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Leak Investigation: The Russert Deal—What It Reveals

Aug. 1 issue - A deal that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald cut last year for NBC "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert's testimony may shed light on the emerging White House defense in the Valerie Plame leak case. The agreement between Fitzgerald and NBC avoided a court fight over a subpoena for Russert's testimony about his July 2003 talk with Dick Cheney's top aide, Lewis (Scooter) Libby. The deal was not, as many assumed, for Russert's testimony about what Libby told him: it focused on what Russert told Libby. An NBC statement last year said Russert did not know of Plame, wife of ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson, or that she worked at the CIA, and "he did not provide that information to Libby."

This now appears significant: in pursuing Russert's testimony, Fitzgerald was testing statements by White House aides—reportedly including Libby—that they learned about Wilson's wife from reporters, not classified documents. Libby's lawyer did not respond to requests for comment. A source close to Karl Rove, who requested anonymity because the FBI asked participants not to comment publicly, says the White House aide—who passed info about Wilson's wife to Time's Matt Cooper—only knew about her CIA job from either a reporter or "somebody" who heard it from a reporter; he can't remember which or who. Rove did not initially discuss his talk with Cooper with the FBI, but later volunteered info about it and called agents' attention to a subpoenaed e-mail he had written to national-security aide Stephen Hadley mentioning the conversation, the source said.

The emerging White House defense is important in light of recent attention on a classified State Department memo that had key info about Wilson's wife. The memo, dated June 10, 2003, was labeled top secret at the top of the first page; a paragraph referring to "Valerie Wilson" at the CIA had the letters snf in front of it, for "Secret No Foreign," meaning the info is secret and can't be shared with any foreign national, says a government official who reviewed it but asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the material. The memo was taken by Secretary of State Colin Powell aboard Air F

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War Dog is late.

He should be here by now... bringing up the future Justice Roberts and then claiming that we liberals are on that instead of the CIA leak thing.

As a whole, the Roberts thing isn't a thing with us Dog. We don't care if Hillary votes for him. We care about this CIA leak thing. There's gonna be indictments come out of this Grand Jury, Dog. This prosecutor is gonna go home with someone's ass in his briefcase.

he's probably packing for his vacation fish....

Ya damn that war dog...I gotta finish my list...one name for every post...

There's some packing going on in Nobody's list, too!

aye...Jen wants to meet in sept...Doofus wants to meet in august...both somehow feel like convenient dodges...only two people have relented to date...sigh...

This prosecutor is gonna go home with someone's ass in his briefcase.

Posted by: Fishgrease at July 25, 2005 08:20 AM

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You may be right..

And just think..

Karl Rove may have to resign..

Ha ha ha..

Hell Id give him to you today..

He is last years quarterback..

But like I said, is more fun watching you swing at the pineta with your blindfold on..

For me, Nobes... you name the time!

Let me know a few days beforehand and we're good!

I'm going out for the fish this week!

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:30 AM

Good morning Doofus

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Oh yeah... I can only imagine how fun this is for ya, Dog!

Hey Lil Nobs...

I found your "research site" Sherlock..

You must have been tryin to google "child porn" again ..

Ha ha ha ha

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http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Republican_Values

Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator, was sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted rape of a juvenile.

Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested for trying to have sex with a 13 year old girl he met online.

Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas Observer of sexually harassing female students.

Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn. Indicted on federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering.

Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid for his second wife's abortion. Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

William Bennett, Drug Czar under George H. W. Bush, compulsive gambler who has had to wire as much as $1.4 million to cover gambling losses in a 2 month period.

Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a

Hey those aren't on my list thanks doofus

You'd think the republicans at least the trolls would have a list similiar to mine started on the dems huh?

Hey those aren't on my list thanks doofus

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 08:35 AM

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Go for it..

Ya gotta go with what ya got..

Nov 2006...!

You'd think the republicans at least the trolls would have a list similiar to mine started on the dems huh?

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 08:38 AM

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You would think that..

But they don't..

Would that make us more politically honest..

Or less interested in sex crimes..

Take you pick..

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:38 AM

Naw since you're the token republican here I'm just hanging this all on your name...When you post so do I...association...Remember Rove changed the rules of the game...

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

But what I am interested in is Hillary..

And how she is gonna fit in the MRR programming..

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Hillary Clinton reinforces ties to moderate Democrats

You'd think the republicans at least the trolls would have a list similiar to mine started on the dems huh?

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 08:38 AM

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:41 AM

or maybe normal people don't do that kind of shit?

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:43 AM

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

What will be fun ..

Is to see you Sam and JG handle here nomination..

Kerry was easy..

But Hillary is gonna get spoon-fed to them one bit at a time..

And dragging Howard to the right with her..

This is gonna be classic...

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:46 AM

But you haven't been right about a damned thing yet Doofus...and before you say it I have read the logs of this blog...deeply

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Naw since you're the token republican here I'm just hanging this all on your name...When you post so do I...association...Remember Rove changed the rules of the game...

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Be my guest..

It will give you something to do for the next 3 years...

Ha ha ha..

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:48 AM

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

How far down can those popularity polls go in three years?

At 30% approval his own people will hang him out to dry.

At 30% approval his own people will hang him out to dry.

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 08:50 AM

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How do you hang, an elected President, out to dry..

See ya'll shoulda come up with all this stuff when their was an election going on..

enjoy your karma today deathpiggie...... (remember some things ya don't see)......

"outcomes" vs "campaign promises"

Does The President `Get It'? Executives Complain Too Many Needs Remain Unmet

``Our expectations may have been too high . . . but I certainly can't say this has been a high-tech administration,'' said one industry lobbyist, who noted he is a Republican and spoke only on the condition of anonymity because he feared upsetting the White House.

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:52 AM

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

But you said it wouldn't matter in 06...

