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should I go do something today or not?...

prolly not...

might go burn some steel that would be fun...

but then again I proly won't...

A friend of mine was talking about investing in some land in china...I wonder if he was hinting...

land is land...each piece of dirt presents it's own special challenges...

Sunshine, water and dirt what else could a man want save for air to breath?

They've privatized half of those so far...

land is land...each piece of dirt presents it's own special challenges...

Sunshine, water and dirt what else could a man want save for air to breath?

They've privatized half of those so far...

they've privatized half of those so far...

maybe it would be a good time to invest in some air to breath...

Remember 9/11 and all who died.

9/11 was not about politics but Americans who died!!

WTC surveillance tapes feared missing

Surveillance tapes and maintenance logs are among the missing evidence as investigators try to figure out why the World Trade Center collapsed, federal officials said Monday.

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Bush also served.

The lost records probably contain vital information that could help answer questions, Sunder said. Investigators are trying to locate copies of many destroyed documents from the building's owners and city agencies

Dan Baumbach - WTC 1 Survivor

Dan Baumbach, 24, a software engineer from Merrick, was stunned to find that building officials in One World Trade Center were telling workers not to evacuate even after the first jet struck.

Stanley Praimnath - WTC 2 Survivor

'If they had continued on and exited the building, all of their lives would have been spared. As it was, that's not the way it happened.

"As soon as we reached the concourse level, the security guard stopped us and said, 'Where are you going?'

Stanley explained about seeing the fire in Tower One. According to Stanley, the guard said, "Oh, that was just an accident. Two World Trade is secured. Go back to your office."'

Notice now Politics rule tragedy.

Giuliani comment broadcast on 9/11:

“I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

So who told him it was going to collapse when no other building of this type has ever collapsed before or since?

You libs always try to bend Americans deat for political reasons LOL. Im supprirised not seeing Sheehan brigade at world trade center tribute LOL!!

Will Sheehan protest war in Afganistan LOL!

Remember 9/11 alot of people do notice the ratings on Air America LOL!!

Remember 9/11 when I seen a Democrat with a flag on car LOL!!

Edmund McNally phoned his wife Liz twice following the [WTC 2] aircraft impact. Mr McNally said in his second phone call "Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me.''

Tom Elliott, WTC 2 survivor: They saw only two firemen going up. ,a hrf="http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0917/p1s1-usgn.html">They told them there had been an explosion near the 60th floor.

Kim White, WTC 1 survivor: We got down as far as the 74th floor ... Then there was another explosion, so we left again by the stairwell.

Louie Cacchioli, a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem: "On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building."

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"Shortly after 9 o'clock ... [Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit - the first crash that took place - he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.

One of the secondary devices he thinks that took place after the initial impact he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device - he thinks, he speculates - was probably planted in the building. ... But the bottom line is that he, Albert Turi, said that he probably lost a great many men in those secondary explosions, and he said that there were literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people in those towers when the explosions took place."

President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

The request was made at a private meeting with congressional leaders Tuesday morning. Sources said Bush initiated the conversation.

He asked that only the House and Senate intelligence committees look into the potential breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist attacks to occur, rather than a broader inquiry that some lawmakers have proposed, the sources said [CNN 1/29/2002]

By Presidential order the investigation into 9-11 was only allowed to look at "Intelligence failures".

President Bush's visit to Booker Elementary was public knowledge on September 10, 2001

The was an airport 4 miles away.

There was no way of knowing that the president was not a target.

The secret service did nothing while he sat in that class room reading my pet goat.

Not even a single flinch.

How could they have known that he was not a target?

If they had known that he was a possible target why was he allowed to sit still and endanger himself and all of those children?

Which raises an interesting point. Katrina was known to be headed into New Orleans a few days in advance, and the potential damage was known and understood years ahead of time. Yet this "unexpected" event threw the US Government into total confusion.

In contrast, the aftermath of 9-11 seemed quite well coordinated, which strongly suggests that 9-11 was not "unexpected" at all, especially when one considers that all the various players, including FEMA, were already in position for a "terror drill" the day before it happened

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"Project Achilles" Finds 9/11 Cellphone Calls 'Impossible'

Reports of cellphone calls from terrified passengers and crew members were a crucial element of the 'official version' of the events of '9/11', as they corroborated claims that all four planes were hijacked by Arab terrorists. If, as experiments indicate, the cellphone calls were not possible, the entire 'official version' of events is open to question.

The Complete 9/11 Timeline

1. Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?

2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial airlines, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?

3. Why did FEMA lie about their presence in New York on 9/11?

4. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?

5. Why did George H.W. Bush meet bin Laden's brother on 9/11?

6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters?

7. Where are the flight recorders?

8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?

9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?

10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9/11 cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?

11. How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly?

12. How did they find the terrorist's cars at the airports so quickly?

13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force?

14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93?

15. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?

16. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?

17. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?

18. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington?

19. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001?

20. Who made the decision to have John O'Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?

21. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center?

22. Did John O'Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?

23. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11?

24. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appear on the passenger lists?

25. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?

33. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1) an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport?

34. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board?

35. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag?

36. Why did Atta place a video "how to fly planes", a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide?

37. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car?

38. When did Atta train on a flight simulator?

39. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return?

40. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit?

41. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

25. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?

26. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?

27. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives?

28. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them?

29. How did a hijackers passport miraculously appear near the WTC? Who found it and what time?

30. How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?

31. Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights?

32. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers?

41. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

42. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ?

43. Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols?

44. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?

45. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston?

46. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th?

47. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from?

48. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack?

49. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released?

50. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN?

51. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems?

52. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation?

53. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive?

54. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?

55. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train? Who gave the tip to arrest them?

56. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?

57. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9/11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months, but not mentioned in the American media?

58. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi, who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots?

59. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export-Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organisation in Lugano?

60. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel?

61. Who hired Zacarias Massoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States?

62. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001?

63. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents, paid $1,000/ month?

64. Where are these agents? Was Johnny "Mike" Spann one? Was John Walker Lindh one?

65. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI? Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden?

66. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Qaeda group to any member of the Senate?

67. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video?

68. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December ?

69. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers?

70. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?

71. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?

72. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?

73. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?

74. Why according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?

75. Why was the video released?

76. Who gave the final decision to release it?

77. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack, available on the Internet?

78. What about Bin Laden's statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole, which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video?

79. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001, that he was not involved in the WTC?

80. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI?

81. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build ToraBora with the CIA?

82. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001?

83. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who is not the mother of Bin Laden, had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9, rather than Alia Ghanem, his mother? Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack?

100. What happened on September 18th, when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day? Was he arrested?

101. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001?

102. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a public health consumer advocate and author of "Death in the Air" on October 1, 2001, almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton?

103.What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections?

104. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research?

105. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq, Richard Spertzel, who told ABC, "...he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine, highly developed spore material"?

106. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax?

107. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens, Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen?

108. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States?

109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?

110. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22, 300 miles away? Was there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him? Why did the media write different versions about how, when and where he was found? Why did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident?

111. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997?

112.Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998?

113.When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines?

114. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7, 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam?

115. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998?

116. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine?

117. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U.S.?

118. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines?

119. Was the death of Vladimir Pasechnik investigated? He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001?

120. How are the deaths of scientists Robert M. Schwartz, Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month? Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen?

121. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld (FEMA-Wife)?

122. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000?

123. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes?

124. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton?

125. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores?

126. What about the list of 15-20 labs (maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig) who used Fort Detrick spores?

127. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick?

128. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force?

129. Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?

130. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?

131. Did Walter Gilbert, Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA?

Just a few questions...

skip a few and ask a few more...

150. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad, former head of the ISI quit his position?

151. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down?

152. Who in the ISI paid $100.000 to Mohammad Atta?

153. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in the WTC attack? Which Secret Service was he referring to? Did other ISI official's believe that? Did officials of the CIA believe that? Did some officials of the Mossad believe that?

154. What was the purpose of Ahmad's visit to Washington on 9/11?

155. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000?

156. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions, as reported in the Russian press?

1. What did Kissinger mean that an "outside threat from beyond", a "world government" and "individual rights" who are "willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted", that he mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference?

2. What was his role at UNOCAL?

3. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001?

4. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001?

5. Why does he write in "Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century" that America doesn't need a Foreign Policy?

6. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan, Robert Oakley?

1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software?

2. What is the purpose of PROMIS?

3. Did A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?

4. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?

5. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?

6. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?

7. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?

8. What about the 2,500 UA-contracts which were "split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously." on August 10, 2001?

9. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?

10. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?

11. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard?

12. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase 4,516 put options on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options on September 10?

13. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-asssignment on September 15th?

1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government?

2. What was the purpose of these meetings?

3. Did the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan?

4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001: "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs"?

5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative?

6. Did Abdul Haq, the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban, decide in Winter 2000 to attack the Taliban?

7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001?

1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotely control unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours?

2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001?

3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology?

4. Is Northrup in contact with any engineers of Boeing?

5. Did Northrup install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane?

1. Did two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11?

2. Did 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation 'Bright Star' on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?

1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in ToraBora?

2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada?

3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in ToraBora?

4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks?

5. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics? Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11?

6. When did the US decide to use B61-11, the "nuclear version" of its "conventional" BLU-113 counterpart?

7. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks?

Are we having fun yet?

1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999?

2. Who was responsible for that operation?

3. Why was the operation put on hold?

4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999?

5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost every move Clinton made against terrorism? They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation.

1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris?

2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan?

3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA?

4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator?

5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes?

6. What size are his shoes?

7. Who build or prepared his shoes?

good Mornin gang!

happy B'day wil and wils mom!

virgo a wonderful sign, the water bearer.

virgo is the virgin...aquarius is the water bearer

1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA?

2. Did he ever work for the CIA?

3. Who arrested him in 2001?

4. Why didn't he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif?

5. Who hired his lawyer, Richard Brohanan? Who paid his lawyer?

6. Why didn't he go to Guantanamo Bay?

!....

snortbutt!

almost half way done with my questions...how you doin jimmy?

1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton?

2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock?

3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton?

4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002?

5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned?

6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon?

7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th?

8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day?

9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11?

10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9:30 AM about a possible threat?

11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9:30 AM?

12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9:45 AM?

13. What was the purpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants?

14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON?

1. What was the role of Colin Powell?

2. Who decided to give $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001?

3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001?

4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the Taliban prisoners as War Prisoners? Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants?

5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11?

6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day?

7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17, 2002 as Newsweek reported?

8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India's foreign minister on April 6, 2001?

9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a $64 million debt on an Indian plant project?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 11:28 AM

You know whats wierd?

This page sort of reminds me of Nobody having a -B moment, except it's -B in a particularly lucid and cohesively cogent moment.

Posted by: Dream Logic at September 11, 2005 11:33 AM

sorry about the length of my list of questions...it's just that these fuckers lie so god damned much

1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group?

2. What was the purpose of that meeting?

1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON?

2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions?

3. Does he still own ENRON stocks?

We should remember the questions...those that died deserve that justice be done...those that lost people deserve that justice be done...we should not be allowed to forget.

yupper yer right

remember vaguely her being pictured pouring water...

think maybe it's time for my braincell rebuild kit?

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1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon?

2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto, Canada?

3. Where did he get his information?

4. Whom did he give the envelope to?

5. Why was he placed in jail?

1.Was the saudi-binladen-group domain created on September 11th, 2000?

2. Who paid for that domain?

3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites?

4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family?

1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the U.S.?

2. What was the purpose of that meeting?

3. When did he resign from Carlyle Group?

4. Is he still in touch with any of their representatives?

purty good N

trying to get Bgurl up early on a sunday!

(chuckle, fat chance) she wants to go to swap meet

fer car parts. someone tried to steal her pony emblem off off her 68 stang

broke off the tail, scratched paint. (i glue em on)

1. Did Stephen Lander, Director of MI5, monitor a phone conversation between Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid in Dec. 2000?

2. What did Lander tell representatives of the CIA about Zacarias Moussaoui?

3. Why did he stop monitoring Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) in August 2001?

You can order repros jimmy...and to think...you're the one that actually needs the beauty sleep...

1. Did Bin Laden in July 2001 enter an American hospital in Dubai?

2. Did he arrive on July 4, 2001 on a flight from Qetta, Pakistan to American Hospital?

3. Was he at the hospital July 4-11, 2001?

4. Did Bernard Koval, CEO of American Hospital, ever speak with Doctor Terry Callaway about that visit?

5. Why did he change his statements about this story not being true and that he "asked around"?

6. What is the difference between Continuous Ambulatory Peritoneal Dialysis and Continuous Cycling Peritoneal Dialysis?

7. Did Koval know Larry Stevens?

8. Can Koval explain why Richard Labeviere, author of "Terror Dollars" (about illegal Al-Qaeda accounts), wrote the story about Osama Bin Laden's kidney operation?

now some questions about W...

1. What exactly happened on September 11 and at what time was President Bush informed?

2. Why was President Bush scheduled to visit a school in Florida?

3. Who scheduled the time of the visit?

4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC?

5. How could he have seen that on TV?

6. Why didn't he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash?

7. Did Bush ever wonder how Bin Laden was able to hear the first plane crash live on the radio?

8. Which radio station he was listening to?

9. Can Bush explain how Bin Laden's Home Video was found only two weeks after it was produced?

10. Why did Bush decide to release Bin Laden's Home Video?

11. What is the purpose of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC) in Fort Benning, Georgia, where terrorists have been trained for undercover agents in South America? Bush stated "if any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves". So what does he think about Fort Benning?

12. What is the role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in the National Security Council?

13. What is the current role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in Afghanistan?

14. When was Bush's last contact with anyone from ENRON?

15. Why was China admitted to the WTO on September 13 after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts?

16. Why did Bush postpone the release of Ronald Reagan's records?

17. How does Bush feel about the need to investigate the CIA's mistakes?

18. Does Bush agree with senators John McCain, Joseph I. Lieberman, Porter J. Goss, former C.I.A. clandestine case officer and a Florida Republican, Richard C. Shelby and Ron Paul, US Congressman, who want an investigation and have said "Secret government is winning out over open government"?

19. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors?

20. Why did Bush say that he and Card initially thought it was an accident involving a small plane?

21. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved?

22. Why didn't they know at this point, as did the FAA and NORAD, that aircraft were hijacked? The Batallion Chief in the 9/11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit.

23. How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business?

oh yeah...that Tony Blair fellow...

hee hee! concept of beauty sleep applied to me personally would require, probably, a 33 hour day...

1. Were 25,000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part of Operation 'Essential Harvest' pre-positioned in Oman, the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan before September 11, 2001?

2. When did he begin to place SIS-Special Forces in Afghanistan? Why?

3. What were they harvesting in operation "Essential Harvest"?

High Gang! I notice thais morning that the official death toll in N.O. still is set at 154. I thinks it's been at 154 for three days, now.

Whatever the count ends up being, I won't trust
it. Mrs. Sky and I have both lost any ability we
had to maintain faith the gevernment will tell us the truth.

Actually, I lost all faith in the U.S. government
when JFK was offed, but Mrs. Sky still tries to
cling to some hope. It must be a woman thing.

Nobody....great work on the pertinent questions.
Once you have seen the video of the Twin Towers
collapse you can see how it was rigged.

It's easier to have faith...asking the questions is an admission of doubt...doubt is insecurity...insecurity is fear...people don't like to feel fear...

but then there are those that have to know the truth now matter...

Whn the bear charges some people close their eyes and others open them wider.

1. Did Gloria Irish own unit 1504 at the Delray Racquet Club, 755 Dotterel?

2. Did she rent that property to Hamza Alghamdi in August 2001?

3. Why did the media not report about a connection of the Sun-Sentinel and the hijackers?

4. Why did it first appear that the hijackers had something to do with the anthrax attacks?

5. Why has this connection or coincidence never appeared in the media again?

6. What was the connection between husband Michael Irish (SunSentinel) and Bob Stevens (who died from Anthrax)?

yupper

they dropped those towers on alla those people

just to make it a proper "Pearl Harbor".

PNAC came up with that idea.

can u imagine how angry

survivors are that

figured that out?

1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction?

2. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department and the Taliban ambassador Mollah Abdul Salam Zaeef in Islamabad in August 2001?

3. Why did she oversee the delivery of Stinger missiles in the 80s to Afghan mujaheddin?

4. Did Walid Arkeh in Seminole County jail inform the FBI in August 2001 about an attack on America? What was the reaction of the FBI?

5. Why did Dr. Jeffrey Starr, U.S. department of defense, visit Tajikistan in Jan 2001?

6. When did Jean-Claude Cousseran, Director DGSE , French Secret Service inform the CIA about terrorist attacks on America? What was their reaction?

7. What does he know about the monitoring of Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) and Kamel Daoudi? Did he ever inform the CIA about that? And when?

8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president "with the use of an airplane"? What was their reaction?

9. When did President Mubarak, Egypt, inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an "airplane stuffed with explosives"? What was their reaction?

10. When did Efraim Halevy , Director of Mossad since 1998 (unconfirmed) inform the CIA about a possible attack with "200 terrorists" on America? What was their reaction?

Sept 24th would be a good time for everyone from 911 to show up in washington too...

Bring food...bring water

bring as many friends as you can...

11. Is it true he warned Ariel Sharon not to travel to New York on September 11 to speak at a festival?

12. Did a caller to Loxley Banks, Director Radio Cayman Islands talk show, give several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S on Sept. 3 -10?

13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd? If this is true, who was it?

14. Did the FBI investigate the two men who met Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in Manhattan on September 8, 2001?

15. Who does Abdullah Abdullah (Northern Alliance) believe killed Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud on September 9, 2001?

16. When and why did he decide to attack Kabul on September 11 at 5:30 PM?

17. When did he decide to invade Masar-i-Scharif

18. Did the CIA helped him provoke a tumult?

19. Did he ever meet John Walker Lindh?

20. Why was Major John Kenny, Commander Wright Patterson Air Base, Dayton placed on high alert on September 10? Did he inform companies in Dayton to shutdown their offices?

21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrick , Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison, Monterey on high alert on September 10?

22. Why did one of Kenneth (Ken) Weinbrecht (President SAMS ) executives say on September 10, that he was a 'Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'"

23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere, French anti-terrorism, inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack? If so, what was their reaction?

24. Why did Atta and hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari check into a Portland, Maine motel (unidentified) on September 10?

25. Why was the Portland, Airport, according to eye-witnesses, in full charge of more military officials and soldiers than usual, weeks before September 11, 2001?

26. Why, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, was Mayor Brown warned to be "cautious in your travel" the night of September 10? Who warned him?

27. Why did Alex Diamandis, Odigo Vice President of Sales and Marketing, receive a warning on his messenger service about a possible attack on America on September 11, 2001? At which time?

28. When did Dr.August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?" What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

1. Why did Kenneth Waldie, Stanley Hall, Herbert Homer and Peter Gay of Raytheon travel on Sept. 11?

2. Can Global Hawk technology be used for at least 27 hours?

3. Is Global Hawk technology used in commercial airplanes?

4. Did Danielle O'Brien, air traffic controller, inform another air traffic control center about a plane traveling fast southwest of Dulles after spotting it 8:18 AM on September 11?

5. Who was informed and what happened?

Pay special attention to question 5 here...

1. Why didn't Dr. James G. Roche, Secretary of the Air Force try to reach the airplanes in NYC (7 minutes time for McGuire AFB in New Jersey ) and at the Pentagon (10 minutes time)?

2. Did Roche ever try to shutdown the plane in Pennsylvania?

3. Can Roche explain why magazines of that plane were found 20 miles away from the crash? Andrews AFB is 13 miles away. He had one hour and fifteen minutes to respond to the plane that hit the Pentagon. What happened during that time?

4. Can he explain why many ear and eye witnesses, including workers of the road construction company New Enterprise saw or heard F-16 jets?

5. Why did President Bush say only one week later that he tried to shutdown that plane?

6. Who gave that decision?

I notice the right wing shit disturbers who come
here have started typing LOL quite frequently at
the end of their posts. I find this significant
but I haven't figured it out yet.

All these LOL's strike me as curious....sorta
nervous....whistling past the graveyard kind of
LOL's.

Notice Sith101 earlier BOS?...Notice he got shut down?

1. Why did George Bush leave Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flew to an Air Force base in Nebraska on 1:48 PM on September 11 and returned to Washington at 4:30 PM?

2. What exactly did Donald Rumsfeld do that day before he arrived at the Pentagon around 3:55 PM?

3. How did Rumsfeld know at 5:30 PM on September 11 that the plane in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets: Camp David, the White House or the U.S. Capitol building?

4. Can he explain why early media reports told us that no squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets have been at Andrews and later changed their reports that they haven't been on high alert only?

5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way?

6. What did the D.C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11?

7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9:40AM until 9:55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10:06am?

8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash?

9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16's have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM?

10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems?

11. What was the official reason that fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base, NJ did not intercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC? This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8:48 AM.

12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron (Andrews AFB) fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon? Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC.

13. Col. Ken McClellan, Air Force spokesman said on September 11, that Mohammad Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell/Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, and was seen by eye-witnesses? What was McClellan doing there? Why did he later deny the report?

14. Why did he decide not to shutdown ECHELON base Bad Aibling in Germany as planned for 2002?

15. What is the reason that none of any Air Force fighters reached the hijacked plane in time?

16. Many ear and eye witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away?

17. Why did Jack Kelly, idefense.com, inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash (8:48AM), that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible? And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9:03 PM?

18. Did Kelly serve with the U.S. government where he managed several significant programs for the information warfare and intelligence communities?

19. Did Joseph J. Esposito, Chief of NYPD try to contact the Pentagon at 9:06 AM on September 11? What was their reaction?

oops missed one...

20. Why didn't General Elwood "Pete" Quesada of the FAA inform President Bush between 8:15 and 9:05 about four simultaneously hijacked planes? Who did he inform and what was their reaction?

1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction?

2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC?

3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way?

4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7?

5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC?

6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC?

7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan, Director CDC prepare, as CNN reported, emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11:16 PM?

8. Was the gold recovered?

One other observation...

Typical of the posts by "freepers" (do you call them?) the "Right Wing-nuts," is an underlying contradictory message which demonstrates the inherent incongruity between the ostensible purpose for the post and the post itself.

Like this one:

"Remember 9/11 alot of people do notice the ratings on Air America LOL!!"

I'd say this example could be broke down into three parts:

(Remember 9/11) (alot of people do notice the ratings on Air America ) (LOL)

The inherent incongruity is most apparent between the first message and the last.

The poster is asking their reader to employ a unifying sense of sentimentality and patriotism by remembering "9/11" and yet closes with a bizarrely divisive and inappropriate jibe that suggests "laughing out loud" apparently "at" the "liberal" readers of this blog; which in itself "forgets" 9/11, it's victims, the two wars that stemmed from it, the sacrifice of our troops and their families, not to mention the many other tragedies that have occurred around the world, including the horror that is BushCo Inc's mismanagement of the disaster on America's Gulf Coast.

The central comment in this example is a politicized and agenda driven attempt to claim that Air America Radio is ineffectual. This claim is belied by the mere fact that the postser feels an attempt at derision is necessary.

The contradictory aspect lies in the inherently political nature of this comment, which is made while maintaining a transparently false posture of being "above" the political fray.

Rife with contradictions are these Neo-Cons and their dupes, no?

Yes.

well

they answered the question,

"what would it take to get people to let us do whatever we want?"

Matter of fact....because I'm an old fart, I write a lot of shit down during the day.

First thing I noticed over Labor Day...when I saw and talked to a lot of family...the repugs in our bunch, and there are only a few....mostly married in...have dumped Bush. Emphatically!

Then yesterday while I was out at the Hartville Flea Market, I noticed the cars of the workers out there that used to sport those W's in the back window, were no longer wearing them. I wrote that down with a chuckle!

Now I notice all these nervous right wing LOL's.

Bush is down to 38% approval. He's getting into
the really good, greasy Nixon numbers.

Something's up.

Sept. 24th!
window

1. When did Dr.August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?" What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

2. When did Tayseer Allouni , Kabul correspondent Al-Jazeera, receive his first video from Bin Laden? Can he explain why the first video on October 7 2001, the day of the retaliation, looked like it was recorded in the morning?

3. Did Tom Simmons (former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) decide or announce in a July 2001 meeting that an attack was planned on the Taliban in October 2001?

4. Why did Ms. Barbara Bodine, US ambassador to Yemen stop John O'Neill from investigating Al-Quaeda accounts in July 2001?

5. Did Niaz Niak, former Pakistani Foreign Secretary say in mid July 2001 that the USA planned military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban?

6. Did Hameed Gul, retired Pakistani general of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, say that a secret service was involved in the attack on America?

7. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force? Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?

8. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?

9. Why did Mayor Guilani sell WTC rubble to India for recycling and also China? Who made that decision?

10. What was the

10. What was the purpose of U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain's phone call on October 10, 2001 to the Pakistani oil minister? Why was she sure that a previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast for the purpose of selling oil and gas to China, was back on the table in view of recent geopolitical developments?

11. What exactly was found on Z. Moussaoui's computer after 9/11, when local agents were given a Federal Intelligence Security Act (FISA) warrant, which they had requested six weeks previously? This ties directly into the question of the administration's dealings with the Taliban, its reluctance to investigate Saudi nationals, etc.

12. Why the attack on Cynthia McKinney for asking: 1) why has there been no investigation of the 9-11 attack? and 2) did Bush/CIA/NSA know of it beforehand, and allow it to happen?

13. Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11?

14. Why did the US give 43 million dollars to Afghanistan back in May or June of 2001

15. Why did Bush toss the Hart-Rudman terror security study (developed over a 2 year period) and instead assign responsibility to Cheney and FEMA?

16. Why did Ashcroft stops flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001? Why did the FBI and Justice not identify the form, origin and time of the threat?

17. Why did Bush stay in Texas for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming?

18. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him, "Mr. pResident, the nation is under attack"?

19. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One?

Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at September 11, 2005 12:04 PM

Very good.

I'm so verbose.

I'd wish I'd have employed that kind of brevity in my analysis of the "LOL's."

Rife with contradictions are these Neo-Cons and their dupes, no?

Yes.

Posted by: Dream Logic at September 11, 2005 12:10 PM

Very good! Liked this! I looked at it and chuckled but you figured it out! Bis!

That was funny!

Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at September 11, 2005 12:14 PM

We're definitly on the same page today.

Posted by: Dream Logic at September 11, 2005 12:10 PM

nicely done...

Something's up.

Sept. 24th! window

Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at September 11, 2005 12:10 PM

yeap ;)

they answered the question,

"what would it take to get people to let us do whatever we want?"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 12:10 PM

They should've asked how long it would last...

20. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?

21. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights tell people on the ground that the highjackers had "box cutters"?

22. Where are the flight recorders?

23. How did they find a passport that just "happens" to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can't locate even ONE flight recorder?

24. Why no investigative reporting of the Pentagon scene? The photos do not show much, but then photographers were not allowed, initially, to photograph the scene, if I remember correctly.

25. Why was the series of recommendations Al Gore also put together in 1996 on airport security called by Republican congress "paranoid" and too harsh. Why did the airline industry, lobbying against it, consider it too expensive and impractical.

26. Why was the Hart-Rudman report on the potential dangers of terrorism in the homeland. The results of the research ignored by Bush?

27. Why were FISA warrants disallowed by Bush?

28. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10, 2001?

29. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001?

30. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on private jets the day after the 9/11?

31. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn't postmarked until September 18?

32. Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force? What would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911?

33. Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn? They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground. If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane.

