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September 13, 2005

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F.T.W.!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:06 PM

Impeach Them, Peaches 2005 (parody song of "Louisiana 1927")

What has happened down here is the ReButtlicken rectal winds have changed

They got their wars and they even got their ex-lover called Hussein

They want to fight for oil, and kill people for their crimes

Six feet of Guckert in the White House now all the time!

The Guckers rose all day

The levees broke one night

Some people got lost in the flood

and the FEMA director got fired for his poor handling of the plight

The government reacted too slow, oh, and the ReButtlickens keep giving their bullshit lines

Six feet of Guckert in the White House now all the time!

CHORUS:

Impeach them, Peaches!

Impeach them, Peaches!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!!

Impeach them, Peaches!

Impeach them, Peaches!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!!

resident Cheney came down

but they told him to go fuck himself

'cause you know that cracker only cares about his Halliburton wealth !

He's a skanky fat man who tries to act like he's in command

they came four days late 'cause they musta had their dicks in their hands !

Oh, Impeach them, Peaches!

Impeach them, Peaches!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!!

Impeach them, Peaches!

Impeach them, Peaches!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!

We can't let 'em wash us away !!!

Posted by: LeeP at September 13, 2005 10:06 PM

Hola Children of the blog!# How is things?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:07 PM

Let's face it folks, you can't pressure candidates and expect them to win elections.

If we're going to WIN in '06, the first thing we'll have to do is replicate our WINNING strategy from '04. Remember when we all agreed not to oppose the war in Iraq until Kerry was elected? That's the exact thing we have to do now. And that means:

NO CRITICISM OF DEMOCRAT PARTY CANDIDATES!

Vote first and THEN, like Sam Seder sez: "We'll hold their feet to the fire."

DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.

DON'T MAKE DEMANDS.

JUST VOTE TO WIN IN '06!

Posted by: Votes For Dems at September 13, 2005 10:07 PM

Posted by: Votes For Dems at September 13, 2005 10:07 PM

You're so full of shit...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:09 PM

You want a better strategy...get nonvoters to vote.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:10 PM

Jesse Ventura...nice guy...bad taste in clothes

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:11 PM

How the $%@#! are ya today!

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:11 PM

You're so full of shit...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:09 PM

Another funny one. I'm sure you don't really think your postings here will have a bearing on the direction of the Nation. Bottom line is that you post here because it gives you pleasure. If it didn't give you pleasure you wouldn't do it.

That's the only meaning it has.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:14 PM

That's the only meaning it has.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:14 PM

I've more influence than you'd like to believe

Otherwise you wouldn't be trying to talk me out of it

hahahaha

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:16 PM

Why would our mainstream media tell the truth to the people about what the Bush-Republican government does?

The media is run by giant corporations. They will naturally support the Bush-Republican agenda. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY.

The Hannity, O`Reilly, Limbaugh right wingnuts are making millions along with their bosses making millions while they work for media corporations making billions. They profit from the Bush-Republican tax cuts for the corporate rich. In other words, they are all taking care of each.

Difference between the two political parties. The Republican party is as tight as any mafia family. They follow the game plan also just like the communist party in the old Soviet Union. They follow the party line.

The Democratic Party is a party of the people. A wide diversity of free thinkers and critical thinkers.We are much more disorganized because we do not follow their communist type talking- points- party- line
-ways.

What we Democrats do need is leaders with stones who we can get behind to take on their well-funded,and well run propaganda machine and grip on our government. Where are these leaders ?

Posted by: Redeagle1 at September 13, 2005 10:18 PM

Charmaine Neville is a member of the third generation of New Orleans's legendary Neville musical family. She fronts the Charmaine Neville Band.


I was in my house when everything first started. When the hurricane came, it blew all the left side of my house off, and the water was coming in my house in torrents.

I had my neighbor, an elderly man, and myself, in the house with our dogs and cats, and we were trying to stay out of the water. But the water was coming in too fast. So we ended up having to leave the house.

We left the house and we went up on the roof of a school. I took a crowbar and I burst the door on the roof of the school to help people on the roof.

Later on we found a flat boat, and we went around the neighborhood in a flat boat getting people out of their houses and bringing them to the school.

We found all the food that we could and we cooked and we fed people. But then, things started getting really bad.

By the second day, the people that were there, that we were feeding and everything, we had no more food and no water. We had nothing, and other people were coming in our neighborhood. We were watching the helicopters going across the bridge and airlift other people out, but they would hover over us and tell us "Hi!" and that would be all. They wouldn't drop us any food or any water, or nothing.

Alligators were eating people. They had all kinds of stuff in the water. They had babies floating in the water.

We had to walk over hundreds of bodies of dead people. People that we tried to save from the hospices, from the hospitals and from the old-folks homes. I tried to get the police to help us, but I realized they were in the same straits we were. We rescued a lot of police officers in the flat boat from the 5th district police station. The guy who was in the boat, he rescued a lot of them and brought them to different places so they could be saved.

We understood that the police couldn't help us, but we couldn't understand why the National Guard and them couldn't help us, because we kept seeing them but they never would stop and help us.

Posted by: Lola at September 13, 2005 10:18 PM

Finally it got to be too much, I just took all of the people that I could. I had two old women in wheelchairs with no legs, that I rowed them from down there in that nightmare to the French Quarters, and I went back and got more people.

There were groups of us, there were about 24 of us, and we kept going back and forth and rescuing whoever we could get and bringing them to the French Quarter because we heard that there were phones in the French Quarter, and that there wasn't any water. And they were right, there were phones, but we couldn't get through to anyone.

I found some police officers. I told them that a lot of us women had been raped down there by guys, not from the neighborhood where we were, they were helping us to save people. But other men, and they came and they started raping women and they started killing, and I don't know who these people were. I'm not gonna tell you I know, because I don't.

But what I want people to understand is that, if we hadn't been left down there like the animals that they were treating us like, all of those things wouldn't have happened. People are trying to say that we stayed in that city because we wanted to be rioting and we wanted to do this and, we didn't have resources to get out, we had no way to leave.

When they gave the evacuation order, if we could've left, we would have left.

There are still thousands and thousands of people trapped in their homes in the downtown area. When we finally did get into the 9th ward, and not just in my neighborhood, but in other neighborhoods in the 9th ward, there were a lot of people still trapped down there... old people, young people, babies, pregnant women. I mean, nobody's helping them.

And I want people to realize that we did not stay in the city so we could steal and loot and commit crimes. A lot of those young men lost their minds because the helicopters would fly over us and they wouldn't stop. We would make SOS on the flashlights, we'd do everything, and it really did come to a point, where these young men were so frustrated that they did start shooting. They weren't trying to hit the helicopters, they figured maybe they weren't seeing. Maybe if they hear this gunfire th

Posted by: Lola at September 13, 2005 10:22 PM

Another funny one. I'm sure you don't really think your postings here will have a bearing on the direction of the Nation. Bottom line is that you post here because it gives you pleasure. If it didn't give you pleasure you wouldn't do it.

That's the only meaning it has.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:14 PM

What? You mean we aren't saving the world by
posting on this blog? I feel so...disapointed.#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:23 PM

OK. How about this then:

===================================

Let's face it folks, you can't put pressure on candidates and expect them to win elections.

If we're going to WIN in '06, the first thing we'll have to do is replicate our WINNING strategy from '04. Remember when we all agreed to not oppose the war in Iraq until AFTER Kerry was elected? That's the exact thing we have to do now. And that means this:

DO NOT CRITICIZE DEMOCRAT PARTY CANDIDATES!

Vote first and then, and ONLY then, like Sam Seder sez: "We'll hold their feet to the fire."

DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.

DON'T CRITICIZE.

JUST VOTE TO WIN IN '06!

Posted by: Votes For Dems at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:16 PM

Oh, I understand I influence you as an individual. I cause you to get upset, cuss, and carry on like a spoiled child. But in the big picture you, nor I, make a real impression. If you think you do then you are sick.

Does Karl Rove know who you are? Does Bush know who you are? Do any of the people around the White House know who you are? Do they really care?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

Maybe if they hear this gunfire they will stop then. But that didn't help us. Nothing like that helped us.

Finally, I got to Canal St. with all of my people I had saved from back there.

I don't want them arresting nobody else. I broke the window in an RTA bus. I never learned how to drive a bus in my life. I got in that bus. I loaded all of those people in wheelchairs and in everything else into that bus, and we drove and we drove and we drove and millions of people was trying to get me to help them to get on the bus, too.

Posted by: Lola at September 13, 2005 10:25 PM

i mean i googled "how to save the world" and i got this blog.#

maybe it was how to spam the world.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:25 PM

What? You mean we aren't saving the world by posting on this blog? I feel so...disapointed.#

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Had to laugh out loud on that... one of the funnier ones.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:26 PM

Do they really care?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

I would say they don't really care about anyone.
:) #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:27 PM

Posted by: Votes For Dems at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

still full of shit

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:28 PM

there's this really attractive, hot, young, married, hot, married, married asian babe....

Stalking me...?

How weird

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:20 PM

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Tell Mrs. Malkin that you'll tell on her if she keeps it up. Sue her for harassment.
--------------------

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2005 10:28 PM

any real changes made here will be personal. this is a good place to learn and to be intellectually active. we're a good news gathering crew with an international group of bloggers. the humor and friendship are bonuses...

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 13, 2005 10:29 PM

i mean i googled "how to save the world" and i got this blog.#

maybe it was how to spam the world.


Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:25 PM

If you aren't saving the world by blogging, you may as well just quit blogging.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:31 PM

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2005 10:32 PM

Oh, I understand I influence you as an individual. I cause you to get upset, cuss, and carry on like a spoiled child. But in the big picture you, nor I, make a real impression. If you think you do then you are sick.

Does Karl Rove know who you are? Does Bush know who you are? Do any of the people around the White House know who you are? Do they really care?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

You don't influence me much at all or in any meaningful way because of your inherent negativity and irrationality.

A thousand whispers is a shout and a million a roar...

Again your very attempt to silence me would speak more to your fear that I would have some effect rather than the reverse.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:32 PM

Sue her for harassment. --------------------

Posted by: Meg at September 13, 2005 10:28 PM

mmmmm - that's pretty good - keep it in mind

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:32 PM

still full of shit

Posted by: Nobody

Can't we give peace a chance? (Come on, don't make me sing it.)

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:34 PM

K.

You all have fun saving the world.

Mr.Bubble.. take me awaaaay...

:)

Posted by: ♥ at September 13, 2005 10:34 PM

If you aren't saving the world by blogging, you may as well just quit blogging.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:31 PM

im not trying to save the world. im here because
its the only place i have to discuss things that
bother me. and things bother me about the US lately. and this is not real blogging-DKOS and
Juan Cole are real bloggers. this is sort of a morale place for me. also, makes work fly by.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:35 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:32 PM

I have never considered silencing you. It is not I who posts; STFU

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:35 PM

Can't we give peace a chance? (Come on, don't make me sing it.)

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:34 PM

start singing...and do the little dance this time

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:37 PM

im not trying to save the world. im here because its the only place i have to discuss things that bother me. and things bother me about the US lately. and this is not real blogging-DKOS and Juan Cole are real bloggers. this is sort of a morale place for me. also, makes work fly by.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:35 PM


You're a world hater!!!

Posted by: heh heh at September 13, 2005 10:37 PM

I have never considered silencing you. It is not I who posts; STFU

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:35 PM

Yours is a softer way of saying the same thing...

