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October 25, 2005

ROSA PARKS, R.I.P.

NYTimes:

Rosa Parks, a black seamstress whose refusal to relinquish her seat to a white man on a city bus in Montgomery, Ala., almost 50 years ago grew into a mythic event that helped touch off the civil rights movement of the 1950's and 1960's, died at her home yesterday in Detroit. She was 92 years old.

Posted by not sam at October 25, 2005 12:33 AM

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Goodbye Rosa

Posted by: Meg at October 25, 2005 12:36 AM

i can feel my personailty. is that weird of me?#

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 12:34 AM

Nope .. I was just talking to my friend Boone and she was like .. how do you prove you are you with no ID or anything like that.. and I think it is quite impossible...

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:38 AM


thank you, Rosa

we love you

Posted by: bridge at October 25, 2005 12:38 AM

Rosa Parks, a truly great American....

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 12:38 AM

Posted by: Harold at October 25, 2005 12:33 AM

Ya, that link-making was quite the feat, Harold.

Posted by: Snarky Observer at October 25, 2005 12:39 AM

I bet ya some asshole right winger will say something disreputable about Parks tomorrow.

But then, what would you expect from the right wing?

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 12:40 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 12:42 AM

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 12:43 AM

Sorry Rosa .. paid my albeit obscure repects last thread:

Death, be not proud, though some have called thee

Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so;

For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow

Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.

From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,

Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow

And soonest our best men with thee do go,

Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery.

Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,

And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell;

And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well

And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?

One short sleep past, we wake eternally,

And death shall be no more; Death thou shalt die.

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:44 AM

I bet ya some asshole right winger will say something disreputable about Parks tomorrow.

But then, what would you expect from the right wing?

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 12:40 AM

Mmm... yes. I can hear Barbara Bush's take on it now.

Reporter: Mrs Bush!! Mrs Bush?? Do you have anything to say about the death of Rosa Parks yesterday??

Barbara 'They Never Had It So Good' Bush: Who?

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:47 AM


I bet ya some asshole right winger will say something disreputable about Parks tomorrow.

But then, what would you expect from the right wing?

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 12:40 AM

-----------------

Excpect snide remarks about how "the left" thinks she's a saint, but she really was just a criminal. After all, it was the law that she give up her seat. Even if the law wasn't just, it still makes her a criminal.

See? I can occasionally channel Ann Coulter! Now, I need to go take a bath.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:48 AM

eya w

Bgurl just got in

heard "Two Sides Of Myself" by Tarentel

really liked it, me too

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 12:49 AM

Mmm... yes. I can hear Barbara Bush's take on it now.

Reporter: Mrs Bush!! Mrs Bush?? Do you have anything to say about the death of Rosa Parks yesterday??

Barbara 'They Never Had It So Good' Bush: Who?

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:47 AM

--------------------

Or maybe:

Babs - "Why should I bother my beautiful mind about some old dead black woman when my son is being persecuted?"

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:51 AM

Watchin' this Nova on dogs .. totally spanking yuppies who buy dogs like Huskies who live in apartments because they want to portray themselves as outdoorsy!! Yes!!! Thank You!! The dog doesn't have a behavior problem .. you dumbassed yuppy!! YOU DO!!!!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:52 AM

On another topic, Im really glad my favorite NPR reporter, Ann Garrels, was not in the Palistine Hotel today.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:54 AM

eya Ja

working on the yard and house.

gotta put in a wood burner pretty soon

lotsa projects, was a beauty day too! howza u?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 12:54 AM

Or maybe:

Babs - "Why should I bother my beautiful mind about some old dead black woman when my son is being persecuted?"

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:51 AM

Actually, I thought she would reserve that comment for the occasion of our 2oooth dead soldier in Iraq! : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:55 AM

heard "Two Sides Of Myself" by Tarentel

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 12:49 AM

It's a nice winter nite piece. I bet i'll go crazy if I heard it mid august tho.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 12:55 AM

ROSA PARKS

Rosa Parks, a black seamstress whose refusal to relinquish her seat to a white man on a city bus in Montgomery, Ala., almost 50 years ago grew into a mythic event that helped touch off the civil rights movement of the 1950's and 1960's, died at her home yesterday in Detroit. She was 92 years old.

Posted by not sam at October 25, 2005 12:33 AM

...

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at October 25, 2005 12:55 AM

"Olinga" by mary_lou_williams (post bebop)

Oooo nice, love that syle of jazz drumming myself.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 12:58 AM

Coulter will say something insulting about Parks, perhaps on Bill Maher's programme. Bill Maher is a good example of men. They will do anything for sex, including putting a Nazi-Fascist on. (I'm assuming that Anne and Bill have had relations, because I don't understand why he would constantly have her on)....


Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 1:03 AM

Out for a bit,

back inna while )

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 1:03 AM

GOP Tragedies jog GOP shift on stem cells, Until it Effects them, They Don't Care

COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

WASHINGTON – Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, R-Mo., who has repeatedly authored bills that would ban abortion, once told a wheelchair-using young man she could never support the stem cell research that he believed might one day help him walk.

But then her close friends had a baby with muscular dystrophy, her husband developed cancer and died, and her mother-in-law succumbed to dementia. The day after her mother-in-law's death in May, Emerson stood on the House floor and asked: "Do they not have as much right to life as that embryo that is going to be tossed away?"

SNIP

Longtime abortion foe Bill Frist, the Senate majority leader from Tennessee, referenced his ethical responsibilities as a transplant surgeon when he announced this summer that he would break with Bush and support the House bill. "I am a physician," Frist told his colleagues. "My profession is healing. I have devoted my life to attending to the needs of the sick and suffering. . . . In all forms of stem cell research, I see . . . great promise to heal." Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, who has opposed abortion for all of his 21 years in Congress, said his support for stem cell research is based partly on family tragedies: His father died of complications from diabetes at 71, his brother died of liver cancer at 44, and his first granddaughter died in the womb because of a crimped umbilical cord. Other prominent, anti-abortion Republicans who supported the House bill included Bakersfield Rep. Bill Thomas, who is chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, and Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 1:05 AM

Hey, Mystery...

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:05 AM

Feeling a bit down, Mystery. No offers on my residence, yet. But it's only been a month, but I want/need to leave soon.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:07 AM

Watch the chimp troop spins

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/24/AR2005102402000.html

Presidents Past Inspire Bush's Damage Control

Facing a convergence of crises threatening his administration, President Bush and his team are devising plans to salvage the remainder of his presidency by applying the lessons of past two-term chief executives and refocusing attention on the president's larger economic and foreign policy goals.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 1:11 AM

To deal with what they consider the darkest days of the Bush presidency, White House advisers have developed a twofold strategy -- confront head-on problems such as the Iraq death toll, while shifting attention to other areas such as conservative economic policies, according to a senior White House official, who spoke about internal deliberations only under the condition of anonymity. Bush advisers are taking clues from the playbooks of former presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, both of whom weathered second-term scandals.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 1:11 AM

Bush advisers are taking clues from the playbooks of former presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, both of whom weathered second-term scandals.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 01:11 AM

It won't work.

Clinton and Reagan didn't have us in the Middle of a War and a War plan that is a Failure.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 1:14 AM

Rosa parks did nothing but sit her damn ass in a bus!

Posted by: Cedric The Entertainer at October 25, 2005 1:15 AM

You see, Cedric has already started....

Never found Cedric very entertaining (and never saw Barbershop, for that matter)...

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 1:17 AM

Thats right! She's too lazy to go to the back and now her funky ass all over history books. Bitch shulda just said she's tired.

Posted by: Cedric The Entertainer at October 25, 2005 1:19 AM

Go ahead! Treat her like she's goddam Moses but you know she's just a tired lazy ass bitch. Can I get an Amen somewhere here?

Posted by: Cedric The Entertainer at October 25, 2005 1:21 AM

Feeling a bit down, Mystery. No offers on my residence, yet. But it's only been a month, but I want/need to leave soon.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 01:07 AM

Sorry English! Am trying to blog, do the internets and watch 'Being Human'!

That sucks .. is the market slow down there? Do you have it on with a realtor or FSBO?

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:21 AM

Clinton and Reagan didn't have us in the Middle of a War and a War plan that is a Failure.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 01:14 AM

the bush administration failure should by now amplifying each other.

(eg. Rice failure to send positive signal in middle east causes high oil price. The over bad economic policy plus bad disaster management causes energy price spike. All those combines to bad growth. on top of crisis of leadership.

but we can't never under estimate Rove. He still have a couple of media tricks he can pull.)

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 1:22 AM

Everyone is so...oh Rosa Parks this...Rosa Parks that...bitch just was tired and got her ass beat. If she weren't so goddam lazy she would've never had her name in the news anyhow!

Posted by: Cedric The Entertainer at October 25, 2005 1:24 AM

here is a funny story. well not funny. my roomate lost his job, it was a pretty good job.
Anyway, he was showing me his new bagel uniform
and he said that he felt hopeful because women
like men in uniforms.

But then he got sad for a second and said
"But everyone will think I have low admirations."


Posted by: # at October 25, 2005 1:25 AM

Screamin ass white boys and gals. Thinking they gonna do something to help the "po black folk" by whoopin and hollering about Rosa parks. Go sit your ass down in a bus and you done your duty.

Cracker asses!

Posted by: Cedric The Entertainer at October 25, 2005 1:27 AM

I don't know if the market is slow. We've had 8 showings (including 2 last week) since it's been on the market. We've only had one bad one, and the woman was in a crabby mood anyway, so we dismissed that.

We're using a realtor. A problem I think is that everyone told us we were going to sell quickly (including friends and co-workers), like in 2-4 weeks, and it hasn't happened. Like I said, it's only been a month anyway, but I'm very impatient.

We're selling a condo, not a house. So I don't think it's going to be too long. The last 2 clients love our walk in closet. Huge amount of space. They really dug that. So we told our realtor to lean on them (gently), and tell them we're willing to negotiate.


Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:28 AM

But then he got sad for a second and said "But everyone will think I have low admirations."

Posted by: # at October 25, 2005 01:25 AM


That was the funny part ..yes?? The 'low admirations' part?? I hope!?!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:29 AM

none of it was really that funny. #

just sometimes life is like a book. that i will
never write.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:30 AM

just sometimes life is like a book. that i will never write.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 01:30 AM

-----

Now, i liked that. :)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 1:34 AM

So we told our realtor to lean on them (gently), and tell them we're willing to negotiate.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 01:28 AM

Also have your realtor get feed back from people who come to showings and Open Houses. What would they change to make it more comfortable for them?

There is this great show called "Designed to Sell" on HGTV .. shows great cheap ways to alter your place to get it to sell and sometimes sell for more than you are asking.

Things like fresh paint. Remove all furniture that is un-necessary .. makes the place seem bigger. Have a theme for rooms .. Bedroom, Extra Bedroom, Den, what have you. Clear out the clutter .. move out boxes to another place garage.. what have you. Basically, prepare for your move and leaving the place by removing everything you absolutely do not need.

Lemme see if I can find a link .. it's pretty cool. I wish that would work to sell this place .. but it won't! : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:38 AM

We've done quite a lot of what you've written. We re-tiled the kitchen (with adhesive tile, easily removed if the new owners dislike it), painted the backsplash in the kitchen (i.e. behind the sink), and removed as much clutter as possible.

And no erotic novels lying about the place (even though that would be interesting).

Someone at work said I should get a haircut, as my hair looks likes Einstein's and Mitch Hedberg....

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:41 AM

In referring to my hair, I meant I may be scaring potential buyers (but I comb it a lot more these days, as I like to take care of it).

I'd like to meet David Cross and offer him some of my hair. I have too much as it is.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:43 AM

thanks. i think i need to get off my blue kick
and look forward to the rest of my life.

aftertherevolution

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:43 AM

I'm listen to the best jazz (and I hate modern jazz)

from me alma's radio station.

And it be snowing!!!!!!

All is well!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 1:43 AM

Here ya go! Design to Sell

If you click into the episodes...Like the first one listed here .. "Cross Country Move" ... click on the link under "In this Episode" ... (it'll just say the episods name again) it'll give you a detailed description of the episode .. with pictures of before and after. Might help ...??

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:43 AM

English, I read an interview in Entertainment Weekly with Larry the Cable Guy, and he dissed Cross for saying Larry's fans were rednecked idiots....

I think Cross is probably correct...

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 1:46 AM

none of it was really that funny. #

just sometimes life is like a book. that i will never write.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 01:30 AM

Well.. no .. I guess not. But .. ya know .. using admirations instead of aspirations .. thought it was kinda cute .. in a really sad way. : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:47 AM

.. thought it was kinda cute .. in a really sad way. : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 01:47 AM

---------

Don't bring me down, Meg

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 1:50 AM

Well.. no .. I guess not. But .. ya know .. using admirations instead of aspirations .. thought it was kinda cute .. in a really sad way. : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 01:47 AM

yeh. thats my roomate. he is really sweet tho.
he has been there for me a lot.

larrythecableguy

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:50 AM

I watched Blue Collar TV once (with Mr. Cable Guy), and it was average (at best). But the crowd thought they were seeing comic genius (which they weren't).

The Marx Brothers were comic geniuses. Peter Sellers, Charlie Chaplin, Monty Python, etc., etc..

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:52 AM

How 'bout Cross and Larry in a steel cage match, with Janeane as guest referee?

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 1:53 AM

i hate blue collar TV. :)

Larry, the Capable Guy

#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:53 AM

And no erotic novels lying about the place (even though that would be interesting).

Someone at work said I should get a haircut, as my hair looks likes Einstein's and Mitch Hedberg....

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 01:41 AM

Screw 'em!! Leave your hair wild .. you shouldn't be there when they show the place anyway!!

And leave a spare copy of "Justine" laying about. Only those who know will get it! And they will probably giggle!! : D

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 1:54 AM

Watch "the Little Dictator"

Heelarious!...And topical!!!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 1:54 AM

i am just posting links on the cable guy because
i am bored.

i hate Jeff Foxworthy because he thinks he is really funny. thats wrong to hate someone because
of that. i don't hate him. he's just not self knowlegdable.#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:56 AM

There's actually someone here at all showings, as the Mrs. had a bad experience with lock boxes. Some client had brought their kids, and they trashed my wife's bedroom (and terrorized her cat). But we step out into the hall when the clients arrive, and let them look around at their leisure.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 1:57 AM

ok. well. im off. i seem to be getting dumber
by the minute. have fun. #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 1:58 AM

Wonder if Foxworthy was ever on the MR? Probably not.

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 1:59 AM

Alright..

Now my feelings are hurt.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:03 AM

Don't bring me down, Meg

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 01:50 AM

Three letters in the name .. but wrong ones!! ; )

Notorious W*I*L!!! : D - LOL!!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:13 AM

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at October 25, 2005 2:13 AM

ok. well. im off. i seem to be getting dumber by the minute. have fun. #

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 01:58 AM

NO!! You are not!!

Have a Good Night Connie!!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:14 AM

Shit.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:14 AM

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:20 AM

Hey willow!

I'm in such a good mood, yet I no not why.

I may have rapped my head.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:20 AM

One of the most notorious films ever made comes out on DVD tomorrow. Not Gigli (or Wet Hot American Summer), but Cannibal Holocaust. The story starts with a NYU professor flying to the Amazon to find 4 documentary filmmakers. The documentary filmmakers went to film a "lost" cannibal tribe. The filmmakers disappeared. The professor goes to the Amazon, discovers they are dead, and finds their footage. He goes back to NYU to screen it, and is devastated by what he finds.

