
THAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE CREATED DIFFERENT.
That every human being has the right to be mentally free and independent. That every human being has the right to feel, see, hear, sense, imagine, believe or experience anything at all, in any way, at any time. That every human being has the right to behave in any way that does not harm others or break fair and just laws. That no human being shall be subjected without consent to incarceration, restraint, punishment or psychological or medical intervention in an attempt to control, repress or alter the individual's thoughts, feelings or experiences.
- UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF MENTAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS

Fair and Just laws are a matter of perception.

//and crow like a cock at a lightbulb.//

that would be funny to see

(imho)

(tee-hee).

ok, ok

i'm going, i'm going

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 05:37 PM

I supose you mean slightly more tricky criminals?

Less brutish, more sutbly wicked?

So, fuckin' what.

No one has the right to infringe on my person.

>>Defense Lawyers in Terror Cases Plan Challenges Over Spy Efforts

By ERIC LICHTBLAU and JAMES RISEN
Published: December 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 - Defense lawyers in some of the country's biggest terrorism cases say they plan to bring legal challenges to determine whether the National Security Agency used illegal wiretaps against several dozen Muslim men tied to Al Qaeda.

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Good Going, Bush. Thinking yourself King, you've managed to put into question possibly legitimate arrests by bypassing the legal system. Way to go, King Retard.

Fair and Just laws are a matter of perception.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:41 PM

No... more a matter of actual effect.

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 05:40 PM

What is wrong with being ammoral huh? Just cause I aint no sheep, you think you can criticize me. Iv had enough. I am a nice person dammit. I have morals and values. Just because you cant see doesnt mean there not there.

Hollywood celebrities are sending a subtle (or blunt) statement to America

The late Vincent Schiavelli lived in Italy. I'm uncertain if he resided in Italy during most of his life, but his refusal to live in the states is telling. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kevin Spacey, etc. live chiefly in Britain.

Posted by: Crank Bait at December 28, 2005 05:40 PM

hmmmm... I see

Psst.. guess what RUSTLE...no one can infringe on your person from here. They are words. You make the meanings, and you make the outcomes.

I for one am so sick of you acting like an abused child. Grow up. If you can't take the words here, you can't handle being a person in a world of other persons.

"The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys.

Power, like a desolating pestilence,

Pollutes what'er it touches; and obedience,

Bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth,

Makes slaves of men, and, of the human frame,

A mechanized automaton."

Percy Bysshe Shelley (from Queen Mab)

as always you miss the subtle and crow like a cock at a lightbulb.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:39 PM

_______________

Yes, Nobs.

As always, I've yet again missed the essential and aggrandized myself.

Nice work.

Where do I apply to your school for limitless self-awareness?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:43 PM

No. They're perceptions. What's fair and just for one, is not fair and just law for all.

Posted by: Larissa at December 28, 2005 05:40 PM

Totally.

That freedom means not having our choices unduly limited.

That's why the blog has a responsibility not to deny any blog function at their disposal to provide; so as to not unduly limit choice.

I would hope one of those functions is some sort of harrasment mediation.

This blog is full of nutballs. It should be called the nutball report. Sam and Janeane are both nutballs too. We all need put on tranqs. I know I do.

>>Morality, in and of itself is good.

I agree, but it still makes me nervous when anyone but myself defines "morality". On the other hand, I can't blame anyone else for being equally nervous about my definition. I doubt we'll ever settle that situation.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:43 PM

No. They're perceptions. What's fair and just for one, is not fair and just law for all.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:46 PM

What you describe there is an actual effect...that of being fair for one and not all

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:45 PM

Actually, words are used to hurt and abuse all the time.

I'm only asking for the ability to block harassers.

Where do I apply to your school for limitless self-awareness?

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 05:46 PM

The constant need to bring others low so that you might appear to stand higher does you no service.

I suppose you mean slightly more tricky criminals?

Less brutish, more subtly wicked?

So, fuckin' what.

No one has the right to infringe on my person.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 05:42 PM

______________

Rustle needs a hug.

>>I have morals and values. Just because you cant see doesnt mean there not there.
Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:44 PM

I don't doubt that, Bob.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:41 PM

Everything is a matter of perception.

What you describe there is an actual effect...that of being fair for one and not all

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:48 PM

When you can admit to being wrong once in your life I MIGHT read and respect what you post. Until then you are "guy who can't admit wrongness."

Posted by: Muskrat Love at December 28, 2005 05:48 PM

Everyone needs hugs.

Everything is a matter of perception.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 05:49 PM

Duh.

Ono is sexually harrassing me. I cant take it.

Everything is merely perception.

There is no reality, this is only a dream.

Therefore there are no real consequence to our actions and are thus absolved of responsibility for doing wrong.

Is this how that plays out?

The constant need to bring others low so that you might appear to stand higher does you no service.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:48 PM

Douchy.

Douchy.

Posted by: Hypocrit Patrol at December 28, 2005 05:52 PM

give me an example of what you claim?

Ono is sexually harrassing me. I cant take it.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:52 PM

I can!

Hey, is Blog Slut really a hot chick?

When you can admit to being wrong once in your life I MIGHT read and respect what you post. Until then you are "guy who can't admit wrongness."

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:50 PM

Should I admit to being wrong when I am not just to make you feel better?

Can you point to an instance where I was wrong that I should admit to?

Give me an example of you admitting to being wrong.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."

-- Mark Twain

The constant need to bring others low so that you might appear to stand higher does you no service.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:48 PM

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Nice, Nobs.

You mistake the fact that you are a boorish buffoon who provokes and never admits his mistakes w/an unsupported claim of my having an insatiable need to bring others low.

Such is not the case, and they are not the same.

You don't see it b/c you are the boorish buffoon and everything's all about you and you think you are being brought low.

Consider:

Had you simply good-naturedly took the Inigo Montoya joke as a gentle correction designed to steer Bob in the right (not the wrong, i.e. your definition) direction, you wouldn't have felt the need to huffily support your sloppy initial offering.

But then you wouldn't be Nobody, would you?

Peoples need to quit being bungholes

Should I admit to being wrong when I am not just to make you feel better?

Can you point to an instance where I was wrong that I should admit to?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:54 PM

No. Of course not. You should have the balls to admit you're wrong, when you are wrong.

Give me an example of you admitting to being wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:54 PM

You made the charge so the onus is upon you and not me.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Posted by: Benjo at December 28, 2005 05:54 PM

I would say the latter

Hey, is Blog Slut really a hot chick?

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:53 PM

YES.

No. Of course not. You should have the balls to admit you're wrong, when you are wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:55 PM

Again show me an instance when I was wrong that I should be admitting to?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:55 PM

You're an idiot.

Smoke that.

I'm done with your ass for now.

what do you fear you'll lose if you ever admit to being wrong, Nobs?

Speaking of mycology. I remember last year the cops raided a huge patch up near the college and busted mad people. I have never eatn shrooms. Ate plenty of acid.

>>Posted by: Benjo at December 28, 2005 05:54 PM

I would have to say the former.

http://www.movieforum.com/people/actors/jacklemmon/images/grumpyoldmen.jpg "> dr and Nobody

"boorish buffoon"

"boorish buffoon"

"everything's all about you"

"Had you simply good-naturedly took the Inigo Montoya joke as a gentle correction designed to steer Bob in the right (not the wrong, i.e. your definition) direction, you wouldn't have felt the need to huffily support your sloppy initial offering."

nothing but insults...and what does it amount to?

"an insatiable need to bring others low."

end note...the addition of "insatiable" to the phrase was a nice bit of sophistry.

TEDDY'S HOME!!!!!