But you see at least I'm above board in my assertions rather than playing at deception.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:38 PM

You're a world hater!!!

Posted by: heh heh at September 13, 2005 10:37 PM

no. i don't hate the world. i don't enough about
the world to hate it. i do know that the country
i live in is in serious trouble and it bothers
me that our ilegitimate government has gotten this far. for me to sit by and be ok with this
would require a frontal labotomy.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:41 PM

Where the hell is ono?

His "down under" band - INXS has some kinda show on CBS...

Never seen it before - not half bad...I suppose

Dave Navarro there too? weird

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:41 PM

when I was driving once I saw this painted on a bridge:

"I don't want to save the world, I just want to heal your half"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:42 PM

I don't want the world, I just want your half.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:43 PM

I know. Paraphrase 'n' license... Call back to earlier comments on blog.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:46 PM

mmmm N - how that paper coming?

Supposed to be 3-5 pages (if u just wanna write 3 - I understand - prolly get the same grade/credit regardless.

Anyhow!

I need to go to sleep pretty soon - and I have to print out 4 copies for class tomorrow....

so..."post haste" would be most appropriate...and btw - thanks again!!!!

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:46 PM

Where the hell is ono?///

He's still sleeping, getting ready to start the day.

Remember, he's down under and it's morning there.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 13, 2005 10:48 PM

so..."post haste" would be most appropriate...and btw - thanks again!!!!

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:46 PM

...his unusual habit of wearing his underwear on his head was much reviled amongst the other pool boys but amused the mistress to no end...He soon became her favorite and would often be called in late at night to help her with her baths...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:48 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:38 PM

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You wishfully think I would like to silence you. Therein you can also think that I place some stock in what you have to say. What you say is meaningless in the big picture, so I care not what you say.

On the other hand, I have concerns about what the TV media has to say, for they do have some impact and can alter public opinion to some degree.

Not only are you Nobody, you are Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:51 PM

Has anyone else noticed we've attracted a better class of trolls in the past few weeks?

Many are educated, well-spoken & -read, informed, sometimes even congenial, and versed in the "game."

And given that Sammer has seen fit to permit no-no-mouses, they can easily get away with some mischief.

Like I've said: Wouldn't it be really interesting to trace back the IP's to their origin?

Then trace back the accounts, the person or organization whose name they were under and who & how they were paid for.

THAT would be very interesting.

*

Mr./Ms. NSA person: that certainly wouldn't include you guys, though. *snark*

I'd be much more interested in the GOP (and front groups) & gov't addy's that came up.

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 13, 2005 10:52 PM

TOMORROW, HITCHENS-GALLOWAY DEBATE ON THE 'NET

The sparks will be flying tomorrow when Christopher Hitchens (left) debates British anti-war MP George Galloway (right) tomorrow on the Iraq war -- and this unusual piece of political theater will be audio-streamed live on the 'net on Wednesday night (September 14) from 7 pm - 10 pm Eastern Standard Time. To listen, click on either http://kpftx.org or http://www.thejourneyradio.org. If you miss it live, it will be archived on the KPFX website.

Posted by: Kevin at September 13, 2005 10:52 PM

Was Janeane being ironic? Bush not a racist bigot because of Condi? Yikes!

Bush is a bigot, Condoleeza Rice included!

Sociopaths EXPLOIT. Exploit any and everything.

Hey. Go get "Gone With The Wind" and squirm, trying to rationalize your understanding of slaveholders. Watch the scenes with blacks or "Mammie" numerous times. Give up your rationalizing. Moviemaker Selznick couldn't get a handle on it 70 years after the Civil War. And here it is nearly another 70 years since the movie and we can't get straight what racist bigotry is?! (I've often wondered if Selznick would have made a different sort of movie if he'd made "Gone With The Wind" after World War II and post war exposure of the Nazi slave labor camps and Jewish concentration camps....)

It's exploitation.

Posted by: nora at September 13, 2005 10:52 PM

start singing...and do the little dance this time

Posted by: Nobody

What am I your gimp? I only dance for money. (Kidding.) Singing? My vocals kill people. Their brains explode like the aliens in "Mars Attacks".

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:53 PM

Not only are you Nobody, you are Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:51 PM

--

We should start calling him Nothing!

Posted by: Ha Ha Ha at September 13, 2005 10:53 PM

Dear Friend,

While the citizens of America mobilize to help the victims of Katrina, the Bush administration is seeking a quick approval of John Roberts for Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Don’t let them off easy: Judge Roberts’s recent actions have raised serious ethical concerns that need to be addressed. Take a stand against the rubber stamp nomination by clicking here or pasting this url into your browser.
http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/ccr/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=1210

John Roberts applied for a job with the Bush administration while he was hearing a case in which members of the administration were defendants. He should have recused himself from the case. This is a clear conflict of interest and not the behavior of a future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. The Center for Constitutional Rights is asking all of its supporters to write their senators and tell them to hold John Roberts accountable for his actions and possible ethical lapses.

When John Roberts became a judge, he swore to be ethical in his decisions and actions on the bench. Roberts interviewing for a position on the Supreme Court while hearing the case Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, raises serious questions about his ability to live up to those standards. His ruling supported unlimited power for the White House to detain individuals and designate them enemy combatants without rights to due process and asserted that the Geneva Conventions were unenforceable in U.S. court. The very next week, President Bush nominated him to the Supreme Court. Please join CCR in writing your senators and demanding that John Roberts be held accountable for his actions during the Hamdan v. Rumsfeld case.

To read CCR’s testimony submitted to the Roberts confirmation hearings, click here.

To make a donation, click here.


Sincerely,
Ron Daniels
Executive Director, the Center for Constitutional Rights

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 10:53 PM

"Those brownies, are doing a heck of a job," the President said

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 10:53 PM

Not only are you Nobody, you are Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:51 PM

Of course your actions again speak louder than your words so to speak...

You don't care what I say and yet you spend much time trying to convince me that what I have to say is unimportant and then you quote a small phrase of some months ago...

It's stuck in your craw and you refuse to let it go...because it's unimportant and without influence?

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:54 PM

any real changes made here will be personal.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 13, 2005 10:29 PM

If we can understand the human condition as our condition, we can begin to understand what love really is. Otherwise, we'll depend on Nobody to show us the way. :)

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 13, 2005 10:55 PM

That was hilarious....

and I had to look up both the words reviled and hilarious ;)

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 10:55 PM

"Those brownies, are doing a heck of a job," the President said

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert

After eating the "speical" brownies that Dick Cheney gave him.

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:56 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:54 PM

---------

Are you beginning to catch on? I enjoy jerking your chain. Smile, boy.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 10:57 PM

Their brains explode like the aliens in "Mars Attacks".

Posted by: Prowse at September 13, 2005 10:53 PM

Dude...you think you could get into one of those bushy press conferences and bust out with a little medley?

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:58 PM

Are you beginning to catch on? I enjoy jerking your chain. Smile, boy.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:57 PM

And yet more proof that you're completely oblivious of how important my freecell record is.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:59 PM

So is Jugde Handsome going to get the nomination
or what? Any one have any predicitions? #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:00 PM

Wal-Mart to the Rescue!
LIZA FEATHERSTONE | For once, Wal-Mart is acting like a hero, with speedy delivery of water and supplies to Hurricane Katrina victims. If it could only act that way every day.


America's Imaginary Frontier
NORMAN BIRNBAUM | America's narcissism and willful blindness to its own moral failings have been placed in sharp relief as the the needs of storm victims.

The Nation | Unconventional Wisdom Since 1865

Bush Is Fooling Nobody Now

ROBERT SCHEER | Long fooled by the Bush image machine, Americans now understand that this Administration can only deliver spin, not substance; photo ops, not action.

Nobody Owns The Nation

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:00 PM

Hiya, Liberal-at-large. Speaking of no-no-mouse, I was the one with the "touché" and link to your most excellent Tradin' Card™ the other day. Oy! I'm a bit discombobulated, and I am sorry! :(

Posted by: Cat Chew (not so fucking creepy, I hope) at September 13, 2005 11:02 PM

Can Un-President and Commander 'n' Cheat Bush be sued in civil court (like they're suing the nursing home owners)?

Can we all sue Bush in our local courts for pain and suffering after having to watch his murderous acts of negligence in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast? Can we all sue Bush and his cabinet for destroying FEMA and putting incompetents in positions of authority? Can the relatives of the dead sue him and his administration?

I'm serious here! All across the nation!

Posted by: nora at September 13, 2005 11:02 PM

So is Jugde Handsome going to get the nomination or what? Any one have any predicitions? #

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:00 PM

Well now...there's some stirrings from the commitee...not quite the fire I'd like to see yet but it very well could build into a serious filibuster...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:03 PM

i love the monkey!!!!

Posted by: munky2me at September 13, 2005 11:04 PM

And yet more proof that you're completely oblivious of how important my freecell record is.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 10:59 PM

What a hoot. Important to whom?

I'm pretty good at Winmine. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:04 PM

Not only are you Nobody, you are Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 10:51 PM

We are a bunch of Nobodies and Nothings here. Including you. And Nobody gives a flying F*ck about your nothingness!!

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:05 PM

Short list

(the Tuesday moonshine blues club. A tribute to R.L Burnside. Note: hard blues/punk but up lifting.)

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"Goin' Down South" by R.L. Burnside

http://artist.amazon.com/burnsiderl

"Snake Drive" by R.L. Burnside

http://diddywah.blogspot.com/2005/09/in-heaven-sitting-down.html

"Highway A Go Go" by Zoobombs

http://theatreorgans.com/grounds/audio.html

"Fidel Castro" by skatalites

http://ska.by.ru/music//Skatalites/

"Won't Go Out" by Holly Golightly

http://www.epitonic.com/artists/hollygolightly.html

"Sweet Baby" by The Gossip

http://www.killrockstars.com/bands/factsheets/thegossip/

"After School Thunder" by Guitar Wolf

http://www.insound.com/mp3/searchmp3.cfm?searchby=G&searchtype=artist&startnum=61

"Fell In Love With A Girl" by The White Stripes

http://webjay.org/by/cherrybomb2202/cherrybomb5c27sfavoritesongs#3136887

"Hard Time Killing Floor" by R.L. Burnside

http://artist.amazon.com/burnsiderl

"I Got To Cross The River Jordan" by Blind Willie McTell

http://www.hutten.org/lsh/2005/09/i-got-to-cross-river-jordan.html

"Walkin' Blues" by R.L. Burnside

http://artist.amazon.com/burnsiderl

"After The Rain" by skata

Posted by: wanda at September 13, 2005 11:06 PM

Otherwise, we'll depend on Nobody to show us the way. :)

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 13, 2005 10:55 PM

Hahahahahahahaha!

(And I thought *I* caught some flak hereabouts.)

*

Im-Peaches, gang!

[Glad The Hottie remembered tonight. : ) ]

*crash*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 13, 2005 11:06 PM

REGARDING QUESTIONS FOR JOHN ROBERTS HEARING:

Has anyone asked Roberts his views on the presidential EXECUTIVE ORDER?!

Bush has already used it to destroy the Separation of Church & State. What's next? Social Security?

This needs to be asked!!!

Posted by: nora at September 13, 2005 11:06 PM

What a hoot. Important to whom?