The filmmakers of The Blair Shit Project, essentially, ripped this film off. This film is better, but it is incredibly gruesome and depressing. Not your typical Sunday matinee, to say the least...

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at October 25, 2005 2:27 AM

Ya, that link-making was quite the feat, Harold.

Posted by: Snarky Observer at October 25, 2005 12:39 AM

I was practicing. And you know what they say ...

Posted by: Harold at October 25, 2005 2:28 AM

Willow, are you interested in moving back to Chicago, and buying my place?


Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 2:29 AM

Hey willow!

I'm in such a good mood, yet I no not why.

I may have rapped my head.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 02:20 AM

Do you look like this?!? : D - LOL!!!

I know the feeling though .. the happy feeling. Had it big time last night!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:30 AM

Smart ass...ain't ya?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:33 AM

Willow, are you interested in moving back to Chicago, and buying my place?

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 02:29 AM

I want to move back ...but pretty much stuck here! : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:37 AM

Smart ass...ain't ya?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 02:33 AM

I cannot tell a lie .. YUP!! : )

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:40 AM

Oh, I think it's bloody gums murphey!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:41 AM

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 02:40 AM

--------

(smack)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:43 AM

*Ow!*

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:44 AM

:)

I hope not too hard!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:46 AM

Well, if you change your mind, email me. Our place has only been on the market a month, so it's no time to panic. Honestly, we're going to take the first offer if it's anywhere near our asking price. We're tired of living in Chicago (I know you miss it, but I have to get out for the reasons I stated in that recent email I sent you).

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 2:46 AM

I wish you guys could hear this music!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:50 AM

Well, if you change your mind, email me. Our place has only been on the market a month, so it's no time to panic. Honestly, we're going to take the first offer if it's anywhere near our asking price. We're tired of living in Chicago (I know you miss it, but I have to get out for the reasons I stated in that recent email I sent you).

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 02:46 AM

Hey ... I have also spent the majority of the last 22 years of my life elsewhere!! So .. I can understand the urge to leave. I just want to go back now. But .. that won't happen for a long time, if at all. If I move anywhere .. I have the very strong feeling it will be San Diego.

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:52 AM

The world needs my insane humour, anyway, Wil. And I need an audience. Don't mean to sound pretentious, but that's how I feel. So onward, we go!

Back in a few minutes.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 2:52 AM

Yeah, living in the same place gets real tiresome, regardless of where it is.

Now, really back in a few.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 2:54 AM

I will probably be snoozin' soon .. my movie is almost over! Very good .... but I love Robin .. so .. anything he is in .. I love!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:54 AM

Your 22 wil?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 2:55 AM

Your 22 wil?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 02:55 AM

Oh Dear God!! I wish! I just turned 40 : / however .. I am exceedingly immature for my age .. so in my head .. about 28!! : )

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 2:58 AM

Oh Dear God!! I wish! I just turned 40 : / however .. I am exceedingly immature for my age .. so in my head .. about 28!! : )

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 02:5

--------

(big smile)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:02 AM

(big smile)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 03:02 AM

Big Smile!! Big Smile!!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 3:08 AM

Ohhhh!!!!

I thought it was "The Little Dictator"

I'm all off today.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:11 AM

Good night, Wil. Drop me an email.

Posted by: The English Mail Coach at October 25, 2005 3:16 AM

Good Night English!! Sweet Dreams of Sold Real Estate to you!! : )

Well.. I am out now, too MJP .. movie is over!

We'll see ya tomorrow .. well.. actually later today no doubt!! : )

Sweet Dreams to you when you head to the Land of Nod!!!

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 3:21 AM

Night wil!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:23 AM

I can't sleep just yet...

Is anybody else about?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:33 AM

im about...

about, about, about

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 3:37 AM

(he speaks as tumbleweeds pass)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:38 AM

Who be you, LOP?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:40 AM

Who you be MJP?

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 3:42 AM

Insomniac, sweetie!

also writer, and purveyor of exotic goods.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:45 AM

On the blog?

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 3:46 AM

It was a metaphor.

(he stretches and eyes his bed)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:49 AM

Is it hard to strectch your bed or you do have a mat?

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 3:57 AM

I prefer the soup, sweets.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 3:59 AM

Is it hard to strectch your bed or you do have a mat?

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 03:57 AM

Damn funny!!

Posted by: Imogene Image at October 25, 2005 4:02 AM

I prefer the soup, sweets.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 03:59 AM

Verrry classy MJP.

Posted by: watchin at October 25, 2005 4:07 AM

a

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 4:14 AM

b

Posted by: Imogene Image at October 25, 2005 4:15 AM

c

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 4:20 AM

d

Posted by: Bert at October 25, 2005 4:27 AM

E!! E is for Ernie!! And Elmo!!

Posted by: Ernie at October 25, 2005 4:32 AM

F

Posted by: Frankenstein at October 25, 2005 4:42 AM

G

Posted by: Gendel at October 25, 2005 4:45 AM

Shit! Damn my Medieval Spelling!

Posted by: Grendel at October 25, 2005 4:46 AM

H .. H is for Hotel California

Posted by: Henley & Frey at October 25, 2005 4:48 AM

a

Posted by: LOP at October 25, 2005 04:14 AM

b

Posted by: Imogene Image at October 25, 2005 04:15 AM

It must be awfull being lonely AND dumb.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 4:59 AM

She must really miss the spotlight…

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cindy Sheehan, the military mother who made her son's death in Iraq a rallying point for the anti-war movement, plans to tie herself to the White House fence to protest the milestone of 2,000 U.S. military deaths in Iraq.

"I'm going to go to Washington, D.C. and I'm going to give a speech at the White House, and after I do, I'm going to tie myself to the fence and refuse to leave until they agree to bring our troops home," Sheehan said in a telephone interview last week as the milestone approached.
"And I'll probably get arrested, and when I get out, I'll go back and do the same thing," she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/IraqCoverage/wireStory?id=1242048

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 5:41 AM

2000

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 6:02 AM

i need a break from this:

Bush’s Potemkin village presidency - Sidney Blumenthal - 23-9-2005

[excerpt]

//Even the words are the same. On Iraq, President Bush declared on 4 Feb 2004, “We will do what it takes. We will not leave until the job is done.”

On post-Hurricane Katrina reconstruction, on 15 Sep 2005, he eerily echoed, “We will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes.”

It was reassuring for the nation to be told by the president in his televised address that he intends to “stay” in the United States and not cut and run.

[....]

The jarring reverberation of repetitive rhetoric suggested a presidency on a feedback loop.//

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 6:45 AM

so i'll write this...

"u're infatuated with reagan", war-dog

"it's time to come in from the cold,

sunshine.

take my hand & we'll walk on water.

be not afraid."

several days later, war-dog's bloated body is found washed ashore

frothy surf washes over a tiny crab feasting on an eyeball

& it takes refuge in one of war-dog's nostrils

which one?

can't disclosed while "there's an on-going investigation"

haven't u read the news!? (grrrr)

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 6:52 AM

Who woulda guessed..??

Galloway was on Saddam payroll..!!

It did seem a little off that he would support a murdering dictator and terrorist..

The Money always talks don't it???

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US Senate 'finds Iraq oil cash in Galloway's wife's bank account'

From James Bone in New York and David Charter in Washington



GEORGE GALLOWAY faces possible criminal charges after a US Senate investigation tracked $150,000 (£85,000) in Iraqi oil money to his wife’s bank account in Jordan.
The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations will refer the Respect Party MP for possible prosecution after concluding that he gave “false and misleading” testimony at his appearance before the panel in May.



The sub-committee claimed that, through intermediaries, Mr Galloway and the Mariam Appeal were granted eight allocations of Iraqi crude oil totalling 23 million barrels from 1999 to 2003.

It will also forward the new information to British authorities, saying it raised questions about Mr Galloway’s financial disclosure and the payment of illegal kickbacks to Iraq. “We have what we would call the smoking gun,” said Senator Norm Coleman, the sub-committee’s Republican chairman.

The sub-committee’s report, released today, was provoked by Mr Galloway’s clash with the senators — which he turned into a book entitled Mr Galloway goes to Washington. In that encounter, the anti-war MP vehemently denied receiving oil allocations from Iraq.


Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:09 AM

Well you know what this means..

I must add Galloway to the "The List"

Can you imagine the nerve of this guy..

He is right up there with Cindy!!!

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Galloway's attacks congress

Justice Miers

Anti-war rally (boy did that suck)

Bush been Drinkin

Hurricane Katrina

Justice Roberts

Cindy Sheehan

Karl Rove

CAFTA

Hackett in Ohio

Tom Delay

Bolton

Bush is a Fascist

Gannon sex ring

Downing St Memo

Impeachment

War Crimes

Electoral College vote

Recount

Bush is Hitler

Vote Fraud

Bev

Voter Suppression

AWOL

Michael Moore Movie

Bush Crime Family

WMD

911 Attacks

Florida 2000

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:13 AM

What was the "Bev" shiny scandal?

It musta been so short-lived that I never caught it.

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 7:18 AM

Cheney a good War Dog.

He gonna take one for the team.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:22 AM

2000

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:24 AM

Add the number 2000 to your list Dog.

Have some respect.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:25 AM

What was the "Bev" shiny scandal?

It musta been so short-lived that I never caught it.

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 07:18 AM

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Bev... One of my favs...

After the 2004 election..

Bev became the focus of the "Bush cheated" crowd..

She started raising money for "The fight"..

A great many folks sent her a check..

A lot of checks..

Then Bev kinda went missing...

Randi Rhodes went nuts and attacked Bev..

Then like is all faded away into the night!!!

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 7:26 AM

Add the number 2000 to your list Dog.

Have some respect.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 07:25 AM

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It is on there..

Florida 2000

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:27 AM

No, Asshole... disrespectful neocon Asshole.

CNN: 2000 US Soldiers dead in Iraq

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:28 AM


Isn't this how Vietnam ended??

Didn't Congress stop the funding?

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Peace group urges Congress to stop Iraq war funds
WASHINGTON:

As the U.S. military death toll in Iraq neared 2,000, the pacifist group American Friends Service Committee urged Congress on Monday to halt funding for the Iraqi war.

''As parents, citizens and compassionate people, we have to demand that the funding of this exhausted war stops now, before one more death occurs or one more dollar is spent,'' Lila Lipscomb, whose son Sgt. Michael Pederson was killed in Iraq in 2003, said in a statement announcing the campaign.

Lipscomb was set to speak at an anti-war event in Lansing, Michigan, on the day after the 2,000th U.S. military death is reported, one of hundreds of such demonstrations planned across the United States.

As of today, the reported U.S. military death toll in Iraq stood at 1,997.

Cindy Sheehan, who made her soldier son's death in Iraq a rallying point for the anti-war movement, said she plans to tie herself to the White House fence to protest the 2,000th death.

''I'm going to tie myself to the fence and refuse to leave until they agree to bring our troops home,'' Sheehan said in a telephone interview last week as the milestone approached. ''And I'll probably get arrested, and when I get out, I'll go back and do the same thing.'' The anti-war group Peace Action called on Congress to pull troops out of Iraq.

President George W. ''Bush's insistence on continued military occupation feeds the insurgency. Congress must now take the leadership role in bringing our troops home,'' said Kevin M. Martin, executive director of Peace Action.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:28 AM

No, Asshole... disrespectful neocon Asshole.

CNN: 2000 US Soldiers dead in Iraq

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 07:28 AM

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On the Long List of Loony Left Losers????

I don't think so!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:30 AM

Iraqi Draft Constitution passes.

War Dog Wrong

Again

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:30 AM

Iraqi Draft Constitution passes.

War Dog Wrong

Again

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 07:30 AM

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You must be sleepy Fish..

You know better..

But did you know..

That the "New Constitution" is in trouble now..??

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:32 AM

Uh Oh Looks Like Coleman is going too look like A FOOL Again...HAHAHAHA

Galloway challenges US senators

BBC

George Galloway has rejected claims he lied under oath to the US Senate committee which accused him of receiving oil cash from Saddam Hussein.
The Respect MP ridiculed the senators' claims during a hearing in May.

Now they say fresh evidence links him and his estranged wife to Iraq's oil-for-food programme. Mr Galloway and his wife both deny the allegations.

Mr Galloway said: "I am ready to fly to the US today... to face such a charge (perjury) because it is simply false."

Coleman should focus on "Brownie" those lies he told about what he was doing during Katrina, Can be Proven.

HAHAHA

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 7:33 AM

Mr Galloway said: "I am ready to fly to the US today... to face such a charge (perjury) because it is simply false."

==================================================

If I were him I would stay home..

If Galloway flys here..

He may not go home for a few years..

Take the Money and Run!!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:34 AM

Posted by: 15 Cent Screw [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:35 AM

No one cares about your fucking list anyway. Do what you want.