34. Why did they not let the media or any reporters take video or photos of the crash site?

10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 12:06 PM

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Defense systems on a commercial airliner?

looks like blowwing off all those peeps in La.

is gonna have an effect all right. i still have a

few blind fools that support bush and crew. i keep tellin

them that W is just the convenient puppet

in this punch and judy show. we want

change we're gonna have to think

deeper than that eh? identify

the real movers and shakers.

Every once in awhile is see some mention of and reference to Robert Anton Wilson. Dada refers
to RAW once in awhile.

Wilson used to live and work down in Yellow Springs, Ohio, back in the 60's. I met him a few times but didn't know him or anything. He was a
friend of friends of mine.

I have been re-reading some if the Illuminatus
Trilogy lately. It is weird how the metaphors are
so spot on!

In his own weird way, RAW is looking more like a genius to me, every day!

With all of those questions why did Bush personally ask that the scope of the 911 hearing be limited and why do we have to accept that?

President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

The request was made at a private meeting with congressional leaders Tuesday morning. Sources said Bush initiated the conversation.

He asked that only the House and Senate intelligence committees look into the potential breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist attacks to occur, rather than a broader inquiry that some lawmakers have proposed, the sources said [CNN 1/29/2002]

By Presidential order the investigation into 9-11 was only allowed to look at "Intelligence failures".

They should've asked how long it would last...

they are unable to think that way.

this is real "Crisis Management"

management style. bandaid

belligerence, bullshit

bravado, guilty

gullability.

Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at September 11, 2005 12:15 PM

I do like to be funny, but I sincerely think "whistling past the graveyard" effectively expresses the same analysis as mine, except quite succinctly.

Brevity is the soul of lingerie. - Dorothy Parker

I'll wager Oscar Wilde wishes he'd said that.

Sheesh, I like big words.

Defense systems on a commercial airliner?

Posted by: Meg at September 11, 2005 12:19 PM

Didn't you know? Call them security systems and it might be easier to understand. They've been part of the design since the 70's

757s and 767 have also been equipped with remote flight termination controls for a decade now...To be used in case of terrorist take over they can override the controls from the ground and land the planes...The company that makes this system is owned by Dov Zakhiem...former comptroller for the pentagon with dual israeli/ U.S citizenship that misplaced 1.5 trillion in pentagon funds

"this is real "Crisis Management""

You have to start a business before you can hire a manager...

"good help is hard to find"

"good help is hard to find"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 12:28 PM

expecially when you need bad things done.

The Bush/Nixon similarities are getting stronger.

At the beginning of Nixon's collapse, I didn't
think there was a snowball in Hell's chance that we would end up being rid of him....and THEM.

Yet, it happened.

Bush has been allowed to get away with MUCH more
than Nixon ever tried. It says a lot about what
has happened to the U.S. to realize how much the
public will let a crooked politician get away with now.

It is mind numbing to read War Dog's "List Of Things Fascists Like To Brag About Getting Away With In America."

I picture Bush and the Gang in a back room of the W.H rolling around on the floor....laughing like MF's...with tears streaming down their
cheeks in hilarity from what they are allowed to do, and get away with.

Sad.

Lily Tomlin said it best.

"No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."

Lily Tomlin...now there's my kinda girl

Notice Sith101 earlier BOS?...Notice he got shut down?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 12:05 PM

------------

Sith is rather easy to shut down.

Winnable nuclear war doctrine...Nuclear first strike...Think I've been pulling your legs all this time?

Strategy Includes Preemptive Use Against Banned Weapons

The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use them to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction. The draft also includes the option of using nuclear arms to destroy known enemy stockpiles of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

The document, written by the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs staff but not yet finally approved by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, would update rules and procedures governing use of nuclear weapons to reflect a preemption strategy first announced by the Bush White House in December 2002. The strategy was outlined in more detail at the time in classified national security directives.

At a White House briefing that year, a spokesman said the United States would "respond with overwhelming force" to the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, its forces or allies, and said "all options" would be available to the president.

The first example for potential nuclear weapon use listed in the draft is against an enemy that is using "or intending to use WMD" against U.S. or allied, multinational military forces or civilian populations.

Nobody, ok you were talking about missles or something.

They probably learned how to disable the defense systems in flight school.

Sith is rather easy to shut down.

Posted by: Meg at September 11, 2005 12:33 PM

count his posts...and take into consideration what it was that shut him down.

keep in mind the crocodile tears

when they are exposed to their deepest fears

it was'nt our fault they say

when the crimes are brought to day.

They probably learned how to disable the defense systems in flight school.

Posted by: Meg at September 11, 2005 12:35 PM

They don't teach that in flight school...Not a single one of those guys was trained to fly a 757/767...They only qualified for single engine prop planes...big difference...You have to have a security clearance even to look at the plans...

Note Rumsfeld was also behind Reagans winnable nuclear war doctrine...

109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?

Posted by Nobody

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Was that the guy that dissapeared in Memphis?

winnable nuclear war doctrine...

acceptable losses- 93% of global population

takes care of the "population problem"

(that's as far as they got.)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 12:10 PM

Yes they did.

It was to lie from a position of responsibility and authority.

It was to manipulate and distort the truth.

It was to have a purpose other than the apparent purpose.

It was to claim their life was at stake if the people didn't do what was suggested be done.

Those are old ways to dupe folks.

There is one other thing I see at work in this... to lie BIG.

Make the lie SO BIG that no one would think you'd have made it up.

How deep that lie goes, I don't know.

Did they just not stop it? The planes?

Did they plan it?

Did they just use the situation for callous and short sighted political purposes or mere economic profit?

I think the same could be said for the Gulf Coast disaster.

Did they just not stop it? Did they plan to a have poor response?

How deep is their commitment to altering the face of this nation forever?

There is no depths to which they will not sink, IMNSHO.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 12:44 PM

I like the way this idiot thinks!

There were 5 burglars arrested on June 17, 1972 at the Watergate offices of the Democratic National Committee:
Bernard L. Barker - a realtor from Miami, Florida. Former Central Intelligence Agency operative. Barker was said to have been involved in the Bay of Pigs incident in 1962.

Virgilio R. Gonzales - a locksmith from Miami, Florida. Gonzalez was a refugee from Cuba, following Castro's takeover.

James W. McCord - a security co-ordinator for the Republican National Committee and the Committee for the Re-election of the President. McCord was also a former FBI and CIA agent. He was dismissed from his RNC and CREEP positions the day after the break-in.

Eugenio R. Martinez - worked for Barker's Miami real estate firm. He had CIA connections and was an anti-Castro Cuban exile. Click here to read Martinez's account of the burglary.

Frank A. Sturgis - another associate of Barker from Miami, he also had CIA connections and involvement in anti-Castro activities.

Sturgis has become one of THE central figures over the years of suspicion and paranoia of the
"Shadow Government." Sturgis was alleged to have
been spotted on Chappaquiddeck Island the night
of the Ted Kennedy drowning fiasco.

Sturgis was allegedly spotted on the Grassy Knoll, near the railroad tracks...the day JFK
was shot in Dallas. I think there is even a nice clear photo of him there.

Did they just not stop it? Did they plan to a have poor response?

How deep is their commitment to altering the face of this nation forever?

There is no depths to which they will not sink, IMNSHO.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 12:44 PM

yup

well we been examining the evidence for the last week or so, probably one of the best analyses on the web.

they knew the dikes needed work

they shortchanged the work funding

they had detailed studies of where, when,

and who would get whacked depending on which dyke

went down. they knew what the US would need in emergency

response time, personal, and equip and have

for years. they stopped aid from

arriving and being used. they

cut off communication

every way they could.

deliberately...