I'm pretty good at Winmine. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:04 PM

Why it's downright crucial...like a butterflies flapping wings...and hurricanes on the other side of the world.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:07 PM

Posted by: nora at September 13, 2005 11:02 PM

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I bet they could be sued and I bet they will (unless they get Delay to tack some amendment on some bill that gets them off scot free).

Did you notice how he took "responsibility" for the response, but not the fact that he cut funding for the levees by 80%?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2005 11:07 PM

a philibuster would be cool. he called the constitution a doctrine and that is well, er, scary. it is a doctrine, i suppose. but its my
legal rights, not some foreign philosophy. this
guy is a neocon. #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:07 PM

We are a bunch of Nobodies and Nothings here.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:05 PM

Very well stated.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:08 PM

The Coburn Republican who cried almost got to me...

Until!


(how'd he make himself cry anyway?)

Posted by: Jon's Cheerleader at September 13, 2005 11:08 PM

I am Spartacus.

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 13, 2005 11:09 PM

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:05 PM

Naw...you're only as unimportant as you feel you are...don't allow another to degrade your value...each voice...each mind...each heart...each is beyond measure

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:09 PM

Very well stated.


Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:08 PM

You left out "even you!!" That was the part that was very well stated.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:11 PM

Asked about John Roberts, Jr his Nominee to be Chief Justice:


"Those brownies, are doing a heck of a job," the President said

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:11 PM

this guy is a neocon. #


Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:07 PM

virulent neocon...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:12 PM

John Nichols | Hurricane Halliburton
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091305S.shtml
Joe Allbaugh, the former director of the Federal Emergency Management
Agency, has a new job. He's lobbying for the Halliburton subsidiary in
Washington and elsewhere. Conveniently, Allbaugh showed up in Louisiana
on the day before Cheney's visit with the purpose, in the words of a
Washington Post report, of "helping his clients get business."

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:12 PM

Are there any fat, lonely girls on this blog? I am kind of a chubby chaser.

Posted by: Big Richard at September 13, 2005 11:13 PM

Are there any fat, lonely girls on this blog? I am kind of a chubby chaser.

Posted by: Big Richard at September 13, 2005 11:13 PM

You're looking for the right wing blogs...

try nicedoggy.net

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:14 PM

Virulent... like cooties?

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 13, 2005 11:15 PM

Virulent... like cooties?

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 13, 2005 11:15 PM

virulent as in the plague

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:16 PM

Roberts Being Evasive
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091305Q.shtml
At his Senate confirmation hearing Tuesday, Judge John Roberts deftly
sidestepped the volatile issue of abortion but acknowledged legal
precedence is "very important in promoting evenhandedness."

Now I wouldn't have called it "deftly". I would say he was allowed to sidestep the issue. It was a Republican asking the question. What a fix this was!!

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:16 PM

You left out "even you!!"

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:11 PM

I thought that would be obvious to the most casual observer.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:18 PM

I find liberal girls tend to run on the meaty side. I don't care about the face. It is all about ass. A nice round chubby ass!

Posted by: Big Richard at September 13, 2005 11:18 PM

Deja Vu...Where Colin and his vile of powder?

U.S. Deploys Slide Show to Press Case Against Iran


UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 13 -- With an hour-long slide show that blends satellite imagery with disquieting assumptions about Iran's nuclear energy program, Bush administration officials have been trying to convince allies that Tehran is on a fast track toward nuclear weapons.

The PowerPoint briefing, titled "A History of Concealment and Deception," has been presented to diplomats from more than a dozen countries. Intended to win allies for increasing pressure on the Iranian government, several diplomats said the presentation dismisses ambiguities in the evidence about Iran's intentions and omits alternative explanations under debate among intelligence analysts.

According to diplomats who have attended the briefings and U.S. officials who helped to assemble it, the presenters argue that the evidence leads solidly to a conclusion that Iran's nuclear program is aimed at producing weapons.

The president's direct involvement marks an escalation of a two-year effort to bring Iran before the U.N. Security Council, which has the power to impose sanctions, unless Tehran gives up technology capable of enriching uranium for a bomb.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:18 PM

Kurt Vonnegut on the Daily Show now.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:18 PM

Why it's downright crucial...like a butterflies flapping wings...and hurricanes on the other side of the world.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:07 PM

Oh, STFU. (:-)

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:19 PM

"This is not the time for finger pointing!"

Posted by: Venus de Milo at September 13, 2005 11:19 PM


forgot. note: the Tuesday moonshine blues club.

Warning: that list is not for faint hearted twang-twang singalong folks

Posted by: wanda at September 13, 2005 11:19 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

They actually differentiate between hetero and gay sex legal age of consent!

Kansas is 16.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:20 PM

Eleanor Smeal | Day One of the Roberts Hearings
http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/091305WA.shtml
Eleanor Smeal says that Roberts offered only "comforting buzz words" in
the first day of his confirmation hearings, reminiscent of past
nominees Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas whose words "later proved to be
empty promises to the Senate ... The Senate must not be fooled again."

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:20 PM

"Doped with religion, sex and TV...."

"Arise ye prisoners of starvation..."

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:21 PM

Had you ever had a fat girl doggie style?

Posted by: Big Richard at September 13, 2005 11:22 PM

PS:

Posted by: Cat Chew (not so fucking creepy, I hope)

No sweat...I thought it might have been a regular.

I get so fucking defensive over the no-no-mice sometimes.

It aggravates me that someone doesn't have the, well, you know, to pick a nic & stick with it.

Changing nics is no prob or like what crankie, sunny J & meg do...you can always ID them somehow. But being a plain "Anonymous" just rubs me the wrong way.

Guess I had a nametag sewn on me for too long. Then, EVERYONE took responibility for their own actions (& we often covered other's fuck-ups).

Sorry if I overreacted.

Good night, Chewbacca! *snark*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 13, 2005 11:22 PM

The Books of Bokonon

From Cat's Cradle

By Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

Edited by Eugene Wallingford

Posted by: M the L at September 13, 2005 11:22 PM

Oh, STFU. (:-)

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:19 PM

The opinion of an acquaintance spoken once has been shown to be as powerful as 1500 billboard views by advertizers...

Oh..I wish I woulda figured out the chimpanzee face it would've come in handy...

btw...are you handy?

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:23 PM

Well now...there's some stirrings from the commitee...not quite the fire I'd like to see yet but it very well could build into a serious filibuster...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:02 PM

More wishful thinking. I'm betting on no filibuster and close to 70 votes.. maybe more.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:23 PM

More wishful thinking. I'm betting on no filibuster and close to 70 votes.. maybe more.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:23 PM

you'd lose that bet ;)

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:25 PM

"This is not the time for finger pointing!"


Posted by: Venus de Milo at September 13, 2005 11:19 PM

Posted by: I love Venus! at September 13, 2005 11:25 PM

But you have to have the equipment. You have to have the reach. That is why the fat girls love me so much.

Posted by: Big Richard at September 13, 2005 11:26 PM

...or the reports of them being dynamited...

Mystery surrounds floodwall breaches


Could a structural flaw be to blame?

One of the central mysteries emerging in the Hurricane Katrina disaster is why concrete floodwalls in three canals breached during the storm, causing much of the catastrophic flooding, while earthen hurricane levees surrounding the city remained intact.

It probably will take months to investigate and make a conclusive determination about what happened, according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But two Louisiana State University scientists who have examined the breaches suggest that a structural flaw in the floodwalls might be to blame.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:27 PM

I thought that would be obvious to the most casual observer.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:18 PM

Not with the spin you put on things. Omiting words is a great neocon trick, along with spinning the meaning. I'll clarify if you don't mind and even if you do mind.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:28 PM

New Orleans

President leads Blackwater Mercenaries in the protection of private property.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:28 PM

VIETNAM SYNDROME?

AT THE TIME WE CALLED THE POST VIETNAM GOOD NEWS "CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING".

LET'S CALL THE RIGHTWING TALK RADIO/TV/THINKTANK REACTIONARY BLATHER "CONSCIOUSNESS LOWERING" BACKLASH!

Posted by: nora at September 13, 2005 11:28 PM

The opinion of an acquaintance spoken once has been shown to be as powerful as 1500 billboard views by advertizers...

Hmmmm - I would suggest even more
'

Word 'o mouth - very powerful indeed....also the opposit effect...with a trusted vendor.

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:29 PM

Blackwater?!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:29 PM

I'll clarify if you don't mind and even if you do mind.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:28 PM

Oh, how profound... like obvious to the most casual observer.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:31 PM

September 13, 2005
The Stalingrad Effect
Jackals and Jackasses
By WERTHER
The loss of Stalingrad was a disaster that hit the German nation like a thunderclap. A whole army of 300,000 was wiped out ? most of them killed or wounded, and 90,000 pitiful scarecrows taken prisoner. The entire southern sector of the Eastern Front was unhinged. The ominous rumble of Red Army artillery would creep towards Berlin at an average pace of two miles per day for the next two and one half years.

What was the response of the German leadership ? to admit the invasion of Russia was a mistake, to retrench, to save what could be saved? As the reader can surely guess, not at all. Redouble the effort. Show fanatical will. Stay the course, if you will. Don't cut and run. And alter history by defining failure as success.

Rather than as a colossal disaster in its own right, the government painted Stalingrad as a necessary sacrifice to avert a greater catastrophe: "Sie starben, damit Deutschland lebe!" (They died, that Germany might live!") screamed the headlines. [1] Fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here, as one of Rush Limbaugh's moronic flock might say.

counterpunch.org

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:31 PM

A Washington Post-ABC News Zogby/Pew-Gallup Poll
taken today, (Tues. Sept. 13th) shows that 63%
of American citizens are total, braindead
assholes.

The poll, released this afternoon, also revealed
that 73% of U.S. residents are fat fucking slobs
who could go three weeks without eating food and
not even notice it.

Posted by: A Beltway Insider at September 13, 2005 11:32 PM

btw...are you handy?

--------------

With a gun and a knife as well as other hand tools. Keep your tool cool, fool.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:32 PM

you'd lose that bet ;)

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:25 PM

mmmmm - I think i'd be willing to take that bet ;)

Course the "nuclear opttion" has to remain available......

And they will use it in this regard....

They'll also use it for O'Conner's replacement

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:34 PM

Blackwater?!

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:29 PM

the reports were that they were acoe...or locals under the mayor...depending on source...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:34 PM

Anoyone remember what that website was where you look up a name and it shows where they've been CEO's and what not; and how they 'connect' to others?

It was posted on the blog about the same time or maybe with opensecrets.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:35 PM

With a gun and a knife as well as other hand tools. Keep your tool cool, fool.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:32 PM

good because i've always wanted to come in handy.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:35 PM

Oh, how profound... like obvious to the most casual observer.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:31 PM

Who are ou trying to impress? Profound!

You are a first class twit. Take that as a compliment because that is probably the only thing you are first class at.

Posted by: toniD at September 13, 2005 11:36 PM

September 13, 2005
The Stalingrad Effect
Jackals and Jackasses
By WERTHER

.....

"The rationale was as follows: these are different times. The older generation that had grown up without television, as in the Truman and Nixon years, was gone. In its place is a public increasingly composed of two elements: Abysmally ignorant MTV-bred dolts whose bovine passivity dampens public outrage like a bucket of water on a smoldering match; and pseudo-religious halfwits who believe Stegosaurus trod the earth contemporaneously with homo sapiens sapiens, 6,000 years ago. These are the segments of society that prop up our rulers: one passive, one active."