Merry Fitzmas.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:35 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:36 AM

~~~ That the "New Constitution" is in trouble now..?? ~~~

Try to keep up Dog.

It was just on TV, Live from the Green Zone.

Constitution passed.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:38 AM

If I were him I would stay home..

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 07:34 AM

If you were him you'd probably be Guilty!!

HAHAHA

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 7:39 AM

//I must add Galloway to the "The List"//

not so fast, war-dog

i googled :James Bone David Charter US Senate 'finds Iraq oil cash in Galloway's wife's bank account'

NOTHING!

NOTHING!

if this is not apocrypha (baloney), it's very disappointing

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 7:39 AM

Good point... so far in the UN Oil for Food Investigation... the only US citizen indicted is a Republican.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:40 AM

It was just on TV, Live from the Green Zone.

Constitution passed.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 07:38 AM

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That is indeed good news..!!

Now they can elect and permanent Iraqi Parliament on December 15th..

This in another big step toward Democracy..

Then we can deal with Syria...!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:42 AM

I think War Dog was just on C-SPAN

There was a Man who just called in and said

"Whenever Bush talks or gives a speech

He has a Sexual Orgasm

and wants to fly

over to the Middle East

and Kill Arab's"

HAHAHA

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 7:43 AM

here's a word list, war-dog

1."the

2.british

3.government

4.has

5.learned

6.that

7.saddam

8.hussein

9.recently

10.sought

11.significant

12.quantities

13.of

14.uranium

15.from

16.africa" -from bush's state of the union address

17. 2000 dead!

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 7:44 AM

Exactly... War Dog... Wrong

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:48 AM


If Fish was right about February..

Just think what we could do...

================================================

Bush says military action 'last resort' against Syria

By Philippe Naughton and agencies



President Bush said today that military action was a "last resort" in dealing with Syria if Damascus refused to co-operate with a United Nations investigation into the murder of Rafik Hariri, the former Lebanese prime minister.



The UN Security Council is due to be briefed tonight by Detlev Mehlis, the German prosecutor whose report last week found evidence of high-level Syrian involvement in the bombing that killed Mr Hariri and 20 others in Beirut in February.

US and French diplomats in New York are leading the drive to have a strongly worded resolution passed by the council next week calling on Syria to co-operate fully with the Mehlis probe.

"A military (option) is always the last choice of a president," Mr Bush told al-Arabiya television in an interview broadcast today. "I am hoping that they will cooperate. It is the last -- very last option... I’ve worked hard for diplomacy and will continue to work the diplomatic angle on this issue."


Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:50 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 07:48 AM

Killer Act.

Posted by: 15 Cent Screw [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:53 AM

//I must add Galloway to the "The List"

Can you imagine the nerve of this guy..

He is right up there with Cindy!!!//

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 07:13 AM

why is galloway //right up there with Cindy!!!//

are u suggesting she's a stooge

hmmm...

or maybe her dead son isn't dead & he's in a cave with osama bin laden

living high on saudi petro-dollars

"now watch this drive, motherfucker"

2,000 dead - cindy's son = 1,999 dead

so i lied

2,000 aren't dead

1,999 are dead

that's a whopping difference in doggie-spin world

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 7:55 AM

You think Congress is gonna let Bush invade anything, Dog?

Ever again?

He's gotta have reasons!

No one believes him!

Now, even if we really need to invade someobody... we can't!

Way to protect the United States, Bush!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 7:56 AM

I guess Cindy will try to make a Comeback this week..

It is gonna be tough..

Cindy has lost her Shiny Thing Status..

=================================================

CINDY

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 7:56 AM

why aren't you reporting on the plame-leak, war-dog

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:00 AM

We got Cindy.

War Dog's side has that preacher who, because the military accepts gays, protests the funerals of Soldiers who die in Iraq.

I think we're lucky!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:01 AM

//I guess Cindy will try to make a Comeback this week..//

well she might, war-dog

let's not pre-judge the outcome

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:02 AM

why aren't you reporting on the plame-leak, war-dog

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 08:00 AM

==================================================

Just like you..

I do not have any info on that..

Everything your read says nothing..

What did they do?

And who do think did something?

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 8:02 AM

And ya better fortify, Dog!

KCMO prime environment for race riots!

That motor home up-armored?

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:03 AM

//And who do think did something?//

"who do"?!

LMAO!!

WHO DO

who do

put that on ur list, who-do

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:06 AM

War Dog's side has that preacher who, because the military accepts gays, protests the funerals of Soldiers who die in Iraq.

=================================================

Yes, he is in our area..

Topeka I think..

They were talkin about this guy yesterday..

Fred Phelps..

They are goin after hime this time..

This could get rough!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 8:06 AM

White House Is Seeking Exception in Detainee Abuse Ban

A Brief on the Article:

During a Secret meeting last Thursday

Cheney pleaded with McCain to allow Torture, McCain said FU Cheney.

McCain won't allow Torture, it's un-American.


Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 8:07 AM

Condi... first Woman Vice President of the United States of America.

Lotta folks on FOXNews getting word Cheney stepping down.... Condi in.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:07 AM

who do, fish

do you know wot i'm saying

no, nor do i

maybe who-do does

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:08 AM

~~~ Topeka I think ~~~

My area?

I'm in Wyoming!

In Kansas... I was in Manhattan!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:10 AM

nor do i

maybe who-do does

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 08:08 AM

Ask his brother Who-Dat

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 8:11 AM

//after hime this time..//

hey, ya rappin', who-do

nice one, dude

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:12 AM

~~~ who do, fish ~~~

Mancow... he a loony-right callin to their gay morning program.

Gots contacts. There've been rumors on the right for three weeks now. Bye-bye Cheney... Hello Condi.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:14 AM

//Ask his brother Who-Dat//

lol!

(home-run)

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:14 AM

gay morning program.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 08:14 AM

Except on Tiki Tuesday...

Tiki Barber pretty cool!!!

Then the gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) weather guy took over at 6am

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 8:16 AM

//~~~ who do, fish ~~~//

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 08:14 AM

it was a joke, fish

but this ain't... //Bye-bye Cheney... Hello Condi.//

or maybe... hilary!!

: )

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:18 AM

My area?

I'm in Wyoming!

In Kansas... I was in Manhattan!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 08:10 AM

================================================

As in my area...

It is only a matter of time now..

This guy has been over the line forever..

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 8:18 AM

"today's topic: could hilary, if she were to replace cheney, save the bush presidency ?"

hmmm...

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:20 AM

☼☼ tuesday ~ blue cosmic eagle ☼☼

~ Nine at the beginning means: ~

Innocent behavior brings good fortune.

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at October 25, 2005 8:23 AM

WAR DOG = BLOG DUNCE

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 8:23 AM

"staunch hilary supporter, who-do (aka, war-dog), believes she can - but he would not comment any further, other than to say "who-do - who-do - who-do" over & over again"

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:24 AM

wot's ya favourite economics, who-do

"who-do economics!"

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:25 AM

Here is the other site of that Right-Wing MoonBAt

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 8:26 AM

One thing about Bob Beckel...

He's at least fairly fair.

Yeah, I got nothing else - that was it.

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 8:30 AM

June 12, 2003

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 8:35 AM

National debt passes $8,000,000,000,000.00

US Treasury

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 8:36 AM

i can't get my mind around someone basing their entire life on a pathological hatred of queers

every waking moment consumed with "kill queers"

(wooo!)

it's beyond my comprehension

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:36 AM

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 08:36 AM

whoa!

it's a week full of milestones

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 8:39 AM

it's a week full of milestones

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 08:39 AM

The Chinese own us.

We are a Bankrupt Empire.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 8:46 AM

"WBC rejoices every time the Lord God in His vengeance kills or maims an American soldier with an Improvised Explosive Device (IED)."

-- Fred Phelps, Pastor, Westboro Baptist Church, Born Again Christian and War Dog's hero.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:51 AM

-- Fred Phelps, Pastor, Westboro Baptist Church, Born Again Christian and War Dog's hero.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 08:51 AM

=================================================

I am forced to point out..

That is in the Loony Left that cheers everything the insurgency does..

If if is good for Saddam ...

It is good for the Loony Left!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 8:55 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 8:58 AM

We want the soldiers to come home, Dog!

It is YOU who rejoices over our losing 2000 US Soldiers!

Proof: "Happy Doggy Day!"

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:01 AM

We want the soldiers to come home, Dog!

It is YOU who rejoices over our losing 2000 US Soldiers!

Proof: "Happy Doggy Day!"

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 09:01 AM

================================================

I will die some day..

You will as well..

These boys died to free Millions..

No one want to die..

That does not mean no one wants to fight..

You should think about that..

This is not Vietnam..

There is no draft..

These are warriors..

They are not part of they Cindy's Peace Protest..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:07 AM

[it's] //the Loony Left that cheers everything the insurgency does..//

wot happened to all the chocolates & flowers, who-do

and u're not forced to point this out, who-do

or are ur handlers threatening you

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:07 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:10 AM

hey, who-do

where's the war-dog that has a grasp of grammar

is it his day off

also, re: //These boys died to free Millions..//

yeah, some folk are born with too many limbs

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:10 AM

in other words, let's not forget those with horrific injuries

let's not forget the bush administration under-funding VA hospitals

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:12 AM

Galloway challenges the US Senate committee to charge him

Coleman uses Saddam Cronies as Reliable Witness's

HAHAHA

Galloway's Website

The Respect MP George Galloway has thrown down a challenge to the US Senate homeland security committee to charge him with perjury and "I'll see you in court".

Galloway said that he was prepared to fly out immediately to the United States if Senator Norm Coleman, who heads the committee, was prepared to bring charges. The MP has just seen a press release from the committee which alleges that he gave "false and misleading testimony" on May 17. "I deny that absolutely. As I've said a thousand times, I've never benefited personally. Let Coleman bring these charges and I'll rebut them totally."

It is understood that senior Iraqi members of the deposed regime have made statements to the committee, including Tariq Aziz, Taha Yasin Ramadan, the former vice-president of the country, and Amer Rashid, the former oil minister. "I've never met Ramadan or Rashid but I do know that they are facing charges which may carry a death sentence. As is Tariq Aziz. He has been held incommunicado for two years - and we know what goes on in US-controlled prisons in Iraq - and we also know from his lawyers that he has been offered a deal to testify," said Galloway. "On the one hand the US government accuses these men of being homicidal maniacs, on the other they assert that their coerced testimony is utterly trustworthy. Well, let Senator Coleman bring them and his unnamed sources to court in a case against me, and we'll see what the world concludes."

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 9:13 AM

~~~ These boys died to free Millions ~~~

Supermajority of Iraqis want the US out of Iraq.

You don't.

2000 US Soldiers Dead = Happy Doggy Day

QED

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:14 AM

WAR DOG IS A BLOG DUNCE

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 9:15 AM

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 09:13 AM

cool!

another opportunity to see george in action

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:18 AM

Supermajority of Iraqis want the US out of Iraq

================================================

I am sure that Iraqi want a sovereign Democracy..

As do we all..

But I would need to see your data on the Super-majority that would like us to leave NOW..

I would suggest that it is just the opposite..

The Vast majority of Iraqis want us to stay until such time as they can provide their own security..

That is the popular opinion in Iraq and in our Congress...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:18 AM

Media did NOT cover a category 5 spinning over the same spot for 48 hours terrifying millions of residents and tourist. 30,000 RICH Americans are going to be PISSED OFF when they get back to America and find their life threatening plight was not even COVERED! With Bush's White House Incompetent BLUNDER after BLUNDER there is no room for real news...no money to help Tax Paying Citizens. OOOPS, 30,000 RICH Americans voices were not heard...hmmmm, I bet they cry like bitches when they get home.

Posted by: Texian at October 25, 2005 9:22 AM

he asks fishgrease...

//But I would need to see your data on the Super-majority that would like us to leave NOW..//

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:18 AM

yet in his previous post, he offers no proof to the claim that

//They [the military] are not part of they Cindy's Peace Protest..//

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:07 AM

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:24 AM

//not part of they Cindy's Peace Protest..//

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:07 AM

"THEY cindy's peace protest"

THEY!?

it's "the", who-do, "the"

not "they"

the!

u're not gelling today, who-do

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:29 AM

Huge majority of Iraqis want coalition to go

LINK

So it doesn't matter what YOU think Iraqis SHOULD think, Dog!

They think what they think!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:31 AM

That is the popular opinion in Iraq and in our Congress...

Liar.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:33 AM

Posted by: ♥... at October 25, 2005 9:35 AM

Wonder what day the Terror Alert will be this week.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 9:35 AM

No fewer than 82 per cent, according to the report, declared themselves 'strongly opposed' to the presence of coalition troops.

LINK

And a simple majority of Americans agree with them.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:36 AM

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

Missed you!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:37 AM

there's ya proof, who-do

now where's ur proof that //They [the military] are not part of they Cindy's Peace Protest..//

anyway, fish

who-do will parse or play semantics, "but u sed 'super-majority' before... now u're saying 'huge majority'... looney-lefties always flip-flopping"

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:38 AM

~~~ Wonder what day the Terror Alert will be this week. ~~~

It will be known as the Fitzmas Day Alert

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:38 AM

HI & Bye ♥

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 9:38 AM

there ya go, who-do

add //looney-lefties always flip-flopping// to ur dumbass list

consider it an early fitzmas present

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:40 AM

i see ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!'s

looks like'ee miss shelley's in the blog-house

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:42 AM

That is the popular opinion in Iraq and in our Congress...

Liar.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 09:33 AM

=================================================

From your undocummented survey..

(a little hard to do in Iraq)

You claim they want us to pull-out of Iraq..???

I missed that..!!

Where did it say that???

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:42 AM

super-majority = 60% in the US Senate and is NEVER greater than a two-thirds (66%) majority.

No fewer than 82 per cent, according to the report, declared themselves 'strongly opposed' to the presence of coalition troops.

That a super-duper-majority!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:43 AM

And to add to that..

I you are correct about our Congress..

Where is the vote???

No..

You are cheerin for Saddam and the Insurgency again..

But we both know he is finished..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:44 AM

kevin's left

well ain't that typical of lefties

to go and invade another country

*tsk-tsk*

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:45 AM

Okay Dog... explain how "strongly opposed to the presence of coalition troops" does not mean they want us out!

Spin that bitch!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:47 AM

Don't think I can use this as a Terror Threat...think it will have to be in a bigger city.

Threat prompts closure of Long Beach Airport

LONG BEACH, Calif. - Long Beach Airport was shut down Tuesday morning because of a bomb threat, officials said.

The threat was made in a telephone call placed to the facility around 3 a.m., said airport spokeswoman Sharon Diggs-Jackson.

All early flights were canceled, said Nancy Pratt, a spokeswoman for the Long Beach Police Department. Planes begin arriving and departing from the airport after 7 a.m., she said.

Police were searching all areas of the airport with bomb-sniffing dogs, Pratt said.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/s...

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 9:47 AM

//I you are correct about our Congress..//

"i you are"

wtf u talking about

"i you are"!

"i you are" wot?!

wot are u french, arab, chinese...?

u fucking peanut

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:48 AM

Supermajority of Iraqis want the US out of Iraq.

==================================================

No fewer than 82 per cent, according to the report, declared themselves 'strongly opposed' to the presence of coalition troops.

==================================================

Out of Iraq....

Strongly oppose..

A diff..

I would say so..

Just as no one wants to die..

No one wants to be occupied..

But they do not want us to leave until the Iraqi Army can provide security..

That is just common sense...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:48 AM

~~~ You are cheerin for Saddam and the Insurgency again ~~~

Liar.

2000 Dead American Soldiers = Happy Doggy Day

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:49 AM

Okay Dog... explain how "strongly opposed to the presence of coalition troops" does not mean they want us out!

Spin that bitch!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 09:47 AM

================================================

Is that addressed to me..

Or Ono????

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:50 AM

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:48 AM

grammar-dog is back

where's non-grammar-dog

has he been shot?

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:50 AM

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:50 AM

(lol)

~woof~

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:52 AM

~~~ But they do not want us to leave until the Iraqi Army can provide security ~~~

Show me THAT poll!

A majority of AMERICANS want us out... WHETHER OR NOT we've gottum trained!

Liar.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:52 AM

Q: how long does it take to train an army?

"here's a gun, go shoot somebody"

job done

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:55 AM

~~~ "here's a gun, go shoot somebody" ~~~

In Iraq, its more like...

"here's a gun, don't shoot me"


Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 9:57 AM

"climb this rope

jump around these tyres

here's a gun"

c'yas later

sorry about the mess

it was a catastrophic success

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 9:57 AM

They had a 5 Million man army, that crapola of waiting to train them is BS. They want us out Bush doesn't want to leave.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 9:58 AM

Sheehanite libs still claiming that a "2006 Dem Congress" means a "pull out now" strategy wins?


and ignoring the fact that the Chuck Schumer (on "Meet the Press" Sunday) STILL is NOT "regretting" his vote for the war???

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 9:59 AM

A majority of AMERICANS want us out... WHETHER OR NOT we've gottum trained!

=================================================

I disagree..

The majority of American want us to win...

They want postitive results..

Theis shown in the uptick of Bush polls after the Last Iraqi election...

================================================

Zogby on Bush's "bounce"

by Michael Stickings

According to Zogby, President Bush's approval rating is back up to 45%:

President Bush, his job approval rating beleaguered by poor marks in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, rebounded from historic lows this summer to 45% in Zogby International’s latest poll, with job approval numbers bumping back up into the range where they have hovered for most of his second term.