TEDDY'S HOME!!!!!

TEDDY'S HOME!!!!!

TEDDY'S HOME!!!!!

Ahhh...all the eggs back in their nest....just the way I love it...

:)

>>Posted by: Sheesh! U 2 old farts! at December 28, 2005 06:00 PM

hehehehe...

(like the fish.)

what do you fear you'll lose if you ever admit to being wrong, Nobs?

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:59 PM

I've been wrong on a number of occasions...Would you care to point one out or are you entirely ficated upon the mote in my eye?

Can you point to an instance where I was wrong that I should admit to?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 05:54 PM

____________

I can.

(This will astonish you, of course, being Mr. Self-Awareness 'n all, Nobs, but there're lots and lots and lots of 'em.)

Here's one famous (infamous) one:

You said you never make predictions.

It only took six hours or so of posting your most infamous predictions and you breaking down and about crying before you admitted that you do, of course, make predictions (constantly).

(OK, now let the self-serving explanations and unconvincing rationalizations begin.)

And yet, there you sit, asking people to "prove it" when "it's" been "proven" over and over and over again.

Shameless or delusional, take yer pick, but that's what makes you Nobody, Nobody.

Good work. You eagled that hole.

Dar?

You're an idiot.

Smoke that.

I'm done with your ass for now.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 05:57 PM

Do you have an argument or are you only flatulent?

>>TEDDY'S HOME!!!!!

who is this...?

Good work. You eagled that hole.

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 06:03 PM

Still obsessed with something that happened a year ago?

You'd think that you'd have been able to dredge up something much better by now.

Did I fall into a semantic trap...Sure...Did I mistake the intended meaning of anothers words...absolutely...

Are you an obsessive hateful asshole...in spades.

You still mad at me A.?

I'm not mad at you, Bob.

Like I said, if that's how you feel I'm an open ear.

If you are pretending, that is why I would say Fuck Off...because then it would seem like I've let you expend my emotions...the ones that come along with hearing someone say they want to die.

who is this...?

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 06:05 PM

One of the cats who lives here, that I take care of.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:08 PM

No, unfortunately, I was serious. I have swings, I feel better now though. It sometimes just feels like I have no where to turn to. I have all the emotional support in the world. But I need medical attention.

Blah, blah, blah.

If someone blocks your IP and you change it in order to continue harassing that blogger, you should go to jail.

Blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 05:00 PM

Thank you, Bill. I needed a laugh.

Bush was denied wiretaps, bypassed them

U.S. President George Bush decided to skip seeking warrants for international wiretaps because the court was challenging him at an unprecedented rate.

Ha. This blog generally revolves around Nobody's arguments.

He himself has admitted that he is confrontational. He likes confrontation.

I hate disputation. I guess that I am fairly dull, but I am happy. I think that most people should abjure from such arguments for several months. I think that people who like arguments were raised in a confrontational household. They don't realize that a simplified life is happier.

...but whatever.. his/your lives

Still obsessed with something that happened a year ago?

You'd think that you'd have been able to dredge up something much better by now.

Did I fall into a semantic trap...[No, I have no self-awareness and delusionally thought I never make predictions; wow, was *I* wrong]...Did I mistake the intended meaning of another's words...[No, it was plain English and unmistakable] ...

Are you an obsessive hateful asshole...in spades.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:06 PM

___________________

OK, Karl.

Pointing out that you are situationally full of shit (when you yourself asked for an example) makes one an obsessive. Got it.

Your rationalizations and situational amorality and preemptive projection are all particularly useful, I see.

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 28, 2005 06:11 PM

So Right. Argument only takes away, unless it is honest debate.

This comment board is like really fast! I went into the previous threads to see what it's like and when i get back here theres lots of comments after mine. Bush makes me wonder about my future.
It seems so pointless sometimes to learn one thing in school and then to learn the exact opposite is how it actually is.

...but whatever.. his/your lives

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 28, 2005 06:11 PM

Some things need confronted. Some things are confronted as a matter of preparation for confrontations yet to come.

Remember all the hurdles you confronted as you were growing up...all the things to learn and know?

You confront gravity every moment of your life.

You either grow bitter from the constant confrontation that life presents or you learn to enjoy it.

Thank you, Bill. I needed a laugh.

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at December 28, 2005 06:10 PM

I'm sorry for you.

Get psychiatric counciling.

Perhaps you don't understand that what amuses you is basically stalking.

I wish I had a dog. I need to get a dog. I love dogs.

p.s.

The "ignore function" does exist.

LINK

Note center mounted scroll wheel.

Remember all the hurdles you confronted as you were growing up...all the things to learn and know?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:14 PM

Yeah, and as John Lennon sang

"Don't be hard on yourself

Have yourself a break

Life wasn't meant to be run

The race is over

You've won"

I don't know. If you like to argue, argue.

Good dogs are pretty expensive, eh?

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:10 PM

I think you think you need medical attention. Which I have to respect also.

A good mid-size dog w/ relatively short hair. I dont like the idea of piss and poop in the house though. Wonder how long twould take to train.

OK, Karl.

Pointing out that you are situationally full of shit (when you yourself asked for an example) makes one an obsessive. Got it.

Your rationalizations and situational amorality and preemptive projection are all particularly useful, I see.

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 06:12 PM

I never made any aspersions or reference regarding preemptive projective though I am now reminded of it.

Again since when are your perceptions the rule of law when it comes to what constitutes anothers heart?

Fact...The incedent in question happened about a year ago.

Fact...you bring it up at nearly every opportunity.

Fact...without due cause you have attacked me repeatedly for years now.

Is there any other way to see it?

Good dogs are mutts. Mutts you can get from shelters or ones you find stray on the streets

Good dogs are pretty expensive, eh?

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:16 PM

____________

No way.

Go to the Humane Society/Animal Shelter.

Pick a friendly one, and they's the best dogs in the world.

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 28, 2005 06:11 PM

I agree with you. I was raised with confrontational household. Good thing I learned a better way to be, imo.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:18 PM

I wish I could think that. But, since July, and things aint gettin no better. But I also resent sobriety. I refuse to turn myself into hamburger.

>> It seems so pointless sometimes to learn one thing in school and then to learn the exact opposite is how it actually is.

Posted by: Benjo at December 28, 2005 06:12 PM

The hard part is that now you know that Bush is a pathalogical liar, you have to go out there and let people know this. You're awake, but there are so many out there that are absolutely sleepwalking through their lives. Most of the time, I don't care, but their ambivalence now has dangerous consequences: consider all that Bush could get away with if we're not vigilant against him.

//This blog is full of nutballs.//

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:46 PM

yo,

time out buddy

i'm a wanker

WANKER & NUTBALL "have related but distinct meanings"

then bob goes on to say //It should be called the nutball report.//

i prefer ~CRAZY TALK WITH CRAZY PEOPLE~

btw, if u see rustle... "don't mention the war"

*

"amoral" is an academic word, used by wankers & nub-balls

everything is judged against some form of moral standard

(imho)

(if u don't like it, well, fuck u & ur dog)

ok, ok

i'm going, i'm going

I don't know. If you like to argue, argue.

Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 28, 2005 06:15 PM

I'm cool with it...although there are those that would see anger, hate, self pity, crying...any number of things in my words I assure you that they are not there.

It sounds to me very much like getting called a poopoo head by a small child when you tell them to wear clothes outside.

Patience is indeed it's own reward when it comes to personal growth.

I do what I believe must be done.

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at December 28, 2005 06:15 PM

That's too bad.

In that case, I'm certain that I will eventually be driven away from this place by the organized sadistic harassment which happens here to unsuspecting visitors.