.......

counterpunch.org

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:37 PM

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 13, 2005 11:39 PM

Blackwater USA CONTINUES TO SUPPORT KATRINA DEVASTED AREAS -
Aid Focuses on Humanitarian, Security and Clean Up Needs"

Funny, I don't see anything about their humanitarian training courses on the site...

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 13, 2005 11:39 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:35 PM

--------------

Keep on wanting. You may achieve someday. Smile

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:39 PM

And they will use it in this regard....

They'll also use it for O'Conner's replacement

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:34 PM

of course but that would incur an even more serious response...

I wouldn't mind seeing it heat up in washington not one little bit considering the mood of the country right now...

THe foot dragging till this point has been the worry of being caleld obstructionist...

thing is as more dems have been dipping their toes into that water they've seen their polls come back with positive motion...

In other words...obstructionist is exactly what the majority wants them to do and obstructionist is just going to sound like whining in this severly anti fed environment...

But then again...Why would the dems spend all this time looking like they weren't gonig to do anything and all the right wing saying aha..they won't?

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:40 PM

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_13.html#079207

Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Nagin offers residents early return to city
By Steve Ritea, Gordon Russell and James Varney
Staff writers

Unflooded portions of New Orleans may be opened up for residents to return, perhaps as early as Monday, Mayor Ray Nagin said in an upbeat and wide-ranging press conference Tuesday afternoon.

The possibility of repopulating areas of the city so quickly marked a stunning turnaround from earlier predictions that New Orleans could remain uninhabitable for months. Nagin said the final decision on the date would hinge on pending results of federal tests measuring the toxicity of the city’s air and water, but initial reports are turning out much better than expected.

“I’m starting to get into the mode of how do we re-open the city,” said Nagin, speaking from the steps of Washington Artillery Park in the French Quarter, one of four areas targeted for early reopening. The others are Algiers, the Central Business District and dry parts of Uptown. “We are out of nuclear crisis mode and are in to day-to-day crisis mode,” Nagin said.

Posted by: wanda at September 13, 2005 11:40 PM

"The president should stop haunting New Orleans, looking for that bullhorn moment. It's too late." -Maureen Dowd

Posted by: Kevin at September 13, 2005 11:41 PM

Keep on wanting. You may achieve someday. Smile

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:39 PM

you're awfully slow on the draw there champ...

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:41 PM

Part 1 (of 3)
How United States Intervention Against Venezuela Works
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005
By: Philip Agee
Part 1 of 3
Summary, CIA Electoral Interventions, and Nicaragua as a Model for Venezuela
Summary
It is no secret that the government of the United States is carrying out a program of operations in favor of the Venezuelan political opposition to remove President Hugo Chávez Frías and the coalition of parties that supports him from power.
......

How United States Intervention Against Venezuela Works, part 2 of 3
Use of a Private U.S. Corporate Structure to Disguise a Government Program
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005

By: Philip Agee
Part 1: How United States Intervention Against Venezuela Works
Part 2 of 3
C. Venezuela: Some Examples of the Current U.S. Intervention Against the Bolivarian Revolution
In Venezuela the administration of George W. Bush is intervening in the political process with a combination of activities very similar to those the U.S. carried out in Nicaragua in the 1980s, but without a terrorist war on the scale of the Contras, and—at least until mid-2005—without an economic embargo.
........
How United States Intervention in Venezuela Works, part 3 of 3
Analysis of Four USAID Contracts with with Republican and Democratic Party Foundations in Venezuela
Sunday, Sep 11, 2005


By: Philip Agee
Part 1: How United States Intervention Against Venezuela Works
Part 2: Use of a Private U.S. Corporate Structure to Disguise a Government Program
Part 3: below
2. AID/OTI Contract with the International Republican Institute (IRI) to Organize and Train Political Party Poll Watchers to Monitor the Recall Referendum and the Possible Elections Afterwards.
This contract, dated September 15, 2003, resulted from the May 2003 agreement between the government and the opposition to hold a recall referendum and new elections if the opposition won. The value was $284,989 for the period of September 2003 to September 2004, and IRI was obligated to report to OTI on finances and progress every three months.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:42 PM

for anybody into excellent documentaries.....

i highly recommend this:

Flight From Death - The Quest for Immortality

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

What about the five guys that were shot and killed while crossing that bridge in New Orleans?

At first they were "Looters." Then they morphed into workers who were heading out to repair levees.

Then they morphed into "Navy Seals" or some other
military entity who were dynamiting the levees and were shot.

Whoever they were and whatever they were doing...
the story has been made to go away.

It has become our new Jack Ruby/Lee Harvey Oswald/Grassy Knoll/Sirhan Sirhan/Watergate/911 Twin Tower Demolition

....paranoia dilemma.

Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

It was posted on the blog about the same time or maybe with opensecrets.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:35 PM

http://www.corpwatch.org/

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing it heat up in washington not one little bit considering the mood of the country right now...

You and I agree right here!

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:44 PM

blessings Dr.Z......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:44 PM

Fuck the South.

Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

Read on here...

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:45 PM

Blackwater is a nasty malaria related disease.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 13, 2005 11:45 PM

did renquist die while i was gone????

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:46 PM


Blackwater USA CONTINUES TO SUPPORT KATRINA DEVASTED AREAS - Aid Focuses on Humanitarian, Security and Clean Up Needs"

Funny, I don't see anything about their humanitarian training courses on the site...

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 13, 2005 11:39 PM

"Those brownies, are doing a heck of a job," the President said

Was the shirts? Was it the FEMA director? Was it the chocolate treats?

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:46 PM

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:37 PM

Some hella true goin on there Dr. Z.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:46 PM

At least five people have reportedly been shot dead by police in the US city of New Orleans, where a massive effort is underway to aid hurricane survivors. The five were part of a larger group of people crossing a bridge carrying weapons, police official WJ Riley said. The US government earlier announced it had restored order in New Orleans, six days after Hurricane Katrina brought flood waters and anarchy to the city.

New Orleans Deputy Police Chief Riley said at least five people had been killed when police opened fire on an armed group on the Danziger Bridge, linking Lake Pontchartrain with the Mississippi River.

It is not known if the police had come under fire first.

Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

Fourteen contractors were traveling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breech in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.


Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:47 PM

You and I agree right here!


Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:44 PM

But for different reasons.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:47 PM

But for different reasons.

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:47 PM

Yep

Posted by: -tk at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

September 13, 2005
The Need for a Progressive Vision in the Face of Horror
How the Other Half Lived
By BILLY SOTHERN
In 1911, the Triangle Shirt Factory in New York City, where I grew up, exploded in flames trapping scores of young, immigrant, women workers inside. As the fire burned, many women jumped to their deaths, unable to bear the slow death of heat and smoke. Newspaper reporters wrote about the sound they made as they fell, with their dresses billowing, before hitting the ground. In all, 146 women died.
The nation and the world were horrified at the barbarism of industry and began to focus on the rights of workers. For a moment, the world was able to see beyond the fact that the victims were female immigrants, and acknowledged the need for basic human standards for workers. This was a moment in history where, horrified by the excesses of the unrestrained capitalism and the disregard for the basic humanity of our citizens, this country was forced to change and adopt standards that progressives had vainly pressed for years.

counterpunch.org

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

US police in the hurricane-stricken city of New Orleans have shot eight people, reportedly killing five, as a massive rescue effort continues.
The incident occurred when contractors escorted by officers were fired at.

The authorities have vowed to restore security in the city following a breakdown of law and order.

Rescue teams are working around the clock to move stranded survivors to safety - although some residents appear determined to stay behind.

Map of central New Orleans
Sunday's shooting took place while 14 contractors were crossing the Danziger Bridge under police escort, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief WJ Riley said.

He said the contractors came under fire from gunmen and police officers shot back, killing at least five of them.

Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

http://www.corpwatch.org/

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

The one that makes the graphic showing the lines of connections? Is that it? I don't see it there.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

did renquist die while i was gone????

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:46 PM

yeap

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

Five people killed by New Orleans police
Last Updated Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:59:47 EDT
CBC News
New Orleans police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors travelling across a bridge on their way to make repairs.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:49 PM

Print Email
Last Updated:Monday, September 5, 2005. 12:28pm (AEST)
Four killed in New Orleans shoot-out

Lawlessness remains an issue for survivors of Hurricane Katrina on the US Gulf Coast. Reuters
By Leigh Sales in New Orleans

New Orleans police have shot and killed four gunmen and wounded another in a skirmish on a bridge in the flooded city.

The five men opened fire on US Army engineers who were trying to get into New Orleans to carry out repairs on one of the breached levees.

Louisiana police are under orders to shoot to kill because of the lawlessness in New Orleans, which has been flooded in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Police returned fire, killing four of the criminals and wounding a fifth.

The security situation is improving in the city, although a curfew remains in place.

As the evacuations from the city wind up, emergency service workers are stepping up efforts to drain water from New Orleans.

Police and soldiers will soon begin the grisly task of retrieving the thousands of dead who are underwater.

Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:50 PM

you're awfully slow on the draw there champ...

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Years ago I practiced a lot with a SAA and got pretty fast.. even won a few competitions, but haven't been involved in it for years. Yep, I'm sure I'd be much slower today, but my accuracy is still good. Fast if fine, but accuracy is final.... Bill Jordan

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:50 PM

Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.


"Bringing the Iraq War home"

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:51 PM

Media runs several versions of the police shooting incident on bridge




Tuesday, September 06, 2005
by Bene Diction


Did police shoot eight Army contractors walking across a bridge in New Orleans? Or did they shoot five or six looters on the bridge? Did the police kill four of them or only two? Whichever it was, the media has reported several variations of this story within two days and no one yet knows the true story.

At 6:59 p.m. on September 4, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported that "New Orleans police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors travelling across a bridge on their way to make repairs...None of the contractors were killed."

At 7:47 p.m. The Las Vegas Sun ran a similary story attributed to The Associated Press that "police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs…Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six."

At 8:41 p.m. Mark Egan filed a report with Reuters that New Orleans superintendent of police, Steven Nichols, said "Five men who were looting exchanged gunfire with police. The officers engaged the looters when they were fired upon." Egan then added a quote from U.S. Army Corps of Engineers spokesman Mike Rogers saying "[C]ontractors working on a levee breach were fired on by gunmen but no one was hurt," Egan then tried to clarify by adding "it was not clear if the two incidents were connected."

Egan's addition finds its way in newspapers and websites around the globe who reprint Reuters stories. But most websites outside of North America added another twist to the events.

The daily newspaper, The Australian, reported on its website: Five dead 'were Army workers':

At least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department, according to a report by The Associated Press. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on

Posted by: We'll never know the answer to this at September 13, 2005 11:51 PM

The one that makes the graphic showing the lines of connections? Is that it? I don't see it there.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 13, 2005 11:48 PM

that would've been

http://politicalfriendster.stanford.edu/visualize.php

which is a dead link now

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:52 PM

Published on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 by the Guardian/UK
I'm a Hopeaholic. There's Nothing George Bush Can Do About It
by Gloria Steinem

It's hard to travel or send words out of the US now. How can any American expect to be welcomed in the rest of the world when we have imposed the narcissistic and disastrous George Bush on it? I could explain that almost none of his policies has majority support here. Even among those who voted for him, a poll showed that 60% to 80% thought they were voting for the opposite of his actual positions: they supported the comprehensive test ban treaty (he didn't); they supported the Kyoto treaty on global warming (he didn't); they supported the international criminal court (he threatened to sanction any nation that did); and so on. This tells you a lot about the level of information in mass media that prefer celebrities, yelling matches and advertising to investigating what is and isn't accurate.
But never fear, Americans are being punished. Having re-elected Bush as a wartime president, we have to watch him alienating more allies and inspiring more people to join the war against us every day.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:53 PM

did renquist die while i was gone????