The early bird gets the worm and in this case that would be congress...and the nasty impeachment that is sure to follow.

Course that's a big setback for you guys isn't it?

enjoy your karma today deathpiggie...... (remember some things ya don't see)......

Posted by: ¹³Ъзй at July 25, 2005 08:55 AM

If you are a big karma guy..

I wonder what Ya'll did in a past life to end up in such a political stew??

Karma must be payin ya back for something big...

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 08:58 AM

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over

the internet from a 14-year old girl.

The early bird gets the worm and in this case that would be congress...and the nasty impeachment that is sure to follow.

Course that's a big setback for you guys isn't it?

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 08:58 AM

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Yeah the Impeachment would be something to watch..

Dream Big!

But you got a few hurdles to get over in your plan..

A couple of rough spots..

Like winning an election..

But it could happen..

It just hasn't for quite some time..

What if it turn out like the last 6 or so and you loss seats..??

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:02 AM

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

And what ever happened to that Bev gal??

Remember her..

"Sent me you money, I will fix the system"

Where did she go..

St. Barts?????

I wish I would have thought of that one!

Funny thing about that Doofus...if it weren't for the clever and extralegal redistricting orchestrated by Tom DeLay in Texas the dems would've picked up seats...

See it's harder not to track and fix multiple races without getting busted than it is for single candidates...

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:05 AM

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

repeat for War Dog from republican blog...

John Bolton, R.I.P.
John Bolton will never be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

Whether he should be or not is no longer the question. Whether the "temperament" charges against him were fair or if he was just a victim of Chris Dodd's pro-Cuba fetish doesn't matter.

It is now politically impossible. On Friday, individual clouds that had been drifting around for months -- in some cases, years -- finally merged into a media perfect storm. It is now raging. Whether he knows it or not, Bolton has been thrown overboard as far more significant players start working overtime before the ship of state begins taking on water.

Bolton arch-nemesis Steve Clemons called it at the beginning of the month: The announced retirement of Sandra Day O'Connor effectively killed Bolton's chances -- at least at a Senate confirmation. I thought that, still -- even despite Democrats holding firm in refusing to allow cloture on the nomination (even post "Gang of 14" filibuster deal), the White House was still pushing the pick -- and seemed to be moving toward the recess appointment contingency.

But then consider what has become known -- and what new questions have arisen -- in the last 48 hours: Richard Keil of Bloomberg News reports that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald maybe looking at testimony of Karl Rove and Scooter Libby that could be in conflict with testimony given by various journalists.

That suddenly brings into sharp focus the possibility that Rove and Libby may be facing serious legal trouble. On top of that, the Times story Friday discusses the State Department memo that clearly identified Valerie Plame (Wilson) as being undercover with the CIA -- and whether former press secretary Ari Fleischer had access to it.

Then, as Josh Marshall points out, as part of her confirmation hearings for a State Department public relations position, Karen Hughes was, by law, obligated to answer a questionnaire, that among other things, asked whether there were any legal proceedings to which she might be a be part of: She admitted that she had testified before Fitzgerald's grand jury. Marshall points out, Bolton answered "no" on the questionnaire -- though, it turns out he also testified before the grand jury on the contents of the Plame memo.

If Bolton intentionally misled the Senate in his questionnaire, he's toast. End of story. But, that's relevant to the big picture.

The key is revealed in Clemons' latest post: He asserts that Bolton was a major source for NYT's Judith Miller, currently incarcerated for refusing to surrender a source's name to the Fitzgerald grand jury. Now, one has to toss in a couple of caveats here: Steve, of course, has to depend on an anonymous source that somehow "knows" that Bolton was an anonymous source for many of Miller's stories.

http://raggedthots.blogspot.com/2005/07/john-bolton-rip.html

Well I just want to see Janeane up on the stage with Hillary..

Ha ha..

I want Hillary to explain to Janeane why we must find common ground with the religious right..

Maybe Hillary will give Janeane one of her many bibles..

Still, bringing it all together: DC now has two major players potentially facing legal peril, a reporter in jail -- and the most contentious confirmation process ever for a nominee to the United Nations. But the link of Bolton to Miller -- and thus to the Plame-Rove story -- is what can turn a confusing, "silly summer season" story into Washington nuclear pyrotechnics.

The other new wild card? SCOTUS nominee John Roberts.

His existence makes it impossible for the White House to recess appoint Bolton: If that were to occur, with speculation of Bolton possibly deceiving the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on top of the fact that he might be the source that Miller is protecting, Democrats would go ballistic. Even Democrats supporting Roberts might be inclined to filibuster the nomination in protest.

There's no way the administration would let that occur. Many like Bolton and feel that he is important -- but not so important that they would let an appointment that could only last until January 2007 endanger a lifetime appointee to the Supreme Court and while mustering all other necessary resources on a legal-political fight involving the president and vice president's closest aides. Too much to handle all at once.

Hah just because it isn't news anymore doesn't mean people have quit and walked away...it's all there waiting...You will notice that diebold is getting raked over the coals financially and through other means haven't you?

Ya gotta think up dirtier tricks next time...and the dirtier the tricks the more obvious they become...

Seen the polls lately...most disagree with bush even on iraq and terrorism...most think that wwIII is coming...think they won't be open to believing in a cheat next time around?

Oh they will but the supreme court will save you right?

hahahaha

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:10 AM

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

what do you mean "we" you rotten little gob of smegma?

and whether former press secretary Ari Fleischer had access to it.

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See it is little bity details that make your outcome unlikely..

And the outcome I predict assured..

You know that grand jury runs out in less than 3 months!

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:13 AM

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

3 months until they return with their findings you mean ;)

If I were you guys..

I would copy a proved winner..

Newt and his "Contract with America"

This scandel thing just doesn't work..