I'm only here because this is supposed to be a public space and I think I should fight back against bullies and abusers. People should not be forced to avoid harassment here.

I hope that this criminality is discovered by a responsible authority and those responsible go to jail.

What the fuck is going on here today?? People wanting to die .. people obsessed about things from a year ago .. people being called sadists .. Rustle freaking out.

My God people ..!

"Most of the time, I don't care, but their ambivalence now has dangerous consequences"

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:22 PM

hiyas Wil...want a banana?...I'm out of fruitcake.

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:22 PM

I'm not freaking out, I'm standing up to abuse.

I'm asking that Majority report be responsible for the abuse they allow to take place here.

Mitch Hedbeurg Died of an OD

>> //This blog is full of nutballs.//

Now hold it right there, mister. I claimed Criminals and Subversives, not nutballs.

Politics doesn't ever get better or more fair.

It sucks now, it sucked then, and will always suck..

Show me a well-loved government.

You can pick up any book from any year about the government in the U.S. and it's always the same.

Lies from greedy power loving materialistic ignorant liars...did I mention that they lie, as a rule, not an exception.

Did you hear then that day Reid surprised them on CSPAN? They act... they act and they lie and they only care about things that they believe matter, power and money and things. That fact alone makes me disrespect them Because I think that even if you met their basic needs with tax payer money. They would not do this job for free or for the good of the people they supossedly represent.

The U.S. government does not represent me.

To me, they're pods who may or may not have ever been actual people at one point.

Yeah, I dont wanna die, but I feel as if that is the only option. I cannot find treatment. And I will be damned if I go into another nutward. Fuckers want me dead. But why. Conformity is not an option round my way.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

Organized harassment isn't nutty, it's criminal.

"Outcasts and loners."
I'm that one! I'm that one!
Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 23, 2005 05:52 PM

>> Criminals and subversives.
I claim this one.
Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 23, 2005 05:58 PM

"A bunch of fags and dope heads."
^ this one has air-ono written on it
3 down, 5 to go
Posted by: Michael the self-actualized A-C at December 23, 2005 06:00 PM

oh, can we assign some to others? Because I think Bullshitters and liars is a good match for Dog.
Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 23, 2005 06:02 PM

So are we bullying the Republicans and conservatives on this blog?

Do you feel that people who "her-ass" the Prez on this public forum should be subject to criminal prosecution?

Bob, a lot of terrier breeds don't shed at all. Terrier mutts are probably the best dogs in the world. But I'm biased.

Fact...The incedent in question happened about a year ago.

Fact...you bring it up at nearly every opportunity.

Fact...without due cause you have attacked me repeatedly for years now.

Is there any other way to see it?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:18 PM

________________

Jesus, you are a self-pitying baby, Nobs.

Fact ... I coulda picked from *any number* of incidents that you either stupidly ignore or delusionally forget.

the Gephardt prediction?

30% of the population are sociopaths?

Advising Fishgrease to run w/the Bush National Guard documents?

(that one was most choice, Nobs; not only were you monumentally wrong about your political judgment, you were a monumental dick to Fishgrease in doing so -- b/c it's all about you, remember?)

Ilo and my "stalking" and "harassment" of you and your threatening both of us to be prosecuted "to the fullest extent of the law" up to and including jail time?

Your battle royales w/nearly everyone here (especially the ladies) at one time or another (Dar, akaMat, Ilo, etc.).

Look, Nobs, I could go on and on and on.

The point isn't that I picked that one incident that you arrogantly and dickheadedly claimed you never make predictions and then *demanded* that it be proven, which, when I did, you bawled like a baby.

The point is that you have no conception of the figure you strike, so you blame everyone else for your own failings.

Is there any other way to see it?

Banana's .. fitting food for the day it seems!

Yeah, I dont wanna die, but I feel as if that is the only option. I cannot find treatment. And I will be damned if I go into another nutward. Fuckers want me dead. But why. Conformity is not an option round my way.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

Have you ever considered the possibilty that you might be sane?

eya A.

gooder on Teddy!

eya B3, go help at the local shelter.

you can do some good for them and you as well

without getting dragged down by the responsibility of ownership.

having doggers is like having children, they put a lot of demands on you.

volunteering is special and well appreciated.

>>"Most of the time, I don't care, but their ambivalence now has dangerous consequences"
Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:22 PM

nice catch~

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

Thank You

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:22 PM

----------

The planets must be all wonky... I have drama up to my ears.

Posted by: Waiting for Cicero at December 28, 2005 06:26 PM

I think visitors to this blog should not be forced to avoid harassing posts.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:21 PM

k

you know... lately I have struggled with the Lincoln quotation (paraphrasing)

"to be silent when men should protest makes cowards of them."

Well, I have learned that protest is generally worthless. To a lesser extent, protests are disputes.

One cannot change people's minds, so even such "lesser" arguments are worthless.

I'm not impuning you, of course. I'm not innocent of engaging in worthless activities. I state facts on this blog that I myself interpreted as "whining" several years ago. :)

I'm out.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

Yeah it probably would feel better to think you have other options. I hope that happens for you if that's what you want.

Show me a well-loved government.

=================================================
Try the governments of Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela in recent months and before the CIA gets in on the act to create turmoil, unrest, and internal strife.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at December 28, 2005 06:27 PM

Like the homeless shelter? Good point, I used to work for Northwood. Took care of severely mentally and physically handicapped individuals. Bathed, toileted and fed them. The whole nine yards. My buddy got me the job. Thought it would be tough. But I loved it. And realized that there is a whole league of amazing amazing people out there. Real goodness like you couldnt imagine.

>>In that case, I'm certain that I will eventually be driven away from this place by the organized sadistic harassment which happens here to unsuspecting visitors.

am I opening up a can of worms by wondering what you are talking about? Organized sadistic harrassment? what...?

Try the governments of Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela in recent months and before the CIA gets in on the act to create turmoil, unrest, and internal strife.

Posted by: - - -L u M at December 28, 2005 06:30 PM

You're right. But I only know that from reading, not from direct experience. So it's hard to imagine it's real. I sure hope it is and that a weight is lifted in those parts for the people.

eya Meg,

u got one cool pupper there! )

This blog needs an ombudsman.

eya SJ:

Ciamar a tha sibh a nochd?
How are you today.?

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 06:31 PM

No, I'm not interested in discussing it.

I have elaborated on it repeatedly and my comments are available to be read.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

good for Teddy! Those damn cats sure can make life worrisome, but we love 'em.

I think you are way too cynical about politicians. There are two or three honest ones in the lot. Not all of them are liars. :)

The blog needs some fucking Valium!

Mitch Hedbeurg Died of an OD

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:25 PM

Hi Wil... I miss Mitch...

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:34 PM

This U.S. Government may have some good eggs in it...but it's wholly unneeded in my opinion. And not at all worth fighting for, let alone discussing.

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 06:33 PM

I think the problem is much more serious.

I think the people who maintain this blog need to understand this problem is serious and they should take their responsibility to create a safe place for visitors just as seriously.

'Jesus, you are a self-pitying baby, Nobs."

I called that one didnt I?

"the Gephardt prediction?"

Got War Dog going good with that one...hell it even made the paper...after a few dozen well placed emails...

"30% of the population are sociopaths?"

30% of the male population according to many experts...You might've noticed that because of my poor typing I tend to short hand things.

You repsonse to counter it was from a paper in 1965 if I remember correctly whereas mine where from more recent studies...

"Advising Fishgrease to run w/the Bush National Guard documents?"

You mischaracterize but Bush was in fact AWOL.