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Has to be a joke. Only the comatose would not know.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:54 PM

Years ago I practiced a lot with a SAA and got pretty fast.. even won a few competitions, but haven't been involved in it for years. Yep, I'm sure I'd be much slower today, but my accuracy is still good. Fast if fine, but accuracy is final.... Bill Jordan

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:50 PM

don't make me explain the joke...just look in the mirror and read between the lines...

have fun handy

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:54 PM

renquist... a welder from work and my girl's aunt.... all greeted death while we were gone.......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:55 PM

"Bringing the Iraq War home"

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:51 PM

Watch for it in theaters of war near you!

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 13, 2005 11:56 PM

So scapegoat Brownie and Chertoff skates...

Chertoff delayed federal response, memo shows


"WASHINGTON - (KRT) - The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents reviewed by Knight Ridder show

Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm....

But Chertoff - not Brown - was in charge of managing the national response to a catastrophic disaster, according to the National Response Plan, the federal government's blueprint for how agencies will handle major natural disasters or terrorist incidents. An order issued by President Bush in 2003 also assigned that responsibility to the homeland security director."

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:57 PM

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:58 PM

Has to be a joke. Only the comatose would not know.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:54 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

i was in the fucking jungle for nine days..... give me a fucking break......

mi casa

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:59 PM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:54 PM

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Guess you didn't understand that accuracy is final. Pardon me for shooting over your head.

Off to other joys of life now. Smile.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 13, 2005 11:59 PM

Insurgents regroup to protect poor neighborhoods from gentrification.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 13, 2005 11:59 PM

N, that papers due in a few hours...how's it coming?

Also, don't forget that I like to surf porn when not on the MRR blog - if you can work in some sorta personal anecdote....much obliged

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:02 AM

all greeted death while we were gone.......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:55 PM

Oh! Greeted death...I love that... hi 13! :)

Posted by: ♥ at September 14, 2005 12:03 AM

Guess you didn't understand that accuracy is final. Pardon me for shooting over your head.

Off to other joys of life now. Smile.


Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:59 PM

Bubye handy

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 12:04 AM


Watch for it in theaters of war near you!

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 13, 2005 11:56 PM


Perhaps Mayor Bloomberg's next term will bring that new Sportpalast

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:04 AM

hi heartshell...... blessings to you and those around you..... qua hes ta ma ha.......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 14, 2005 12:05 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 12:05 AM

The German administration's top communications director knew how to set the proper tone. On 18 February 1943, Josef Goebbels addressed a pre-selected audience at Berlin's Sportpalast. "Wollt Ihr den totalen Krieg?" ("Do you want total war?"), he bellowed. The audience, which included wounded soldiers strategically placed in the front rows, clapped and cheered in the affirmative. As Minister for War Production Albert Speer relates:

"Except for Hitler's most successful public meetings, I had never seen an audience so effectively roused to fanaticism

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:06 AM

Posted by: Nobody at September 13, 2005 11:52 PM


It's not that one either. I'll know it when I find it again. Thanks for trying.

Posted by: Mutant Funk at September 14, 2005 12:08 AM

Also, don't forget that I like to surf porn when not on the MRR blog - if you can work in some sorta personal anecdote....much obliged

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:02 AM

...While I was on vacation I had the chance to meet up with young -tk...

I was walking past a bungalow and I heard his plaintif whining for help...Upon investigating I found him wedged deeply into an armpit crack of his mistress with a stalk of celery protuding from his arse...Stunned by the sight I turned and silently strode off...

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 12:08 AM

Bush's Second Gulf Disaster
Terry Lynn Karl
September 08, 2005

Terry Lynn Karl is professor of political science at Stanford University.

President Bush has asked that Americans not “play politics” at this moment of terrible national disaster. But asking hard questions of our nation’s leaders is exactly what democracy demands when the government’s response to Hurricane Katrina is widely viewed as “a national disgrace.”

Katrina came with at least two days’ warning, but authorities waited to issue an evacuation order. There was no transportation for people without cars or money; facilities to house and care for refugees were insufficient; there were no forces in place to deliver desperately needed supplies or to secure order; and there was nowhere near the number of boats, helicopters and other craft necessary to rescue the stranded.

Hampered by a National Guard with 40 percent of its people in Iraq, the pace of getting military personnel to the hardest hit areas was inordinately slow. For four days, there was simply no clear center of command and control. As a result, countless people suffered and died.

Much of this failure is the result of the Bush administration’s policies

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:14 AM

Flight From Death - The Quest for Immortality


Posted by: ????? at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

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Did you ever read that book White Noise by Don Dilillo?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 12:15 AM

Good Night all. Later

Posted by: toniD at September 14, 2005 12:17 AM

DO THE HUSTLE! - The Brady Bunch

Taken from the premiere episode of "The Brady Bunch Variety Hour"; originally aired on January 23, 1977. This clip is from the very end of the show, which is widely considered to be the worst program that has ever aired on television!

Posted by: muZak at September 14, 2005 12:17 AM

protuding from his arse...Stunned by the sight I turned and silently strode off...

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 12:08 AM

Perfect!!!!

I almost feel obligated to share half the grade with you.....

well, almost.....;)

well, better get some sleep - big ole paper due tomorrow and if I don't write it nobody will - heh heh

late

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:17 AM

Boxer Calls For Information On Roberts Nomination

Senator Asks: What Are They Hiding?


September 13, 2005

Washington, DC – U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) gave the following speech last night on the Senate floor regarding the Roberts nomination:

Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Maryland for her leadership in reaching out to the people of this country, asking them to send in their questions for Judge Roberts. As she noted, 25,000 individuals wrote in questions and we received a total of 40,000 questions. It shows the American people have a lot at stake. This is a serious time for our country, and a very important nomination. We certainly know that.

Most Americans understand that the Court plays a huge role in defending our rights and freedoms, and now Judge Roberts has been nominated to be the Chief Justice of the United States. Although some will say it makes no difference, it makes a big difference. The Chief Justice runs the Court, sets its tone, assigns responsibility for writing its decisions, has a certain amount of cachet to speak for the Court, and so on.

Full letter available here:http://boxer.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=245632

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 12:18 AM

It's amazing to hear people mistakenly refer to Iraq when they mean New Orleans...

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:19 AM

Good Night toniD

8-)

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 12:19 AM

i'm out...night folks

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 12:20 AM

Rest well and sweet dreams, toniD!

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 14, 2005 12:22 AM

It's amazing to hear people mistakenly refer to Iraq when they mean New Orleans...

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:19 AM

The difference is what? The amount of water?

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:23 AM

Later, Nobs.

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 14, 2005 12:23 AM

night -tk

you're pretty cool and I think you sorta rule

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:25 AM

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 14, 2005 12:26 AM


The difference is what? The amount of water?


Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:23 AM

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And yet, the military's amphibious vehivles are all in the desert thousands of miles away.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 12:27 AM

Elke Mens voor zich en god tegen allen

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:28 AM

Hey thanks -tk

I really love you man...

In fact, I think you brought a tear to my eye *sniff sniff*

Nobody's ever really told me goodbye before - heh heh.

I'll catch you next time dude - good luck with that paper - you needed to write about 3 hours ago - dumbass!!!!!

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:29 AM

The money used for all this bullshit could have been used to reduce poverty...

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:29 AM

Oh crap!

That paper -

Shit!!! gotta roll

late!!!

Posted by: -tk at September 14, 2005 12:30 AM

Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were?

They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead.

Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:45 PM

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"Bluestaters" founded the country, you say?

Look, there are plenty of reasons to have issues w/the South, of yesteryear and today. Plenty.

But unless you consider "Virginia" somehow disconnected from the South, then you must concede (or consider, if you are simply ignorant) that the first 4 out of 5 presidencies, and the first 8 out of 9 executive terms, were held by Virginians: Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe, wig-wearerin' revolutionaries all.

The "Old Dominion" had a virtual stranglehold on the presidency -- only John Adams' one-term hiccup kept the Virginians from running the table -- and much of the best leadership and writing and critical thinking upon which we base our country (think the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, the Constitution) either came directly from Southerners or was crafted in combination w/and led by Southerners.

(Albeit monstrously hypocritical Southerners when viewed thru the prism of race/slavery, which is unavoidable, course, but it is what it is.)

Look, slavery was like our country's original sin. We're still paying for it.

But it was a part of the times in which the folks who founded the country lived.

The revolutionary Founding Fathers struck a faustian bargain w/the South at the time -- you join the country, we allow slavery.

This led, in fits and starts, to the Civil War,

which led to a hunnerd years of Jim Crow,

which finally led to the civil-rights movement,

which led to Johnson's fateful (and conservative, as it turns out) prediction upon signing the Civil Rights Act of '65: "Well, we've [i.e. the Dems] just given away the South for 30 years,

which led directly to Nixon's "Southern stategy", w/the southern Dems and Republicans essentially trading party identities -- blacks for poor whites and bigots, as each shifted their allegiances in the reconfigured South in reaction to the civil

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 12:31 AM

Arise ye prisoners of starvation

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:31 AM

See you later, perhaps. Not going to sleep myself, but my ISP is scheduled to go away for a while...

Posted by: Cat Chew at September 14, 2005 12:32 AM

Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were?

They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead.

Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 13, 2005 11:45 PM

__________

(...)

which led directly to Nixon's "Southern stategy", w/the southern Dems and Republicans essentially trading party identities -- blacks for poor whites and bigots, as each shifted their allegiances in the reconfigured South in reaction to the civil-rights legislation,

which led to things like Republican candidate Reagan announcing his presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, etc.

So yeah, the South has a lotta 'splainin' to do.

Just saying, tho', considering how much the revolutionaries you laud owe the South for representation, the basic self-righteous ignorance behind your "fuck the South" reactionary twaddle sort of blows your whole "blue-staters" theory right out of the water.

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 12:32 AM

The north profited plenty off of slavery.