But of course a real plan means you have to agree on real issues..

But you could give it a try..

Sit down with Hillary and see if she too will start calling Republicans "Dick Heads"

Shots to the Heart of Iraq

Innocent civilians, including people who are considered vital to building democracy, are increasingly being killed by U.S. troops.

Angered by the growing number of unarmed civilians killed by American troops in recent weeks, the Iraqi government criticized the shootings and called on U.S. troops to exercise greater care.

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:18 AM

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

U.S. officials have repeatedly declined requests to disclose the number of civilians killed in such incidents. Police in Baghdad say they have received reports that U.S. forces killed 33 unarmed civilians and injured 45 in the capital between May 1 and July 12 — an average of nearly one fatality every two days. This does not include incidents that occurred elsewhere in the country or were not reported to the police.

They don't work?

Hell W campaigned on em...Rove is nothing but smear.

And here I sit telling the truth...not smearing at all.

But I forgot you have plan..

You are going to prove Republican commit sex crimes..

Good plan..!

Can you say President McCain?

The continued shooting of civilians is fueling a growing dislike of the United States and undermining efforts to convince the public that American soldiers are here to help. The victims have included doctors, journalists, a professor — the kind of people the U.S. is counting on to help build an open and democratic society.

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:23 AM

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

"Of course the shootings will increase support for the opposition," said Farraji, 49, who was named a police general with U.S. approval. "The hatred of the Americans has increased. I myself hate them."

Among the biggest threats U.S. forces face are suicide attacks. Soldiers are exposed as they stand watch at checkpoints or ride on patrol in the turrets of their Humvees. The willingness of the assailants to die makes the attacks difficult to guard against. By their nature, the bombings erode the troops' trust of the public; every civilian becomes suspect

Use Israels tactics and get Israels results.

Freeper: N. A lonely and diseffected individual that lurks in the shadows and out of a misguided sense of righteous indignation takes pot shots at leaders who are trying to make progressive liberal change in society.

Originally coined to refer to the lonely disaffected posters at Free Republic. Now, used more broadly to refer to the enemies of progressive thought in all of their ugly forms.

Partial List of some famous Freepers:

Benedict Arnold

John Wilkes Booth

Lee Harvey Oswald

James Earl Ray

Sirhan Sirhan

South America’s New Militarism

South American societies are militarizing as a result of the regional superpower’s intervention, which is undoubtedly a crucial factor on the continent, but also as a consequence of the profound economic and political changes we have come to call neoliberalism.

The news had little impact on the media, but it demonstrates that Brazil’s armed forces have their own strategic plans and that they see the United States as a potential military enemy.

Last December, Venezuela signed an agreement with Russia to purchase 110,000 Kalashnikov rifles; 33 assault, attack, and heavy transport helicopters, and 50 fighter bombers. It signed another with Spain to acquire naval aeronautical material, including four corvettes; and it signed one with Brazil for 50 training and combat jets. The purchases form part of “the constant updating of the Venezuelan armed forces, their high level of maintenance, and permanent plans for modernization and arms acquisition,” the South American Military Balance study states.2

The news was received with strong criticism from White House Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and the Department of State calls it “the beginning of an arms race.” For its part, the South American nation activated its reserve command last April, “which should reach 2 million members and is included in Venezuela’s new doctrine of defense.”3 The decision was made on April 13, the three-year anniversary of the coup d’etat that drove Hugo Chavez from office during a period of several hours.

timmy mcViegh was a freeper...

Well I have to get to work today..

Good luck with you grand plan..

Oh and don't forget to keep Rove in front of the public..

KARL ROVE KARL ROVE KARL ROVE KARL ROVE..

There that should do it..

But more importantly don't forget to have fun while you plan your silliness..

Lots of real fun left to be had..

Help Hillary and Howard end abortion..

Support the war like Hillary..

And help Hillary get Roberts on the court..

Off the the Hot Tub then work...

Wado.............................................

Thirteen more governments announce support for Arms Trade Treaty

Source: Amnesty International | Jul 24, 05

New York City - In the last week thirteen more governments have announced their support for the international Arms Trade Treaty at a UN arms control meeting in New York.

The governments of Benin, Colombia, Germany, Ghana, Guinea, the Netherlands, Norway, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Spain, Turkey, Uganda and the Vatican gave their support, bringing the treaty much closer to being a reality, said campaigners today.

A number of other governments, including the EU countries, some East African states and the Mercosur grouping of Latin American states also made positive statements in favour of stronger export controls based on global minimum standards.

The proposed Arms Trade Treaty has the support of Nobel Laureates and citizens around the world. It would be legally binding and would ban arms transfers if they are likely to contribute to human rights violations or fuel conflict, or undermine development. The treaty would close the loopholes that currently exists between incompatible national arms export laws.

Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 09:29 AM

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Preface: John Perkins . . . "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man"

"Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and other foreign "aid" organizations into the coffers of huge corporations and the pockets o fa few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization. I should know; I was an EHM.

Told ya they'd get dirty...

Republicans hit early, hard in effort to oust Nelson

But even Nelson was caught offguard when told a Republican group was questioning whether he would be easy on sexual predators simply because he appeared with Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in historically black Eatonville, Fla.

After the appearance, the National Republican Senatorial Committee posted items on its Web site asking "Nelson Campaigns With Obama - Does He Agree With Obama's Record Of Lenience On Sexual Predators?" and "Does Nelson Agree With Obama's Refusal To Support Commonsense Measures To Keep Children Safe?" The site then listed votes Obama made as a state senator on issues like sex offenders, pornography and adult businesses near schools.

National's brilliant idea? – privatise water!

Monday, 25 July 2005, 4:13 pm

Press Release: Progressive Party

Grant Gillon, Progressive Party President

So this is National's brilliant idea? – privatise water!