"(that one was most choice, Nobs; not only were you monumentally wrong about your political judgment, you were a monumental dick to Fishgrease in doing so -- b/c it's all about you, remember?)"

Yes I know I'm to be held resonsible for every choice another makes after hearing my opinion...

"Ilo and my "stalking" and "harassment" of you and your threatening both of us to be prosecuted "to the fullest extent of the law" up to and including jail time?"

I reported it. The fact that you're here able to continue with it shows only that you were not connected to the mail I was receiving.

"Your battle royales w/nearly everyone here (especially the ladies) at one time or another (Dar, akaMat, Ilo, etc.)."

Last I heard from Dar we were to meet at Jimmys place for a friendly get together. Ilo was fake. Mat...We get along half the time. I'm not going to be held responsible for others lack of self control.

"The point is that you have no conception of the figure you strike, so you blame everyone else for your own failings."

Does the responsibility only go one way? Am I the only one held to this standard of conduct?

we are not men

we are the lollipop kids

I was workin midnight one night not by choice. Back when I was in CHem 1. And I fell asleep on the couch at work. The lady I was workin . Anyways, it made it to the boss. Needless to say, When the boss said, you dont care about these people. It was over. My co workers said they could hear me yelling at her all the way in the parking lot.

Same-Sex Marriage Foes Falter in '06 Ballot Efforts

... I love it when hate gets Bo-Fo'd .. don't you!! Let's hope the evil bastards suffer many more set backs in the coming years... decades... MILLENIA!!

Banana's .. fitting food for the day it seems!

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:27 PM

The blog needs some fucking Valium!

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:34 PM

Bananas laced with valium...you're a genius!

The blog needs some fucking Valium!

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:34 PM

Valium sucks. I need about 8-10 mg of alprazolam. I really do. I am not lying.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:35 PM

That was a serious loss.

A sad loss.

One more among many this year.

Everyone except you handles that standard.

>>The blog needs some fucking Valium!
Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:34 PM

sheeesh...no shit.

Everyone except you handles that standard.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 06:39 PM

Can you show me evidence that what you say is true in any shape or form?

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 06:39 PM

If you mean me, I don't know what you're saying.

who the hell is being forced to do anything on this blog? I'm in total freedom to be an ass or a wiseacre, which is prevalent on this blog. No one is being hassled without the permission of the hasslee.

I used to eat two or three 60 mg morphines, maybe 3 or 4 mg of prazolam and go do microbiology. And get A's and B's

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 06:39 PM

I'm not a fan of anyone who can evoke laughter deciding to leave here. Assholes I can live with out, not comedians....As for asshole comedians...I'll take it on a case by case basis.... :)

who the hell is being forced to do anything on this blog? I'm in total freedom to be an ass or a wiseacre, which is prevalent on this blog. No one is being hassled without the permission of the hasslee.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:40 PM

fear my mind powers!

@.@

you are getting sleepy...very sleepy.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:40 PM

The abuser always tries to blame their victim.

They always claim the victim "was asking for it."

That is a lie.

the abuser is always to blame for their abuse.

No one is being hassled without the permission of the hasslee.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:40 PM

You said it, Chum... :)

>>maybe 3 or 4 mg of prazolam and go do microbiology. And get A's and B's

damn....will you help me with Astronomy this winter quarter?

"As for asshole comedians...I'll take it on a case by case basis.... :)"

Why...why that's just amoral!

The jury's out on global warming ... my freakin' eye! The usually ice road from from Yellowknife to Fort Chipewan in northern Canada (is made of frozen muskeg) and has not formed this winter.

Traffic is banned from travel so far this winter.

If muskeg continues to melt the escaping methane will add to the depletion of the ozone layer.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:42 PM

The abuser always tries to blame their victim.

They always claim the victim "was asking for it."

That is a lie.

The abuser is always to blame for their abuse.

eya --LuM!

having a good day

dinking with a few chores

goofing off here a little bit.

doing some writing and a lil wandering.

Here Everyone.. take some deep-fried banana .. pay no mind to the sprinkles of blue upon them! ; )

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:37 PM

_____________

The entirety of this post, of what you've written, Nobs, is either grossly and self-servingly inaccurate, just plain wrong or phantasmagorically delusional.

I have no interest in deconstructing it. It is what it is, and you are what you are.

You really are a marvel, Nobs.

Good night.

be back later....

W/O chemical alteration. The world has a dark shadow.... I firmly believe this. Hell, they attribute mind alterating substances as playing a crucial role in human brain evolution via opening channels of contemplation, reasoning etc.

Why...why that's just amoral!

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:42 PM

I don't know what that word means, never use it, not a fan.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:42 PM

Amoral is changing your IP or NIC so that you can continue to harass your victim.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at December 28, 2005 06:42 PM

Yes I will maam

Good night.

Posted by: dr at December 28, 2005 06:43 PM

Saying it is so doesn't make it so.

And you know better what's in my mind than I do?

Talk about presumptuous arrogance!

Good riddance.

I'll take it on a case by case basis.... :)

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:41 PM

yes .. I distinctly remember someone posting shit and then saying it was 'comedy' and all in fun .. Hum .. who was it again who was going that?? Name is on the tip of my tongue....

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:36 PM

The US govt. is supposed to be "we the people", but we forgot. And besides, people suck.

Cats rule

I'm telling ya listen to this Berry White song and you won't need Valium.

http://www.terrificmusic.com/files/music/I/im_gonna_love_you_just_a_little_more_baby.ram

I don't know what that word means, never use it, not a fan.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:44 PM

A couple of definitions were posted upblog...Do you read this blog or only post here?

Our non altered mind is very prone to the less developed tendencies of fear etc. etc. True intellectual and objective thought as is beneficial in the science field is true, and presents freedom. There is nothing wrong with this, just another step in evolution, until the biology catches up.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 06:42 PM

I'm not speaking of physical abuse, although there is a case to be made in the spiritual world that we even choose the physical suffering we endure. And we might choose suffering to prevent further suffering. I don't know tho. All I know is that no one is going to be responsible for my thoughts, feelings, or action and non action except me...I don't give that away. When I feel something, I look to myself for the answer or solution. Doesn't mean I don't lean on certain things at times to sooth myself, I'm just aware that that is what I'm doing to myself. Then at another time I will still need to look inside and see what belief I have went along with the experience I have.

Cats rule

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:45 PM

if cats ruled we would all be either small flightless birds or mice...

Neither is much to my liking.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:47 PM

Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both. If I care to know what it means I'll look it up.

http://www.terrificmusic.com/files/music/I/im_gonna_love_you_just_a_little_more_baby.ram

Posted by: Kevin at December 28, 2005 06:46 PM

HI! :)

Our non altered mind is very prone to the less developed tendencies of fear etc. etc. True intellectual and objective thought as is beneficial in the science field is true, and presents freedom. There is nothing wrong with this, just another step in evolution, until the biology catches up.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:48 PM

Hey, thats a pretty AMORAL statement. Alright.

yes .. I distinctly remember someone posting shit and then saying it was 'comedy' and all in fun .. Hum .. who was it again who was going that?? Name is on the tip of my tongue....

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 06:45 PM

Me? Did I do that?

Good dogs are mutts. Mutts you can get from shelters or ones you find stray on the streets

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 06:18 PM

---------------------------------------------

Dumpster diva's and Kentucky Fried cur.

Bye Miss Cathy.

When can we see your paper?

Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both. If I care to know what it means I'll look it up.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:49 PM

in my definition is either a belief system not based in whole upon an agreed upon moral law or a lack of judgement on moral issues at all.