//I like the way this idiot thinks!//

i'm going to the thom hartmann chatroom

Great thread. way to go n

Homeland security minister of propaganda Karen hughes is not pleased.

~~~

Good article, "healthcare" vs health freedom

http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_560.shtml

back later

and yet with fighter pilot precision...

Was that the guy that dissapeared in Memphis?

Posted by: Meg at September 11, 2005 12:41 PM

yes...you can google any of the names or terms in the above questions to find out more

''Americans can't ever know that it's going to be over,'' said Alan Lipman, a clinical psychologist at George Washington University. ''And so it creates a kind of continuing low level of threat for which there is no clear answer. And I think we see that bubbling under American society over the last four years.''

Toss this into the toxic soup of Katrina as well...

it'll be over when we get rid of this emerging corporatetocracy.

or as i put it, the "hypocracy"

yes...you can google any of the names or terms in the above questions to find out more

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 01:03 PM

---------

I remember that story. They said he "fell off the bridge".

Bush orders FEMA to protect Upsidedownland

I remember that story. They said he "fell off the bridge".

Posted by: Meg at September 11, 2005 01:07 PM

google "missing microbiologists"

The list is quite long

Note the PNAC document references genome specific biological weapons as "politically useful tools"

i mention freezing global multinat assets as a

"politically useful tool"

On the other hand I've heard that they've set up change jars around the offices...

Insurers balk at paying out to 1 million Katrina flood victims

Millions of people forced out of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina may not be insured for the damage to their homes.

More than half of the properties in the city are understood to be insured only for hurricane damage, with insurers insisting that it was a flood that forced the evacuation of the city.

If US courts agree, this could save the insurance industry as much as $10bn (£5.4bn) and leave more than a million people destitute.

Typical US household insurance policies do not cover for flood damage. Instead, homeowners have to buy a second policy through the National Flood Insurance Programme, part of the much- derided Federal Emergency Management Agency. Only 46 per cent of New Orleans householders had purchased one.

i mention freezing global multinat assets as a

"politically useful tool"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 01:13 PM

Impossible to pull off...However...a national strike could possibly be organized

Today, Sunday, September 11th at 7:06PM E.S.T., ABC News Radio
Affiliates on the east coast will air a 1 hour pre-recorded special featuring
author and theologian David Ray Griffin, 9/11 survivor and RICO suit
plaintiff William Rodgriquez and 9/11 widow Lorie Van Auken, who recently
presented at Congresswoman McKinney's Congressional Briefing on July
22. The program will for the first time on a major new news network give
voice to the those who have challenged the 9/11 Commission's findings,
who have suggested a pervasive cover-up or the involvement of
government conspirators.

The program will re-air hourly at 8:06, 9:06, 10:06, etc. this evening.
It has already been aired by two affiliates and is now available to
over 3000 affiliates nationally.

Please tune in, record the show, and let ABC know that you are
interested in similar programs digging deeper into the challenges posed to the
official narrative for the events of September 11th.

Please take a moment now to email your friends and colleagues and let
them know about this encouraging breakthrough.

For a list of affiliates please visit http://www.abcradio.com

EU, US face uphill battle on Iran at IAEA-diplomats

BERLIN (Reuters) - A joint EU and U.S. effort to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council over a suspected nuclear weapons programme is meeting fierce resistance from some members of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), diplomats say.

More than half a dozen countries on the IAEA's 35-nation governing board, which meets on September 19, believe there is no justification for a referral, they said.

"I think unanimity may be impossible," one European diplomat told Reuters. "Pakistan and Brazil have basically given us a definitive 'no'. "Several other countries will also be difficult to convince."

"China and Russia will be difficult," another EU diplomat said, adding that without Beijing and Moscow the plan to ratchet up the pressure on Tehran might fail.

"this is the office of blankity blank and sons law firm how may we help you?"

"I'm sorry Mr Rumsfield. Mr Blankity and partners are dealing with their own freezes on accounts."

"Yes sir, I'm sure they'll get back to you sir"

"I'm sorry Mr Rumsfield they are incredibly busy"

"Well currently they've even frozen our Petty cash accounts, as well as putting a freeze on ALL of our personal accounts"

"Mr Rumsfield, that was an incredibly rude statement... I'm sure they'll call as soon as they can"

" we have many other calls sir, can we put you on hold?"

Like restricting access to it's oil and natural gas...

Iran Warns of "certain Consequences" if It Is Referred to Security Council Over Nuclear Issue

Iran warned Sunday that there will be "certain consequences" if it is referred to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions over its nuclear activities. New Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki also told a news conference Iran plans to organize tenders for building two more nuclear power plants in the Islamic republic.

Mottaki reiterated Iran's position that it will not stop uranium reprocessing, rejecting a U.S.-backed European threat that Tehran has about a week to freeze the activities or face referral to the Security Council for possible sanctions. "There is no legal or legitimate reason, given Iran's transparent activities and its open cooperation with the IAEA ... that Iran be referred to the U.N. Security Council," Mottaki told reporters.

"If a political decision is made to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council, it will be entering a lose-lose game," he added. "It will have its own certain consequences and will affect Iran's decisions. We prefer that such a game is not played."

The United States accuses Iran of using its civilian nuclear program as a cover to secretly produce nuclear weapons. Iran has rejected the charges, saying its nuclear program is geared toward generating electricity, not a bomb.

" Case in point: Listen to these local Los Angeles talk show hosts bullwhip their FEMA regional director, Karen Armes. Hey, at least she has a degree in recreation administration. That should be good in a pinch. "

How difficult is it to say - we have water over here, we have trucks at the same place, and we will have them at place X in... 60 minutes.

Karen Armes seems to be some kind of bureaucrat who is more interested in planning and coordinating relations between the agencies. Even so, how difficult would it be to just know where something as basic as water supplies would come from?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 01:22 PM

The only ones with authority to put a freeze on are the ones running this bus off the cliff...

Blackwater Mercenaries Deploy in New Orleans
By Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo
t r u t h o u t | Report

Saturday 10 September 2005

New Orleans - Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans. Some of the mercenaries say they have been "deputized" by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force. Several mercenaries we spoke with said they had served in Iraq on the personal security details of the former head of the US occupation, L. Paul Bremer and the former US ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte.

"This is a totally new thing to have guys like us working CONUS (Continental United States)," a heavily armed Blackwater mercenary told us as we stood on Bourbon Street in the French Quarter. "We're much better equipped to deal with the situation in Iraq."

Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences. Their presence on the streets of New Orleans should be a cause for serious concern for the remaining residents of the city and raises alarming questions about why the government would allow men trained to kill with impunity in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to operate here. Some of the men now patrolling the streets of New Orleans returned from Iraq as recently as 2 weeks ago.

LINK

Operator to other operator, leaning over to whisper...

"you know i never realised what an asshole Mr Rumsfield is till this call!"

other operator.

"i'll trade you calls, i have George Bush the elder on this line!"

authority....

what an interesting choice of words...

Exit polls: Big win for Koizumi

Koizumi nurtures a cult of personality

Charismatic leader reshaping Japan

TOKYO -- Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi of Japan hopped down from a campaign platform in a Tokyo square last week, his trademark gray mane rippling in the wind as he pumped his fists through an evening drizzle. Scores of teenagers, grandfathers, and young mothers gasped, casting aside umbrellas and whipping out cellphone cameras. Electronic clicks and flashes filled the damp air along with a booming chant from a bullhorn:

"Koizumi has nurtured a friendship with Bush, who calls him one of his best friends abroad, and describes the alliance with the United States as the core of Japan's diplomacy."

Will Emerging Challenges Change Japanese
Security Policy?

A new generation of Japanese politicians, taking an increasingly realist approach to defense policy, is gaining prominence in the Diet. The Koizumi government's successful push for changes in the legislation governing the activities of the Japanese military reflects the influence of these "military realists." More open debates about Japan's security policy have taken place without stimulating major public protests. Even discussions about Japan's possible development of nuclear weapons, until very recently a taboo subject, have become a controversial part of the Japanese security debate.

Sensitivity to U.S. pressure has historically influenced policymakers in Japan, and in the last decade, Washington has pressed Tokyo to play a more active role, both in its own defense and on the world stage. New agreements on military cooperation between the United States and Japan reinforced the need for increased Japanese military capabilities. After the September 11th terror attacks, the U

Sensitivity to U.S. pressure has historically influenced policymakers in Japan, and in the last decade, Washington has pressed Tokyo to play a more active role, both in its own defense and on the world stage. New agreements on military cooperation between the United States and Japan reinforced the need for increased Japanese military capabilities. After the September 11th terror attacks, the U.S. pressure enabled Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi to push for a series of new legislation that increased Japan's ability to join the U.S.-led "war on terror" and to send Japanese troops abroad.

The unthinkable: A nuclear-armed Japan

what an interesting choice of words...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 01:37 PM

try "ability" then...without having "authority" you have no "ability" in this case.

no, i think i'll privately

pursue the ramifications of "authority"

for a little while, though "ability"

will definitely be considered.

btw you might like this place jimmy...

http://www.nti.org/

End the war in Iraq. Sept. 24th Peace

i'll check it out...

mmmm, co-chaired by Ted Turner and Sam Nunn.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 01:44 PM

you do that...the results are still the same...

It's impossible to freeze trans national assets without showing cause and then you gotta take the cause up to the assholes running this country and have them do it...

There are no governments willing or capable of doing so presently...

And if you could you still don't effect black budgets...

However like I said...you can organize a national strike...if it lasted a week it would do serious damage to them...if it lasted a day then it would rock them a bit...

The primary resource is always manpower...

On this fourth anniversary of September 11, 2001, I think it is important to remind all of you that we have been lied to. Not about small things, like who gets tax cuts and who does not. But about big things, like who attacked us, and why.

Growing up, I was always amazed at how suddenly, in 1776, the world turned a 90-degree corner, and all of a sudden the Leaders looked out for their people, and cared about their people, and put honesty and legitimacy above personal gain and graft and corruption. The end of mafia-esque government. After all, since the beginning of civilization the biggest gang around became the “government” and all other gangs became the enemy. That is just how human society worked.

As I got older, I started to wonder. Maybe history is not a dis-continuous, segmented, broken stream of behavior. Maybe history is continuous, and that is why the study of history is important – because people have lived before us, people just like us, facing the same situations in life, and they have tales to tell, and lessons to depart.

So, why would, all of a sudden, the most powerful people in the their respective lands become virtuous, virtually overnight? Why would Presidents and Prime Ministers all of a sudden go from aristocratic oligarchs to servants of the people, knowing they sacrifice so much power and wealth in the process?

Well, maybe they didn’t. Maybe it is only the perception that has changed, and not the reality.
Maybe it is only the stories that change, and it is the people that remain the same.

"Sam Nunn is dangerous because he's a Democratic Dick Cheney. All that stuff about grass roots, small donations, etc, you can throw out the window if Nunn gets on board with the Dean Campaign. Nunn has been on the board of directors for some of the largest corporations in the world; including Coca Cola, Dell Computers, and, most frighteningly, General Electric and Texaco. GE, if you didn't know, makes its money off of refridgerators, bombs, weapons of mass destruction and television programming. Texaco is, well- a Texas based oil company. Apparently, because the man is from Georgia, and because Dean has been talking to him in regards to foreign policy, the talking head thought it might make political sense. He's also very strong on foreign policy, having worked to end the cold war by way of a mutual disarmament agreement w/ the USSR. But Nunn is everything Howard Dean is running against. It makes as much sense as JFK/LBJ, I guess."

UK attacks US over climate

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott has criticised the US's record on combating global warming in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, which devastated New Orleans. In a speech in Berlin, Mr Prescott took a swipe at the US government, which has refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol. He told the International Congress of the Council for European Urbanism that climate change was to blame for rising sea levels and more storm activity. Mr Prescott drew a parallel between New Orleans and "at risk" island states.

'Solidarity and compassion' Mr Prescott stressed his "compassion" for the US, but said President Bush's administration had been "wrong" not to join Britain and other leading industrial nations in supporting the Kyoto Protocol on climate change. "I want to take this opportunity to express our solidarity and compassion after the havoc of Hurricane Katrina. "As a European negotiator at the Kyoto climate change convention, I was fully aware that climate change is changing weather patterns and raising sea levels," he said. Some commentators have suggested Katrina is an example of the type of storms that will become more common with global warming.

The Kyoto agreement aims to reverse global warming through the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. But the US government has been reluctant to accept that human activity is to blame. In his speech, Mr Prescott also hailed the US city mayors who had ignored their federal government's position and had taken action locally to limit carbon emissions. He said: "On a recent visit to the United States, I was delighted to see that city mayors are taking their own environmental initiative on Kyoto.

"This year, 178 mayors, representing over 36 million Americans have signed up to the goals of Kyoto - along with 60 mayors from cities like London, Shanghai, Moscow and Rio who have agreed to take 21 practical actions on energy waste, urban design, health water and transport." He continued: "The horrific flood of New Orleans brings home to us the concern of leaders of countries like the Maldives, whose nations are at risk of disappearing complete

"This year, 178 mayors, representing over 36 million Americans have signed up to the goals of Kyoto - along with 60 mayors from cities like London, Shanghai, Moscow and Rio who have agreed to take 21 practical actions on energy waste, urban design, health water and transport." He continued: "The horrific flood of New Orleans brings home to us the concern of leaders of countries like the Maldives, whose nations are at risk of disappearing completely. [["I'm proud that Britain has already achieved its Kyoto target on greenhouse gas emissions - six years ahead of time, with a growing economy."]]

check the link for the Research library jimmy...I'm aware of who Sam Nunn is ;)

global strike would be fine with me...

seems like the prexisting causes are lining up nicely.

the oligarchs have just about pissed

everyone else off...

A history of state “enemies” as tools for manipulating the populace:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/

A new documentary tells of two former cabinet ministers who formed their own investigation of 9/11, and found that the U.S. government did little or nothing to prevent an attack it almost certainly knew was coming: (use Babelfish for a rough translation, find a Dutchman to watch it with you).

http://www.2vandaag.nl/index.php?module=PX_Story&func=view&cid=2&sid=29834#

The myth of Flight 93: how two debris sites 8 miles apart shatters the myth of nose-diving a plane into the ground.

http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_secondary_debris_field.html

A poignant tale of public manipulation: How the Tudor Monarchy used the Protestant-Catholic split to their own advantage, all the while leading the populace to think it was all about “religion,” when it actuality it was about money, land, wealth, and power by and for the Tudors.

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/west/reformation2.htm

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 01:16 PM

David Ray Griffin, saw him on CSPAN a while back, astonishing. Thank you for the heads up, toniD!

Streaming video -- The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions --
Professor David Ray Griffin here:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8765.htm

u mean stuff like this?

"Although the intelligence community had state actors principally in mind in reaching this latter judgment, terrorists and non-state actors have also figured into American planning. In a 2001 counter-terrorism exercise, the North American Aerospace Defense command (NORAD) simulated a cruise missile launch from a merchant ship in the Gulf of Mexico, causing the NORAD test director to observe, “we are naked ... [and] have no capacity to deal with that kind of problem.”

excerpt:

England: The Tudor Monarchy

Henry VIII. The Protestant Reformation got a toe-hold in England when King Henry VIII (1509-1547) began to undermine the position of the Catholic Church in England in order to pursue his own personal political (and matrimonial!) goals. He had no particular theological argument with Catholicism, but in fact thought of himself as a kingly "Defender of the Faith." Henry's attack on the church had more to do with his desire to secure the legitimacy of his fluxuating matrimonial decisions--and to get his hands on the vast wealth in property, labor-services and monies of the Church.

Through a policy of unrelenting confiscation, Henry transferred vast sums of wealth from the Church to the royal coffers--or to his supporters, who were coming rapidly to reconstitute themselves as a new gentry or nobility of wealth. They were in close league with the King, buying up Church lands with their vast wealth earned through manufacture, mining, commerce and banking--probably entirely for reasons of social status, though they put these new acquisitions to work as sources of new capital undergirding their ever-increasing wealth.

In any case, this new urban, capitalist nobility ultimately became supporters of the Reformation out of a fear that the restoration of the Church's position would have entailed the loss of their own. Also they probably understood how throwing countless numbers of monks and nuns out onto the labor market did not hurt their labor costs any--not to mention that closing the abbys likewise gave the poor no refuge except to go to work at a slave-wage rates for these new industrial-commercial elite.

From 1547 to 1558 England shifted back and forth in politics between the Protestants and the Catholics. Under Edward VI (1547-1553), England veered toward Protestantism. Under "Bloody" Mary I (1553-1558), the Catholics seemed to be in ascendancy. Indeed, during the brief reign of Mary, who married Spanish King Philip II, it even appeared that England might be brought into the Habsburg holdings as a new Spanish-dominated province. The English were outraged.

Elizabeth (1558-1603) carefully plotted a "middle" course la

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Get shows like Free Speach TV, Link, PBS, University of Wisconsin.

Now FSTV has "Bush Family Fortunes" by Greg Pallast

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Honestly, if I see another "LOL" I will shoot someone. More proof that supporters of Bush are just as stupid as he is.....

excerpt:

Elizabeth (1558-1603) carefully plotted a "middle" course largely designed to keep herself secure in her position as queen.
During the first part of her reign she succeeded through diplomacy in neutralizing the influences of the pope and Catholic Spain. At home her natural sympathies were with the Protestant position--though not with the more radical "Puritans" among them. She also rebuilt the alliance her father had established with the newly emergent commercial/industrial lords--encouraging an industrial revolution during her reign.

But during the second part of her reign, Catholic hostilities both at home and abroad began to mount. Catholic Mary Stuart, Queen of Scotland--who also had good claim to the throne of England--became a rallying symbol for English Catholicism, especially after Mary was forced to resettle in England after a Protestant revolt threw her out of Scotland in 1568. By the 1580's there were continual Catholic plots to assassinate Elizabeth--brought under some degree of control only after Mary's beheading in 1587. Meanwhile Elizabeth's efforts to help the Protestant rebellion in the Netherlands against Catholic Spain's rule there, plus the authorizing of English privateers to attack Spanish shipping, only pushed Spain beyond the possibilities of any diplomatic solution. In 1588 Spain sent its "invincible Armada" to punish England--only to have this Spanish navy destroyed by the English navy, and by a series of natural disasters which greeted the Spanish survivors as they tried to make their way home. This by no means ended the Spanish danger--which only seemed to enlargen across the channel as Philip persisted in his efforts to manipulate religious policies and royal succession in neighboring France.