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 12:34 AM

~~~ Ahem...Fishgrease

~~~ Bush, Talabani Say No Timetable for Withdrawal

~~~ Iraqi President Appears to Back Away From Earlier Remarks

Conflicting information. You didn't see that coming? Talabani's earlier statement, him saying the USA could pull out 50,000 by the end of THIS year... that statement came out of the White House too.

Translation (what I see): Bush knows he may have to pull ground troops out of Iraq. He has made promises to Congressional Republicans that Iraq will not adversely effect their 06 re-election bids.

We've been seeing the same conflicting statements from OUR OWN GENERALS. They're keeping their options open. Wishbone offense... just like the Air Force Academy football team. I still think they're going to have to take the withdrawal option.


Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 12:34 AM

The with drawal option... the "run", as it were.

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 12:35 AM

Kate Earl - Silence (must download. very pretty)

http://www.thegolddarling.com/kate_earl_silence.mp3

Posted by: wanda at September 14, 2005 12:37 AM

Official Vows Investigation of No-Bid Relief Contracts

WASHINGTON, Sept. 13 - The inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday that his office had received accusations of fraud and waste in the multibillion-dollar relief programs linked to Hurricane Katrina and would investigate how no-bid contracts were awarded to several large, politically well-connected companies.

The inspector general, Richard L. Skinner, who serves as the department's internal watchdog, said in an interview that he intended to be "extremely aggressive" in monitoring the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which will receive most of the $62 billion in disaster-response financing approved by Congress last week.

FEMA, which is part of Homeland Security, was harshly criticized in recent months as mismanaging millions of dollars in relief funds after a 2004 hurricane in Florida.

Mr. Skinner's remarks came as the secretary of homeland security, Michael Chertoff; Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales; and Republican Congressional leaders said Tuesday that they also were concerned about the potential for abuse, given the amount of federal money and private charity committed to the hurricane-relief effort.

Their comments appeared to be a response, in part, to charges from Democratic lawmakers that such a large, hurriedly organized federal relief program could produce the sort of contract abuses, cronyism and waste that numerous investigations have identified in the Bush administration's reconstruction programs in postwar Iraq....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/national/nationalspec...


I have the feeling at the bottom of this Report these words will be in Bold: "No Evidence of any Wrong Doing".

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 12:41 AM

And yet, the military's amphibious vehivles are all in the desert thousands of miles away.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 12:27 AM

Used to fight an Illegal war far away from home,

thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice.

The city and the people of New Orleans have become the latest victims of 9/11...

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:43 AM

Bye Cat Chew

8-)

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 12:44 AM

Used to fight an Illegal war far away from home,

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:43 AM

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Why do they need amphibious vehicles in the desert?

Posted by: Meg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 12:47 AM

Singapore and Katrina
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: September 14, 2005

This writer subscribes to fascist ideals

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:50 AM

Good Night Everyone

8-)

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 12:52 AM

Posted by: pix at September 14, 2005 12:55 AM

This writer subscribes to fascist ideals


Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 12:50 AM

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Wha'd he say there?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 12:56 AM

Why do they need amphibious vehicles in the desert?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 12:47 AM

They're used as armored personnel carriers.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:59 AM

The north profited plenty off of slavery.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 12:34 AM

__________

Doesn't go far enough.

The North by and large bankrolled slavery.

Most of the slave-barons, especially the biggest industrial plantations, were deeply in hock to northern financiers.

Fact, the mayor of New York City in 1861, guy name a Fernando Wood, argued that New York City also should secede from the union.

Northern economic interests were deeply, deeply, almost indissolubly (short of war) intertwined w/Southern plantation slavery.

Much of the illegal transatlantic slave-trade (illegal as of 1808, but widely practiced right up until the American Civil War; intrastate slave commerce was perfectly legal, course) was financed and the sailing vessels built in Boston and New England.

Prolly the single greatest factor that forestalled the Civil War as long as it did was the economic self-interest which selfishly prevented the North (at least government; abolitionists agitated, course) from putting political pressure on the South.

If it weren't for the Southern Confederates Revolutionaries revolting -- it was a conservative revolution -- it's hard to say how much longer the uneasy standoff over slavery betwixt North and South woulda continued.

The spirit of the age ran counter to slavery, course, w/only Brazil, Cuba and the Southern United States still practicing it, but Brazil held out till 1888 if memory serves, so I suspect the South would a clung doggedly to its "traditions" and the North would a kept right on cashing the checks for a good while to come.

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 1:00 AM

They're used as armored personnel carriers.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 12:59 AM

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Is that as insane as it sounds?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:01 AM

Good Night Kevin! :)

-

for anybody into excellent documentaries.....

i highly recommend this:

Flight From Death - The Quest for Immortality

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at September 13, 2005 11:43 PM

Narrated by Gabriel Byrne (Usual Suspects, Vanity Fair, Miller's Crossing), this seven-time Best Documentary award-winning film (Silver Lake Film Festival, Beverly Hills Film Festival) is the most comprehensive and mind-blowing investigation of humankind's relationship with death ever captured on film. Hailed by many viewers as a "life-transformational film," Flight from Death uncovers death anxiety as a possible root cause of many of our behaviors on a psychological, spiritual, and cultural level.

Following the work of the late cultural anthropologist, Ernest Becker, and his Pulitzer Prize-winning book Denial of Death, this documentary explores the ongoing research of a group of social psychologists that may forever change the way we look at ourselves and the world. Over the last twenty-five years, this team of researchers has conducted over 300 laboratory studies, which substantiate Becker's claim that death anxiety is a primary motivator of human behavior, specifically aggression and violence.

--

13ben..this looks interesting..thanks.. :)

Posted by: ♥ at September 14, 2005 1:03 AM

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 01:00 AM

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Yes, but I just didn't have the energy cut and paste the history lesson.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:04 AM

At least 69,364 killed in Afghanistan and Iraq

http://www.unknownnews.net/

Posted by: at September 14, 2005 1:04 AM

To:    executive-editor@nytimes.com (bill keller)
Subject:    Singapore and Katrina
]

In Reference to
September 14, 2005
Singapore and Katrina
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

'The boy is off his Lithium again. The "blood levels of Lithium have to be
carefully monitored." '

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at September 14, 2005 1:06 AM

Gotta go. Gnite people

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:07 AM

Yes, but I just didn't have the energy cut and paste the history lesson.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:04 AM

___________

Guess you took offense, there, Meg.

Perhaps it's b/c you need to cut and paste?

Tell you what, Meg.

If you can find what I wrote anywhere on the web prior to right here tonight (apart from the embedded link offered for corroboration's sake, course), I'll come to Memphis and kiss your ass on Main Street.

You act all haughty like you knew what I wrote about already, but I find it doubtful.

It shows up whenever you start flapping your gums about fascists.

First you lecture me about what I don't know in a loud-mouthed, condescending manner, then you get shown to be ignorant about the very topic you claim to be expert about, then you get snippy about someone not "letting it go" to prove the point that you in fact know a great deal less about than you think you know, forgetting that you were the one to start in w/the loud-mouthed (and ignorant) condescencion in the first place.

Other than that, I see you point.

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 1:14 AM

Guess you took offense, there, Meg.

posted by -b

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Not at all

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:17 AM

~~~ Doesn't go far enough.

~~~ The North by and large bankrolled slavery.

Yep.

One of the most recent NEW YORKER mags has a piece on Brown University's early ties to the slave trade. Providence, RI. was THE slave trade port back at the time Brown was founded, with 90% of slaves entering the country arriving there.

Not exactly a Southern City!


Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 1:18 AM

shell

I rescued another mouse by getting him to go out the front door and hop down the steps. The mean ol' kitty is still looking for him inside the rooms. Kitties are bad.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 14, 2005 1:19 AM

-b

What topic have I claimed to be an expert on? All I just said was the north profited plenty from slavery.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:20 AM

You cannot contain poverty. In order to have a nation of relatively well off populace, you need
the very poorest people to be at least comfortably surving.

This is not happening in our country any longer.
There are throngs and throngs of people who are
hanging on by a thread.

For those of you who think they deserve it, or who choose not to care, you will be laughing last.
Only the uber-uber-uber rich are going to survive
this mess. Everyone else will be facing poverty and extreme poverty. No one will be living comfortably.

We will have a wealthy ruling class, little ruling class shills, and peasants. This is a sorry
state of affairs for a 'democracy'.

Posted by: A Public Service Announcement by # at September 14, 2005 1:21 AM

dr/-b -b/dr...

Sorry -b, didn;t mean to confuse you with the troll.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:23 AM

#

A race to the bottom. A contest to see which wealthy fucker can strip the last thin shred of profit out of the populace.

You're exactly right.

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 1:24 AM

Yes, but I just didn't have the energy cut and paste the history lesson.


Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:04 AM


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dr, THIS is a "lecture" to you?

Perhaps you are just way too thin skinned.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:25 AM

We will have a wealthy ruling class, little ruling class shills, and peasants. This is a sorry state of affairs for a 'democracy'.

Posted by: A Public Service Announcement by # at September 14, 2005 01:21 AM

We've been cock blocked by Bob Saget

Posted by: A. at September 14, 2005 1:25 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 1:27 AM

One of the most recent NEW YORKER mags has a piece on ...

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 01:18 AM

________

Miss the New Yorker. Usedta get it. Liked when you did the the cartoon serials.

Still get Rose's NYT Review of Books.

Read an inneresting piece in that'n by that dumb clod radical apologist bastard souse-mop Christopher Hitchens about the pirates of Gulf Coast (Lafitte, et al.) and the Arab white slave trade (whole lotta Euros found their way into the Arab countries on account a war 'n such; Miguel de Cervantes of Don Quixote was one of 'em for a period of years).

Hitchens is a rat-bastard but it was an inneresting review nonetheless.

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 1:27 AM

~~~ Miss the New Yorker. Usedta get it. Liked when you did the the cartoon serials. ~~~

Living in Wyoming... the New Yorker is like importing oxygen!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 1:29 AM

And good night for real, Ill talk to you guys later.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 1:30 AM

Nite Meg!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 1:33 AM

dr/-b -b/dr...

Sorry -b, didn;t mean to confuse you with the troll.

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:23 AM

________

Don't worry about it, Meg.

Been taken for a troll lots.

Used to it.

Just outta curiosity, tho': what makes you so sure you're not a thin-skinned troll, too?

Posted by: dr@thehideoustroll.com at September 14, 2005 1:41 AM

Posted by: the velvet tango at September 14, 2005 1:41 AM

Standing in the shower thinking

About what makes a man

An outlaw or a leader

I'm thinking about power...

The ways a man could use it

Or be destroyed by it

The water hits my neck

And I'm pissing on myself...

Standing

In the shower

Thinking...

Standing in the shower thinking

About a man I know don't like me

He don't like the place I'm headed

Same place he's headed...

I know he'd beat me to it

If he could but he won't do it

But he would man

If he could...

And the water is piping hot..

The water is piping hot

It beats upon my neck

And I'm pissing on myself...

Standing

In the shower

Thinking...

Standing in the shower thinking

Is my woman afraid of me?

She's seen how far I've twisted

It's just cause I can trust her

And ever since we met

She understood so she let

Me twist her good...

I twist her good...

And the water is piping hot

The water is piping hot

It beats upon my neck

And I'm pissing on myself...

Standing

In the shower

Thinking...


Posted by: Janes Additction- "Standing In The Shower... Thinking" at September 14, 2005 1:43 AM

Posted by: dr@thehideoustroll.com at September 14, 2005 01:41 AM

nutjob

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 1:49 AM

Posted by: dr@thehideoustroll.com at September 14, 2005 01:41 AM

nutjob

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 01:49 AM

_________

Flattery will get you everywhere.

Posted by: dr at September 14, 2005 1:53 AM

Hello Janeane.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 1:59 AM

Anybody see anything else on this. The story smells kind of fishy...

Police Kill Five Contractors on La. Bridge

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six, a deputy chief said. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal.

The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.

Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

No other details were immediately available.

New Orleans police shoot gunmen

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - - (09/05/05)-- New Orleans police say they shot and killed some gunmen who had fired upon a group of contractors traveling across a city bridge while on their way to make repairs.

New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley says police shot at eight people, killing five or six of them.
A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers says there were 14 contractors on their way to repair a canal. They were traveling across a bridge under police escort when they were fired upon.

The contractors were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal.