National's promise today that a government it leads will introduce tradable water rights means the party still hasn't given up on his plans to privatize water, says Progressive Party President Grant Gillon.

"People should be very careful when interpreting National's rhetoric about 'improving the incentives for efficient and flexible water use'," he said.

" National is just signaling is that if its leads a coalition government then it will privatize the water supply just as the last National- NZ First government sold the central government's shareholding in Auckland Airport in the name of flexibility and efficiency.

"Why doesn't the party just honestly spell out clearly what its policies mean in ordinary language that every one can understand before they actually cast their votes?" Grant Gillon said.

"Because National knows hardly anyone would vote for the party if they actually knew what its policies entail," he said.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/25/1339257

Two Unions Expected to Quit AFL-CIO in One of the Largest Shakeups Ever in the American Labor Movement

Four of the nation's largest labor unions have announced they will boycott the AFL-CIO convention this week to protest the direction of the federation. Two of these unions - the Teamsters and the Service Employees International Union - are expected to announce they are leaving the federation altogether. We go to Chicago to get a report from the convention.

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Hate Crimes Soar in Britain as Police Defend "Shoot to Kill" Policy

A wave of anti-Muslim, Arab and South Asian hate crimes are sweeping Britain in the wake of the July 7th Subway and Bus bombings. Race and religion-based attacks are up 500% and communities of color are concerned that law enforcement authorities are also racially profiling targets in their anti-terrorism campaign. We go to London to speak with the Islamic Society of Britain.

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Bush Met With Judge Roberts Day Before Crucial Ruling on Guantanamo Military Tribunals

As the Bush administration refuses to hand over documents written by Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, we talk to Yale University professor Bruce Shapiro about Roberts' crucial ruling on military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees, his views on abortion and much more.

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Father Jean-Juste Arrested in Port-au-Prince, Held Incommunicado

Haitian Priest Gerard Jean-Juste, a leader in ousted president Jean-Bertrand Aristide's Lavalas party, was arrested last week and charged with the assassination of journalist Jaques Roche even though he was in Miami at the time of the murder. Father Jean-Juste is now being held incommunicado. We go to his lawyer, Bill Quigley, who just returned to Louisiana from Port-au-Prince.

And they're still leaking?

The Irony of Rove's Defense

In order for Rove to convince America that he did not use confidential information to smear Wilson for saying things contrary to the Bush Administration in 2003, Rove and his friends are now using confidential or seemingly confidential information to try to smear Wilson and his wife again. He is essentially proving--by his current behavior--that he and his cronies are not only capable of leaking confidential information to smear political opponents, but he would even repeat the same type of behavior against the same victims. Karl Rove either must have a pretty twisted sense of humor, or else think we Americans are stupid.

well I've got rebar to lay...expect War Doofus to sneak back in while I'm working...he's such a putz.

later

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=13&ItemID=8357

O' Great Spirit, Whose voice I hear in the winds, And whose breath gives life to all the world, hear me!

I am small and weak, I need your strength and wisdom.

Let me walk in beauty, and make my eyes ever behold the red and purple sunset.

Make my hands respect the things you have made and my ears sharp to hear your voice.

Make me wise so that I may understand the things you have taught my people.

Let me learn the lessons you have hidden in every leaf and rock.

I seek strength not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy myself.

Make me always ready to come to you with clean hands and straight eyes. So when life fades, as the fading sunset, my spirit may come to you without shame.

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I am afraid the repugs will be able to dodge this scandal like all the others.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5165168,00.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5165168,00.html

Nice diary I just read at Daily Kos. It's a moderate response to some harsh words from those who seem to blindly love Dubbya:

Oh, Good, I'm Not a Terrorist

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Seder reads more blog than he should.

Posted by: JOSH at July 25, 2005 02:08 AM

!!! :O !!! Heresy! I'm shocked and saddened. Woe is me. I'll be back when I recover.

Good Morning! :)

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Darkness, by Lord Byron

(excerpt)

Unknowing who he was upon whose brow

Famine had written Fiend. The world was void,

The populous and the powerful was a lump,

Seasonless, herbless, treeless, manless, lifeless,

A lump of death, a chaos of hard clay.

The rivers, lakes, and ocean stood still,

And nothing stirred within their silent depths;

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Killer mice ambush endangered seabirds' chicks

Thousands of overgrown house mice are feasting on endangered seabird chicks as they sit helplessly in their nests. The feeding frenzy could spell extinction for populations of birds who breed on the rodent-infested Gough Island in the South Atlantic, conservationists are warning.

The mice are devouring more than one million petrel, albatross and shearwater chicks on the island every year, say researchers from the UK’s Royal Society for the Protection of Birds.

well I've got rebar to lay...

expect War Doofus to sneak back in while I'm working...he's such a putz.

later

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 09:55 AM

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Yes, your comings and goings are of preeminent importance to War Dog, as they are to us all.

WarLapDog can hardly post word one w/o first ascertaining: Is Nobody in the house?

"Do I dare post my true feelings for fear of Nobody's awesome reprisals or shall I wait, patiently, and steal in like a thief in the night to spam the blog while he's gone?"

Yes, it's true, Nobs, your presence is that awe-inspiring and intimidating, as you yourself self-aggrandizingly note over and over and over again.

You never tire of mentioning it.

In fact, your presence is so crucial to WarLapDog's posting patterns, that he has blog monitors stationed round-the-clock specifically to pinpoint target-rich Nobody-less opportunities.

And who wouldn't?

If a person could avail themselves of the opportunity to not be utterly annihilated by such biting rebukes as being called "War Doofus", who wouldn't grab that golden ring?

Yes, WarLapDog breathlessly awaits each fleeting Nobody departure to take maximal advantage of your absence, as he (as well as you, clearly) realizes that your presence is integral to survival itself.