MAKE

FUCK

*

NOT

KILL

I NEED A BANANA AND ALL I GET IS FRUITCAKE.

Do you agree with my previous statement there Nobody? Curious to see your outlook on the topic.

Hey, thats a pretty AMORAL statement. Alright.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 06:51 PM

sarcasm doesn't suit you bob...I've heard similiar said before but I question any scientist that so intereferes with the experiment that he becomes it's subject

Posted by: Kevin at December 28, 2005 06:46 PM

u sleaze-ball

it's barry red

*

anyhoes

i bought my 1st brand new white-good

(woo-hoo)

*

& tell teddy

he owes me money

if he don't cough-up the doe, u won't be seeing teddy again

love,

ono

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:49 PM

by definition, your cats are amoral.

The house is 70 degrees and the fire as been out since 2am!

What a goddess!

Amazing!

: ]

wood stoves are the best!

anyhoes,

any wankers......... oh, there's one......... hi, nobody

i bought a washing machine

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 06:55 PM

Teddy said kiss his caretakers ass... please... :)

(hee)

Too continue though Bob...I'm a fan of both nootropics and possible neural interfaces...If you've an imbalance in particular receptors I'd look more for the underlaying purpose rather than divert that purpose.

Exploration of self is one thing but the exploration of self by changing what is self leaves me wondering if you're trying to avoid a real answer by constantly shifting the variables in the guise of black boxing the problem.

by definition, your cats are amoral.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:57 PM

Ok, if you say so. I just don't have a use for that word yet...seriously, I'll look it up when it matters to me.

☼☼ wednesday ~ rhythmic moon 0.2.7.7 ☼☼

blue crystal storm ~ kin 259

DEDICATE in order to CATALYZE,

UNIVERSALIZING ENERGY

seal the MATRIX of SELF-GENERATION

with the CRYSTAL tone of COOPERATION.

guided by the power of MAGIC.

Posted by: akaMAT at December 28, 2005 06:59 PM

stop cutting down my home

~signed,

the secret squirrel

(from down the road)

if cats ruled we would all be either small flightless birds or mice...

Neither is much to my liking.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 06:49 PM

You forget the allure of FISH!!!! : )

No A .. not talking about you at all. Check your email ...

u sleaze-ball

it's barry red

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 06:55 PM

Whatever....

I'm in a good mood whoever it is.

This isn't "THE BEST OF... THE 2005 NEWS", is it?

i bought a washing machine

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 06:59 PM

phaw...next thing you know you'll be bathing regulary and wearing matched socks...ya pansy

Posted by: akaMAT at December 28, 2005 06:59 PM

It took us some years to figure out that the coals at the bottom with the doors closed makes a long lasting heater...we used it like a fireplace before we learned....now when we clean it out, we leave two inches of ash at the bottom, or it takes extra time to make the coal base again....

Glad you're nice and toasty...and Mulder must be purring again now that he's out of the arctic wilderness eh... :)

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:48 PM

Well, in this case, I mean unwanted organized harassment targeted at individuals. Not existential angst, but a targeted victimization of visitors to this blog by an organized group of sadists.

If the individual does not want to be harassed, they are forced off this blog.

If they stay and fight, the sadists claim the victim is to blame for their abuse.

People should resist abuse; it is not nutty or masochistic, it is demanding of fairness.

In fact, the sadists have no right to target and abuse anyone. They have no right to demand their abuse be ignored or avoided. They have to right to claim a characterization of the victim's behavior.

It is plain predatory stalking and harassment, as simple, sad and sick as that. It is organized and abusive.

If Majority Report is allowing it, or is for some reason turning a blind eye to it, then they should be held legaly liable, IMHO.

If I am right, an investigation into the server-logs for this blog should answer many questions I have about why this abuse is allowed to go on here.

: ]

Secret Squirrel!

Heehee,

I know that is a bad part of it. There are slugs big enough to be pets coming out from the logs I have drying. I make sure to put them outside if I see them, plus now that I know they are there I look for them.

Hows the bird?

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 06:59 PM

game on, dude

"operator!, get me a ticket to california.... ariba!" (spanish 4 step on it!)

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 07:01 PM

my mistake...fish...sigh...I ain't gonna be sushi either!

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:00 PM

self doesnt change. What changes is the outlook shaping emotions. New and improved you. W/o the horrible animal input. Thus, you are destined to achieve more intellectually.

Totally jealous, Miss Anne .. keeping my house at 62 - 66 degrees these days and it is still costing $10 a day to heat!

and Mulder must be purring again now that he's out of the arctic wilderness eh... :)

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 07:02 PM

Mulder plants himself right out in front of the goddess.

When you touch him it's like he has been laying under his tanning light. Heehee, good to see him happy and content.

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 07:01 PM

Ohh..I think about that too. Maybe the trees are ok about being transformed if they don't feel taken advatage of? I don't know. And I'd imagine that they enjoy being thanked and appreciated...and possibly hugged...like Rustle said... :)

The Matter (Of Our Discussion)

(Boom Bip feat. Nina Nastasia)

I know it makes you feel sad

Then you look at me that way

Your hands hold on the railing

As we glide across the bay.

With everything uncertain

It's easy to defend

But we do not talk of feelings

And you know i can't pretend.

I don't believe in the power of love

I don't believe in the wisdom of stone

I don't believe in a god or a mind

And I'm not alone ...

I listen to your breathing

It's steady and it's slow.

We lie close to the ceiling

I think of children in our home.

But the quiet in the quarters

Stirs me from the thought

I might leave tomorrow

To feel the joy of a new start.

I don't believe the in power of love

I don't believe in the wisdom of stone

I don't believe in a god or a mind

In the morning many sea birds

On the icy wind arrive

Never crowding their companions

Against the blinding sky they dive.

I think about you sleeping

How miss you'll miss the morning tide

But my stomach is uneasy

And I choose to stay outside.

I don't believe in the power of love

I don't believe in the wisdom of stone

I don't believe in a god or a mind

I'm not alone ...

//Hows the bird?//

i took him to the vet & they're taking care of him

if he can't fly, they'll give him to someone who has a license for natvie birds

CORRECTION:

In fact, the sadists have no right to target and abuse anyone. They have no right to demand their abuse be ignored or avoided. They have No right to claim a characterization of the victim's behavior.

self doesnt change. What changes is the outlook shaping emotions. New and improved you. W/o the horrible animal input. Thus, you are destined to achieve more intellectually.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:03 PM

outlook shaping emotions is not part of self?

And while you're paring away at "horrible animal input" have you considered what part if any of your humanity would remain after the exercise?

You do understand that to be without emotion is to be a sociopath right?

They're always happy and rarely ever sad. What a life eh? That is unless you give a damn about anyone outside of self.

Totally jealous, Miss Anne .. keeping my house at 62 - 66 degrees these days and it is still costing $10 a day to heat!

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 07:04 PM

Willow you have mail.

I gave you all the information I could think of that helpped me to find the right stove.

Best to SHOP AROUND, don't decide to quick and TALK to other people and see how they feel about the stoves. Most people who have them use them so that is a good sign.

It is a warm raidating heat and DRY so you need to keep a water pot of some kind on top.

Any info I can help with just let me know.

I have peeps who have used stoves for many years living down the street from me and have all brought me fire wood as a gift to the goddess.

: ]

That ono has a bird story wasn't bullshit?

God...sorry ono...

Ok, if you say so. I just don't have a use for that word yet...seriously, I'll look it up when it matters to me.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 07:00 PM

Ok, but you're missing the wonderful punchline.

( no laughter coming from Ms. A today )

if he can't fly, they'll give him to someone who has a license for natvie birds

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 07:06 PM

Coolieo! A-O!