The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

Deputy chief: New Orleans 'a hazard

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 2:04 AM

At least 90 Dead, 162 Injured in Baghdad Blast

Sunnis Reject Constitution

-- Juan "Mr Happy" Cole

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 2:17 AM

Is that as insane as it sounds?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:01 AM

Marines in Iraq Killed in Amphibious Truck

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 2:18 AM

Watching "Flight of the Conchords" onna HBO

Two guys sitting on stools... with guitars.

VERY funny!

Excellent!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 2:20 AM

Is that as insane as it sounds?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:01 AM

New Orleans police shoot gunmen

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 2:20 AM

um. are we at war now?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 2:30 AM

Tal Afar as Ethnic Civil War

-- Juan "Mr Good News" Cole

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 2:35 AM

The Army National Guard is at 78% for the year in its recruiting goals.

"In the Army National Guard... You Can!"

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 2:40 AM

Marines in Iraq Killed in Amphibious Truck

"We're fighting the non-existent flood water over there so we don't have to fight the actual flood water here." -- some insane Bush or a crony

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 2:58 AM

I'm going to slam a beer.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 3:01 AM

"The Syrian leader must understand we take his lack of action seriously. The government is going to be more and more isolated."

-- George W. Bush

He must mean the Syrian government... "The government"

Our own government couldn't get any more isolated.


Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 3:02 AM

Now I'm watchin' "Photograph" by what's their name.

On VH1.
Thanx Marcus.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 3:07 AM

At least 90 Dead, 162 Injured in Baghdad Blast

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 02:17 AM

"The desert is an ocean in which no oar is dipped. And on this ocean, the Bedouin go where they please and strike where they please. This is the way the Bedouin has always fought. You are famed throughout the world for fighting in this way..." - Peter O'Toole, T.E Lawrence - Lawrence of Arabia.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 3:10 AM

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Posted by: :/ at September 14, 2005 3:13 AM

Is that as insane as it sounds?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:01 AM

New Orleans police shoot gunmen

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 02:20 AM

Oops, that did not come out right.

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 3:14 AM

Is that as insane as it sounds?

Posted by: Meg at September 14, 2005 01:01 AM

Amphibious vehicle easy prey in Iraq

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 3:15 AM

Under Bush's watch, guided by his relationship with God, we've lost 4 passenger flights, the Twin Towers in NYC, a fractured military in Iraq, our National Guard, respect around the world, and the city of New Orleans.

Let us all be thankful he doesn't talk to Satan.

Posted by: Exhausted Blogger at September 14, 2005 3:15 AM

Josh Marshall:

Bush tore down the FEMA that Clinton built up

Of all the sad tales of cronyism and ineptitude emerging out of the Katrina catastrophe, probably none is more telling than the history of FEMA under the oversight and management of President Bush.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/JoshMarshall/090805.html

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 3:30 AM

The administration fills senior positions in every agency of the government with unqualified party hacks who force out experts in their field from departments that are supposed to protect us.

This places everyone in danger because the expertise we depend on to protect us is no longer there...

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 3:33 AM

Posted by: "NEWS CONSUMER" at September 14, 2005 3:44 AM

It's like, "Night of the living dead."

What is wrong with these people? Are they that incompetant and insensitive that they are incapable of even burying the dead! This is one of the most fundimental things societies have done for thousands of years.

Isn't it obvious they've lost their minds.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 3:56 AM

Bush tore down the FEMA that Clinton built up

Of all the sad tales of cronyism and ineptitude emerging out of the Katrina catastrophe, probably none is more telling than the history of FEMA under the oversight and management of President Bush.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/JoshMarshall/090805.html

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 03:30 AM

The Bush administration cannot even handle a seasonal hurricane.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 4:01 AM

The Bush administration cannot even handle a seasonal hurricane.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 04:01 AM

At this point I think their incapable of filling potholes.

What's next? Of course! It's windmill time.
Another unprovoked military attack.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 4:12 AM

Amemeber me? Hey, drop me an email if you're gonna being in DC for the march. It would be fun to team up with some MRR folks.

Posted by: Jethro Zappa at September 14, 2005 4:14 AM

What's next? Of course! It's windmill time. Another unprovoked military attack.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 04:12 AM


You quixotic li'l thing, you.

Posted by: Jethro Zappa at September 14, 2005 4:18 AM

Janeane, I love you.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:25 AM

Bill O'Reilly says high too!

I'd be funny, but you need to help me.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:27 AM

Or you.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:28 AM

Watch the optical illusion.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:30 AM

I'm the Fuchia.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:31 AM

Lavender and glow boy green...

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:33 AM

My concubine says she's not satisfied by my sex.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:35 AM

That's it...

I will raise a storm. Heat.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:37 AM

I'm not going to look at jpg's.

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:39 AM

Wait a second, I need to take a piss...

Fox news is on...

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:41 AM

Posted by: Bango Skank at September 14, 2005 4:47 AM

Hey Janeane did I ask...

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:50 AM

Practical Joke Blow's Bush's Gasket

Free Democracy

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 4:52 AM

Tell me why you feel...

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:52 AM

So hot.

feels like you want to release the flood gates on Oct. 8th?

Posted by: -B at September 14, 2005 4:54 AM

Another event that must be mentioned is the firing of four-star General Kevin P. Byrnes. General Byrnes was the head of Fort Monroe’s Training and Doctrine Command. Official sources say that he was fired for sexual misconduct. Other sources, however, revealed that Byrnes was a leader of a faction opposing a plan for a nuclear attack in the United States for which Iran would be blamed. (10) We must also note that the Washington Post recently reported that the Pentagon has developed its first-ever war plans for operations within the continental United States in which terrorist attacks would be used as justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions, or the entire country. The magazine American Conservative also reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the United States even if there was no evidence that Iran was involved. (11) From all of this, we should be able to understand that fearful sights are forthcoming just as predicted in the Word of God. Only the Lord Jesus Christ can help you. Call upon Him now, for very little time remains.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 4:54 AM

Call upon Him now, for very little time remains.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 04:54 AM

done. now we wait.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 5:17 AM

Posted by: air-ono at September 14, 2005 5:20 AM

The Storm That Ate The GOP

Who will pity the soulless Republican Party now that Katrina is mauling their regime?


- - - - -

Can you hear that? That low scraping moan, that painful scream, that compressed hissing wail like the sound of an angry alligator caught in a vice?

Why, it's the GOP, and they're screaming, "No, no it can't be, oh my God, please no, this damnable Katrina thing is just an unstoppable PR disaster for us!"

from Mark Morford's column, linked here.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 5:38 AM

Hey air-ono

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 5:39 AM

Q: What did Johnny Rotten say to his interior decorator when she suggested a reddish purple hue for his flat?

A: No fuchsia, no fuchsia, no fuchsia for me!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 5:42 AM

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

No Paper Trail Left Behind:
The Theft of the 2004 Presidential Election

By Dennis Loo, Ph.D.
Cal Poly Pomona

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." (Through the Looking Glass)


In order to believe that George Bush won the November 2, 2004 presidential election, you must also believe all of the following extremely improbable or outright impossible things.

1) A big turnout and a highly energized and motivated electorate favored the GOP instead of the Democrats for the first time in history.

2) Even though first-time voters, lapsed voters (those who didn’t vote in 2000), and undecideds went for John Kerry by big margins, and Bush lost people who voted for him in the cliffhanger 2000 election, Bush still received a 3.5 million vote surplus nationally.

3) The fact that Bush far exceeded the 85% of registered Florida Republicans’ votes that he got in 2000, receiving in 2004 more than 100% of the registered Republican votes in 47 out of 67 Florida counties, 200% of registered Republicans in 15 counties, and over 300% of registered Republicans in 4 counties, merely shows Floridians’ enthusiasm for Bush. He managed to do this despite the fact that his share of the crossover votes by registered Democrats in Florida did not increase over 2000 and he lost ground among registered Independents, dropping 15 points.

Posted by: more at Project Censored at September 14, 2005 6:15 AM

Featured Articles:

Voter Fraud (August 2005)


Unanswered Questions of 9/11 (July 2005)

Big Media Interlocks with Corporate America (July 2005)

Democracy Fails: Corporations Win (November 2004)

Media Reform Needed for a Continuing Democracy (August 2004)

Mainstream Media Fails Itself (March 2004)

Corporate Media Ignores US Hypocrisy on War Crimes

Here at: http://projectcensored.org/

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 6:17 AM

hey k-man

: )

that link to music for the wee hours was too spacey

so soothing i wanted to throw a sock at it

it maybe more appropriate for a different mood than i had intended

oh well - live'n'learn

Posted by: air-ono at September 14, 2005 6:30 AM

Posted by: http://www.britishcouncil.org/usa-hurricane-katrina.htm at September 14, 2005 6:44 AM

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:00 AM

The graft goes on -- Halliburton takes lead in Katrina reconstruction -- by Molly Ivins


AUSTIN, Texas -- Here's a good idea: Consumer groups and progressive congressfolks have joined in an effort to stop hundreds of thousands of victims of Hurricane Katrina from being further harmed by the new Bankruptcy Act, scheduled to take effect Oct. 17. This law was notoriously written of, by and for the consumer credit industry, and is particularly onerous for the poor.

The bill was passed with massive support from the Republican leadership in Congress and from a disgusting number of sellout Democrats. While it was being considered in committee earlier this year, Texas Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee offered an amendment to protect victims of natural disasters. It was defeated, without debate, on a party-line vote.

Now, Congress has a chance to rethink some of the most punitive parts of the bill. Katrina victims who were planning to file before the new law goes into effect are s.o.l. -- where are they gonna find a lawyer, let alone an open courthouse?

More here: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=19604

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:01 AM

More Molly Ivins from link above:

Meanwhile, it's an ill wind that blows no one good, so we should not be surprised to learn the first winner out of the gate on Katrina is none other than the Halliburton Co., whose deserving subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root has already been granted a $29.8 million contract for cleanup work in the wake of Katrina.

Of course, no one would suggest Halliburton and its subsidiaries get government contracts (more than $9 billion for reconstruction work in Iraq, with Pentagon audits thus far showing $1.03 billion in "questioned" costs and $422 million in "unsupported costs") just because Vice President Cheney is still on the payroll. Heavens no. The veep continues to receive deferred pay from the company he formerly headed -- $194,852 last year.

But Cheney has nothing to do with the Halliburton contracts -- that, friends, goes through none other than the noted lobbyist and former head of -- of all things -- the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Since Joe Allbaugh, who was Bush's campaign manger in 2000, left FEMA in December 2002, he has been busy making sure reconstruction contracts in Iraq go to companies that give generously to the Republican Party.

Now, aren't you ashamed of yourself for thinking there's something wrong with that? Besides, Allbaugh is now with a big-time Washington lobbying firm, where he also represents Shaw Group Inc., and -- viola -- Shaw Group, too, already has a $100 million emergency contract from FEMA for housing management and construction, and a $100 million order from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for Katrina repair.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:03 AM

Mark Maron scares me sometimes. He admits that he has suicidal impulses when people don't laugh at his jokes.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:22 AM

oh well - live'n'learn

Posted by: air-ono at September 14, 2005 06:30 AM

It started off like a leaky Faucet

That was enough for me

8-)

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 7:29 AM

so what's wrong with deep, pervasive, soul eating, mind fucking neurosis that makes it so scary?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:31 AM

I do love me some Molly Ivins!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 7:32 AM

so what's wrong with deep, pervasive, soul eating, mind fucking neurosis that makes it so scary?