All who yearn for a return to sanity and paternalistic self-aggrandizing protection from trolls must damn that rebar for competing w/your undivided attention and allowing "War Doofus" to "sneak back in while [you're] working".

Damn you! Damn you, unconscionable rebar!

well I've got rebar to lay...expect War Doofus to sneak back in while I'm working...he's such a putz.

later

Posted by: Nobody at July 25, 2005 09:55 AM

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Yeah, I plan my life around you layin Rebar..

Hey, didn't you tell me once you had a goat named Rebar!

Well what the hell, I am not surprised..

I guess all that sex talk you been posted got ya excited..

Ya'll got strange ways out in the woods..

Oh well, back to work!

Posted by: dr at July 25, 2005 11:01 AM

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Posted by: War Dog at July 25, 2005 11:04 AM

_______

War Dog:

I confess I find your politics selfish, counterproductive and a great danger to our country and the world, but it was funny to see you had the same reaction to Nobby's (relentless) self-importance as I.

And props where props are due: the goat-named-Rebar jab was a prime good 'un.

...

Jerry's show is moving! He is doing something new.

Posted by: dr at July 25, 2005 11:01 AM

take it down a notch, son

While it's amusing, it is also scary that we find
ourselves in the situation of having the left in
the USA, defending Joe Wilson and the CIA.

If I'm not mistaken, Wilson is a life long Republican and right winger.

The CIA is a right wing entitiy.

But....it is the far right wing that is attacking
Wilson and discrediting and exposing the CIA and
its agents.

They are eating their own and at the same time,
they are making powerful enemies inside our
national intelligence agencies.

We truly are living in a world....gone mad!

Morning Blob!

oops, I mean BLOG!

HAHAHAHA!

sorry I just thought it was worth leaving and not backspacing over! : ]

Posted by: dr at July 25, 2005 11:01 AM

--

take it down a notch, son

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 11:22 AM

-------

Thanks, dad.

You always know just the right thing to say.

- Teamsters & SEIU Prepare to Leave AFL-CIO

- 88 Die in Bombing At Egyptian Resort

- Innocent Man Shot Dead in London Subway by UK Police

- Ex-UK Official Links Bombings to Iraq Invasion

- 40 Die in Suicide Truck Bombing in Iraq

- Pentagon Refuses to Hand Over Abu Ghraib Photos

- Cheney Lobbies GOP Senators Not to Pass Anti-Torture Bill

- Report: NFL & NBA Jerseys Made By Sweatshop Workers

- New Latin American Television Network Officially Launched

Could the right wing be considered the KKK?

http://bookclub.tpmcafe.com/

Morning dr!

How you be?

I have to go soon.

I have to get to the post office and mail Megs Cake.

I was there already but they don't open till 9:00am

Seems kinda stupid to open at 9:00am in a city this size. NO not kinda stupid really stupid! they could get a whole hour of work done without turning on the a/c.

Amerikkka the new MOB.

gotta go.

peace

MAT! Cats can't taste sweets!

:)

*

Why cats prefer meats to sweets

13:49 25 July 2005

NewScientist.com news service
Gaia Vince

As cat owners know, their feline friend would much rather chase and eat a live mouse than snack on the chocolate equivalent, and now researchers have discovered the reason – cats are simply unable to taste sweet things.

*

Blob...hee hee

http://www.americansforfairtrade.org/

A first-class lawyer with a sense of humor. Too bad he’s a threat to women’s rights -- and the Constitution.

By Adele M. Stan

It’s hard to know what’s more disturbing about President George W. Bush’s nomination of Judge John Roberts for a seat on the Supreme Court: the man’s sparse paper trail or the loose leaves he’s scattered along the way. Either way, the nomination should give pause, not just to women or African Americans but to all Americans who hold dear the Bill of Rights.

[..]

Not entirely unexpected, the apologists might say, from a mainstream conservative. How mainstream, though, is Roberts’ apparent supportfor the militant anti-abortion group,
Operation Rescue? In 1993, a case was brought to the High Court by a group of abortion providers who accused Operation Rescue and six of its activists of violating a federal civil-rights statute by obstructing patients’ access to women’s health clinics.

hi-bye, MAT, must a missed you.

reading long post by billmon

gotta go my own self

I've been noticing lately that quite a few local
Repubs are having big doubts about Chimpy. It seems that being a benign fascist is OK with them
but they are not quite prepared to become full
fledged Nazi's....just to hang in there with Bush.

Roberts said he would have to recuse himself

Jonathan Turley is a law professor at George Washington University.

July 25, 2005

Judge John G. Roberts Jr. has been called the stealth nominee for the Supreme Court — a nominee specifically selected because he has few public positions on controversial issues such as abortion. However, in a meeting last week, Roberts briefly lifted the carefully maintained curtain over his personal views. In so doing, he raised a question that could not only undermine the White House strategy for confirmation but could raise a question of his fitness to serve as the 109th Supreme Court justice.

The exchange occurred during one of Roberts' informal discussions with senators last week. According to two people who attended the meeting, Roberts was asked by Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) what he would do if the law required a ruling that his church considers immoral. Roberts is a devout Catholic and is married to an ardent pro-life activist. The Catholic Church considers abortion to be a sin, and various church leaders have stated that government officials supporting abortion should be denied religious rites such as communion. (Pope Benedict XVI is often cited as holding this strict view of the merging of a person's faith and public duties).

Renowned for his unflappable style in oral argument, Roberts appeared nonplused and, according to sources in the meeting, answered after a long pause that he would probably have to recuse himself.

It was the first unscripted answer in the most carefully scripted nomination in history. It was also the wrong answer. In taking office, a justice takes an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States. A judge's personal religious views should have no role in the interpretation of the laws.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-turley25jul25,0,3148446.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

Woah! Why is Franken a rerun today? Was that planned? I don't recall hearing that.