//...like Rustle//

leave rustle alone

we don't want any trouble

gtg,

there's a strange man here with a broken rib

Previous abusers ... hum ... think... think ...

OH YES!!!! Tony Clifton!!! And there was Andy ... and who else .. ??? It'll come with time I am sure.

gtg,

there's a strange man here with a broken rib

Posted by: air-ono at December 28, 2005 07:11 PM

He'll be healing lepers and walking on water in his later posts.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:07 PM

I disagree. Higher thought and reasoning is the essence of humanity. Tis our brains that differ us from other species. Consider it more swapping one set of primitive emotions for those more suited for production and the current circumstances. And to be able to input anything intellectually is true contribution. And to be able to input heightened outlook is true contribution. Some people believe that self control etc. is the key. You know, control your emotions, shape them. I think it is biological. Now this is clearly not for everyone, but mainly applies to those who have abused drugs as youngsters. I have noticed that the majority, will never be right without chemical alteration.

Where are Sam and Jeanenne?? Anyone know?

"inadvertently" my hairy ass...You don't accidentally create and then install tracking cookies.

NSA inadvertently uses banned data-tracking ``cookies'' at Web site


NEW YORK (AP) - The National Security Agency's Internet site has been placing files on visitors' computers that can track their Web surfing activity despite strict federal rules banning most of them.

These files, known as ``cookies,'' disappeared after a privacy activist complained and The Associated Press made inquiries this week, and agency officials acknowledged Wednesday they had made a mistake.

Nonetheless, the issue raises questions about privacy at a spy agency already on the defensive amid reports of a secretive eavesdropping program in the United States.

``Considering the surveillance power the NSA has, cookies are not exactly a major concern,'' said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a privacy advocacy group in Washington, D.C. ``But it does show a general lack of understanding about privacy rules when they are not even following the government's very basic rules for Web privacy.''

Until Tuesday, the NSA site created two cookie files that do not expire until 2035 -- likely beyond the life of any computer in use today.

"How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?" Winston thought. "By making him suffer," he said. "Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own?"

-George Orwell, "1984", 1948.

Ya gotta love this ... In Russia, POllution is good for Business

Why they are gettin' to be just like us .. huh! Like a little brother .. pickin' up all our worst habits!

The Matter (Of Our Discussion)mp3

How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?" Winston thought. "By making him suffer," he said. "Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own?"

-George Orwell, "1984", 1948.

In this sense, what I have been speaking of also denotes increased liberty as sound reasoning , not desperation, is essential for control.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 07:16 PM

Very grey reading, isn't it A?

I read that book, So much like some aspects of our lives. : [

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."

G.B. Shaw, "Maxims: Liberty and Equality," Man and Superman, 1903

I have noticed that the majority, will never be right without chemical alteration.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:14 PM

psychology is discovering that many so-called mental problems are actually physical/ chemistry problems in the body. But popping pills isn't good if the diagnosis isn't.

I disagree. Higher thought and reasoning is the essence of humanity. Tis our brains that differ us from other species. Consider it more swapping one set of primitive emotions for those more suited for production and the current circumstances. And to be able to input anything intellectually is true contribution. And to be able to input heightened outlook is true contribution. Some people believe that self control etc. is the key. You know, control your emotions, shape them. I think it is biological. Now this is clearly not for everyone, but mainly applies to those who have abused drugs as youngsters. I have noticed that the majority, will never be right without chemical alteration.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:14 PM

You throw out all the evidence that the "lower" aimals also reason. You also disparage emotion as primitive. Fear is perhaps our most primitive of emotions and yet it has a vital role to play in our survival.

Your perfect human would be no more than a machine. Sociopathic for all it's logic, all it's reason there would be no illogical emotion.

Very good mr spock but you're wrong.

"have noticed that the majority, will never be right without chemical alteration."

Have you noticed that nature abhors a vacuum and that every niche must be filled?

For the majority to be all of one type would be a death sentence to the species.

As for what you and I would consider right there would be an obvious vast gulf between us.

The harmony of both the logical and emotional...the balance...The tossing out of none of the gifts we were born with and dealing with the seeming paradox that we are...In this way do we grow...

You would make of yourself Bonzai.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 07:20 P

Most of the brains processes are truly mysterious. I am no expert on the matter. But I am under the impression that no one is. So where does diagnosis fit into all this. I have heard doctors state that the seratonin hypothesis is akin to the mastubatory hypothesis of insanity.

In this sense, what I have been speaking of also denotes increased liberty as sound reasoning , not desperation, is essential for control.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:19 PM

To truly enslave a man you promise him ultimate freedom.

©_

Uh oh!!! Don't you be listenin' to that there MP3 too loud!!!

'Ear bud' headphones can cause hearing loss, experts warn

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:24 PM

my cousin, a neurosurgeon, said recently that diagnosis is 95% luck.

Your perfect human would be no more than a machine. Sociopathic for all it's logic, all it's reason there would be no illogical emotion.

Another factor: I am a humanist and I believe that if suffering can be remedied, it should. Of course this is subjective now. But aside from the intellectual and societal benefits comes the most important, the subject feels better.

Most of the brains processes are truly mysterious. I am no expert on the matter. But I am under the impression that no one is. So where does diagnosis fit into all this. I have heard doctors state that the seratonin hypothesis is akin to the mastubatory hypothesis of insanity.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:24 PM

actually there's been a number of recent breakthroughs in the neurosciences due to real time brain imaging...

Did you know that they've identified a "humor" module in the brain?

One that only does social reasoning...

Which is closely connected in a moral reasoning network with emotional generators such as guilt.

One that only does profit/loss calculations...

Very grey reading, isn't it A?

I read that book, So much like some aspects of our lives. : [

Posted by: akaMAT at December 28, 2005 07:19 PM

Yes. I love how that book personi--animalifies archetypes...

Hey! How are your girls Missy? Everything ok with them?

(Whoa! As soon as I typed that the kid called...bbiaw..)

Another factor: I am a humanist and I believe that if suffering can be remedied, it should. Of course this is subjective now. But aside from the intellectual and societal benefits comes the most important, the subject feels better.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:29 PM

Awww..do you know there is a condition where people are norn incapable of feeling pain?

They are consantly in danger of death because when they are cut they don't know it.

When they are burned they don't remove there hand from the fire.

It may seem nirvana in conception but in reality it's just another hell.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:29 PM

I find that hardly a deep enough understanding to make a thorough diagnosis. A general and useful statement, yes.

'Ear bud' headphones can cause hearing loss, experts warn

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 07:27 PM

----------

I totally believe that.

Hey there, I'm back. Watched The Empire Strikes Back with my mom. So has the blog cooled down any, or are we all being harassed still?

Sorry to tell you this but the bad feelings are an essential part of a healhy existance...They are there to tell you when something is wrong and needs changed.

my perfect human would have twice the emotion, psychic powers for bending things, and no sweat.

Which has nothing to do with harassment.

I find that hardly a deep enough understanding to make a thorough diagnosis. A general and useful statement, yes.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:32 PM

Aww but bob how deep must one go before the recognition comes that what you advocate in nothing more than a chemical lobotomy?

This is the main difference. The "drug" culture, dont fuckin stereotype, seek understanding of some type. The others, seek comfort. But again, I make no conclusion as this is my subjective reasoning. I also am fully aware that some people do not need alteration. In fact, it would be detremental to them.

Posted by: Wil at December 28, 2005 07:27 PM

If I go deaf listening to this, then at least the last thing I hear will be beautiful.