The survey also found that, while voters do not give the President passing marks on his handling of the Iraq War, half (50%) believe the recently-passed Iraqi constitution is a major step in the right direction for the strife-torn nation that will lead to peace and democracy. Meanwhile, 37% believe Iraq is on the brink of a civil war...

While the President’s overall job approval is up, and a 52% majority of voters hold a favorable opinion of him, his handling of any number of issues continues to score negative marks—including his handling of the War on Terror, which is now disapproved by 53% in the survey; this is typically President Bush’s strongest area in the survey.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:59 AM

Doesn't surprise me that War Dog would think he could convince us of anything he wants. For nearly 5 years, the Bush administration has tried to tell us that sending jobs overseas increased jobs here in the United States.

Up is Down.

Bad is Good.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 10:00 AM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 10:00 AM

it's lucky u got that e-bay

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:02 AM

If the Iraqi people wanted us to leave..

All they had to do was not vote during the last election...

Case closed..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:02 AM

~~~ The majority of American want us to win ~~~

Liar.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 10:02 AM

Your Rights Online: White House Cease & Desists to The Onion

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/10/25/1238235.shtml?tid=103&tid=123

"You might have thought that the White House had enough on its plate late last month, what with its search for a new Supreme Court nominee, the continuing war in Iraq and the C.I.A. leak investigation. But it found time to add another item to its agenda - stopping The Onion (soul sucking, life sapping, irritating, obnoxious, but still free registration), the satirical newspaper, from using the presidential seal." The only joke here is that our tax dollars are being spent on this.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:03 AM

SCUD BUSH!

Posted by: acts of sedition at October 25, 2005 10:03 AM

C-SPAN 3 has a Live Senate Meeting on How Broke the US is.

Showing charts and everything the GAO put together.

Showing how the Conservative Experiment is a Total Failure.

http://play.rbn.com/?url=cspan/g2cspan/live/cspan3-g2.rm&proto=rtsp

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 10:03 AM

Liar.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 10:02


==================================================

lol

Your sayin that does not make your point..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:04 AM

Hike time!

Merry Fitzmas!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 10:05 AM

Sweet lady .. I hope she can make a difference. God knows her heart is in the right place .. though evil people seem to like to degrade her for that! : /

Posted by: Mystery Blogger X at October 25, 2005 12:27 AM

Re: Cindy Sheehan... but she keeps her head in that dark place.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:06 AM

//Sheehanite libs still claiming that a "2006 Dem Congress" means a "pull out now" strategy wins?//

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 09:59 AM

~a "pull out now" strategy wins?~

WINS!?

who sed anything about "wins"

and wot do u mean by "wins"

do u think the bush administration wants to win

they want to stay

it's part of their grand strategy, fool

"wins"!

get a life

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:08 AM

Coleman should focus on "Brownie" those lies he told about what he was doing during Katrina, Can be Proven.

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 07:33 AM

That fool norm coleman still hasn't learned his last lesson. He gonna get spanked in public again. How can he survive as senator this long anyway?

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:08 AM

hike away, fish

& i gotta punch-out myself (do some reading & ssssssssleep)

: )

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:11 AM

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 09:59 AM

no link = no news = your wishfull thinking

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:12 AM

http://www.mfw.us/majority-out-of-Iraq

Gallup: Americans to Bush -- Withdraw Troops from Iraq

Published: September 06, 2005 12:55 PM ET

NEW YORK Two separate Gallup polls, detailed today in the organization's weekly report, show that Americans favor withdrawing some or all U.S. troops from Iraq.

Perhaps most revealing was a new poll which asked 1,007 Americans, "If you could talk with President Bush for 15 minutes about the situation in Iraq, what would you, personally, advise him to do?" The poll taken in late August found that 41% said they would tell him to pull troops out of Iraq and end our involvement there.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:13 AM

Poll: Fewer than half think U.S. will win in Iraq

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/22/iraq.poll/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Thursday indicated fewer than half of Americans believe the United States will win the Iraq war, and 55 percent of those surveyed said it should speed up withdrawal plans.

Only 21 percent said the United States definitely would win the war in Iraq, which began when a U.S.-led coalition invaded in 2003 to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Another 22 percent said they thought the United States probably would win.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:14 AM

I'm out also...

Wanda your incharge.

Use the whip if you have too.

8-)

Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 10:15 AM

Poll: Americans Favor Bush's Impeachment If He Lied about Iraq

By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003.

The poll was conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 6-9.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/3528

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:15 AM

no link = no news = your wishfull thinking

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:12 AM

================================================

Links!

Links!

I don't need to stinkin links!

=================================================

http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1130223791.shtml

http://newsbusters.org/node/2437

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1031

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:15 AM

Has MSM abondoned Sheehan since the Hillary bashing started?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:16 AM

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:15 AM

very nice. two wingnut blogs plus zogby (bush o rama pollster)

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:16 AM

[eh! better say to hello to wanda]

hi, wanda

: )

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:17 AM

Overall Bush poll trend. (look who is consistently on top of the rest of the group as of late. Gallup.....and zogby)

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/pollkatzmainGRAPHICS_8911_image001.gif

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:19 AM

Here is your bottom line..

Bush wants to stay in Iraq..

The Government of Iraq wants us to stay..

Our Congress wants us to stay in Iraq..

Hillary wants us to stay in Iraq..

McCain wants us to stay in Iraq..

We are stayin in Iraq..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:20 AM

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:17 AM

heya

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:21 AM

Complete list of Bush poll

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


Bush approval dips below 40 percent
NBC-WSJ poll shows only 28 percent believe U.S. headed in right direction

"Any way you slice this data, I think these are just terrible sets of numbers," said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672058/

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:23 AM

[eh! can't read until correct...] //better say_hello to wanda// & not "say to hello to"

Posted by: air-ono at October 25, 2005 10:23 AM

SUSA's latest 50-state Bush poll

# Bush is above 50 percent in only six states -- Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Nebraska and Oklahoma. Utah, at 61/36, is the only state above 60 percent. In May, Bush was above 50 percent in 13 states. In September, it was 10 states.

# 25 states are below 40 percent. Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts are all under 30 percent. Bush is 29/70 in Rhode Island.

# Overall, Bush is at 38/59.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/18/152137/24

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:24 AM

Beelzebub Bushie, he's doing one hell of a job:

1997

$203,328,718,546

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:25 AM

Lawrence Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, addressed the administration's arrogance and ineptitude in a talk last week that was astonishingly candid by Washington standards.

"We have courted disaster in Iraq, in North Korea, in Iran," said Mr. Wilkerson. "Generally, with regard to domestic crises like Katrina, Rita we haven't done very well on anything like that in a long time. And if something comes along that is truly serious, something like a nuclear weapon going off in a major American city, or something like a major pandemic, you are going to see the ineptitude of this government in a way that will take you back to the Declaration of Independence."

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001025.html

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:26 AM

Hey Wanda..

You gonna run against Bush in 2008..???

Better catch-up girl..

Pick a side..

Hillary or McCain..

You polls mean nothing...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:26 AM

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:20 AM

BizarroWorld,

or maybe thats

PlanetReebok

or McWorld?

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 10:28 AM

You gonna run against Bush in 2008..???

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:26 AM

the guy might not even make to the end of his term, you are talking about 2008?

I don't think you realize how big of a trouble your party is in.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:29 AM

war dog is a sick puppy

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 10:30 AM

I don't think you realize how big of a trouble your party is in.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:29 AM

==================================================

No, I guess I do not..

I thought Bush would be in office until Jan 2009..

Where did I go wrong???

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:30 AM

war dog is a sick puppy

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 10:30 AM

I'd like to dedicate this little ditty to V.P.

Dick Cheney...

"With the thoughts from a militant mind

Hardline, hardline after hardline

Landlords and power whores

On my people they took turns

Dispute the suits I ignite

And then watch 'em burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Yes ya gonna burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn"

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 10:33 AM

You polls mean nothing...

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:26 AM

If my polls mean nothing, yours neither. heh.

so my dear. keep on making stuff up 'mkay. your arguments are thinning by the days. Next thing we know, the court will over turned that dumbass presidency (maybe after his term ended, but all his legacy will be deemed illegal.)

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:34 AM

WAR DOG....the name suggests a irrational stance...as in "FOR WAR ANYDAY ANYTIME".

Will "WAR DOG" be supporting Dubya in any successive ventures in WAR into IRAN and SYRIA and NORTH KOREA and ON AND ON AND ON.

IS IT INDEED ANY WAR ANY TIME THAT GIVES HIM A STIFFY OR WOULD HE JUST BLOW W OVER GIVING HIM IRAQ TO VIOLENTLY MASTURBATE TO?

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 10:35 AM

I thought Bush would be in office until Jan 2009.. Where did I go wrong???

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:30 AM

How should I know. YOu've been stupid since day one. You expect me to check and do your homework now? It's your party who is in trouble for treason and perjury.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:36 AM

Rove,Hadley,"Scooter",Dick....

"With the thoughts from a militant mind

Hardline, hardline after hardline

Landlords and power whores

On my people they took turns

Dispute the suits I ignite

And then watch 'em burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Yes ya gonna burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn"

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 10:40 AM

good mornin yallz

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 10:40 AM

If my polls mean nothing, yours neither. heh.

so my dear. keep on making stuff up 'mkay. your arguments are thinning by the days. Next thing we know, the court will over turned that dumbass presidency (maybe after his term ended, but all his legacy will be deemed illegal.)

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:34 AM

=================================================

Yes, I have been sayin the polls mean nothing after the election..

But you know me..

It is all about War and Taxes..

We gotta "get" them terrorists..

And we gotta "get" them tax-cuts..

Things are fine..

I am goin on Vacation again..

Thanksgivin is comin up..

I always to to Texas for Thanksgivin..

I think that is most appropriate..

Don't you?l

Then we got Xmas..

Not your Fitsmas or whatever you call it..

But the "Real" Christmas..

Yep, 2005 has been a very good year!!

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:41 AM

Very good diary here. Rosa Parks spent decades working to make this country a better place:

Rosa Parks, Misremembered

Excerpt:

...the Times' obituary describes Parks' arrest nonetheless as an event which "turned a very private woman into a reluctant symbol and torchbearer..." Parks was certainly reluctant to see too personal valoration of her as heroine distract from the broader movement. But she was not private about her politics. And her refusal to give up her bus seat was nothing new for her. As she would later tell an interviewer, "My resistance to being mistreated on the buses and anywhere else was just a regular thing with me and not just that day."

The myth of Parks as a pre-political seamstress who was too physically worn out to move has such staying power not because there's any factual basis but because it appeals to an all-too popular narrative about how social change happens in America: When things get bad enough, an individual steps up alone, unsupported and unmediated, and spontaneously resists. And then an equally spontaneous movement follows. Such a myth makes good TV, but it's poor history.

Movement-building takes hard work, no matter how righteous the cause or how desperate the circumstances.

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 10:41 AM

greed and pride my friend will bring down anythng.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1874519

Size of Bankruptcy Bubble Surprises Banks

Now that the new bankruptcy law has taken effect, was the investment worth it? The early data suggest that sometimes, you have to be careful what you wish for.

Bankruptcy filings were supposed to snowball in the months before the tough new law went into effect on Oct. 17. But the avalanche of petitions, and the lines of debtors streaming out the courthouse doors caught even the credit card issuers who supported the new law by surprise.

In recent days, the five biggest bank issuers of credit cards have said that the unexpectedly large flood of filings shaved hundreds of million of dollars off their earnings in the third quarter.

But with tens of thousands of petitions still being processed and Hurricane Katrina's impact on cardholders still being sorted out, the bankruptcy rush is likely to result in well over a billion dollars worth of losses by the end of the year.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:42 AM

Contract leaves Pentagon with poorly armored cars, little recourse

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1874276

WASHINGTON - When the Pentagon went shopping for seven armored cars for senior Iraqi policemen, U.S. officials turned to an Iraqi supplier to provide them with some hardened Mercedes-Benzes.

After spending nearly $1 million, here's what they got: Six vehicles with bad armor and run-down mechanics. They also were a little more than slightly used: The newest model was a 1996; the oldest a 1994.

According to the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, the seventh auto is missing.

In a report released Monday, the inspector general said the Pentagon couldn't get its money back because it did such a bad job negotiating the no-bid deal.

In June, the Pentagon's Multi-National Security Transition Command-Iraq bought the seven Mercedes-Benzes for $135,000 each. They were supposed to include high-quality armor that could withstand high-velocity rifle shots.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:43 AM

Two Republicans harshly criticize Bush foreign policy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x167658

WASHINGTON - The criticisms are searing and sound like they might have come from Democratic political operatives or the liberal corner of the blogosphere:

Foreign policy under President Bush is run by a secretive "cabal" headed by Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's dream of spreading democracy around the Middle East is misguided and could backfire badly.

Those, however, are the sentiments of two leading Republicans, both associated with the Bush administration, who've broken ranks in the last week to criticize the invasion of Iraq and other foreign ventures.


One is retired Army Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who was chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell. The other is Brent Scowcroft, a former national security adviser, close friend to President George H.W. Bush and mentor to Rice.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:44 AM

morning muck

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 10:44 AM

I always to to Texas for Thanksgivin.. I think that is most appropriate..

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:41 AM

Good, try to get killed while you are at it or something.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:46 AM

I wonder if people realize Bush's poll ratings are higher than Klinton's low point, higher than Bush 41 at his low point, higher than Reagan's at his low point, and higher than Carter's at his low point.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:48 AM

good mornin bart. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 10:49 AM

Good, try to get killed while you are at it or something.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:46 AM

================================================

There is always that chance..

But I am Conservative..

I hope to live to 100!

And I promised Fish I would stay here as long as possible..

You wouldn't want me to miss Fitsmas would you??

Fitsmas is gonna be your big world beater that changes everything.

I don't wanna miss that!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:51 AM

//Good, try to get killed while you are at it or something.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:46 AM
//

jeebus! kinda harsh doent ya theenk?

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 10:55 AM

But I am Conservative..I hope to live to 100!

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:51 AM

don't bet on it. It's another one of your wishfull thinking.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:55 AM

WARB DOG is a nothing but a butt recepticle for all the crap W wants to ram in him.

Posted by: beat around the bush at October 25, 2005 10:55 AM

mornin ferns.
hopelessly hopefull here.
hope you r the same.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 10:57 AM

You might recall the Republicans (and the media) being giddy over Clinton's fall circa 1997 - remember "The Incredible Shrinking President" story line? Fiunny thing is, he was still in office, and stayed there right until January 2001.

Just as Bush will stay in, right until January 2009. Bush isn't running for anything, and the Republicans control the house and senate (and there's very little liklihood of that changing, given the gerrymandering at the house level and the current set of candidates up at the Senate level).

Which means.... the poll numbers are utterly irrelevant - just as they were in 1997.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/012355.html

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:57 AM

"The myth of Parks as a pre-political seamstress who was too physically worn out to move has such staying power not because there's any factual basis but because it appeals to an all-too popular narrative about how social change happens in America..."


Also, a lot of folks think they can slide through life being lazy, mean-spirited and greedy asshats, and then redeem themselves with one good or maybe even a heroic act. That's why folks like to believe that myth.

I reckon that's also why Bush is religious. He believes that since he's saved, redeemed, he's off the hook for a lifetime of bad acts. It is an appealing notion to a lot of folks. Why should Bush even try being good man or undoing the damage he's done? It's hard work!

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 10:58 AM

Where does Bush 43 fit in with these numbers? He looks above average to me.

Bill Clinton: 37 percent

George H. W. Bush: 29 percent

Ronald Reagan: 35 percent

Jimmy Carter: 28 percent

Gerald Ford: 37 percent

Richard Nixon: 24 percent

Lyndon Johnson: 35 percent

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 10:58 AM

don't bet on it. It's another one of your wishfull thinking.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:55 AM

==============================================

Diet..

Exercise..

Attitude..

Heredity..

Just bein happy...

I am off to a fine start..

Only 44 years left..

Let's call it 2050..

That is a good year to die!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:58 AM

I wonder if people realize Bush's poll ratings are higher than Klinton's low point, higher than Bush 41 at his low point, higher than Reagan's at his low point, and higher than Carter's at his low point.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 10:48 AM

How about you showing up 2 months from now, when winter energy price hit the hardest. Dare I say Bush 30% or lower? Bush is on track to beat Nixon from the way his poll trend moves.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-17-bushapproval_x.htm

Every president since 1963 has had approval ratings at one time or another that were lower than Bush's current rating. Those ratings include Lyndon Johnson's 35%, Richard Nixon's 24%, Gerald Ford's 37%, Jimmy Carter's 28%, Ronald Reagan's 35%, the elder George Bush's 29% and Bill Clinton's 37%.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 10:59 AM

Ja!!!!! Hooray! :)

Uh-oh. It's been two months. EEk! I owe you an apology. Do you still have the Gmail address?

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 11:00 AM

Speculation about the Plame Affair reaches all the way to the vice president

by James Ridgeway
October 25th, 2005 9:50 AM

WASHINGTON, D.C.—As the tenure runs out for the grand jury in the Valerie Plame leak case this week, the bottom line question is not so much whether Bush administration insiders I. Lewis Libby and/or Karl Rove will get indicted, but whether special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation will reach Vice President Dick Cheney himself. Rove and Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, have been notified that they are at serious legal risk in the inquiry.
Tuesday's New York Times reports that Libby learned about Plame, a covert CIA officer and wife of administration critic Joe Wilson, from talking with Cheney. According to the Times, this new revelation, drawn from "notes of the previously undisclosed conversation" between the two, contradicts Libby's testimony to the grand jury.

"It would not be illegal for either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby, both of whom are presumably cleared to know the government's deepest secrets, to discuss a C.I.A. officer or her link to a critic of the administration," the Times explains. "But any effort by Mr. Libby to steer investigators away from his conversation with Mr. Cheney could be considered . . . an illegal effort to impede the inquiry."

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:00 AM

Escape From New York

*

Richard Clarke is interviewed on NPR today. Regarding his new novel Scorpions Gate.

*

U2Fish...♥

Posted by: ♥BOT at October 25, 2005 11:00 AM

US State Department 'charm offensive' hits bumps

But Bush team continues to reach out to win 'hearts and minds' abroad.

By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com

A State Department 'charm' offensive in the Muslim world has been "fraught with missteps and mixed messages," according to government officials and Middle East experts. The Boston Globe reports that the latest blow to the campaign happened last week when Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice told a US Senate panel that terrorism "has its roots in this very malignant water that is the Middle East." Many US allies in the region were outraged at Ms. Rice's remark.

Several other recent events – such the airing of footage shot by an Australian news team of US soldiers burning the bodies of Taliban fighters in Afghanistan – have set back a $680 million campaign that President Bush considers vitally important. Mr. Bush appointed his longtime friend and adviser Karen Hughes as undersecretary for public diplomacy to head the effort.

http://csmonitor.com/2005/1024/dailyUpdate.html

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:01 AM

Heredity..

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 10:58 AM

so like what? all your previous hereditary carrier lasted to age 100?

lol.

You can't even keep a delusin straight for 10 minutes.

anyway. Good luck. And remember try to get killed when in texas. It's a good time to die for fuckers like you.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:02 AM

anyway. Good luck. And remember try to get killed when in texas. It's a good time to die for fuckers like you.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:02 AM

=================================================

lol

I hear that a lot..

I can not imagine why..

But not to worry..

I will be right here with my Wanda for a long long time..

Ya gotta love that!!!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:06 AM

Looks to me like Bush's base is holding pretty steady. It's the left whackos that are upset.

Bush's approval among his Republican base continues to hold firm. It was 85% in the previous poll and 84% in the latest, steady support that's preventing him from falling lower.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 11:06 AM

yeperdoo sneezers, n all is forgiven :] it is very nice to see you. although the other day, oddly enough, there was a painted porcelian(sp?)cat head atop one of the newspaper boxes that carries my womanfriends columns, and I thought there was some wierd mail stealing voodoo going on. guess I was just being parannoyed. hows by yous?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:07 AM

I will be right here with my Wanda for a long long time..

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 11:06 AM

yeah. still writing your book I am sure.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:10 AM

Morning wado!!!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:10 AM

--steady support that's preventing him from falling lower---

well with his pops it was the stick up his ass, with this one i guess its just that old coke buddies die hard. and love tax breaks.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:11 AM

Everyone's late for work today...

Richard Clarke's novel looks ahead 5 years from now...the Saudi gov't is not the same as now and they're anti-us...

He also mentioned that the US has pretty much accomplished everything that Iran wanted in Iraq...

Have a lovely day....

Posted by: ♥... at October 25, 2005 11:12 AM

yeah. still writing your book I am sure.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:10 AM

Morning wado!!!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:10 AM

================================================

I think Sam grabbed hold of the book idea...

I hope I am still in it!!!

=================================================

Good Mornin..

It looks like another Happy Doggie Day!

Did ya hear about Galloway?

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:12 AM

What about galloway?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:13 AM

Looks to me like Bush's base is holding pretty steady. It's the left whackos that are upset.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 11:06 AM

lol. yeah sure. down 1-2 % each month and you call that holding steady. But I sure hope your party believes that sort of bullshit.

hey.. Come January, you'll be talking about how 28% is a great mandate. and the economy is groind jsut great. there is no recession. read my lips... Iraq is turning the corners. bla bla bla...

it's all getting a little predictable isn't it?

PS. how is that indictment prep. going? that alone will cost you 2-5% in poll my dear. Think Katrina, but longer lasting.

ta ta.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:14 AM

//And remember try to get killed when in texas. It's a good time to die for fuckers like you.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:02 AM