Posted by: ♥ at July 25, 2005 11:56 AM

Hi ♥

Joe Hill sung by Paul Robeson

http://stream.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/afl-cio/2performancestage//olld2002/2joehill.rm

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night

Alive as you and me

Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"

"I never died," says he, "I never died," says he.

"In Salt Lake City, Joe, says I

Him standing by my bed,

"They framed you on a murder charge."

Says Joe, "But I ain't dead," says Joe, "But I ain't dead."

"The copper bosses, killed you, Joe,

They shot you, Joe," says I.

"Takes more than guns to kill a man,"

Says Joe, "I didn't die," says Joe, "I didn't die."

And standing there as big as life

And smiling with his eyes

says Joe, "What they can never to kill

Went on to organize, went on to organize."

"Joe Hill ain't dead," he says to me,

"Joe Hill ain't never died.

Where workingmen defend their rights

Joe Hill is at their side, Joe Hill is at their side."

"From San Diego up to Maine

In every mine and mill

Where workers strike and organize,"

he said, "You'll find Joe Hill," he said, "You'll find Joe Hill."

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night

Alive as you and me

Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"

"I never died," says he, "I never died," says he.

"I never died," says he.

Franken's show is "best of" all this week.

Hi and thanks NEWS CONSUMER. ♥

Whitehouse.gov

Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
Watch the Press Briefing LIVE with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan. Today's Press Briefing is scheduled to begin at 12:30pm.

I've been noticing lately that quite a few local lefties are having big doubts about the insurgency. It seems that being a benign protester is OK with them but they are not quite prepared to become full fledged Terrorist's....just to hang in there with Bush.

Megs carrot cake is in the mail!

Hey One Heart!

My cat will rip your leg off for Aspergrass (asparaguss) that is spelled wrong too but hey we don't have spell check on the blog and I'm to lazy to c-n-p. But it's not sweet and I have never seen them eat anything sweet. Except ICE CREAM and WHIP CREAM! OH I forgot about the Ice cream because I don't eat it anymore. Hmmm.

Posted by: ♥ at July 25, 2005 12:16 PM

I found a few others you might like. If your interested I'll post the links.

Franken's show is "best of" all this week.

Posted by: Cat Chew at July 25, 2005 12:13 PM

Well crap. Guess I'll have to go to airamericaplace.com. If I have to hear reruns, I'd rather they be MR.

Anyone wanna suggest a particular date when MR was exceptionally good?

Posted by: Kevin at July 25, 2005 12:18 PM

Hey Kevin

I'm always interested!

I'm always interested!

Posted by: ♥ at July 25, 2005 12:25 PM

The Bourgeois Blues - Leadbelly

http://stream.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/afl-cio/2performancestage//olld2002/2thebourgeoiseblues.rm

Marchin' In The Streets - The Whiteville Choir

http://stream.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/afl-cio/2performancestage/2marchstreets.rm

I've been noticing lately that quite a few local lefties are having big doubts about the insurgency. It seems that being a benign protester is OK with them but they are not quite prepared to become full fledged Terrorist's....just to hang in there with Bush.

Posted by: Another Rerun at July 25, 2005 12:19 PM

That didn't work. Not at all. Very poor attempt
at whatever this was.

Is this the blog for Majority Report or Martha Stewart? I heard the show and thought man, I got to check it out! This shit is weak. Fuck, is this some kind of joke?

Fuck, is this some kind of joke?

Posted by: Terron X at July 25, 2005 12:29 PM

Welcome aboard, Terron X.

Yes this is a joke.

Very good! You get a gold star!

Is this the blog for Majority Report or Martha Stewart? I heard the show and thought man, I got to check it out! This shit is weak. Fuck, is this some kind of joke?

Posted by: Terron X at July 25, 2005 12:29 PM

Show us your Lark pack!

Leadbelly! Awesome!

Gotta go! Bye!! xoxox

baboonaphile
One who molests Baboons
Once caught in a sexual act with a baboon, the culprit is placed on a Sex offenders record as a Baboonaphile...

Iraq: This is now an unwinnable conflict

As he completes another tour of duty in the chaos of Iraq, award-winning reporter Patrick Cockburn charts how Bush and Blair's 'winnable war' turned into a mess that is inspiring a worldwide insurgency.

The Duke of Wellington, warning hawkish politicians in Britain against ill-considered military intervention abroad, once said: "Great nations do not have small wars." He meant that supposedly limited conflicts can inflict terrible damage on powerful states. Having seen what a small war in Spain had done to Napoleon, he knew what he was talking about.

...

For future historians Iraq will probably replace Vietnam as the stock example of the truth of Wellington's dictum about small wars escalating into big ones. Ironically, the US and Britain pretended in 2003 that Saddam ruled a powerful state capable of menacing his neighbours. Secretly they believed this was untrue and expected an easy victory.

Now in 2005 they find to their horror that there are people in Iraq more truly dangerous than Saddam, and they are mired in an un-winnable conflict.

Terron X

+ Syna
__________________

= Sphincter

This just in over at anti-war.com. Cheney has asked STRATCOM the air force top brass to draw up a plan to nuke Iran in the event of a second 9/11.

I think we are all barking up the wrong tree now. Cheney will do anything, anything to stay in power and avoid prosecution and humiliation and a good neutering. I beleive he will stage a domestic terror attack, declare martial law and then stage a massive air campaign including the use of nuclear weapons on Iran. It is what these madmen are all working towards. It will also bury the treasongate stories and cause mass panic and hysteria. It is their trump card and I beleive they will use it sooner rather than later.

I would get this out to every Net reader,writer,activist and friend you can think of and head this demon off at the pass.

ugh! Roger Healy

This shit is weak. Fuck, is this some kind of joke?