Not a big fan of those "earbud" 'phones anyway.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 07:33 PM

I will continue to fight back against cruelty and sadism.

I hope there is some legal action which can be taken.

(Whoa! As soon as I typed that the kid called...bbiaw..)

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 07:31 PM

Love it when that shit happens!

My little missies are ok, getting to spend time with each other for the holidays.

Hope yours is well and happy!

The kid just told us "The big bad wolf drank out of the potty"

Man, I love kids.

I have her trained. Whenever she hears "George Bush" she says "EW!"

People that have been lobotomized are always happy...They report that they feel GREAT!...Of course they feel this way even when going over a cliff or sitting inside a burning house...

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:36 PM

Dont forget, I am very amoral. But if that is what it takes for an individual to live a productive and happy life as opposed to being a suicidal nutjob (talking about me if you dont know) than that is what is humane and necessary.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I guess you could say that I am Very Very Liberal.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I'd love to read a story about a person who claimed to be happy as they went over a cliff, or sat in a burning house.

Saying it's so, doesn't make it so.

Especially, but not limited to a know-it-all asshole saying it.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I hope there is some legal action which can be taken.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 07:37 PM

Aww. Bill, do you need a hug?

I can speak of this Nobody because I am clearly a victim of some type of chemical imbalance. It runs in my family. So what I say is not just hypothetical, but derived from experience.

This is the main difference. The "drug" culture, dont fuckin stereotype, seek understanding of some type. The others, seek comfort. But again, I make no conclusion as this is my subjective reasoning. I also am fully aware that some people do not need alteration. In fact, it would be detremental to them.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:36 PM

Is not understanding just another form of comfort?

Now then Bob...where would you yourself draw the line about who needs alteration and who does not?

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 07:41 PM

In this case, it is so that I am protesting this blog.

They can ban, but they can't force me to aviod or ignore their abuse.

I want to meet the person controlling what Rustle reads.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I want to meet the person controlling what Rustle reads.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 07:45 PM

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

My brother has no problems however. Now he has never done drugs. Me, I did my fair share. Now how much is created vs. genetic. Dont know. But I do know that there is a cure. It is increased levels of GABA via alprazolam. Not a philosophical issue. But merely fact. I can function with, cannot without. Am happy with, not happy without. You can go anywhere you want with that. But the case is obvious.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

Amoral ? liberal

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I have her trained. Whenever she hears "George Bush" she says "EW!"

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 07:38 PM

HAHAHAHA

I can speak of this Nobody because I am clearly a victim of some type of chemical imbalance. It runs in my family. So what I say is not just hypothetical, but derived from experience.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:43 PM

I can also speak of it from the same framework...We all have families Bob and there are other solutions besides lobotomizing ones self.

Cognitive therapy...is one tool. Diet is another. Medication yet another but they all hinge on understanding the problem.

Nature breeds into us roles...abilities suitable for particular circumstances that modern society does not allow for...

And what would be beneficial in one situation comes to appear as a problem in another.

Liberal is not the same as amoral

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:44 PM

Awwe, now that is where it gets tricky. I was under the assumption that that is what psychologist were skilled in. But I think I was sadly mistaken. But in an ideal world, would be psychologists.

This posting is not spam, I'm protesting your abuse.

I hope to block your posts in the future.

The abuser may not define the actions of their targeted victim. That definition is a lie the abuser wants to believe, but it is false.

I am fighting back against organized abuse that may be allowed and even sanctioned by Majority Report.

It's not funny, it's abuse.

Abusers always try to blame their victims.

Abusers always try to claim their victim is "nuts."

You know you are purposely being antagonistic.

This should be a crime.

You should be banned for abuse.

I will stand up to any harasser.

Please understand this is no joke.

It is sick and possibly criminal.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

I'm starting to see multiple posting. Am I in need of drugs?

My brother has no problems however. Now he has never done drugs. Me, I did my fair share. Now how much is created vs. genetic. Dont know. But I do know that there is a cure. It is increased levels of GABA via alprazolam. Not a philosophical issue. But merely fact. I can function with, cannot without. Am happy with, not happy without. You can go anywhere you want with that. But the case is obvious.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:47 PM

From your description Bob...I've suggested L. Deprenyl...A near analog would be chocolate...It's antidepressant effects are well known to women the world around...

You don't fit according to that same description...In what way don't you fit and can you imagine a way or a situation in which you would fit?

Well Nobody, I have been alive for a while now. And throughout my whole life, nothing but has provided relief. Hence, I think it is biological.

Majority Report should not allow harassment on their blog.

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 07:46 PM

Isn't it ironic that in your protest you are now harassing the blog?

Awwe, now that is where it gets tricky. I was under the assumption that that is what psychologist were skilled in. But I think I was sadly mistaken. But in an ideal world, would be psychologists.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:49 PM

Naw Bob...They're as fallible as any...I did however ask your peronal opinion about who would and who would not qualify for alteration...Could you answer that please?

Well Nobody, I have been alive for a while now. And throughout my whole life, nothing but has provided relief. Hence, I think it is biological.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:52 PM

I ask again...is there a situation where what you see as a problem would in fact be of benefit?

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 whenever

Ok, serious question then bill.

What do you hope to accomplish by repeatedly posting the same thing?

I personally find that more "abusive" than most things that I've seen posted here.

Oh, well.

I forgive you.

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 07:53 PM

there must be some legal action we can take to stop this harasser.

Also Bob...did you know that what most people call depression is actually anxiety?

You can tell the difference because depressed people don't give a shit that they're depressed.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:52 PM

Chocolate is a little weak for me. Nor do I submit that all is needed is mere sober anti depressant effects. Have been on zoloft for like 5 months. Even though the anti depressant properties are real. that is not the problem. Or maybe it is and every herb/ssri have tried do not address the issue pertaining to me. If I just wanted to be happy, I could snort coke all day.

Chocolate is a little weak for me. Nor do I submit that all is needed is mere sober anti depressant effects. Have been on zoloft for like 5 months. Even though the anti depressant properties are real. that is not the problem. Or maybe it is and every herb/ssri have tried do not address the issue pertaining to me. If I just wanted to be happy, I could snort coke all day.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 07:58 PM

What are the effects of not being medicated that you find the most troubling?

You can tell the difference because depressed people don't give a shit that they're depressed.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 07:57 PM

that's for sure. Depression becomes a normal experience, and feeling otherwise is high anxiety.

Whoa! fire can...like totally space you out man!

I have had to go to the E room a couple times for panic attacks. Ive been diagnosed w/ OCD, General Anxiety Disorder, Social Phobia, Severe Depression. ANd yet, with the aid of xanax. I was able to be a bio/ed major easily maintaining above a 3.0 Gpa and teaching students and working and truly enjoying life. No other drug, legal or illegal has been able to help me as such. Now, it seems as if I may not be able to get my prescription back. Hence, the approaching conclusion that suicide is the only answer.

that's for sure. Depression becomes a normal experience, and feeling otherwise is high anxiety.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 08:00 PM

sorta...depression is typified by a lack of anxiety...

fear of depression now that's another thing.

Hence, the approaching conclusion that suicide is the only answer.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 08:02 PM

Beware

Talking to Nobody can do that to a person.

I have had to go to the E room a couple times for panic attacks. Ive been diagnosed w/ OCD, General Anxiety Disorder, Social Phobia, Severe Depression. ANd yet, with the aid of xanax. I was able to be a bio/ed major easily maintaining above a 3.0 Gpa and teaching students and working and truly enjoying life. No other drug, legal or illegal has been able to help me as such. Now, it seems as if I may not be able to get my prescription back. Hence, the approaching conclusion that suicide is the only answer.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 08:02 PM

But what effects of not being medicated do you find most disturbing?