//

jeebus! deth to thoes hoo opose us?

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 11:15 AM

Exception Sought in Detainee Abuse Ban

October 25, 2005

By ERIC SCHMITT
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 - Stepping up a confrontation with the Senate over the handling of detainees, the White House is insisting that the Central Intelligence Agency be exempted from a proposed ban on abusive treatment of suspected Qaeda militants and other terrorists.

The Senate defied a presidential veto threat nearly three weeks ago and approved, 90 to 9, an amendment to a $440 billion military spending bill that would ban the use of "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment" of any detainee held by the United States government. This could bar some techniques that the C.I.A. has used in some interrogations overseas.

But in a 45-minute meeting last Thursday, Vice President Dick Cheney and the C.I.A. director, Porter J. Goss, urged Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican who wrote the amendment, to support an exemption for the agency, arguing that the president needed maximum flexibility in dealing with the global war on terrorism, said two government officials who were briefed on the meeting. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the discussions.

Mr. McCain rejected the proposed exemption, which stated that the measure "shall not apply with respect to clandestine counterterrorism operations conducted abroad, with respect to terrorists who are not citizens of the United States, that are carried out by an element of the United States government other than the Department of Defense and are consistent with the Constitution and laws of the United States and treaties to which the United States is a party, if the president determines that such operations are vital to the protection of the United States or its citizens from terrorist attack."

Spokesmen for Mr. McCain, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Goss all declined to comment on the matter Monday, citing the confidentiality of the talks.

http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news5/nyt10.htm

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:15 AM


Galloway is on Saddam's Payroll...

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US Senate 'finds Iraq oil cash in Galloway's wife's bank account'

From James Bone in New York and David Charter in Washington



GEORGE GALLOWAY faces possible criminal charges after a US Senate investigation tracked $150,000 (£85,000) in Iraqi oil money to his wife’s bank account in Jordan.
The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations will refer the Respect Party MP for possible prosecution after concluding that he gave “false and misleading” testimony at his appearance before the panel in May.



The sub-committee claimed that, through intermediaries, Mr Galloway and the Mariam Appeal were granted eight allocations of Iraqi crude oil totalling 23 million barrels from 1999 to 2003.

It will also forward the new information to British authorities, saying it raised questions about Mr Galloway’s financial disclosure and the payment of illegal kickbacks to Iraq. “We have what we would call the smoking gun,” said Senator Norm Coleman, the sub-committee’s Republican chairman.

The sub-committee’s report, released today, was provoked by Mr Galloway’s clash with the senators — which he turned into a book entitled Mr Galloway goes to Washington. In that encounter, the anti-war MP vehemently denied receiving oil allocations from Iraq.

But the report provides bank account details tracking payments from an oil company through a Jordanian middleman to Mr Galloway’s nowestranged wife, Amineh Abu- Zayyad, and his Mariam Appeal fund.

“Galloway was anything but straight with the Congress. He was anything but straight with the American people. There was a lot of bombast. There was a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing,” Senator Coleman said. “We take very seriously the importance of testifying honestly before this committee . . .” he said. “We will forward matters relating to Galloway’s false and misleading statements to the proper authorities here and in Great Britain.”


Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:15 AM

--But I sure hope your party believes that sort of bullshit.--

cmon wanda.
you know they don't believe in anything.
cept 33 1/3 & the "american dream"

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:16 AM

Hopelessly hopefilled here, too :)

______________________________

I will be right here with my Wanda for a long long time..

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 11:06 AM

yeah. still writing your book I am sure.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:10 AM

Sounds like a sequel to Venus in Furs

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 11:17 AM

Posted by: limbo blogger at October 25, 2005 11:19 AM

Bush & Cheney were anything but straight with the Congress. They anything but straight with the American people. There was a lot of bombast. There was a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing,” Senator Coleman said. “We take very seriously the importance of testifying honestly before this committee . . .” he said. “We will forward matters relating to Rove's false and misleading statements to the proper authorities here and in Great Britain.”

Posted by: War Dog at October 25, 2005 11:15 AM

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:19 AM

C'mon , now

That's your doggy day?

Metinks your "doggy day" has been reduced

to a reach-around.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:19 AM

ta ta.

Posted by: wanda at October 25, 2005 11:14 AM

Did you read this part too?

Stephen Hess, Brookings Institution presidential scholar, says Bush's decline is by no means permanent.

ta ta, baby (:-)

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 11:20 AM

the "american dream"

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:16 AM

=================================================

That would make a good Nic..!

I think I use it after we win the War on Terror...

"The American Dream"

I like it..!!!

But I must go for now..

You know how it is..

The American Dream requires a great deal of money..

Pray for Rove..

Send Hillary some money..

And try your best everyday..

Good Bless America..

And the "The American Dream"

Have fun...

Ha ha ha...

Wado.............................................

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:20 AM

yes.

good bless america.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:21 AM

It seems Fitzgerald is dragging his feet about bringing indictments forth. Is he grasping at straws? If he has the goods why hasn't he delivered them already? Could it be there will be no indictments?

I question things, but I sure am not privy to insider trading.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 11:27 AM

Go with God, Rosa.

Morning everyone.

The Top Nine Plamegate Lies

In this rhetorical environment characterized by limited information and boundless speculation, those defending the officials at the center of Fitzgerald's probe have advanced numerous falsehoods and distortions. As Media Matters for America documents below, the media have not only failed to challenge many of these claims, but also repeated them.

Falsehood: It is legally significant whether the leakers disclosed Plame's name in their conversations with reporters

Falsehood: Wilson said that Cheney sent him to Niger

Falsehood: Plame suggested Wilson for the trip to Niger

Falsehood: Wilson was not qualified to investigate the Niger claims

Falsehood: Plame's CIA employment was widely known

Falsehood: Fitzgerald must prove that Plame's covert status was leaked

Falsehood: Fitzgerald's investigation was originally limited to possible violation of 1982 law

Falsehood: Leak investigation is the result of partisan motivations

Falsehood: Leaks go on all the time in Washington

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:31 AM

I take it that this 'wado' fellow is kinda a

fag...eh?

Posted by: pucker at October 25, 2005 11:31 AM

OMG,I'm shocked,what will we tell the children?


Virginia oil firm admits kickbacks to Iraq

Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:48 PM ET

By Jeanne King
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A Virginia oil trading company pleaded guilty on Thursday to charges of scheming to pay more than $400,000 in kickbacks to Iraq for oil purchases made as part of the defunct U.N. oil-for-food program for Iraq.

Midway Trading, a Reston, Virginia-based firm, agreed to pay a $250,000 fine in a plea deal, according to the Manhattan district attorney's office.

The kickback scheme also involved one of its trading partners, Bulf Oil, the office said. But it provided no details on Bulf Oil.

The case grew out of an investigation into the scandal-ridden $64 billion oil-for-food program launched by District Attorney Robert Morgenthau's office this year.

Also investigating corruption in the program, which was shut down in 2003 after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, are the federal U.S. Attorney's office in the Southern District of New York, several congressional committees and a U.N.-appointed commission led by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-20T164844Z_01_DIT060473_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-UN-OIL.xml

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:32 AM

http://www.jerichosecho.com/

my friend liz made a documentary about punk rock in Israel if anyone wants to check it out.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:33 AM

1,999

U.S. blows $1 million on 7 lemon cars in Iraq

WASHINGTON - When the Pentagon went shopping for seven armored cars for senior Iraqi policemen, U.S. officials turned to an Iraqi supplier to provide them some hardened Mercedes-Benzes.
After spending nearly $1 million, here's what they got: six vehicles with bad armor and run-down mechanics. They also were a little more than slightly used: The newest model was a 1996; the oldest, a 1994.

According to the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, the seventh auto is missing.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 11:34 AM

thisn becumin purdy rooteen:


Threat Prompts Closure of Calif. AirportsBomb

Threats Prompt Closures of Airports in Long Beach, Orange County; Some Flights Canceled


The Associated Press

LONG BEACH, Calif. Oct 25, 2005 — Airports in Long Beach and Orange County were shut down early Tuesday because of bomb threats, officials said.

Bomb threats were made by telephone, according to Long Beach airport spokeswoman Sharon Diggs-Jackson and federal Transportation Security Administration spokesman Nico Melendez.

At Long Beach, all early flights were canceled, said police Nancy Pratt. Police were searching the airport with bomb-sniffing dogs.

Officials cautioned that even after the airport was reopened there would be long delays because screeners would have to check a large volume of passengers.

John Wayne Airport in Orange County reopened and resumed normal operations, Melendez said.

Both airports are located within 50 miles of Los Angeles.

link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 11:35 AM

nice counterpoint bart.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:36 AM

I take it that this 'wado' fellow is kinda a

fag...eh?

Posted by: pucker at October 25, 2005 11:31 AM

---------

Manifest.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:39 AM

Hey Muckie!

What did you think of "the Controllers"?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:41 AM

sownz as plawsable as aneething else. wishen we culd get inside chaineys hed. ima shure he knoes wats goin on even ifn his boss dont.

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 11:43 AM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/25/112625/83

Resident Canada geeks (not to mention Canadians!) will know that this remains the key irritant between the two countires. In 2001, flouting NAFTA, the US imposed an 18% tarrif on Canadian softwood lumber coming into the US. To date, 3.5 billion dollars has been collected. The US trade ambassador said that the tarrifs would continue until Canada imposed its own taxation on Canadian producers. Canada refused.

Instead, the Canadian government went to NAFTA for a ruling. NAFTA ruled that the tarrifs should be removed and the money returned to Canadian producers. The US responded by refusing, and Sen. Max Baucus proposed legislation that would distribute the stolen money to US lumber producers. Canada then went to the WTO which ruled - yep, you guessed it - in Canada's favour. The US responded by appealing NAFTA's decision. The NAFTA panel again decided in Canada's favour. The US response has been to ignore the ruling, and Canada has now threatened to take the US to court in its own country.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 11:44 AM

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:36 AM

well you know I'm all about Family Values,and

much like Sam,I have to worry about what to tell

the children, oh there going to be so

disappointed =*(*****

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:45 AM

Indonesians challenge US envoy in lively exchange

Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:40 AM ET

By Tomi Soetjipto
JAKARTA (Reuters) - U.S. goodwill envoy Karen Hughes got a earful from a group of mostly female Indonesian Muslim students on Friday, who expressed anger at the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and attacked Washington's foreign policies.

Tasked by U.S. President George W. Bush to polish America's image overseas, the undersecretary of state for public diplomacy is in Jakarta to meet leading Muslim clerics and students during a tour of the world's most populous Muslim nation.

"Why does America always act as if they were the police of the world?," Barikatul Hikmah, a 20-year-old student at the Syarif Hidayatullah University asked Hughes.

Lailatul Qadar, a petite 19-year-old student wearing colorful headscarves, added: "It's Bush in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and maybe it's going to be in Indonesia, I don't know. Who's the terrorist? Bush or us?"

The U.S. embassy organized the session with some 15 students at the university, a moderate Islamic center of learning that has received U.S. funding and which produces some of the country's most influential Muslim thinkers.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-21T073952Z_01_MOR125931_RTRUKOC_0_US-INDONESIA-USA.xml

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:47 AM

i just wish the kids could have gotten the oil they so desperately need.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:48 AM

nav intel:

in the doggyhouse yet again.

Posted by: jus' laughing at October 25, 2005 11:50 AM

Seriously, libs....need an answer-


Why if ALL THE POLLS show that a "super-majority" of Americans "want us out now" from Iraq....


are smart Dem politicians like Hillary, Biden and Schumer....STILL not calling for it, OR regretting their vote (Schumer Sunday on MTP), OR ignoring Cindy Sheehan and being called "like Rush Limbaugh" (Hillary)?!?!??!?!

Seriously....are those Dems "ignorant" of these polls you cite....or politically SUICIDAL!?!?!!?

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 11:52 AM

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 11:52 AM

Texans involved with Saddam? the HORROR! what

will I tell the children?

US charges 3 people, 3 firms in Iraq oil program

Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:44 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors have charged a Texas oil tycoon and two Swiss executives and their companies in connection with secret kickbacks in the U.N. oil-for-food program, the U.S. Attorney's office said on Friday.

Texas tycoon Oscar Wyatt, former Coastal Corp. chairman, was charged along with two Swiss business executives, Catalina del Socorro Miguel Fuentes, alias Cathy Miguel, and Mohammed Saidji, prosecutors said in a statement.

Three companies were also charged, including the Cyprus-based oil trading companies Nafta Petroleum Company Ltd. and Mednafta Trading Company Ltd, collectively known as the Wyatt Foreign Companies.

Those firms were operated by Miguel and Saidji in close consultation with Wyatt, the statement said.

Also charged was Sarenco, a Swiss consulting firm operated by Miguel and Saidji, prosecutors said in the statement.

"Wyatt, Miguel and Saidji obtained oil under the United Nations' oil-for-food program by paying millions of dollars in secret kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq. These kickbacks were allegedly paid to the government of Iraq for oil allocated by the Saddam Hussein regime to the Wyatt Foreign Companies and the Costal Corporation," prosecutors said.

Wyatt sold Coastal Corp. to natural gas pipeline company El Paso Corp. in 2001. El Paso last year disclosed that those operations, since renamed El Paso CGP Co., received an order from U.S. financial regulators demanding documents related to the United Nations' oil-for-food program.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-21T184426Z_01_ROB163051_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-UN.xml

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:52 AM

no dems here, just lefty loonies and vegan communists, & nobody is the only one who listens.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:54 AM

Gare!! (wado's slow witted younger brother)

How be you today?

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 11:55 AM

Chile President was on secret police hit list: paper

Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:00 PM ET

SANTIAGO, Chile (Reuters) - Chile's current president, Ricardo Lagos, was targeted for assassination by secret police during Augusto Pinochet's 17-year dictatorship but escaped when he was arrested by a different police force.

Lagos, an opponent of the dictatorship, was put on a hit list in 1986 when the regime cracked down on leftists after a failed attempt to assassinate Pinochet, according to a Diario Siete newspaper report on Friday that cited sealed court testimony by ex-secret agents.

The testimony came from two agents who are serving time after confessing to killing Jose Carrasco, a well-known opposition journalist who was assassinated September 8, 1986, one day after an armed group tried to kill Pinochet by ambushing his car.

Lagos told reporters that he knew that he had been on the hit list along with Carrasco.

The day that Carrasco was killed the government declared a state of emergency and police rounded up leftists, including Lagos, and held them in jail to prevent any popular uprising against the regime.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-21T200019Z_01_ROB163458_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-CHILE-LAGOS.xml

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:55 AM

muck if your still out there, what do you think about the possibility of a h.a.a.r.p. connection to all the crazy patterns that have been forming meteorogically?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:56 AM

2005-10-25 Parks, Sheehan, 2000 and Cheney

Wow, the past 24 hours mark a significant and pivotal point in American history. I?ll explain how all the topics listed above are woven into each other and the fabric of our country. Rosa Parks, who was credited with sparking the explosion of the civil rights movement in this country and a symbol of that movement, has died. Parks was a very ordinary woman with an ordinary job who simply refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white man. Why did she refuse? She was tired. The spark that ignites movements of change doesn?t have to come from the wealthy or famous, but almost always comes from these ordinary people who don?t even realize the impact of their actions. Today we have Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, who simply went to the presidents ?ranch? in Texas to ask why. Her actions have ignited the enthusiasm and drive that now burns within the anti-war movement. Sheehan has vowed that when the 2000th soldier is killed in Iraq, she will go to the Whitehouse, tie herself to the fence and remain there until the troops come home. Well, today is the day, and the 2000th soldier has died in a war that we were lied into. A small group of people manipulated and distorted intelligence to trick the public, congress and other countries into supporting their pet project ? WAR. Even worse, they attacked and smeared anyone who publicly opposed their plan, which is the basis of the Plame identity leak case that is now under investigation. So today we also learned that the origin of the leak can be traced all the way to vice president Dick Cheney. Imagine, the vice president involved in an act of treason, simply to protect a pet project. Is this the government I learned to have respect for in school? I think not! Today we all should honor Rosa Parks by taking a stand. Do it with Cindy Sheehan, do it with a local activist group, do it on your own, just find a way that you can take a stand to improve America and prevent the few from destroying and exploiting it from the many.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/10/25

Posted by: 103reasons at October 25, 2005 11:56 AM

what about the children? what about little baby

Seder?

US oil tycoon, 2 others charged in Iraq oil scandal

Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:14 PM ET

By Daniel Trotta
NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors have charged a Texas oil tycoon and two Swiss executives and their companies with paying secret kickbacks to Iraq in the U.N. oil-for-food program.

Tycoon Oscar Wyatt, the former Coastal Corp. chairman, was arrested in Houston, Texas, on Friday, prosecutors said, becoming one of the highest profile figures ensnared so far in the scandal. The two Swiss nationals are being sought for extradition.

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York charged Wyatt along with Catalina del Socorro Miguel Fuentes, alias Cathy Miguel, and Mohammed Saidji. All three face up to 62 years in prison and heavy fines if convicted.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-21T201444Z_01_ROB163051_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-UN.xml

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 11:57 AM

later bloggie

must inform the children of American about the

misdeeds of the Family Values crowd

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2005 12:01 PM

Seriously....are those Dems "ignorant" of these polls you cite....or politically SUICIDAL!?!?!!?

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 11:52 AM

Easy....They ain't dems. They're moderate

Republicans. duh!!!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:06 PM

doent reely knoew much abowt haarp. gotta do sum reedin. :(


ny giants owner jus died. also died today em voise of teh joly green giant.

coinsidense?

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:08 PM

Easy....They ain't dems. They're moderate

Republicans. duh!!!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:06 PM

But they'll play a major role in who the demo nominee is in 2008. You better suck up to 'em.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 12:08 PM

Read about haarp, muck.

It's your money honey!!

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:10 PM

The "criminalization of politics" is as close to the "You effed up. You trusted us" defense from 'Animal House' as they can get.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 12:12 PM

will do. set fore lunshtime reedin. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:12 PM

Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush

Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes

Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle

Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz

Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen

Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz

i never noticed that libby was a founding member of our most despised think tank.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:12 PM

I only "suck up" to really cute, smart girls!

The rest suck up to me.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:14 PM

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/


very grey area since u.n. outlawed weather modification in 1970

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:14 PM

jeebus. ya meen itn mite be reel this tyme?:


Bomb components found at San Diego airport


Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:07 PM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Baggage screeners found bomb components in a carry-on piece of luggage at San Diego International Airport on Tuesday and cleared the area to investigate, Department of Homeland Security spokesmen said.

A department spokesman said the screeners found "all components of an IED" (improvised explosive device) in a piece of luggage at around 7:45 a.m. (10:45 a.m. EDT)

They then evacuated the commuter terminal of the airport and bomb specialists began to investigate, the spokesman said.

Transportation Security Administration spokesman Nico Melendez said an employee noticed a "suspicious item" in a piece of luggage as it was going through the X-ray machine.

Officials at the airport were not immediately available for comment.

The Homeland Security spokesman said officials were investigating to see if there was any link between the discovery in San Diego and bomb threats at two Los Angeles-area airports.

Searches at the Long Beach airport and a separate threat at nearby Orange County's John Wayne airport were resolved with no bombs found.

Melendez said he was unaware of any other incidents at other California airports.

wolf link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:16 PM

!!!!!!!VIVA LA PATROLL!!!!!!
ahem, ummm... hello nice lady.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:17 PM

Hey, MJP....fine and you? Have a nice "United Nations Day" yesterday?

Just looking for why the Democrat LEADERS in the Senate...like Schumer (below)...aren't "influenced" by those "polls showing the American people are with Cindy"???


-------------Transcript-"Meet The Press" Sun Oct 23

TIM RUSSERT: .....Based on what you now know today, do you regret having voted for the war?

SEN. SCHUMER: Well, no, Tim, because my vote was seen and I still see it as a need to say we must fight a strong and active war on terror.


Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 12:19 PM

AAR alert

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/25/121910/39

An emerging theme in the Bush war room is arguing that his top political aide, Karl Rove, simply got tripped up on his recollections of whom he talked to and what he told them when questioned about the outing of CIA spy Valerie Plame. He shouldn't be indicted simply because of contradictory grand jury testimony, a source said.

Bush allies have already begun casting perjury and obstruction charges as irrelevant in a probe created to find out who leaked classified information.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 12:20 PM

Yeah.......

Gare?

You are fligning wads of paper at an inferno.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:23 PM

wunder ifn it sum kinda butt plug

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:25 PM

!!!!!!!VIVA LA PATROLL!!!!!! ahem, ummm... hello nice lady.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:17 PM

Hey crusher!! How's the nuts in the vice squad?

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 12:29 PM

Patrick Fitzgerald's "Dear Diary..."

October 25, 2005

Satire by Bernard Weiner, The Crisis Papers

Dear Diary:

This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Of course, I'd heard about the incompetence of this White House crew - and the arrogance that made them so sloppy in covering their tracks - but despite their lies and amateurish attempts to conceal their involvement, their fingerprints are all over the place.

Rove as the Genius, the Architect, the Ringmaster, running a tight ship with no leaks? These dangerous clowns are total screw-ups. And wimps. Many are willing to finger each other big time to escape the felony counts, or at least lessen their criminal liability. It's embarrassing to watch them flopping around, sending out their lawyers to drop a dime on a fellow conspirator.

Posted by: Cathy in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:30 PM

Hey crusher!! How's the nuts in the vice squad?

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 12:29 PM

-------

I believe (through friends) that they are

of the pre-crushed variety.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:32 PM

errr, ah... Al?

Fitzy States In Fitzy Daze?

Damn, I have sunk into a deep well of cornified comical hackery lately.

Just a wee idea 'cause o' that ESPN problem.

Posted by: 15 Cent Screw [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:33 PM


I'm in a very serious mood today. Not grim or unhappy, though.

I'll be thinking about Rosa Parks a lot, of course. It wasn't only a few moments on a bus. She spent her entire life working for justice. Very few of us will have a moment in our lives that will be etched in history as a symbol of who we were and what we worked hardest to achieve. That's a lucky thing for some folks whose most enduring monument will probably be a landfill of non-biodegradable crap.

Rosa Parks, even if she had never been in the news, was a hero. I am fortunate because I know other heroes like her. They keep working at justice, even when it isn't apparent to them that progress is being made, even when no one is noticing them. I love the folks who give me good reason to be hopelessly hope-filled.

Perseverence furthers.

* * *

"Whatever you do may seem insignificant to you, but it is most important that you do it."