In her last years Elizabeth faced problems at home that taxed her powers: drought and poverty in the English countryside; an empty royal treasury and a huge tax burden placed on her people brought on by her diplomatic/military efforts to keep England independent; a more aggressive Protestantism which looked to Parliament rather than the monarchy as the real power in English politics.

like those explosions going off all over los angeles recently?

al Qaeda Member Warns of Attacks..Names Los Angeles and Melbourne

Sept. 11, 2005 — In an apparent Sept. 11 communiqué broadcast on ABC News, an al Qaeda operative threatens new attacks against cities in the US and Australia.

"Yesterday, London and Madrid. Tomorrow, Los Angeles and Melbourne, God willing. At this time, don't count on us demonstrating restraint or compassion," the tape warns. "We are Muslims. We love peace, but peace on our terms, peace as laid down by Islam, not the so-called peace of occupiers and dictators."

Are they wising up in the reddest of red states?

More Texans say they favor sharing the wealth

An income tax, other proposals draw responses along party lines

AUSTIN - Although a growing number of Texans believe their local property taxes are too high, most support the controversial law, dubbed "Robin Hood," that requires property wealthy school districts to share tax revenue with poorer schools.

But there are sharp differences between Republicans and Democrats over the share-the-wealth law, the Scripps Howard Texas Poll shows, underscoring one reason for the Legislature's prolonged inability to overhaul the school finance system and cut local school taxes.

But despite the Republican attacks against Robin Hood, 57 percent of the survey's respondents agree that rich districts should share their money with poorer schools. Some 38 percent disagree, and 5 percent don't know, reflecting similar polls earlier this year.

"The vast majority of people, as they study it, say it makes a lot of sense to take the state's wealth, where it is in abundance, and move it to where the children are in abundance," said Wayne Pierce, executive director of the Texas Equity Center, which represents several hundred low- and middle-wealth school districts.

Dutch court loses A.Q. Khan’s files, judge suspects CIA

AMSTERDAM - The Amsterdam court, which sentenced the father of Pakistan’s nuclear program Abdul Qadeer Khan to four years in prison in 1983, has lost Khan’s legal files and the court’s vice-president suspects the CIA had a hand in the documents’ disappearance.

“Something is not right, we just don’t lose things like that,” judge Anita Leeser told Dutch news show NOVA late on Friday.

“I find it bewildering that people lose files with a political goal, especially if it is on request of the CIA. It is unheard of,” she added.

Khan, who admitted in 2004 that he had leaked nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya, worked as an engineer in the Netherlands at Urenco, an uranium enrichment plant in the 1970s.

9/11 and Manipulation of the USA
By Norman Solomon
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Sunday 11 September 2005

Traveling from New York City in late September 2001, on a pre-scheduled book tour, author Joan Didion spoke with audiences in several cities on the West Coast. In the wake of 9/11, she later wrote, "these people to whom I was listening - in San Francisco and Los Angeles and Portland and Seattle - were making connections I had not yet in my numbed condition thought to make: connections between [the American] political process and what had happened on September 11, connections between our political life and the shape our reaction would take and was in fact already taking. These people recognized that even then, within days after the planes hit, there was a good deal of opportunistic ground being seized under cover of the clearly urgent need for increased security. These people recognized even then, with flames still visible in lower Manhattan, that the words 'bipartisanship' and 'national unity' had come to mean acquiescence to the administration's preexisting agenda..."

A lot of media coverage was glorifying people who died and/or showed courage on September 11, 2001. "In fact," Didion contended, "it was in the reflexive repetition of the word 'hero' that we began to hear what would become in the year that followed an entrenched preference for ignoring the meaning of the event in favor of an impenetrably flattening celebration of its victims, and a troublingly belligerent idealization of historical ignorance."

To observe the political manipulation of 9/11 after the towers collapsed was to witness a multidimensional power grab exercised largely via mass media. By the end of 2002, Didion concisely and incisively described what occurred: "We had seen, most importantly, the insistent use of September 11 to justify the reconception of America's correct role in the world as one of initiating and waging virtually perpetual war." Instead of, even in theory, being a war to end all wars, the new war for America would be a war to end peace.

LINK

Dutch court loses A.Q. Khan’s files, judge suspects CIA

9/11 and Manipulation of the USA

To observe the political manipulation of 9/11 after the towers collapsed was to witness a multidimensional power grab exercised largely via mass media. By the end of 2002, Didion concisely and incisively described what occurred: "We had seen, most importantly, the insistent use of September 11 to justify the reconception of America's correct role in the world as one of initiating and waging virtually perpetual war." Instead of, even in theory, being a war to end all wars, the new war for America would be a war to end peace.

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 02:19 PM

Holy F!

That is outrageous.

I'm stunned.

Again.

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 02:18 PM

hahaha not again...I guess I wasn't paying attention

mornin toni

ya,

people really resist leaving their "comfort zones"

Folks, prepared yourself for another disaster-- A DELIBERATE DISASTER. Bush and the Republicans are working hard to send millions of us straight to the old poor-house everyday and have been planning it for years.

I live in a old mill community inside a big city were the mill owners had nearly all the local jobs with cheap wages, no benefits, where they owned many of the houses which they rented to their poor workers and owned the stores and built the churches. In short they owned everyone and everything just about. Bush and the Republicans are taking millions of us all down that poor-house road to lived under the ownership of the super-rich.

Bush and the Republicans are running massive record deficits over 600 billion a years by true accounts. At the same time they are borrowing billions, they are taking billions from social security surpluses, and billions from foreign governments to keep the government running. They are spending billions in Iraq and now billions as they should spend rebuilding from the hurricane Katrina disaster.

Even after the latest disasters news reports say they plan to continue cuts in social programs. New reports say they have delayed but plan more tax cuts that will mostly help the rich. News is the disaster from hurricance Katrina will go over 150 billion. Billions not part of any government budget prior to the disaster.

Problem is they are deliberately with massive tax cuts and a reckless war and occupation in Iraq spending our government into a bankrupt situation where they can force massive reductions in all government programs to the eventual point where they can eliminate them all. This has been their long time goal since Reagan`s presidency and now Bush intents to finish the job Reagan and his father and the Republicans wanted to do for a long, long time. They want the rich to be super-rich. They want a two class society with millions of us enslaved to the corporate super-rich owners.

Folks, this is the truth, hear it from one of their own, Grover Norquist, May 25, 2001, " I don`t want to abolish governemnt. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the Bathroom and drown it. "

This is the true ideology

25 Mind-Numbingly Stupid Quotes About Hurricane Katrina And Its Aftermath

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 02:18 PM

Piquant. Brilliant. Nosey, as in "On The..."

yupper Redeagle1

it's "hard" to believe is'nt it?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 02:26 PM

Novocaine for the Brain.

Israel General Decides not to land in UK for fear of arrest for war crimes

Katrina Darkens the Outlook for Incumbents
Public Dismay Could Shape 2006 Elections

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 11, 2005; Page A02

Hurricane Katrina has the potential to foment change in Washington like the terrorist strikes did four years ago, altering the government's priorities for the foreseeable future and darkening the mood of an electorate that was already anxious before the storm hit shore, according to lawmakers, pollsters and strategists from both parties.

The dispute over Washington's role in saving lives in New Orleans and in the future threatens to make incumbents from both parties among Katrina's casualties, several officials said. With the popularity of Congress and President Bush sagging before the crisis, many officials said Bush and lawmakers made their situation worse by pointing fingers and digressing into political warfare with rescue operations still underway.

The aftermath of the past two weeks is almost certain to have a long echo. The billions of dollars already committed -- with many predicting the sum will eventually reach into the hundreds of billions -- is enough to make the New Orleans catastrophe a dominant factor in Washington's ritual battles over spending priorities for the balance of Bush's term. And the question of accountability -- fixing responsibility for what went wrong in the troubled early days of the rescue effort -- promises to color congressional debate for the next year or more.

LINK

This is one of the companies offering jobs to the people of New Orleans right now...presumably to go to Iraq...Much in the style of Blackwater

DynCorp Disgrace

Posted Jan. 14, 2002

Americans were seen in Bosnia as defenders of the children, as shown here, until U.S. contractors began buying children as personal sex slaves.

Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing business in Bosnia.

According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft mechanic, "in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees and supervisors from DynCorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior [and] were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and [participating in] other immoral acts. Johnston witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally buying and selling women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees would brag about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they had purchased."

hahaha not again...I guess I wasn't paying attention

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 02:24 PM

You know we do this all the time. Like minds.

Copied all your lists this am for my groups. Thanks!!

We couldn't do it, but God did." –Rep. Richard Baker (R-LA) to lobbyists, as quoted in the Wall Street Journal (Source)

14) "Louisiana is a city that is largely under water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, news conference, Sept. 3, 2005 (Source)

Fox Valley Citizens for Peace and Justice

Media Advisory

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 11 September 2005
INFORMATION: Siobhan Kolar 630.845.9418

CINDY SHEEHAN EVENT DISRUPTED BY HASTERT’S OFFICE

Lisa Zeimetz on her blog “Angry Republican Mom” posts that she “was called to counter-protest.” She continues, “I wanted to take photos, but I handed off my purse to one of Hastert’s employees, and my purse was effectively locked in the secured congressional office” for two hours, “until all the freakos left.” Zeimetz resides in Paw Paw, Illinois. Another protestor reported coming from Dolton but reporters have not questioned how he found out about the protest or whether he was paid or transported by Hastert’s office. Counter-protestors also reported that they were interns at Hastert’s office.

Mary Shesgreen chair of Fox Valley Citizens for Peace and Justice a primary organizer of the event was disappointed in the incivility of the protestors. “The police had to remove the counter-protestors with repeated instructions because they were standing in the area we had reserved through a legal permit.” She was even more surprised that Speaker Hastert’s office apparently had something to do with organizing those yelling at Cindy Sheehan and other military family members and veterans. “We only wanted to express our concerns about the Iraq war to Speaker Hastert. Cindy Sheehan and the other military family members and veterans wanted dialogue. Instead we got angry people who didn’t respect our permit and who the Speaker’s office helped organize at taxpayer’s expense. Wouldn’t it have been easier simply to meet with us and avoid all the fuss?” See http://angryrepublicanmom.blogspot.com/2005/09/my-first-protest.html for more information on the Paw Paw mom’s first protest action.

Copied all your lists this am for my groups. Thanks!!

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 02:37 PM

All?...

[ponders his mind being like that of rather a hot older woman]

argh!...

[rushes off to go lift something heavy]

Bait News Service

Breaking News

Michael Brown has announced that he is stepping down from his role as FEMA chief to launch a lobbying/consulting firm in Washington D.C.

Co-investors who have asked not to be named stated that, due to his name recognition and his access to the President, now is the perfect time for Mr. Brown to begin this private enterprise.

The same sources are predicting that the new firm will be registered with one of two names when plans are finalized: Brown Knows Bush & Associates or Brown Knows Lobbying, Inc.

hee hee toni!

Access denied

This is the golden age of the internet, a time of glorious anarchy where information is free and anyone, rich or poor, can blog their views to the world. But government and big business are moving in - the clampdown has started.

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 02:26 PM

I read all 25.

At first they were annoyingly stupid.

By 18 and 19 I was outright laughing for the absurdity of it.

By 25 I was totally pissed by the stupidity again.

Careful Nobody. Don't hurt your back!!

Like Father, like son.

A Price To Be Paid For Folly

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, credible private experts are forecasting a federal budget deficit of $500 billion for this year, a sharp reminder of the government's fiscal folly.

Ciamar a tha sibh an duigh?

Careful Nobody. Don't hurt your back!!

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 02:53 PM

and yet another cheap shot on my masculinity...

The guff around here....sheesh ;)

The chasm between us
Katrina has exposed the scale of US inequality, but we have little reason to be smug about our own social divide
Polly Toynbee
Friday September 09 2005
The Guardian

Remember shock and awe? It was meant to radiate a might never seen before on the face of the earth. Armed as no power has ever been, pre-eminent as only Rome before it, America the all-conquering would spread democracy across the globe by the force of its invincible armoury. When daisycutters dropped on a Taliban that fled leaving their hot dinners on the frontline, when Baghdad fell with hardly a battle, shock and awe looked easy.

Now the shock is something else. It is the shock of discovering that Oz is only an optical illusion and the Wizard is a small man with no magic power after all. America now looks like some fearsome robotic dinosaur stomping across the landscape, a gigantic Power Ranger toy, all bright gadgets and display but no power and nothing inside. It's Buzz Lightyear. It can't actually do anything useful after all.

The hollow superpower stands exposed, but it may take a little while for the world to readjust its set to this new reality. Just as everything has been reimagined after the end of the old cold war, now the single superpower scenario is in need of urgent revision. Iraq has shown that smart missiles, heavy-metal techno-tricks and soldiers whose helmets are electronically controlled from Southern Command in Tampa, are virtually useless. The lessons that the Vietcong on bicycles thought they had taught the behemoth are being learned all over again as failure and calamity stare the White House in the face.

This the world has seen unfold nightly on the news as civil war engulfs Iraq, exactly as forewarned by all the war's opponents. What irony that Iran, the heart of America's "axis of evil", without lifting a finger or firing a shot, will win its historic ambition to breathe its influence across both Afghanistan and Iraq. As the US finds that the power to break nations is useless without the power to make them, shock and awe is over.

But it took Hurricane Katrina to expose the real emptiness under the US carapace. No wonder

Dish Ch. 9412

UCTV

Jon Kabat-Zinn: Coming to our senses.

Mindfulness.

It's the Feds' Job

NEW ORLEANS -- The sense of wholesale apocalypse is beginning to ebb along with the floodwaters. Some streets that were underwater a week ago are dry. There's no problem with law and order now that almost everybody is gone. National Guard troops and helping-hand police units from as far away as Denver

Scores Denied Leave Time To Aid Displaced Families

Scores of Mississippi National Guard troops in Iraq who lost their homes to Hurricane Katrina have been refused even 15-day leaves to aid their displaced families, told by commanders there were too few U.S. troops in Iraq to spare them, according to members of the Mississippi National Guard

NBC's Williams: Journalists' Gloves Off

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By DAVID BAUDER AP Television Writer

September 11,2005 | NEW YORK -- NBC's Brian Williams says the lasting legacy of Hurricane Katrina for journalists may be the end of an unusual four-year period of deference to people in power.

There were so many angry, even incredulous, questions put to Bush administration officials about the response to Katrina that the Salon Web site compiled a "Reporters Gone Wild" video clip. Tim Russert, Anderson Cooper, Ted Koppel and Shepard Smith were among the stars.

The mute button seemingly in place since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks has been turned off.

"By dint of the fact that our country was hit we've offered a preponderance of the benefit of the doubt over the past couple of years," the "Nightly News" anchorman said. "Perhaps we've taken something off our fastball and perhaps this is the story that brings a healthy amount of cynicism back to a news media known for it."

...Williams has had a hellish travelogue the past year, including Banda Aceh after the tsunami and a battleground in Mosul, Iraq, filled with the dead and dying. He never thought he'd see such suffering in his own country.

"I measure my words very carefully," he said. "I guard my opinions very carefully. To me, this was life and death.

"I refuse to believe that anyone I met at the dome has lesser value than anybody in my family that I go home to. I don't believe that about this country. I don't want that to be the lesson in this. I was angry. People were going without and dying in the wealthiest country the world has ever known.

http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8CI71F82.html

Tha mi'n dochas gu bheil sibh gu math!

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 02:51 PM

See?

We already have anarchy.

Right smack dab in the middle of our democracy.

As usual, it's a question of ratio.

Too much of a good thing is not good.

Mediocrity, like anarchy, is another misunderstood word. I see it's merits best expressed this way: "In all things, moderation."

Cover-up: toxic waters 'will make New Orleans unsafe for a decade'
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Correspondent
Published: 11 September 2005

Toxic chemicals in the New Orleans flood waters will make the city unsafe for full human habitation for a decade, a US government official has told The Independent on Sunday. And, he added, the Bush administration is covering up the danger.

In an exclusive interview, Hugh Kaufman, an expert on toxic waste and responses to environmental disasters at the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), said the way the polluted water was being pumped out was increasing the danger to health.

The pollution was far worse than had been admitted, he said, because his agency was failing to take enough samples and was refusing to make public the results of those it had analysed. "Inept political hacks" running the clean-up will imperil the health of low-income migrant workers by getting them to do the work.

His intervention came as President Bush's approval ratings fell below 40 per cent for the first time. Yesterday, Britain's Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, turned the screw by criticising the US President's opposition to the Kyoto protocol on global warming. He compared New Orleans to island nations such as the Maldives, which are threatened by rising sea levels. Other US sources spelt out the extent of the danger from one of America's most polluted industrial areas, known locally as "Cancer Alley".

LINK

Nobs

I was able to answer all 858 of your questions. Pretty easy stuff. The original question to it all is "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

That's the tough one.

Katrina Exposes Superpower in Disarray

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By ANNE GEARAN AP Diplomatic Writer

September 11,2005 | WASHINGTON -- Rarely in U.N. history has the United States, the organization's chief sponsor and host, looked as awkward or vulnerable to foreign eyes as it does now.

With 170 world leaders meeting in New York this week, the Bush administration is scrambling to save lives and restore its can-do image. Hurricane Katrina has produced scenes of devastation and deprivation shocking to the rich and powerful U.S. but all too familiar elsewhere.

Televised images of fetid floodwaters in New Orleans and grim-faced U.S. officials, from President Bush on down, are greeting heads of states arriving for the U.N. General Assembly.

Bush plans a speech Wednesday, making the case for U.S.-backed initiatives that are already proving a hard sell.

Staggered by Katrina, the U.S. also faces international opposition to the war it is leading in Iraq. There is resentment, too, that Bush has refused to sign the Kyoto treaty on global warming or embrace British Prime Minister Tony Blair's proposal that rich nations donate foreign aid equal to 0.7 percent of their national income. The U.S. percentage is 0.16 percent, the lowest of leading industrialized nations.

Washington still has more money, military muscle and political say-so than anyone else. Yet Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice are coming to New York dogged by the perception of disarray and government bumbling that gives other nations a rare glimpse of a superpower on its heels.

International offers of money, equipment and other aid have flowed since the hurricane hit the Gulf Coast two weeks ago. While grateful, the administration knows that accepting the help can feed the perception of weakness.