Beware

Talking to Nobody can do that to a person.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 08:03 PM

Go watch fire burn.

Depressed is not a disease. If it's called a disease that's because there's profit to be made on ones who choose to remain depressed.

It's something to experience and move though and beyond.

The more a person resists a feeling that makes them feel "low", the more depressed they become.

There is a lot of crazy stuff going on that needs to be combated. We have a totalitarian government, we are in no way safe from disaster (whether it be natural or man made), the freaking government is spying on us, and we are killing thousands and thousands of innocent people. We should be think-tanking, planning, organizing. Instead, we argue about the blog itself.

Depressed is not a disease. If it's called a disease that's because there's profit to be made on ones who choose to remain depressed.

It's something to experience and move though and beyond.

The more a person resists a feeling that makes them feel "low", the more depressed they become.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 08:05 PM

worth repeating.

We should be think-tanking, planning, organizing. Instead, we argue about the blog itself.

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 08:05 PM

Right here where they can watch every words spoken eh?

there must be some legal action we can take to stop this harasser.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 07:56 PM

I think I'm choking on irony...

Go watch fire burn.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 08:05 PM

why?

Bob if you can identify the single most disturbing effect of not being medicated it could be very helpful in finding a more permanent solution to your problems...

In nature there are no pharmacies and yet we function as we were meant to.

Hence, the approaching conclusion that suicide is the only answer.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 08:02 PM

I really liked your idea of drawing your head and blowing it away. That would be a good thing to try when I feel suicidal.

I wouldn't ever kill myself tho because my mum would die from grief...I saw it, my dad died from grief when my brother carbon monoxcided himself...and what really sucked...was that he was in the physical position of getting out of the car and moving towards the side door as if he'd changed his mind at too late of the moment....

Now he probably has to start over with a new body maybe...to me suicide is like being sent to jail without passing Go....but that's me...and my perception...

Right here where they can watch every words spoken eh?

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 08:07 PM

--------

Fine. Lets devote the blog exclusively to arguing about what the blog shouls be like.

Screw that.

I gotta go.

I think I'm choking on irony...

Posted by: Prowse at December 28, 2005 08:08 PM

fight fire with fire. looks like it works for the moment.

why?

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2005 08:11 PM

it would be less harmful than tossing spiteful and negative comments around on the blog wouldn't it?

Some people who post here, are here to damage souls.

We should be think-tanking, planning, organizing. Instead, we argue about the blog itself.

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 08:05 PM

I use this. If you want to do activist stuff you might like it

Plenty of think-tanking, planning, organizing.

Love it when that shit happens!

My little missies are ok, getting to spend time with each other for the holidays.

Hope yours is well and happy!

Posted by: akaMAT at December 28, 2005 07:38 PM

Yeah I love that too! Did you see them both recently then? Or you mean they got to see eachother? Yeah my kid is well and happy...she made a great decision taking the CNA course and getting licensed...she's been able to pick and choose between three great jobs since she moved down the hill...I might do that course too if I could withstand what she's so great and handling...watching older people lose their physical and mental capacities without crying with grief day in and day out...It seems like only a certain type of angel could observe that nature in action without losing it to the point of not being able to handle the responsibility anymore....

Fine. Lets devote the blog exclusively to arguing about what the blog shouls be like.

Screw that.

I gotta go.

Posted by: Auntie Meg at December 28, 2005 08:12 PM

I don't disagree with the intent of your post it's jsut that any serious planning or brainstorming is just going to end up in the hands of th bad guys.

Discussing issues and perhaps changing minds is about the best we can hope for.

Not ever...NEVER.

Oh my god....you really believe that you can change a person's mind don't you?

Why do I feel as if I have heard this program before?
Is this a re-run?
Re-runs suck big time.
As if there were no commentators, authors, even bloggers who could really add to the show!

G'evenin', gang!

*

=-=-= Glorificus 72% amorality, 63% passion, 54% spirituality, 36% selflessness =-=-=

I have the highest amorality thus far. woo hoo. I still dont know what amorality means though.

Posted by: Bob26003 at December 28, 2005 05:07 PM

Feh...amateur! : )

L@L's is:

Faith

94% amorality, 63% passion, 30% spirituality, 45% selflessness

Faith is a powerhouse, and you might be, too. Passion-driven, down-to-earth, and willing to do what it takes to get things done and have a good time doing them, she is tough and sexy. Now, this test didn't rate your sexiness, but with these kinds of traits, that's probably true as well.

You rate as one of the most dynamic characters of the Buffy universe.

*

Got work comin' outta m'ass. I figure if I can keep this pace going thru Jan., I can blog while doing the occasional bench work straight thru till Spring Break. Heh.

I be jonesin' for some live MR shows w/ J & S. Thomm is a more-than-adequate sub but he ain't my Sammer. And the reruns, even these "best of's," ain't cuttin' it.

*nose back on grindstone*

Peace

Oh my god....you really believe that you can change a person's mind don't you?

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 08:21 PM

Yes...If you point out things like how sharp the rocks are at the bottom of the cliff they might just decide not to jump.

this blog has a life of its own. sometimes it's lucid and sometimes it's confused. Other times it's zany and fun.

if we take this blog too seriously and forget our own personal life, we can become harassed. No one can harass anyone here unless we allow them. I learned long ago to turn the tv off when I didn't like the script.

Some posters are just annoying, and that's as far as it goes for me.

♫

Evening bloggers,

Bob, suicide is not the answer. It's a finality.

I had an anxiety attack last night brought on by stress. At the time of the attack, desperation sets in. I thought my heart would beat out of my chest. Pressure pains in arms and neck.

Afterwards I got angry that something could give me an attack like that.

I think maybe if you get angry at what is happening it will help you through it also.

Yes...If you point out things like how sharp the rocks are at the bottom of the cliff they might just decide not to jump.

Posted by: Nobody at December 28, 2005 08:23 PM

Good luck with all that...all you've done,imo, in the case you bring up, is to create fear where fear may not be warranted.

Cats rule

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at December 28, 2005 06:45 PM
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That's only because they have good obedient staff.

Tonid's right. If you experience things you feel they dissipate right away. They may come back again, but if you resists them they stay til you deal. I never resist it when I'm angry, even when it's uncomfortable to confront...to me, in thelong run it's best to deal with what you feel right away or it turns into something larger than it began as.

Good luck with all that...all you've done,imo, in the case you bring up, is to create fear where fear may not be warranted.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 08:27 PM

What unwarranted fear would that be? And where should I stop in my preparedness? What issues will I ignore?

“The purpose of life is a life of purpose.” - Robert Byrne

Posted by: Akaka Bill at December 28, 2005 07:40 PM

etc etc etc etc etc

akaka bill, you can say it's not spam, but that doesn't make it so. Are you targeting one person whom you believe to be spamming you, or all of us because we won't cry with you?

You've heard of libido.
Now what is albedo?

What eventuality is too far from reality to prepare for?

A totalitarian governemnt that spies on it's citizens?

I was laughed at for that belief once upon a time...

Are you still laughing?

Just because you fell and hurt yourself on rocks doesn't mean that someone else will. You can share your own experience of the rocks. But your experience won't be someone elses, necessarily, imo.

Just because you fell and hurt yourself on rocks doesn't mean that someone else will. You can share your own experience of the rocks. But your experience won't be someone elses, necessarily, imo.

Posted by: A. at December 28, 2005 08:33 PM

Aww but if I share my experience you will just say that I'm brinin unwarranted fears to light.

Gravity is but one reality that all share.