~~~Mohandas Gandhi


* * *

The battle for truth, justice and the American way is never-ending.


We need more Clark Kents...


* * *

It's been a pleasure to read my friends here today! It usually is but that shouldn't go without saying...

Hope you folks have a good day. Gosh, it's good to see you again Ja!

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 12:33 PM

sumtimes its good to be amish:


S.C. man dies driving to brother's funeral

FLORENCE, S.C. -- Crystal Chockley thought something was wrong when her brother-in-law didn't show up for her husband's funeral. Hours after burying Perry Harrell, she found out why. Larry Harrell died in a car wreck on his way to the funeral Saturday.

"My knees just buckled and I said, 'God help me,'" Chockley said. "I just couldn't believe God would take two brothers back to back like that."

Larry Harrell, 44, took his 32-year-old brother's death in a four-wheeler accident last Wednesday hard, Chockley said.

Sherry Harrell wondered why Larry Harrell wasn't at their brother's funeral but hoped he had been just too devastated to come.



They passed by a wreck heading home, but Sherry Harrell said she thought nothing of it until she got the call from the hospital, saying she had lost her second brother in less than a week.

Larry Harrell, whose brother died on his birthday, will be buried Thursday on the birthday of another sister, Sherry Harrell said.

"It's hard to believe they're gone, but we look at it like they're both in heaven now, fishing with our daddy," she said.

link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:34 PM

bibiStar, I just totally copied your signature idea.

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:34 PM

que bueno in blo.
i might do some adjunct com. professor stuff for that kooky rockwell hall gang this summer, would be neat. kinda far off tho.

hows by you whacker? hopin you are excellente.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:36 PM

bye cat chew. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:37 PM

Gosh, it's good to see you again Ja!

Posted by: Cat Chew at October 25, 2005 12:33 PM

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Did you actually say "gosh"?