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 07:31 AM


Ha!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:33 AM

Mark Maron scares me sometimes. He admits that he has suicidal impulses when people don't laugh at his jokes.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 14, 2005 07:22 AM

fishin for pity laughs.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 7:42 AM

It looks like it is goin to be another Happie Doggie Day for Judge Roberts..

Our Beloved President has picked the perfect nominee..

While the Senator read and stumble through questions that they don't understand..

Roberts breezes though the answeres without any notes..

We are so lucky to have him as the next Chief Justice..!!

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Roberts parries Democrats judiciously
Nominee for chief justice refuses to reveal his views on abortion, other critical issues
Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, September 14, 2005

Washington -- Chief justice nominee John Roberts endorsed a constitutional right of privacy but adamantly refused to reveal his views on abortion and other key issues at his confirmation hearing Tuesday, insisting he must remain noncommittal on cases headed for the Supreme Court.

In eight hours of questioning before the Senate Judiciary Committee, the 50-year-old federal appeals court judge repeatedly frustrated Democratic senators by insisting that judicial ethics and simple fairness prevented him from discussing the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling that legalized abortion or other past decisions on subjects that might arise in a future case. He fended off similar questions on cases involving assisted suicide, presidential war powers and the detention of terror suspects.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 7:43 AM

What's Bush gonna tell us tomorrow night?

Is he gonna beg?

Is he gonna say please... please more than 38% of you start liking me again?

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 7:47 AM

What's Bush gonna tell us tomorrow night?

=================================================

Bush: 'America will stand with the Iraqi people'

He will tell you we must "Stay the Course"

We are doin "Hard Work" in Iraq..

And we must finish the "War on Terror"

We must tend the garden of Democracy in the Mideast!

=================================================


Bush: 'America will stand with the Iraqi people'
Iraqi president says he hopes his forces can take over in 2006

Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Posted: 2000 GMT (0400 HKT)

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani and President Bush field questions.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Meeting Tuesday with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, President Bush renewed his pledge to assist Baghdad in building a democracy and to help the fledgling government defeat insurgents.

"America will stand with the Iraqi people as they move forward with the democratic process," Bush said at a joint news conference in the White House East Room.

"American troops will stay on the offensive, alongside Iraqi security forces, to hunt down our common enemies."

Talabani said he hopes that Iraqi forces will be ready to take full responsibility for the nation's security by the end of 2006.

"We will set no timetable for withdrawal," Talabani said. "A timetable will help the terrorists. ...

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 7:52 AM

Posted by: War Dog at September 14, 2005 07:43 AM

BLAH-- BLAH-- BLAH

Posted by: Kevin at September 14, 2005 7:53 AM


I am not sure why this matters to Bush..

McCain maybe or Hillary..

Bush is not gonna run for nothin again..

But here you are...

=================================================

President Bush Job Approval


Tuesday September 13, 2005--Forty-seven percent (47%) of American adults now approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President.

Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.

Eighty percent (80%) of Republicans now give the President their Approval. That positive assessment is shared by 21% of Democrats and 37% of those not affiliated with either major party.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 7:55 AM

Goodbye Roe v. Wade!

War Dog plenty pissed off about them womens getting abortions!

War Dog always said that life begins in the sperm!

Too bad 68% of the population believes in a woman's right to choose and that even if they DO overturn Roe... it won't change a THING in 39 states!

But then, the Roberts nomination is all Dog has to bark about these days. All his real agenda is going right down the poop tube!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 7:56 AM

But then, the Roberts nomination is all Dog has to bark about these days. All his real agenda is going right down the poop tube!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 07:56 AM

==================================================

I was hopin to see a little bit stronger opposition to Roberts..

No one heart is in the attack!

The outcome is self-evident..

Maybe the Dem will come up with a little spunk for the next one..

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 8:00 AM

Hillary's sunk too!

She'll know it the first time Bill goes to campaign for someone in Congress and gets booed off the podium... by DEMOCRATS!

She'll wish she'd divorced the sonofabitch!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:01 AM


Elections..

Ya gotta love Elections..

The are real outcomes ...

Afghanistan goes to the poll in a few days..

They LOVE to vote in Afghanistan..

I hope No one tries to intimidate them like they do here!!!!

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Afghanistan Election
Bill Doskoch, CTV.ca News

On Sept. 18, Afghans go to the polls to pick their parliamentary representatives in the country's second election in its history. The Oct. 24, 2004 presidential election was the first, following decades of conflict and instability after the king was overthrown in 1973.

What's at stake in this election?

249 National Assembly seats are up for grabs; one-quarter of those are reserved for women.
There are 2,775 candidates for those seats; 335 of those are women.
Another 3,025 candidates are running for seats on local assemblies in the country's 34 provinces.

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 8:04 AM

~~~ Maybe the Dem will come up with a little spunk for the next one. ~~~

"Life begins in the spunk."

-- War Dog

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:04 AM


The Bush democracy in Iraq is such a wonderful thing!!

==========

BAGHDAD, Iraq — A homicide car bomber struck as day laborers gathered to find work in a Shiite neighborhood in north Baghdad, killing at least 88 people and wounding 227 in the deadliest of a series of attacks in the Iraqi capital on Wednesday.

Mr. Bush's Iraq

Posted by: RWiley at September 14, 2005 8:05 AM

Posted by: War Dog at September 14, 2005 07:52 AM

...Wishful thinking

truth...

Gunmen kill 17 people near Baghdad - police

BAGHDAD, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Gunmen dragged 17 people out of their homes and killed them just north of Baghdad early on Wednesday, police said.

Police said the gunmen rounded up their victims in the middle of the night and shot them outside their homes in Taji.

Car bomb kills at least 10 in Baghdad - police


BAGHDAD, Sept 14 (Reuters) - A car bomb exploded near a group of labourers who had gathered to look for work in Baghdad on Wednesday, killing at least 10 people, police said.

The blast in the mostly Shi'ite district of Kathimiya also wounded 10 people, police said.

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:05 AM

30% more payed out in welfare and entitlements for the poor under Bush than under Clinton.

Why?

4.1 million more people beneath the poverty line!

MORE of your tax dollars going to poor folks, Dog!

That's some conservative agenda!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:07 AM

She'll know it the first time Bill goes to campaign for someone in Congress and gets booed off the podium... by DEMOCRATS!

She'll wish she'd divorced the sonofabitch!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 08:01 AM

==================================================

OH, common..

Hill and Bill are Beloved..

The Great White Hope for the Dems..

Don't you know about all money Bill is collecting with Bush's Dad?

They are a great team!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 8:08 AM

Posted by: War Dog at September 14, 2005 08:04 AM

...wishful thinking

truth...

Seven shot dead in pre-election Taliban attack, official hanged


KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AFP) - Taliban militants have shot dead seven Afghan civilians after finding a registration document for Sunday's elections in their car, a provincial governor said.

The attack on Tuesday in the central province of Uruzgan is the latest in a wave of violence ahead of the parliamentary and provincial council polls which has left more than 1,000 people dead this year.

Governor Jan Mohammad Khan told AFP that the rebels stopped a vehicle with seven people inside in Gizab district.

"They searched everybody, and found an official document, a car registration for election day, on one of them. Then the Taliban killed the seven people," Khan said.

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:09 AM

Don't you know about all money Bill is collecting with Bush's Dad?

They are a great team!

Posted by: War Dog at September 14, 2005 08:08 AM

Actually...they only collected about 10 mill for the tsunami and aren't doing much for Katrina...

It's just not the same world any more ;)

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:12 AM

I gotta question. A non-partisan question.

What is it about these fucking pumping stations in New Orleans that failed because they were under water?

Isn't that like a flashlight that don't work in the dark?

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:13 AM

Got anything else Doofus?...because you know that I do ;)

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:13 AM

Flip Flop Chimp

Flip: I don't let polls affect my behavior

Flop: Sorry 'bout all that incompetence couple weeks ago

Flip: to Barbara Boxer: "Why would I fire Michael Brown?"

Flop: Brown "resigns"

He just isn't the decisive man that John Kerry is

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 8:14 AM

Outcomes..

I go by outcomes..

Afghanistan will vote on Sunday..

Monday morning the papers will be full of stories about the fledgling Democracy..

I don't how you can be against Democracy!

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 8:14 AM

Yeah... Bill just sunk Hillary's chances for 08

She better wise-up or she'll lose her Senate seat!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:15 AM

Isn't that like a flashlight that don't work in the dark?

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 08:13 AM

They're diesel run...now if they had 20 ft snorkels on em...

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:15 AM

Yeah... Bill just sunk Hillary's chances for 08

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 08:15 AM

What did he do- appear beside King George I?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 8:18 AM

~~~ They're diesel run...now if they had 20 ft snorkels on em ~~~

That's not the way you pump water!

Your energy source should be 20ft above the freaking dikes! Your pumps could be shaft driven!

Its fucking stupid! End of story!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:18 AM

Posted by: War Dog at September 14, 2005 08:14 AM

I don't know how you can spout the same tired attacks after all this time nor neglect your piss poor record...oh wait that's exactly what you did when you switched your routine to the "I go by outcomes" schtick...

You still intimate towards a particular outcome even though the theory used to predict this outcome has proven wrong so many times it's not funny...

But that's the neocon mindset isn't it...if the facts don't fit the wanted outcome...change the facts.

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:19 AM

~~~ What did he do- appear beside King George I? ~~~

Oh worse than that!

He protected Dubya! Made excuses for him!

He think we're gonna forget about that?

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 8:19 AM

Bill Clinton is the Republicans' prison bitch.

Democrats loved him because he ended the Reagan/Bush stranglehold on government.

Now, in retropspect, they compare him to living legend Jimmy Carter and conclude that he wasn't a Democrat

Duh.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at September 14, 2005 8:20 AM

Yeah... Bill just sunk Hillary's chances for 08

She better wise-up or she'll lose her Senate seat!

Posted by: Fishgrease at September 14, 2005 08:15 AM

==================================================

Ya'll need to comfortable with supporting Hillary..

She has all the money..

And all the machinery..

It is Hillary's turn..

The more you and Sam rant about Hillary..

The bigger about face you will have to do when she runs..

Bill and Hill are only thing ya'll have done that worked..

Now you don't want to win????????????????

Posted by: War Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 14, 2005 8:21 AM

This amid the backdrop of shockingly low poll numbers and congressmen looking towards their own political careers...

CONYERS RELEASE: 4 U.S. House Comms to Vote on Resolutions Demanding Answers on Rove/Plame 'TreasonGate'!


Debates, Votes to be Broadcast Live on the Net

Announcing that it is "time for Congress to exercise its duty to oversee the Executive Branch," the ranking minority member of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, Rep. John Conyers has just released a press statement announcing that four different U.S. House Committees will be voting on resolutions within the next week to request information on the outing of covert CIA operative, Valerie Plame.

Conyers describes the issue as a matter of "criminal and ethical misconduct" done "for political reasons, to retaliate against the operative's husband for successfully challenging the President's claim that Iraq had sought nuclear materials in Africa."

Conyers also calls former Attorney General John Ashcroft on the carpet for initially dragging his feet on the investigation and for remaining involved in it as it moved forward despite Ashcroft's "long-standing ties to Karl Rove."

Complete story, full press release and Internet URL's for watching and/or listening to the debates for the four separate resolutions:

Posted by: Nobody at September 14, 2005 8:21 AM