Posted by: Terron X at July 25, 2005 12:29 PM

What you get out of this place might be somewhat dependent on what you bring. Do you go to a party and look around and say, "Is that all there is? A bunch of people acting like people?" or do bring some sense of fun with you?

...or did you mean something else?

http://www.stratcom.mil/

Testimony of James Marcinkowski
July 22, 2005

"Understandable to all Americans is a simple, incontrovertible, but damning truth:

-The United States government exposed the identity of a clandestine officer working for the CIA.

-This is not just another partisan "dust-up" between political parties.

-This unprecedented act will have far-reaching consequences for covert operations around the world.

-Equally disastrous is that...government officials who have refused to take any responsibility...at the expense of the safety of the American people.

-No government official has that right."

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0723-26.htm

The United States government exposed the identity of a clandestine officer working for the CIA.

================================================

Your typing that does make it so..

Here is the "rest of the story"

================================================

The law clearly states that the operative must have been covert within the last 5 years. Mrs. Wilson has had a desk job at the CIA for the last 6 years. Period, end of story. Jonathan Alter, however, of Nut Case Radio (Air America) and Newsweek says it doesn't matter because operatives typically go in and out of cover and Mrs. Wilson may have wanted to go undercover someday. While this does not matter one tiny bit from a legal, technical point of view, it is especially silly when applied to Mrs. Wilson since she recently gave birth to twins and is an unlikely candidate to be playing agent Jane Bond 007 any time soon.

Posted by: Terron X at July 25, 2005 12:29 PM

Why are you laughing?

It's often comical.

Regularly reasonable.

Certainly sentient.

Cooly recumbant.

Calously droll.

Cruelly effecient.

Sweet as honey.

Peaceful as cake.

Sharp as a carrot.

Clever as a card.

Round as a dollar.

Sound as a drum.

Witty as a quip.

Square as a meal.

Full of vim.

Vigor to spare.

Horny as a goat.

Crack as a whip.

Strong as a bear.

Faithful as a dog.

Obsessed with truth.

Focused on fact.

Rife with recipes.

and as our beloved Martha would say... that's a good thing.

Posted by: Terron X at July 25, 2005 12:29 PM

Minor correction as follows...

Why?

Are you laughing?

Posted by: Who Would Jesus Bomb? at July 25, 2005 01:09 PM

With a water balloon?

Anybody who comes within range, baby!

Want me to predict the future?

You're gettin' wet!

Edward Teller

re: the guest who had spoken so beautifically about everyone's point of view having a "grain of truth" - easy enough to say. But ask him point blank if Nazi-ism had a "grain of truth" and if so what it was.

mornin afternoon gang!

juat saying hi for a few minutes!

I think you meant to say "beatifically" or "beautifully."

Every lie must contain some truth in order to convince anyone at all.

For example, Nazism is a form of government and so postulates that some form of government is better than no form of government.

This is but one of the grains of truth there.

Better to ferret out the lies like "racial superiority," the truths will take care of themselves.

Really, such a childish question.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 01:36 PM

Penn Jillete

billmon here and here ("The Beirut Express").

---

NO PRESIDENT LEFT BEHIND

Or, The "Deferred Success" Presidency

B/c for selfish counterproductive hypocritical wingnuts, admitting that our beloved nitwit war president is an unmitigated failure is not an option.

Hence, the necessity to redefine "success" for a failed presidency to avoid, at all costs, admitting the obvious: transparent, thorough-going and unprecedented failure.

When will we see self-pitying wingnuts put Langston Hughes into bastardized service on the behalf of our beloved nitwit war president?

---

What happens to a [presidency] deferred?

Does it dry up

like a raisin in the sun?

Or fester like a sore

And then run?

Does it stink like rotten meat?

Or crust and sugar over

like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags

like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?

Cock of the walk in a big way, baby.

Posted by: dr@billmon post(s).com at July 25, 2005 02:09 PM

a little of both.

a happy medium.

"The "Deferred Success" Presidency"

http://www.ucomics.com/doonesbury/2005/07/24/

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at July 25, 2005 02:13 PM

The Punjab of Precession.

Break over

Cya's later

love you all!

Hey SJ.
Me too.
Gotta get ready for work.

I might be back on around 6pm, PST though

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at July 25, 2005 02:15 PM

Crack that whip!

Give the past the slip.

Hi SJ

Just passing through myself.

This investigation is going to lead to cannibalism of the gang from hell.

Some will be loyal bullshitters, and continue spinning the web of deceit, but a case such as this is too important to let lie, and others will come forth realizing what's at stake. We have a case of treason here, and the liars are caught in the crossfire.

War Pup will want to believe otherwise, but he lives in his fantasy and he will continue to sprinkle this blog with inert gases.

why thanks! i love a comp!

Precession (also called gyroscopic precession) is the phenomenon by which the axis of a spinning object (Bush administration)(a part of a gyroscope) "wobbles" when a torque is applied to it.

a little of both.

a happy medium.

Posted by: Meta 4 at July 25, 2005 02:12 PM

________

Can't stay long, but was wondering what you mean.

A little of "both" what?

Might be that the word "both" is leading me down a wrong-way, but to me "both" means (exclusively) two.

If you are referring to all of Hughes' examples (of which I count five), then I understand you but got lost in the thickets on "both".

If so, no biggie.

If you mean something else, I do not understand what it is.

Do you mean a happy medium betwixt all of Hughes' examples?

(Sarcasm duly noted, if so.)

Posted by: Harold at July 25, 2005 02:15 PM

yeah!

Me, too SJ, Harry and good ol' EB!

You guys ROCK!!!