I'm gonna kiss ya right now! ;)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:38 PM

arreverderci sneezy,

hope shall persevere.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:39 PM

This should come in handy for DeLay...

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DeLay wins shredder at Texas auction, is lampooned
RAW STORY


Indicted Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) bid on a wicker basket two weekends ago at the Needville Harvest Festival in Fort Bend County in his home state. And he won not just the basket, but the gadget inside it, too — a paper shredder, Roll Call's Mary Anne Akers reports Tuesday. Excerpts.

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The shredder purchase would have perhaps remained a secret if DeLay’s potential 2006 Democratic opponent, Nick Lampson, hadn’t gleefully spilled the beans at a fundraiser last week. A national political reporter was also on hand at the festival to witness the basket/shredder bid. (So stay tuned for more details, including how much the Hammer paid for the shredder.)

A former House Member who was victimized by the redistricting engineered by DeLay, Lampson is having a ball telling the story of DeLay’s rather ironic purchase.

“Nobody needs a paper shredder more than Tom DeLay,” Lampson’s campaign manager, Mike Malaise, told HOH. “This was a very practical purchase, and we’re sure the paper shredder will see a lot of use in the DeLay camp.”

He said Houston may just see its second straight white Christmas “when it starts snowing TRMPAC documents this year.”

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:39 PM

okay. now ima seen it all! em end timez must be heer!:


Klan To Rally In Support Of Gay Marriage Amendment


POSTED: 10:45 am CDT October 25, 2005
UPDATED: 10:58 am CDT October 25, 2005


AUSTIN, Texas -- The Ku Klux Klan plans to rally in Austin to support the gay marriage amendment set for the Nov. 8 ballot.


The rally planned on the steps of city hall the Saturday before the election will urge voters to favor proposition 2.

However, some who support proposition 2 don't welcome the KKK's assistance.

One such person is Pastor Ryan Rush of Bannockburn Baptist Church.

Rush said that a group that would come in that is characterized as hateful and bigoted is not welcome in this city. He said he doesn't want the Klan as a partner on any cause.

In a letter the Klan sent to the city, the group acknowledged that security will be an issue, noting the violence that erupted at a KKK rally and march to the capitol in Austin in 1983.

link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:41 PM

I believe (through friends) that they are

of the pre-crushed variety.

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:32 PM

Trust but verify!

I was in Vegas a coupla weeks ago for a family wedding, what a giant ashtray...but a fun one! Nicotine achievers all.

The adjunct thing'll keep you off the street.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 12:42 PM

Morning/Afternoon bloggers

No news yet, but when I was driving my grandson to school today, 3:00 PM kept dancing around in my little pea brain. That would be 4 PM EDT, 2 PM Mountain and 1 PM Pacific.

Just a feeling.

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:42 PM

Why would the KKK back Gay marriage?

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:46 PM

its either that or the pan-american expo reenactment squad. times is tuff.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:46 PM

Just a feeling.

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:42 PM

---------

Trying to scare me?

Now, its gonna be another shot of nyquill ;)

Posted by: MJP at October 25, 2005 12:48 PM

You better suck up to 'em.

...

It should be the other way around, don't you think?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 12:50 PM

no singen 9 yeer olds feecherd. link has nazi noodie pic. nsfw:


Hong Kong Nazi Porn Fails to Offend


HONG KONG — Popular Hong Kong men’s magazine Akasi pulled out all the stops for its October issue this year, capitulating to a bizarre new fascination many Hong Kong residents have developed for Nazi Germany.
In what some local fashion magazines have dubbed the new “Nazi chic,” swastikas and German uniforms have been popping up all over Hong Kong lately, prompting Akasi to publish a multi-page spread of a sexy model seig-heiling her way to sexual freedom and romping in the grass with a plastic version of wartime general Heinz Guderian, Hitler’s army chief of staff.

And aside from a few scant mentions in independent online publications, nobody seems to care.

According to Thingfish, who first wrote about the Nazi spread for NetNewsAsia.com, many Hong Kongers admire the Nazi ethic.

“Their tanks were made by Mercedes and Porsche; their uniforms were original Hugo Boss,” said Thingfish. “Twenty years after the last British skinhead tired of the joke, it’s still not unusual to see a Hong Kong teen in an ‘Adolph Hitler European Tour t-shirt.’”

Which explains why visitors to Hong Kong can sing karaoke in a bar wallpapered with photos of Germans executing prisoners, buy a new dress in a fashion store with swastikas hanging from its ceiling or watch TV on a station that likens its commercial advertising to “the final solution.”

If that’s not enough, wake up to a morning coffee and a daily Hitler quote from a local coffee shop.

So while Akasi readers enjoy the lead article in Akasi’s October issue, which details the life and work of General Guderian, they can also peruse multiple photos of the model posed in front of a large swastika, holding a Nazi action figure in front of her breasts and popping up all over a Nazi tank.

Whether Akasi was aiming to offend with the October issue is unclear, as representatives at the Calvin Group, which publishes Akasi, wouldn’t comment to XBiz.

“It could be that the strip is simply too silly to horrify anyone,” said Thingfish. “Anyone who can pose a topless babe alongside a

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:51 PM

From Raw Story...Just Headlines...Developing!!

SOURCES: FITZGERALD DECIDES TO
SEEK INDICTMENTS: DEVELOPING...

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:51 PM

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:42 PM

---------------

You mean Fitzy Claus?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:52 PM

MAybe the KKK are trying to discredit gays? That's the only thing I can think of.

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:54 PM

its either that or the pan-american expo reenactment squad. times is tuff.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 12:46 PM

Their craft table BLOWS...all rice, beans and Miller beer.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 12:56 PM

Merry Fitzmas!

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:56 PM

culdnt say c-sea. :/

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:58 PM

Fitzgerald has decided to seek indictments, those near inquiry say
Jason Leopold and John Byrne


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Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has decided to seek indictments in the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson and has submitted at least one to the grand jury, those close to the investigation tell RAW STORY.

Fitzgerald will seek at least two indictments, the sources say. They note that it remains to be seen whether the grand jury will approve the charges.

Those familiar with the case state that Fitzgerald likely will not seek indictments that assert officials leaked Plame's name illegally. Rather, they say that he will focus charges in the arena of lying to investigators.

Any possible indictments are now in the hands of the grand jury. They are expected to be made public later this week.

RAW STORY has not learned who Fitzgerald is seeking to charge. Reports indicate that of those fingered in the case, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, is in the most jeopardy. President Bush's Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove, also appears to have given conflicting testimony to the grand jury.

Fitzgerald may also charge those who leaked Plame Wilson's name to reporters. Rove and Libby have not been identified as the sources in Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 column which first identified Plame as a covert agent and the husband of Joseph Wilson, a critic of the Administration's Iraq intelligence. Novak cited "senior administration officials" as his sources for the report.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 12:59 PM

Perp-walkin around the Fitzmas tree

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 12:59 PM

Oh damn... Looks like 2000 might come today.

Sobering.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:02 PM

Muck, I googled KKK and gay marriage, and 9 out of 10 hits were about Reverend Gregory Daniels, a black minister from Chicago, who said if the KKK were against gay marriage, he and his congregation would march with the KKK.

Now the KKK comes out in favor of gay marriage. Do you suppose it's just a way of making sure they don't have to march in a parade with Rev Daniels?

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 1:02 PM

Perp-walkin around the Fitzmas tree

Posted by: Meg at October 25, 2005 12:59 PM

...at the GRAND OLD PARTY hop...

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 1:03 PM

wuld be fun to wach fred phelps groop an em kkk klash. :)

breend plentee of popcorn

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:03 PM

2000 already came, Meg

;-(

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 1:03 PM

HADLEY NAMED. La Repubblica has a dynamite series this week on the origin of the yellowcake forgeries. Laura Rozen reports:
With Patrick Fitzgerald widely expected to announce indictments in the CIA leaks investigation, questions are again being raised about the murky matter that first led to the appointment of the special counsel: namely, how the Bush White House came into possession of discredited Italian intelligence reports claiming that Iraq sought uranium "yellowcake" from Niger.
The key documents supposedly proving the Iraqi attempt turned out to be crude forgeries on official stationery stolen from the African nation's Rome embassy. Among the most tantalizing aspects of the debate over the Iraq War is the origin of those fake documents and the role of the Italian intelligence services in disseminating them.

In an explosive series of articles appearing this week in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, investigative reporters Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe d'Avanzo reveal how Niccolo Pollari, chief of Italy's military intelligence service, known as SISMI, brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:03 PM


MAybe the KKK are trying to discredit gays? That's the only thing I can think of.


Posted by: ? in Seattle at October 25, 2005 12:54 PM

--------------

Allowing for open gay marriage will make them easier to pick out and target

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:04 PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The war in Iraq saw two milestones Tuesday that reflect the country's path to democracy and its human toll as officials said the referendum on a draft constitution passed and the U.S. military's death toll reached 2,000

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 1:04 PM

guesn mebbe they hate blaks more eh c-sea?

thisn woman heer is alwayz a hoot an holler:

Man arrested after tussle with Tonya Harding

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

VANCOUVER, Wash. -- A 27-year-old man has been charged with assault after a tussle with figure skater-turned-boxer Tonya Harding.

Christopher Nolan told deputies she threw him to the gravel and bit his finger when he said she had had too much to drink. Nolan pleaded not guilty Monday in Clark County District Court and was released on his own recognizance.

Harding told deputies the scrap was in the kitchen of the house they shared, not the driveway and that it was a cat, not she, who scratched Nolan's finger.

more...

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:05 PM

jeebus! kinda harsh doent ya theenk?

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 10:55 AM

little bit - come'on W...maybe some compassion from time-to-time?

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 1:05 PM

well,
out of the closet white supremists are kind of a minority in america.

the other kind join the p.n.a.c.

zing!

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:06 PM

2000 already came, Meg

;-(

Posted by: ☯ in Seattle at October 25, 2005 01:03 PM

actally mentioned in cnn.com...but not BIG enuf.

...and this is NOT gloating, it's disgust.

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 1:07 PM

well, out of the closet white supremists are kind of a minority in america...

lettin' it hang under the sheet!

Posted by: bibimimi~☆ at October 25, 2005 1:09 PM

wunder ifn they gonna sport stylin pink sheets

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:09 PM

Ahem... clarification here. The KKK is rallying FOR Proposition 2 - which BANS gay marriage, and possibly more....

Critics: Prop 2 threatens even traditional marriage

Our similar state constitutional amendment passed last Nov. has now 'backfired' in a similar way ... nullifies all common law situations, all domestic partner benefits, etc. Straight people finally get how wrong it was now that it affects their living situation. HAHA!

Already groups are working to 'amend the amendment' to allow straight only DPB's, etc.

What a parody!

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:09 PM

Bushies take aim at probe


BY KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - President Bush's damage-control handlers are plotting a sophisticated war room offensive to fight back against possible indictments in the CIA leak probe.
Trying to change the subject yesterday, Bush announced a new Federal Reserve chairman and convened his cabinet to signal business as usual at his beleaguered White House.

Behind the scenes, however, Team Bush was finalizing its campaign to discredit and undermine special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's conclusions, sources told the Daily News.

The White House strategy is counting on major help from GOP allies and neocon commentators who turned on Bush for naming Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court and are now looking for redemption with a miffed President.

An emerging theme in the Bush war room is arguing that his top political aide, Karl Rove, simply got tripped up on his recollections of whom he talked to and what he told them when questioned about the outing of CIA spy Valerie Plame. He shouldn't be indicted simply because of contradictory grand jury testimony, a source said.

Bush allies have already begun casting perjury and obstruction charges as irrelevant in a probe created to find out who leaked classified information.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:10 PM

VIDEO SKIT: Al Franken kicks 'conservative reader' in groin, smashes stool over his back, and grins as another man cracks bottle over the conservative's head...

http://wm.amazon.usa.speedera.net/wm.amazon.usa/books/AMAZON_V6_crop_100k.wmv

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Here is one to save for later..

The server is full now..

It will around forever...

Even when Ol' Al wants to run for public office..

Ha ha ha..

What a guy..

This is why I Love the Loony Left...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:13 PM

ah. thanx fore clarifyin gbc. wuz bowt reddy to get me rapcher clothes on.

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:14 PM

White House Sidesteps Cheney Questions

minutes ago


WASHINGTON - The White House on Tuesday sidestepped questions about whether Vice President Dick Cheney passed on to his top aide the identity of a CIA officer central to a federal grand jury probe.

Notes in the hands of a federal prosecutor suggest that Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, first heard of the CIA officer from Cheney himself, The New York Times reported in Tuesday's editions.

A federal prosecutor is investigating whether the officer's identity was improperly disclosed.

The Times said notes of a previously undisclosed June 12, 2003, conversation between Libby and Cheney appear to differ from Libby's grand jury testimony that he first heard of Valerie Plame from journalists.

"This is a question relating to an ongoing investigation and we're not having any further comment on the investigation while it's ongoing," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:14 PM

yep we're fuckin funny tubers.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:15 PM

muck if your still out there, what do you think about the possibility of a h.a.a.r.p. connection to all the crazy patterns that have been forming meteorogically?

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 11:56 AM

I'm not done reading up-blog (so commented early)...but Ima big fan of George Noory (and Art, of course) - interestin' stuff. I can only say that my "nightstand" radio cackles more than it use to ;)

Quit messin' with the ionosphere...biooatches!!!

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 1:16 PM

From Eaw Story!
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Grim toll: 1,999 U.S. dead in Iraq
CNN retracts story saying 2,000 dead; Majority believe war was wrong.


Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:17 PM

saw that last wek wedo. aint got muchn say bowt it. :/

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:17 PM

See, I think Fitzgerald is working WITH the evil neo-cons.....


go after Libby.....then get Cheney to resign....then Bush appoints Condi as Veep....then Fitz goes after the Moron Cowboy....then he resigns....then Condi is Prez and stomps Hillary or ANY other Dem in 2008!


(There...that ought to have the lib blogs going nutty for a while .....as if they needed help!)

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 1:19 PM

Senate panel accuses British lawmaker

Galloway denies receiving money from Iraqi oil sales

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- A Senate report presented evidence Monday that it says links illegal oil money from deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime to the political campaign of a British lawmaker and to the accounts of his Jordanian wife.

The report accused British Member of Parliament George Galloway of lying under oath about the payments.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:20 PM

update:

Breaking News Alert: Materials Found At Lindbergh Field Are For Toys

Last Updated:
10-25-05 at 9:29AM

The commuter terminal at Lindbergh Field has been re-opened Tuesday morning, after baggage screeners found what they thought were bomb-making materials in a piece of carry on luggage.

The commuter terminal was shut down and evacuated around 7:45 a.m. Tuesday, after the discovery. But authorities say what were thought to be bomb components were actually components to make toys.

The terminal is now open and flights will continue on schedule.

Watch News 8 at Noon for the latest on this story.

link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:20 PM

But wouldn't it be funny if the KKK for some inexplicable reason did come out pro gay marriage?

Boy that would confuse the neocons, wouldn't it? Not that confusing them is hard. Kind of like hypnotizing a chicken.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:20 PM

The Dems are so counting on an early FITZMAS..!!

I hope the don't a socking full of coal..

That would be Loony!!

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FITZMAS

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Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:21 PM

doent reely knoew much abowt haarp. gotta do sum reedin. :(

ny giants owner jus died. also died today em voise of teh joly green giant.

coinsidense?