"Because of our power, they like to test the limits of that power," said conservative foreign policy scholar Gary Schmitt. His Project for the New American Century is a regular font of ideas adopted by the White House and State Department.

"I understand that, but I think there will be a surprise, frankly, at how quickly we are able to recover. They will quickly discover that we can walk and chew gum at the same time," he said.

The administration long has had a testy relationship with the U.N., a slow-moving bureaucracy where criticism of the U.S. is common.

Bush, and especially Rice, have worked to make amends around the world during Bush's second term.

Posted by: Dream Logic at September 11, 2005 03:07 PM

not bad but your topical linking is a bit weak...assumes too much "common knowledge" of the reader...

No matter the system there will always be a level of anarchy present.

I find the arguments of anarchists fall apart when it's noted usually by them that they are free to join together to form larger organizations to protect them and such...

Isn't that what we already did in forming governments in the first place?

It's very much like the egalitarian libertarian viewpoint...it neglects to take into account the realities of the human condition...not all people are good people that will behave in a manner thats in the interests of the common good...

The good will they won has been offset somewhat by making firebrand conservative John R. Bolton the U.S. ambassador and insisting on certain changes to a blueprint for an overhaul of the organization's management and operations.

One analyst said the U.S., hobbled or not by the hurricane, is wasting a chance to reassure leaders that it will work with other countries.

"We look like we are looking for every opportunity to limit our own obligations and taking a cramped view of what the United Nations should be," said Jim Steinberg, a deputy national security adviser to President Clinton.

Despite Bush's emphasis on spreading democracy around the world, "when push comes to shove we are being lawyerly and narrow-minded in the whole approach to the U.N.," said Steinberg, who now directs foreign policy studies at the Brookings Institution.

Senate Democrats blocked Bolton's confirmation this summer, and Bush used a rare recess appointment to send him to New York.

Planning for the General Assembly was well under way, and diplomats had been working for nearly 18 months on the planning document that will go to a vote this week.

Almost from his first day, Bolton proposed changes that other countries complained amounted to a last-minute rewrite to suit U.S. tastes.

Rice disputed any suggestion that the U.S. is being high-handed or waited until the last minute to raise objections. She also said she is lobbying other nations to improve the document.

Posted by: Molly at September 11, 2005 03:06 PM

mmmmm... Gaelic-y.

(damn this joke is getting awful tired. I was gonna go for something from the "Irish Spring" collection or perhaps something in a "Gay-Lick" motif, but I opted to go to the "Homer Simpson Well" one more time.)

Nobs

I was able to answer all 858 of your questions. Pretty easy stuff. The original question to it all is "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

That's the tough one.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 11, 2005 03:10 PM

the egg by nature came first...an egg is defined very much the same as a single cell...

Now as for the rest of it...the question is actually...who played who?

Versatile Musician Gatemouth Brown Dies

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By DOUG SIMPSON Associated Press Writer

September 11,2005 | BATON ROUGE, La. -- Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a 50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.

Brown, who had been battling lung cancer and heart disease, was in ill health for the past year, said Rick Cady, his booking agent.

Cady said the musician was with his family at his brother's house when he died. Brown's home in Slidell, La., a bedroom community of New Orleans, was destroyed by Katrina, Cady said.

"He was completely devastated," Cady said. "I'm sure he was heartbroken, both literally and figuratively. He evacuated successfully before the hurricane hit, but I'm sure it weighed heavily on his soul."

[eye twitches]...guess who confirmed him...

After 42 Friendly Minutes, Senators Confirmed Brown

Michael D. Brown, relieved of his hurricane relief duties Friday, didn't get much scrutiny from the Senate at a 2002 confirmation hearing.

bears repeating...winnable nuclear war doctrine part deux

Pentagon Revises Nuclear Strike Plan

The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use them to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction.

The Great New Orleans Land Grab

The 17th Street Canal levy was breeched on purpose

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - September 7, 2005 - (ACN)
There were numerous incidents that occurred during and
immediately after Katrina struck that point to the "unthinkable".
It now appears that a sophisticated plan was implemented
that utilized the "cover of a hurricane" to first destroy and than
take over the City of New Orleans? As the world watched the
events unfolding, one could not help think that
something was terribly afoot concerning the rescue by
FEMA of the city's poor and predominate Black
population. It seems that a well laid out plan was put
into effect to grab valuable real estate from the well
established but poverty stricken Black families of New
Orleans? What is being implemented now is nothing less
than a sophisticated scheme to purge and ethnically
cleanse what Whites have termed "Black and 'welfare
bloated' New Orleans".

Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly
afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breeched
levy between the New Orleans Police Department and, what
have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated
Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least
five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by
New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breeched
levy. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said later
that those killed were "federal contractors" on their way to
"repair" a canal. The "contractors" were on their way to launch
barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to "fix" the 17th
Street Canal, according to the Army Corps of Engineers
spokesman. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New
Orleans later reported that his policemen had shot at
eight suspicious people near the breeched levy, killing
five or six.

LINK

Now as for the rest of it...the question is actually...who played who?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 03:20 PM

the left hand is hiding something from the right hand.

actually...three players in the game who's interested coincided that day...

Judge rules in favor of ACLU in Patriot Act library case

A federal judge lifted a gag order Friday that shielded the identity of librarians who received an FBI demand for records about library patrons under the Patriot Act.

U.S. District Court Judge Janet Hall ruled in favor of the American Civil Liberties Union, which argued that the gag order prevented their client from participating in a debate over whether Congress should reauthorize the Patriot Act.

"It's fabulous," said ACLU Associate Legal Director Ann Beeson. "Clearly the judge recognized it was profoundly undemocratic to gag a librarian from participating in the Patriot Act debate."

My copyrights have been violated.

Don't let the name fool you; my soups are feted.

Pentagon Revises Nuclear Strike Plan

The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use them to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction.

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 03:27 PM

What are the odds that neighboring countries like Russia and China don't have shitfits if we use nukes? With enough shovels, we can dig ourselves a hole to hide from the nuclear winter. I learned that from the Reagan experts.

Posted by: toniD at September 11, 2005 03:27 PM

After reading that article about the NO land grab, I can see Doofus asking us for a link to that.

Doofus is as Doofus does.

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 03:15 PM

As far as I can tell, we have no disagreement between my post and your response.

The point of my post is that anarchic elements are always present in democracy and are useful to some degree.

You appear to concur.

I can make on sense of your comment on my assumptions regarding relative degree of "common knowledge," but I have no problem with your assessment of my assumptions.

Assess away!

As far as egalitarian libertarianism, I think we agree but I don't really have a clear understanding of the difference between an informed liberalism and egalitarian libertarianism.

I think it's essentially a difference in degree of the amount of acceptable governmental interference in the private lives of citizens wherein libertarians are in favor of less interference.

In which case, I'm more libertarian than liberal, but perhaps not in every conceivable situation.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 03:37 PM

Who do you suppose made this post?

Me?

Well, if you did, you'd be correct.

Posted by: Toxic Stu at September 11, 2005 03:32 PM

Damn that is a great name for a bass player in a punk band.

"I wish there had been a hearing," Lieberman said Friday, and recalled how he wanted more scrutiny of the new FEMA head before he took office.

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Ol' Joe ain't playin' the 'blame game'.

Why not send this thread to the authorities?

You have all the proper questions and answers and they don't.

Why not send this thread to the authorities?

You have all the proper questions and answers and they don't.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 03:41 PM

Which authorities? Don't trust any right now.

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 03:24 PM

Can you see the steam comming out of my ears?

How about the blaring train whistle?

This is what bothers me most about the Democrats, they just roll over for BushCo Inc!

Jeeez Loueeze.

Grrrrrrr...

Didn't anybody check this guy out?

Why not?

Ah, I gotta get some work done.

Does anyone wonder if Bush comprehended what he was reading on 9/11? My Pet Goat may have been too deep for him, and that's why he was caught gazing into the wilderness.

9/11 and the Sport of God
By Bill Moyers
Commondreams.org

Friday 09 September 2005

This article is adapted from Bill Moyer's address this week at Union Theological Seminary in New York, where Judith and Bill Moyers received the seminary's highest award, the Union Medal, for their contributions to faith and reason in America.

At the Central Baptist Church in Marshall, Texas, where I was baptized in the faith, we believed in a free church in a free state. I still do.

My spiritual forbears did not take kindly to living under theocrats who embraced religious liberty for themselves but denied it to others. "Forced worship stinks in God's nostrils," thundered the dissenter Roger Williams as he was banished from Massachusetts for denying Puritan authority over his conscience. Baptists there were a "pitiful negligible minority" but they were agitators for freedom and therefore denounced as "incendiaries of the commonwealth" for holding to their belief in that great democracy of faith - the priesthood of all believers. For refusing to pay tribute to the state religion they were fined, flogged, and exiled. In 1651 the Baptist Obadiah Holmes was given 30 stripes with a three-corded whip after he violated the law and took forbidden communion with another Baptist in Lynn, Massachusetts. His friends offered to pay his fine for his release but he refused. They offered him strong drink to anesthetize the pain of the flogging. Again he refused. It is the love of liberty, he said, "that must free the soul."

Such revolutionary ideas made the new nation with its Constitution and Bill of Rights "a haven for the cause of conscience." No longer could magistrates order citizens to support churches they did not attend and recite creeds that they did not believe. No longer would "the loathsome combination of church and state" - as Thomas Jefferson described it - be the settled order. Unlike the Old World that had been wracked with religious wars and persecution, the government of America would take no sides in the religious free-for-all that liberty would make possible and politics would make inevitable. The First Amendment neither inculcates religion no

"I think it's essentially a difference in degree of the amount of acceptable governmental interference in the private lives of citizens wherein libertarians are in favor of less interference."

Government by the people, for the people and of the people...

When governemnt is populated by a self interested elite then it goes bad.

When governemnt stops working for the interests of all the people then it goes bad.

Shall we have a tyranny of the majority or a tyranny of the minority?

The tipping point is always the rights of the many over the few and the rights of the few over the many...

No system yet devised has accomplished it although we were close...

Too little attention was paid to installing mechanisms to limit governmental abuse...

The tipping point in my mind was the granting of the presidency exceptional powers under the war powers act...immense foolishness that.

There are no authorities.

Then who is he talking to?

Send it to a newspaper.

Everyone here knows already.

Ah, I gotta get some work done.

Posted by: Dream Logic at September 11, 2005 03:45 PM

lieberman is NOT a real democrat!

I am.

The First Amendment neither inculcates religion nor inoculates against it. Americans could be loyal to the Constitution without being hostile to God, or they could pay no heed to God without fear of being mugged by an official God Squad. It has been a remarkable arrangement that guaranteed "soul freedom."

It is at risk now, and the fourth observance of the terrorist attacks of 9/11 is an appropriate time to think about it.

Four years ago this week, the poet's prophetic metaphor became real again and "the great dark birds of history" plunged into our lives.

They came in the name of God. They came bent on murder and martyrdom. It was as if they rode to earth on the fierce breath of Allah himself, for the sacred scriptures that had nurtured these murderous young men are steeped in images of a violent and vengeful God who wills life for the faithful and horrific torment for unbelievers.

LINK

I learned that from the Reagan experts.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 11, 2005 03:33 PM

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James Watt (he's on second).

An excellent article appeared in Playboy magazine circa the early Eighties in which he glibly noted that with a shovel one might dig a shallow hole, cover it with a discarded door, cover the door with dirt, and survive a nuclear blast cozily ensconced beneath it all.

No clues were given as to:

Who remains outside to cover the door?

How to know when to enter the hole and bury oneself?

What awaits you upon your re-entry into the above-ground atmosphere?

There were plenty more unanswered questions, but most intellegences had been sufficiently insulted upon contemplating the above three.

[writes...thou shalt not annoy anonymouses]

[laughs and then deletes it]

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2005 03:53 PM

saves em burial details

According to research that I cannot track (read it a while ago) the people most probable to use violence and oppression against women are narcissists, not people with normal views on their own value or people with low self-esteem.

Why this comment? A line of argumentation from JG is that the US leadership hates the inclusive narratives of the liberal and progressive movement. The research above points rather to the fact that the current leadership is narcissistic, viewing themselves as more worth than everyone else and thus allowed to break whatever rules that exists.

I think that the leadership of US is stuck in a narcissistic personae that needs collective treatment - and during the treatment they should not be in a position to make any damage.

Can you not in the US demand re-elections based on insanity plea?

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there is no such thing as global warming...really...I'm not kidding...stop laughing at me damn it...

Olives and bananas thrive among the heather in warming Scotland

They have long been known for their luxuriant thistles, abundant heather and the most aggressive midges in northern Europe. But a more exotic future lies in wait for Scottish gardens, according to a major study by plant experts.

Banana trees, olives and other heat-loving species can now survive as far north as Glasgow, they have concluded - further evidence that our climate is slowly but perceptibly getting warmer.

It is a long way from the Victorian era - the period when Britain's taste for exotic plants took hold. Then, wealthy plant collectors built high-roofed glasshouses so their most prized palms could escape the cold winds, frosts and snow of winter.

[writes...thou shalt not annoy anonymouses]

[laughs and then deletes it]

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 03:53 PM

Ever wonder why you have the most posts?

Need to go make dinner.

Later!!

Ever wonder why you have the most posts?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 03:58 PM

because you can't post while I'm posting?

or is it merely because I'm the busiest?

neuroscience gone bad...

They don't just want your money. They want your brain

Neuromarketing is the new technique being developed by big companies to see if their products 'light up' your brain

It has been described as the Holy Grail of marketing, and soon companies may be queuing up to invest in a process that allows them to get inside the minds of consumers - almost literally.

oh and anonymouse...while you're trying to figure out another way to get rid of me...do count how many of the others posts are in response to my "unwanted" posts...

and while you're at that I'll imagine a giant hand reaching out of the sky and pinching your silly head right off.

Neuromarketing is not news.

If you want to see my brain light up while I view a razor or a soda pop or a fast food product, put tits on it.

putting tits on it isn't news either...notice the front bumpers of most 50's cars...sexy.

However neuromarketting using MRI imagining is fairly unknown...

imaging...imagining...freudian?

BOB GELDOF CRITICIZED OVER G8 MEETING

From an article by George Monbiot:

"We are very critical of what Bob Geldof did during the G8 Summit", Demba Moussa Dembele of the African Forum on Alternatives tells me. "He did it for his self-promotion. This is why he marginalized African singers, putting the limelight on himself and Bono, rather than on the issues. … The objectives of the whole Live8 campaign had little to do with poverty reduction in Africa. It was a scheme intended to project Geldof and Blair as humanitarian figures coming to the rescue of "poor and helpless" Africans."(15)

"Right from the beginning," says Kofi Mawuli Klu of the Forum of African Human Rights Defenders, "he has acted in his own selfish interests. It was all about self-promotion, about usurping the place of Africans. His message was "shut up and watch me". Without even understanding the root causes of the problems, he used his role to drown the voices of the African people and replace them with his own. There are many knowledgeable people – African and non-African – who could have advised him, but he has been on his own, ego-tripping."(16)

Read on here...

The invisible hand?...

Government Intervention in Stock Market is Detailed by New Report, GATA Says

A major Canadian financial management firm that a year ago published a compilation of evidence of central bank manipulation of the gold price has just done the same in regard to the U.S. stock market and has reached a similar conclusion.

The new report is titled "Move Over, Adam Smith: The Visible Hand of Uncle Sam," and has been published by Sprott Asset Management of Toronto. It was written by the firm's president, John P. Embry, and his assistant, Andrew Hepburn, and concludes that the U.S. government has intervened to support the stock market so many times that "what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market."

"It is time that market participants, the media and, most of all, the government acknowledge what should be blatantly obvious to anyone who reviews the public record on the matter: These markets have been interfered with on numerous occasions. Our primary concern is that what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market.

"In addition to creating a privileged class, the manipulation also has little democratic legitimacy in the sense that the citizenry has not given its consent. This has tangible ramifications. By not informing the public, successive U.S. administrations have employed a dangerous policy response that is subject to the worst possible abuse. In this regard, the line between national necessity and political expediency has no doubt been perilously blurred.

MRI imaging can be found in the Dept. of Redundancy Department.

so says you

There were plenty more unanswered questions, but most intellegences had been sufficiently insulted upon contemplating the above three.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2005 03:53 PM

This kind of stupidity proves to me that there isn't a god. Although I do believe there is enough evidence to support the existense of Satan.

Iran takes over Pipelineistan

As a key energy supplier to China as well as India's major supplier, Iran is in an enviable position. Further, its trans-Caspian alliance with Russia is iron-clad, and Tehran is well poised as a key supplier to Western Europe. Iran has the foundation to become a major economic power.

Iran takes over Pipelineistan

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 04:29 PM

This is why Doofus supports a 50 megaton nuke on Iran.

This kind of stupidity proves to me that there isn't a god.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 11, 2005 04:25 PM

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...or intelligent life in the universe.

In my haste, I neglected to note one of the best questions that followed Mr. Watt's statements:

Who digs you out of the hole?

If you want to see my brain light up while I view a razor or a soda pop or a fast food product, put tits on it.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2005 04:06 PM

Why ... no. It doesn't have a transmission or an engine. Is that a problem??

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 04:48 PM

Whoops! Me .. sorry!

China frees imprisoned American

BEIJING China released an American businessman held for more than three months on charges of spying for Taiwan, the businessman said Sunday.

Xie Chunren, a Chinese-born health supplements supplier, said he was released on Sept. 4 and returned to his home in Somerset, New Jersey, four days later

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 04:48 PM

wow, what a sexy car that is, wil!! I wish that woman wasn't in the way.

Our Wiki, katrinahelp.info lists volunteers who offer their skills.

If you have somethng to offer, just follow the links and post what you can do.

We don't need volunteers (unles you want to help us from you home at the on-line effort), we just list who is available when they write us.

You can look around the wiki and see if anyone needs your skills, also.

Thanks

wow, what a sexy car that is, wil!! I wish that woman wasn't in the way.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 11, 2005 04:56 PM