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 12:08 PM

em Tiki Barber on Fox & Friends this morning sayin' that the Denver game on Sun was probably his last (not Tiki - the owner). Tiki was right :(

Sorry 'bout the interject - Ima big fan of Tiki...oh, and his brother Ronde

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 1:22 PM

i hypnotize my chicken daily.

or wait.... throttle?...

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:23 PM

I mentioned yesterday that the Italian daily La Repubblica ran a story reporting alleged new details about the origins of the Niger/uranium forgeries. Today they followed up with a second part of their report which, if accurate in its particulars, could rock the foundations of official Washington.

-- Joshua Micah Marshall

Stephen Hadley, present National Security Advisor (Condi's old job... Hadley was her Deputy at the time), set up the forged Nigerian Letter... maybe. That's coming out in an article in Italian daily 'La Repubblica' today.

In any case... Fitz has all this stuff... and the Italians must know that. Thus, beyond a BIG deal about the Bush Administration having something to do with the forgery... this might also mean that tomorrow is Fitzmas.

Raw Story has it that the grand jury has all Fitz's requests for indictments... and there are indictments.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 1:31 PM

~~~ 1,999 U.S. dead in Iraq CNN retracts story saying 2,000 dead; Majority believe war was wrong. ~~~

You broke War Dog's heart!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 1:33 PM

wouldn't it be funny if the KKK for some inexplicable reason did come out pro gay marriage?

Boy that would confuse the neocons, wouldn't it? Not that confusing them is hard. Kind of like hypnotizing a chicken.

Posted by: Meg at October 25, 2005 01:20 PM

It probably really would - specially since Robert Byrd is the pack leader...

They'd be thinking: "Am I at the the right convention center?"

"I thought Trent Lott was suppose to bring us to order...wtf"

Posted by: -tk at October 25, 2005 1:33 PM

Senate panel accuses British lawmaker

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 25, 2005 01:20 PM


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Maybe they just really liked the spanking he gave them before.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:34 PM

mishen akomplished! we can breeng em boyz home now! itn miller time!:


Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And Buried: Multan Newspaper


A Pakistani newspaper Ausaf published from Multan has reported that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden died four months ago in a village near Kandahar of severe illness.

According to the newspaper report, Bin Laden was campaigning at Bamiyan, fell very ill, returned to Kandahar where he died and was buried in the Shada graveyard in the shadow of a mountain.

The controversy continues to surround Osama bin Laden and while US and Pakistan officials have often been quoted by the media as saying that his mortal status was just a matter of detail, the hunt is still on and the issue remains a topic of great interest for the media and governments alike.

Funeral prayers have been said for Osama bin Laden over these years with one reported now by the Ausaf, and another in an Egyptian newspaper Al Wafd as far back as December 2001.

Osama bin Laden has a reward of $25 million on his head. Despite this he remains elusive, and could remain that way for a long time, alive or dead.

leenk

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:35 PM

No guarantee hat the grand jury will vote to indict, of course... unless they are presented with at least one or two ham sandwitches.

What is it about grand juries having to have ham sandwitches? I mean... all over the country... its fucking ham sandwitches! You'd think that in some places it would be steak sandwitches. What's wrong with good old peanut butter and jelly? Everybody likes those!

Admit it!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 1:42 PM

The Top Nine Plamegate Lies

By Josh Kalven, Media Matters for America. Posted October 25, 2005.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:42 PM

Halliburton sees profit hurt by storms

By Matt Daily
1 hour, 1 minute ago


HOUSTON (Reuters) - Oilfield services group Halliburton Co. (NYSE:HAL - news) expects damage from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita to trim its Energy Services Group income by 4 cents a share in the fourth quarter, Chief Operating Officer Andy Lane said on Tuesday.

The news helped push Halliburton shares down as much as 5 percent, erasing the gains made on Monday ahead of the company's better-than-expected third quarter earnings.

"Looking forward to the fourth quarter of 2005, we expect a similar financial impact as seen in the third quarter, primarily due to lower operational activity and the number of offshore rigs that are out of service," Lane told a conference call.

I think I'm going to cry...Haha, no way

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:45 PM

Peanut butter and jelly -- toast sandwitch?

Gimme a fuckin break here!

If I was a prosecutor... I'd go with those!

You could fucking indict Mother Theresa with a platter of them!

You could indict fucking Bob Hope!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 1:47 PM

Oh boy. Franken's gonna cry in the next segment. What do you bet?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:48 PM

just tell the jury to chew em, specially if its crucnchy peanut butter.

wouldn't want em to choke.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:49 PM

Crips gang's co-founder faces Dec. 13 execution

Los Angeles -- A judge signed a death warrant Monday for Stanley "Tookie" Williams, a co-founder of the notorious Crips gang who was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his children's books.
Williams is scheduled to die Dec. 13 at San Quentin prison. The judge rejected requests by his attorneys to delay the execution until Dec. 22 to give them more time to seek clemency from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The Dec. 13 date means attorneys have only until Nov. 8 to submit a clemency request. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to consider Williams' case this month.
Williams was sentenced to death in 1981 for fatally shooting a convenience store worker in 1979. He also was convicted of killing two motel owners and their daughter during a robbery that same year.


Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:53 PM

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 1:54 PM

Maybe they just really liked the spanking he gave them before.

~-~-

I was thinking the very same thing, Meg.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:54 PM

i'm sorry sir, the supreme court simply does not have time to yank its thumb from its nethers.

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:55 PM

Welcome to Mt. Scandalmore!!

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:55 PM

eya gang!

pretty good crew here this AM!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 1:56 PM

fred phelps in em nyoos agayne:


Lawmaker wants to make protests at military funerals a felony

Oct 25, 2005, 09:34 AM CST

INDIANAPOLIS -- An Indiana state senator wants to make disorderly conduct a felony if it occurs at military funerals, similar to a proposal being considered in Oklahoma.

Indiana state Senator Brent Steele says he'll propose legislation in response to an anti-gay group's protest at the August 28th funeral for Army Staff Sergeant Jeremy Doyle, who died in Iraq.

Members of the Topeka, Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church dragged U-S flags on the ground and shouted insults at Doyle's family outside a mortuary in Martinsville, Indina. Church Reverend Fred Phelps contends American soldiers are being killed in Iraq as vengeance from God for protecting a country that harbors gays.

The church is made up mostly of Phelps' children, grandchildren and in-laws.

The group has also shown up at funerals in Oklahoma and state Representative Paul Wesselhoft says he'll offer a bill to prohibit any form of protest within 500 feet of any funeral at a home, mortuary, cemetery, church or other place of worship.

link

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 1:56 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 1:59 PM

TX-22: DeLay looking anemic back home; Midday open thread
by kos
Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 10:40:12 AM PDT
42 Percent of the Texas 22nd Congressional District think Tom DeLay should resign (including 27 percent of Republicans). Of course, DeLay isn't going to do that anytime soon, so the voters can forcefully resign him in November 2006. DeLay is at 45/51 approve/disapprove. The partisan breakdown of this SUSA poll is 51 Rep, 20 Dem, and 27 Ind.

http://www.dailykos.com/

Can't leave out ole Tom, can we!?!

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 1:59 PM

owdy oody shadowshine!

Posted by: ecrasez l'infame at October 25, 2005 1:59 PM

Reminder: 3rd Hour on Franken

AAR's very own Sam Seder. He's the co-host, with Janeane Garofalo, of the Majority Report. He and Brian Lentz join us in the studio to discuss Fighting Dems, the Majority Report's new series profiling Iraq vets running for Congress as Democrats. Brian Lentz is an Iraq veteran, and former prosecutor, who is challenging Republican congressman Curt Weldon in Pennsylvania's 7th district.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:59 PM

eya gang!

pretty good crew here this AM!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 01:56 PM

Solitude Billie HolidayThe Complete Decca Recordings 03:10

http://www.jcu.edu/harlem/Performers/Billie_Holiday/Solitude.mp3


"Greatest Hits [CBS Special Products] - Solitude" Duke Ellington 03:26

http://jazz-on-line.com/ram/VIC065605.ram

Billie Holiday "Body and Soul" - Blue Billie 02:57

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at October 25, 2005 2:01 PM

Anybody hear from MAT RE her kitty?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 2:01 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 2:02 PM

hiya jimmy. :)

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 2:02 PM

Bush Nominee for Refugee Issues Draws Heat

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 47 minutes ago


WASHINGTON - Democratic senators Tuesday questioned whether President Bush's nominee to lead the State Department refugee program is qualified for the job.

Bush has nominated Ellen Sauerbrey, who twice lost bids for Maryland governor, to be assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration. If confirmed, she would manage a nearly $1 billion budget for refugee crises overseas.

"I don't think we see the requisite experience that we've seen in other nominees" for the job, said Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., at Sauerbrey's confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

In the wake of ousted disaster relief chief Michael Brown, Democrats especially have complained that some of Bush's nominations carry the whiff of cronyism because they lack experience in the jobs for which they are nominated. Brown resigned after the government failed to act quickly to the disaster wrought on the Gulf Coast by Hurricane Katrina.

Despite the criticism, Sauerbrey is expected to win Senate confirmation.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 2:03 PM

Ooody Dooody 2 u JaMan!

eya NC, caught that last nite, gooduns!

Billy and Duke Jazz Royalty eh?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 2:05 PM

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 01:56 PM

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(According to He Who Must Not Be Named) Those looney anti-war lefties!

Oh. Wait a minute.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 2:06 PM

eya Mucker!

Haarp station, chem trails.

most secretive US goverment ever...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 2:06 PM

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at October 25, 2005 2:06 PM

Hi Jim. Great crew here today. A few missing though.

I saw JIK and Patrioterer here last night.

Boy, that 3 PM still swirling in my brain. Something's going to happen! Don't know what but the feeling is strong.

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 2:09 PM

Jim do you know if MAT's kitty is ok?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 2:11 PM

eya ToniD

some coffee in the garden?

http://static.userland.com/images/craigospage/Azeleas.jpg

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 2:11 PM

~~~ Boy, that 3 PM still swirling in my brain. Something's going to happen! Don't know what but the feeling is strong. ~~~

Which time zone?

Could be Fitzmas!

Fitz is done and the grand jury has the ball!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 2:12 PM

they jus got outed. not thatn therz nuthin rong with that:

GAY PUBLICATION 'OUTS' ANCHORS


Tuesday, October 25 2005
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The gay-oriented Houston Voice has "outed" CNN's Anderson Cooper and Fox News Channel's Shepard Smith, charging that they "choose to hide and deceive -- and to protect their incomes and images -- at the expense of contributing important weight and star power to the gay civil rights movement." Managing Editor Kevin Naff claims in an editorial appearing in the current edition of the Voice that Smith once tried to pick him up in a gay piano bar in New York City and that Cooper dodged a question about his sexual orientation in a recent New York magazine interview by saying, ""The whole thing about being a reporter is that you're supposed to be an observer and to be able to adapt with any group you're in ... and I don't want to do anything that threatens that." Commented Naff: "Does he believe that female and African-American reporters lack credibility to cover stories since their minority status is showing?"


link


Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2005 2:14 PM

Have'nt heard from MAT yet, hope so tho!

Ya T i noticed em popping up here.

3 PM? we pretty "sensitive"

we'll see...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2005 2:15 PM

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/102505/whitehouse.html

"On July 14, 2003, conservative columnist Robert Novak identified Plame as a CIA operative. Her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, had traveled to Niger to investigate whether Iraq was trying to buy uranium. When he returned, Wilson criticized the White House�s justification for war in Iraq. Novak wrote that two administration officials told him that Wilson�s wife had helped arrange the trip.

Last year, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), then angling to become chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, took aim at Wilson and advised his colleagues to wait for a Supreme Court appointment to overshadow the investigation.

King continued to heap criticism on Wilson yesterday, telling The Hill that Wilson is a fraud and that the government �had a right to make known that his wife sent him on the trip.�"

�It�s very logical to set the record straight,� he said, adding that political consequences would depend on the nature of the indictment, but if an official is indicted he �probably� should resign.


Yeah right Kingpin, Joe Wilson is a fraud...if that is the case why should anyone have to resign?...This logic is twisted.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at October 25, 2005 2:16 PM

War Dog....


If Norm Coleman's office is smart....they're TAPING every show of Franken's. As Al manuevers between the "DLC/Sane Democrat" wing and the "Move On/Sheehan/Insane" wing, he'll leave a "paper trail" on the radio, that will practically write the Coleman campaign ads!

That and a few choice tidbits from the "Gloria Wise" case shut nail the coffin lid shut on any "Senator Franken" Campaign!

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 2:16 PM

~~~ Boy, that 3 PM still swirling in my brain. Something's going to happen! Don't know what but the feeling is strong. ~~~

Which time zone?

Could be Fitzmas!


Fish,
I'm in CDT so you take it from there. I'm thinking 3PM my time.


Coffee sounds great, Azeleas beautiful. Thanks Jim

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 2:17 PM

3 PM Eastern. Toni?

45 minutes from now?

3 PM Washington DC time?

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 2:18 PM

Chalabi expected to meet US officials in Washington
Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi leader accused of giving the Bush administration flawed information about Saddam Hussein's weapons program, will visit Washington in November amid speculation that U.S. officials view him as an acceptable candidate for Iraqi prime minister.

Chalabi, who is now Iraq's deputy prime minister, is expected to meet with Treasury Secretary John Snow next month to discuss the progress of economic reconstruction, a Treasury spokesman said on Sunday.

A date for the meeting has not yet been announced.

A State Department spokesman said Chalabi could also meet with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. No meeting has been announced.

The November visit was first reported by Time magazine, which said in its October 31 edition that Chalabi is due to meet with national security adviser Stephen Hadley.

Time quoted unnamed administration officials as saying Rice and Hadley both view Chalabi as "a plausible and acceptable" candidate for prime minister in the next round of Iraqi elections due December 15.

The longtime Iraqi exile began attracting U.S. attention as a potential prime minister after Washington decided Iraq's current premier, Ibrahim Jaafari, had discredited himself by seeking overly friendly relations with Iran, Time said, quoting unnamed administration officials.

Wonder, will Judy be there?

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 2:19 PM

CDT... okay... that's ummmmm... 4pm Eastern... 4pm Fitz-Time.

Still could be!

Indict and make happy hour!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 25, 2005 2:20 PM

Posted by: Gare at October 25, 2005 02:16 PM

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Yeah! That should trump Coleman's stealing money from Iraq! Tape those shows!

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 2:23 PM

3 PM Eastern. Toni?

No, 3 PM Central time, or 4 PM Eastern, or 2 PM your time.

Chalabi supposed to meet with Hadley and Rice. Maybe hadley will be indicted by that time.
They think Chalabi a good choice for PM. He's a thief!! He's a liar!! Oh, I forgot, Like minds and water seeks it's own level.

Posted by: toniD at October 25, 2005 2:23 PM

Patrioterer here last night.

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DAMN! I missed it!

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Sidenote: EVERYONE knows Anderson Cooper is gay. I mean, look at his shoes, fer chris'sakes!

I kid. Hell, I don't know. I don't care either.

Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 2:24 PM

Wasn't there a story on Drudgery about how Franken "said Rove and Libby will be executed"?

Idiot took it as a serious story.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 2:25 PM