terrible make up job too...looks like someone punched her...

Sexy and environmentally friendly?

AC Propulsion’s tZero: World’s Fastest Electric Production Car

AC Propulsion’s tZero is likely the first electric-powered car in production that could punk a Ferrari F355. With its 200hp, and a vertical torque “curve” (love those electric motors) that launches the featherweight from zero to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds, the tZero certainly performs like a supercar.

In brief, the Brits — like Americans — have a legitimate need for the supplements that the globalist nutrition Nazis would forbid. And health-conscious citizens of the United States, like their counterparts living in the European Union, may soon find nutritional decisions being taken out of their hands.

Like the North American Free Trade Agreement and the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas, the recently enacted Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) contains a provision called the “Sanitary Phytosanitary Measures Agreement.” This section would require all signatory nations to “harmonize” their domestic food safety standards to those issued by the Codex Commission.

By enacting CAFTA, Congress has set the stage for nullification of DSHEA, the 1994 measure protecting a key element of health freedom — the right to consume vital nutritional supplements. CAFTA enhances the power of the WTO to enforce the decrees of the Codex Commission, thereby allowing UN-employed bureaucrats to decide what vitamins people can take — in effect, dictating to us how we will take care of our physical health.

Mister Crank Bait .. would you buy our new plastic cutting board??

Or .....

Perhaps we could entice you into drinking more OJ??

Don't really wanna sell you anything .. just thought it was goddamned funny!!!

You can look around the wiki and see if anyone needs your skills, also.

Thanks

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 04:56 PM

SORRY WE'RE BUSY

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New on Fox this Fall!!! WHEN FOOD GOES BAD!!!!!!

Ya guys .. I know .. she wasn't terribly pretty .... but the picture loaded huge .. I was going for big! Kinda upfront in your face kinda thing .. ya know .. like an advertiser...!! ; )

SORRY WE'RE BUSY

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Posted by: ALL TALK NO ACTION at September 11, 2005 05:04 PM

Sounds more like what Katrina Victims heard when calling FEMA.

perspectives

Posted by: ALL TALK NO ACTION at September 11, 2005 05:04 PM

Why are YOU still here?

Wow .. I had no idea that they got electricity back online to lower Manhattan in only 8 days. Imagine that .. and all the lines being burnt and underground. I bet it would have been easier to restore sooner if they were above ground.

Wonder where something like that has occurred recently? OH yes!!! LA, AL and MS .. hum .. but .. do they have power yet???

http://www.historyoftheuniverse.com/

http://www.broaduniverse.org/

Broad Universe is an international organization with the primary goal of promoting science fiction, fantasy, and horror written by women.

Wonder where something like that has occurred recently? OH yes!!! LA, AL and MS .. hum .. but .. do they have power yet???

Posted by: Wil at September 11, 2005 05:12 PM

mississipi "mostly" has power back and in New Orleans a few lights are on...

The Antimatter Factory

by Django Manglunki

Over the past 20 years scientists at CERN have been using antiparticles in many different ways for their daily work.
Antiparticles can be generated by colliding subatomic particles. Before being delivered to the various physics experiments, they must be isolated, collected and stored in order to tune their energy to the appropriate level.

Until now, each of these steps has been carried out by a dedicated machine with the main purpose of providing high energy antiparticles.

But now the first "self-contained antiproton factory", the Antiproton Decelerator (or AD), is operational at CERN . It will produce the low energy antiprotons needed for a range of studies, including the synthesis of antihydrogen atoms - the creation of antimatter.

k well I'm out for a while...later folks ;)

See ya later Nobody! I wish they had everyone back online by now! : /

Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown Dies: Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a 50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.

The confirmed death toll in Louisiana stood at 154 people, including some patients on life support who died when power went out, but the toll was expected to climb as crews collected bodies trapped in houses and floating in murky water. Police and military officials have been marking the location of bodies with global positioning devices and paint on the outside of houses.

............................................................................................

This same story and same body count has been in
circulation for three days now.

154 looks to be the magic number. I'll have to play it in the Pick Three tomorrow night.

JAZZ IS DEAD

NBC's Williams: Journalists' Gloves Off: NBC's Brian Williams says the lasting legacy of Hurricane Katrina for journalists may be the end of an unusual four-year period of deference to people in power.

There were so many angry, even incredulous, questions put to Bush administration officials about the response to Katrina that the Salon Web site compiled a "Reporters Gone Wild" video clip. Tim Russert, Anderson Cooper, Ted Koppel and Shepard Smith were among the stars.

The mute button seemingly in place since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks has been turned off.

Well... we can certainly hope it stays off and they continue to grill these pukes - Repooh and Dem - and hold them ALL accountable.

http://www.geocities.com/captainosmoteria/Mysteriousworld.html

Poll: Bush approval at 39 percent ... I know it has been posted before .. I just wanted to do it again!

I would assume that this will not get better anytime soon ... I mean .. did we really need wait for TSA to backround check evacuees prior to letting them leave New Orleans?

New Scientist Special Report on the Nuclear Age

New Orleans Airport to Reopen for Commercial Flights

Uh .... but I thought we were worried about terrorism??

SO WHILE WE WITNESSED "THE DROWNING OF THE NEGROES"

CONDI WENT TO SPAMALOT AND THEN TO FERRAGAMO'S

TO BUY A NEW SET OF FUCK-ME PUMPS

TO IMPRESS HER "HUSBAND"

...WHILE SHE SUCKS HIS DICK AND GETS CUM UP HER NOSE

Iran Threatens Consequences If Its Case Goes to U.N. Council: Iran said today that it would not suspend its nuclear activities and contended that there would be serious consequences if its case were sent to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions. The comments came as Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, prepared to travel to New York to address the United Nation General Assembly [As "Bitches," no doubt] on Wednesday at its opening summit meeting.

Why are YOU still here?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2005 05:08 PM

Sound familiar?

What about Clinton?

Families Mark 9/11 With Solemn Remembrances,

asshats celebrate with Clint Black.

ABC News gets videotape of man verbally threatening LA, Australia: A tape delivered to ABC News in Pakistan this weekend features a masked man making terrorist threats against Los Angeles and Australia.

ABC News reported that the man is believed to be Adam Yahiye Gadahn, an American from California purported to be an al-Qaida member and wanted by the FBI. The CIA said Sunday it was aware of the report but had no immediate comment about the tape's authenticity.

'Dirty Bomb' Suspect Loses Round

Families Mark 9/11 With Solemn Remembrances,

asshats celebrate with Clint Black.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 05:59 PM

Clint Black

Equals Douche

Business Forum: Outsourcing is blowing our IT lead: American high-tech industries are threatened by offshore outsourcing -- but don't blame the Indians or the Chinese. We are our own worst enemy.

The United States still leads the world in software development and aviation and in most high-technology fields. But the current practices of industry, supported by government policies, are rapidly blowing our lead. And nothing illustrates this more than the headlong rush to outsource information technology (IT).

America has the largest pool of experienced software engineers in the world, but the American IT industry, fixated on next quarter's profit margin, is investing less money in R&D than ever before. And when it invests, it does so overseas. Political leaders swept away by their compulsion for good poll numbers, cut away at the educational foundation of our future technology base so they can keep cutting taxes.

Another year older? Don't be blue! My boobies do a dance for you!

Okay, I'm late... but best wishes to you, Wil!

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 06:10 PM

Arrrgh! That was me.

Front Page : Breaking News

More Than 800,000 Evacuated as Typhoon Khanun
Slams into East China

More than 800,000 people were evacuated from their homes in China's eastern province of Zhejiang as Typhoon Khanun hit the region.

Sep 11, 2005, 11:24

Another year older? Don't be blue! My boobies do a dance for you!

Okay, I'm late... but best wishes to you, Wil!

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 06:10 PM

Thank you, Cat Chew!!!

That was quite the 'tern' of phrase there!! ; )

;)

Posted by: Paper Boy at September 11, 2005 06:12 PM

Hum .... maybe they get alot of typhoons there?? Not like we have regions in this country where that happens .. right! : /

Vice premier condoles with local people of typhoon hit areas

www.chinaview.cn 2005-09-11 21:21:49

BEIJING, Sept. 11 (Xinhuanet) -- Chinese Vice Premier Hui Liangyu voiced deep sympathy and solicitude for local people of the disaster-ridden areas in east China's Zhejiang province, which was ravaged by typhoon time and again in the last 43 days.

Khanun, the 15th typhoon of the year, is landing at Zhejiang, in the wake of Haitang, Matsa, and Talim.

Hui Liangyu, who is also director of the State Flood Control and Drought Relief Headquarters, trekked to the coastal areas of Zhejiang province for a direct relief operation, during which he unbosomed profound sympathy to locals on behalf of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee and the State Council, or the Chinese central government, from last Thursday to Sunday.

"The Party and the government are affectionate to the people though typhoon and other calamities are merciless," Hui acknowledged. "We hope you will resume your work and rebuild your homes in a high morale as soon as possible."

He also commended the soldiers of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, who are braced for battling the incoming typhoon.

Moreover, he called on the local government departments to make ample preparation, ensure the citizens' basic lives, rush-repair the infrastructure facilities destroyed by typhoon and guarantee the routine works.

Meanwhile, Hui underscored the security of reservoirs, the control of ensuing disasters and the establishment of an early-warning system. Enditem

N.C. Governor Evacuates Island on Outer Banks

Ryan Burrow - Chicago

The governor of North Carolina has issued a mandatory evacuation of Ocracoke Island, along the Outer Banks.

Ophelia stands about 200 miles from the coast of the Carolinas, and has not show which path it will take.

Already 200 National Guard soldiers have been called into staging areas in the eastern potion of the state. The beaches of Wilmington have also been cleared.

Opheilia is packing 80 mile an hour winds, and if it does take a turn to the U.S. coast, it will likely hit Monday morning.

Why does nature hate our freedom?!?!

Why does nature hate our freedom?!?!

Posted by: Q! ! ! !Q

Because we abuse it. Too much freedom can really screw up nature, dontcha know.

Posted by: Prowse at September 11, 2005 06:37 PM

We Suck!

The Boy Who Saw True: The Time-honoured Classic Of The Paranormal

Building of Solomon's Temple In Jerusalem.

We made love in my Chevy van and that's allright with me.

% PM EDT Ophelia Update from NHC

Current 3 - Day impact projection from NHC

If Ophelia were the size of Hugo or Opal or Katrina and sat off-shore for several days like it has, hoo-boy!

That would be one for the record books.

We Suck!

Posted by: IMHO

I know, huh?

The question might be why do we fear and disdain nature so much that we don't want to understand it and make a more concerted effort to work with it rather than trying to avoid, loot, plunder, conquer, and destroy (etc.) it.

We won't get better answers until we ask better questions.

We Suck!

Posted by: IMHO

Everyone sucks sometime... us, mainly now.

We're America

We fight evil

We don't live in accord with nature

Thank God it didn't move West into the Gulf ... it would be alot worse than a One right now.

All I want is Black Bean Soup

And you

To make it with me

Castro’s hurricane response far superior to Bush’s

bush

sucks

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan
A Martin Scorsese Picture

DOCUMENTARY PORTRAIT WILL AIR ON PBS'S AMERICAN MASTERS SERIES SEPTEMBER 26-27 (check local listings)

The United States is now in a world war against nature.

All of nature around us is now enemy territory.

You may think I'm joking, but this is how far gone the neocons and madcap industrialists are. It's been this way for, ummm, a few hundred years.

The Bush Court- another disaster awaiting America
Bush has the opportunity to pack the court with like-minded justices who will interpret the law as they see fit. The long ideological war between the republicans and democrats soon will be decided in the senate.
The Bush Court will be in a position to reverse years of law and legislation and will do so for years to come .Senate confirmation of John Roberts appears likely. Another Bush selection is soon to come.
Question is will Chief Justice John Robert`s Court be a Supreme Court of the 21th century or the 19th century ? To Bush and the right wingnuts, the 20th century was a judicial mistake altogether beginning with F.D.R.
Whatever - we can expect the Bush Court overtime to be another Bush disaster for millions of Americans.
Bush owes a lot to the U. S. Supreme Court. The Rehnquist Court took the Presidency away from Gore and gave it to Bush by saying the people had no legal right to vote for a president. The same court said its legal for your local government to take your property and build a Wal-mart if they want to. Kiss your rights goodbye with a Bush Court for sure.

We won't get better answers until we ask better questions.

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 11, 2005 06:46 PM

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How come James Dobson doesn't have to be back in his coffin before sunrise?

bush

sucks

Posted by: occam's razor

No. Shit.

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan A Martin Scorsese Picture

DOCUMENTARY PORTRAIT WILL AIR ON PBS'S AMERICAN MASTERS SERIES SEPTEMBER 26-27 (check local listings)

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 11, 2005 07:00 PM

WOW!! I'm going to email wanda about this!

Folks, prepared yourself for another disaster-a deliberate one. Bush and the Republicans are working hard to send millions of us straight to the old poor-house to live under the ownership of the super-rich.

Bush and the Republicans are running massive record deficits over 600 billion a years by true accounts. At the same time they are borrowing billions, they are taking billions from social security surpluses, and billions from foreign governments to keep the government running. They are spending billions in Iraq and now billions as they should spend rebuilding from the hurricane Katrina disaster.

Even after the latest disasters news reports say they plan to continue cuts in social programs. News reports say they have delayed but plan more tax cuts that will mostly help the rich.

They are deliberately, with massive tax cuts driving our government into a bankrupt situation where they can force massive reductions in all government programs to the eventual point where they can eliminate them all. This has been their long time goal since Reagan`s presidency and now Bush intents to finish the job Reagan and his father and the Republicans Party long wanted.

Folks, this is their true ideology. Hear it from one of their own, Grover Norquist, May 25, 2001, " I don`t want to abolish governemnt. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the Bathroom and drown it. "

LOOK---first thing Bush did was to suspend the minimum wage laws since 1931 in the disaster region. Cheap-slave wages for Halliburton and friends with their billions in government contracts.---THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. Wake-up America.

Amazing Things Done By Katrina:

#23---Made the hero Bush into a pariah and the pariah WalMart into a hero.

"looting" vs. "finding"

http://www.blackvoicenews.com/gallery2/d/12-1/katrina00.jpg

Nope.. no racial problems here...

hey Air America Phoenix!!!

Way good job keeping tabs on how the people from
New Orleans are being treated here!!!

THANK YOU!!! :)

Folks, prepared yourself for another disaster-a deliberate one. Bush and the Republicans are working hard to send millions of us straight to the old poor-house to live under the ownership of the super-rich.

Bush and the Republicans are running massive record deficits over 600 billion a years by true accounts. At the same time they are borrowing billions, they are taking billions from social security surpluses, and billions from foreign governments to keep the government running. They are spending billions in Iraq and now billions as they should spend rebuilding from the hurricane Katrina disaster.

Even after the latest disasters news reports say they plan to continue cuts in social programs. News reports say they have delayed but plan more tax cuts that will mostly help the rich.

They are deliberately, with massive tax cuts driving our government into a bankrupt situation where they can force massive reductions in all government programs to the eventual point where they can eliminate them all. This has been their long time goal since Reagan`s presidency and now Bush intents to finish the job Reagan and his father and the Republicans Party long wanted.

Folks, this is their true ideology. Hear it from one of their own, Grover Norquist, May 25, 2001, " I don`t want to abolish governemnt. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the Bathroom and drown it. "

LOOK---first thing Bush did was to suspend the minimum wage laws since 1931 in the disaster region. Cheap-slave wages for Halliburton and friends with their billions in government contracts.---THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. Wake-up America.

Posted by: Redeagle1

Well, that sucks.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2005 07:03 PM

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 11, 2005 07:04 PM

:)

I loves them that make me feel better about the human condition. Where there is smartie pants life, there is hope!

http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/current/superior.htm

Castro’s hurricane response far superior to Bush’s

Posted by: Cat Chew trying to drive a lurking troll or two batshit at September 11, 2005 06:56 PM

heya catchew!

That's a great article. thanks

Dadalux is in the building. Hiya!

Good Afternoon! :)

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MISHLOVE: I would think that would be quite contrary to an earlier idea that mythology is pretty much the product of fantasy or imagination.

CAMPBELL: Fantasy and imagination is a product of the body. The energies that bring forth the fantasies derive from the organs of the body. The organs of the body are the source of our life, and of our intentions for life, and they conflict with each other. Among these organs, of course, is the brain. And then you must think of the various impulses that dominate our life system -- the erotic impulse; the impulse to conquer, conquest and all that; self preservation; and then certain thoughts that have to do with ideals and things that are held up before us as aims worth living for and giving life its value and so forth. All of these different forces come into conflict within us. And the function of mythological imagery is to harmonize them, coordinate the energies of our body, so that we will live a harmonious and fruitful life in accord with our society, and with the new mystery that emerges with every new human being -- namely, what are the possibilities of this particular human life? And mythology has to do with guiding us --first, in relation to the society and the whole world of nature, which is outside of us but also within us, because the organs of our body are of nature; and then also, the guiding of the individual through the inevitable stages of life, from childhood to maturity, and then on to the last gate. And this is concerned with those matters.

MISHLOVE: So in a sense, behind every fantasy, behind every mythological story, there is some type of deeper truth about life.

CAMPBELL: Well, yes. A mythology is not just the fantasy of this, that, or another person; it's a systematized organization of fantasies in relation to the values of a given social order. So that mythologies always derive from specific social environments. And when you realize that every one of the early civilizations was based on a mythology, you can realize the force of this great, great heritage that we have.

Dammit.

I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see,

I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.

When I kill all the whities I see, then whitey he won't bother me,

I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.

Then I'll get a white woman who's wearing a navy blue sweater.

Dark and lonely on a summer's night

Kill my landlord

Kill my landlord

Watchdog barking

Do he bite?

Kill my landlord

Kill my landlord

Slip in his window

Break his neck

Then his house

I start to wreck

Got no reason

What the heck

Kill my Landlord

Kill my landlord

C-I-L-L

my l a n d l o r d

Oh boy a troll. How droll :)

Dammit.

Posted by: Shell at September 11, 2005 07:18 PM

Such language, young lady!!!

Remembering 9/11/01:

Could've been worse.

Remembering 9/11/01:

Could've been worse.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2005 07:23 PM

Could've been prevented altogether.

Dark and lonely on a summer's night

Kill my landlord

Kill my landlord

Watchdog barking

Do he bite?

Kill my landlord

Kill my landlord

Slip in his window

Break his neck

Then his house

I start to wreck

Got no reason

What the heck

Kill my Landlord

Kill my landlord

C-I-L-L

my l a n d l o r d

Posted by: K. WEST at September 11, 2005 07:22 PM

Somebody has anger problems.

And when you realize that every one of the early civilizations was based on a mythology, you can realize the force of this great, great heritage that we have.

Posted by: Shell at September 11, 2005 07:17 PM

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...as exemplified by horny Zeus disguising himself as an amorous swan for a night of earth-bound nookie.

Who could have known the terrorists would have
attacked us? (fbi)

Who could have known the levee would break?
(the LA governor and every city architect this side of the equator. some of them made a movie
about it.)

I'm gonna get me a SVU and consume all the mass quantities I see,

I'm gonna get me a RV and consume all the mass quantities I see,

I'm gonna get me a hot tub and consume all the mass quantities I see,

When I kill the environment I see, then momma nature, she won't bother me.

Then I'll get me a white mushy loaf of bread and eat it daintily.

~~~Poop (War) Doggy Dog

This is one of my favorite threads yet. I've been reading tons of info on and off all day.

If it weren't for rustles ignorant rambling about anarchy, it would be perfect..

hee hee!

Thanks blog!

"This is one of my favorite threads yet."

I bookmarked it earlier, myself. It's ALIVE!!!

KITTY ALERT

I got word 200 kitties from Katrina hurricane rescue are now in a shelter in my area.

OK shell--how would you like to adopt a dozen cajun kitties!

My stomach is in knots today.

Dear America

As a friend of the family I can’t sit back and watch you do this to yourself without saying something. Consider this a long distance intervention.

Your man is no good. He treats you like crap, lies to you, abuses you, bullies you, exploits you, takes your money. As a friend I want to tell you that you deserve better. You deserve a person that treats you with respect, cares about your welfare, and your children’s welfare, but that’s not George and it never will be.

Do you tell yourself that he’ll stop, or that it won’t get worse? He won’t ever stop, every insult, injury and death he has caused are a line that once crossed will never be uncrossed. Forget the dream. You will never have the American dream with George. You have to forget about what might have been, what George might have been, and realise that at the end of the day you are what you do, and look at George’s track record.

Notice how he’s alienated all your friends? Who can blame them, they can’t understand why you stay with him when he treats you like shit and embarrasses you in front of everybody. The more his public behaviour overshadows yours, The more doubt creeps over them, they wonder if they knew you as well as they thought they did. You seem to have changed - if you condone his behaviour- and your silence can create the impression that you do. People are more inclined to take things at face value when they feel alienated. Your friends remember the good times you had together, the heroic battles you fought together, all of the intricate interweavings between their families and yours through time and space. Do you even recognise yourself anymore America? He is a drunken, coke-addled loser and he always will be, you should kick him out of your house today before he can destroy any more members of your family, your history, your culture, before he decimates your bank account so irretrievably that China and Saudi Arabia repossess all your stuff.

YOU CAN DO BETTER! You are an amazing country, beautiful, interesting, funny,

Read "America's Battered Wife Syndrome"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 7:31 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2005 7:33 PM

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