Party on, dudes!

asta

Posted by: dr at July 25, 2005 02:18 PM

a post of preeminant chickanery.

tom foolery, my good Dr.

a post of preemin[e]nt chic[-]anery.

tomfoolery, my good [/]dr[-]

Posted by: Meta 4 at July 25, 2005 02:21 PM

___________

Tho' I'm readin' you, I still ain't readin' you.

You are commenting on the post and could be referring to:

* Langston Hughes

* the nitwit war president

* wingnuts

* myself

* or some combo platter thereof

Not trying to be purposefully obtuse, I just ain't sure who you is talkin' to or about.

Gotta go.

Instead of Robert taking away the spotlight. Now Bush has TWO big problems in his hand. ahahahaha..... (Saint Reagan is now in trouble too)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/25/142837/247

Do Republicans really need to be reminded that Ken Starr asserted that EVEN WHITE HOUSE COUNSELS could not assert Attorney Client Priviilege?!!?

The Solicitor General, the Appellate Attorney forthe United States of America claims privilege against a request from the Senate of the United States of America? Truly mindboggling that the same folks who said WH counsels had no privilege no can say this.

I love clicking over the dr nick for funny shit like this

doubtingtomfoolery@chicaneryinacoalmine.com

A Way Out Of Iraq?
Robert Dreyfuss
July 25, 2005

Robert Dreyfuss is a freelance writer based in Alexandria, Va., who specializes in politics and national security issues. He is a contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at Mother Jones, a senior correspondent for The American Prospect, and a frequent contributor to Rolling Stone. His book, Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, will be published by Henry Holt/Metropolitan Books in the fall.

Unnoticed by the mainstream media, the man who might hold the key to a political solution of the war in Iraq appeared last week in Washington, D.C., where he met quietly with U.S. government officials and experts on Iraq and made a brilliant presentation at the Middle East Institute. Those looking for an exit strategy for Iraq (see my two-part series for TomPaine.com, The Vietnam Solution and An Iraqi Peace Process ) take note.

Aiham Al Sammarae, Iraq’s former minister of electricity, has stepped forward in Iraq as a key link between the Iraqi resistance and the occupation authorities. At tremendous risk to his own life, Sammarae has opened a dialogue with various Iraqi resistance groups, and he has offered to broker talks between those organizations and either the United States or the Iraqi interim government, or both. Currently, Sammarae, an engineer and CEO of KCI Engineering Consultants, heads the National Assembly for the Unity and Reconstruction of Iraq, an organization of Iraqis seeking to prevent the breakup of the Iraqi state and to find a nonsectarian solution for Iraq’s divisive politics.

Sammarae delivered an astonishing speech and then spoke to me afterward, making it clear that if the United States wants to negotiate a political solution in Iraq, it could do so with an opposition that is neither faceless, nor invisible, nor disorganized. When I asked him about the reception he received from the U.S. government, he smiled, and said, “It was mixed. It depends on who you talk to.” Behind the scenes, other sources say that there are people in the State Department and elsewhere in the U.S. government who are thinking hard about an exit strategy in Iraq

...and who might be receptive to Sammarae’s ideas. Others, predictably at the Pentagon and in the White House, vociferously oppose anything other than the stay-the-course view espoused by President Bush.

According to Sammarae, he and his colleagues have identified 11 major resistance groups, a number of smaller ones and individuals. Each, with the exception of Abu Musab Al Zarqawi’s group, has been invited without preconditions to participate in an opening to seek negotiations with the U.S. occupation forces. Several of the most important resistance leaders gave Sammarae a formal letter declaring their willingness to pursue talks with Baghdad and Washington, based on certain demands. These include a fixed timetable for the withdrawal of the U.S. occupation army and the reduction of Iranian influence, both overt and covert, in Iraqi affairs. “The resistance wants the Americans out,” he said. “And they want the Persians out.”

“We’ve been talking to the insurgents for a long time, probably since a year ago,” he said. “We began by talking to three major groups, and some smaller ones.” When I asked him to put a face on the resistance, he named four major groups: the Jaish Muhammad (Army of Muhammad), Jaish Mujahidin (Army of Freedom Fighters), Jaish Al Islami (The Islamic Army), and the Ansar Al Sunnah (Supporters of the Sunnah). Most of them include former Iraqi military officers, and many are comprised largely of Baathists, especially the Jaish Muhammad, said Sammarae.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050725/a_way_out_of_iraq.php

~~~ Mrs. Wilson has had a desk job at the CIA,, bla bla bla ~~~

Wonder why the CIA itself is pressing this investigation. They probably don't know anything about their own operation!

Y'all keep a going with your justifications. You just look worse and worse to the American people. Those 20% of swing voters? They gone!

Posted by: Fishgrease at July 25, 2005 02:52 PM

The wingnut true believers can all go to the back of the barn and have their farting contest. I'm not too keen for the smell they leave on this blog.

TMP is a cool blog!

Woot! Woot!

#

Just to recap...

Just to recap...

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 03:11 PM

Hmmm, it's from 1983. Nothing changes.

Shots to the Heart of Iraq:
Innocent civilians, including people who are considered vital to building democracy, are increasingly being killed by U.S. troops.

#

I suppose we would try the same tack with SYNA .. see if getting him laid makes him more agreeable?

Anyone think of other Majority Reporters we could hook up this way?

Guardsman Pleads Guilty in Killing of Iraqi Police Officer

A Hoosier ... go figure.

Anyone think of other Majority Reporters we could hook up this way?

Posted by: S.P.'s Lonely Hearts Club - Platinum Member at July 25, 2005 03:24 PM

Well... do you mean if we use their nipple rings and twine?

About thirty.

Using their blog style witicisms?

27

Using their hair?

Oddly enough only about 14.

Using just their arm or leg hair?

Also oddly enough... 329

Me?

I better get some nipple rings quick!

or I won't get hooked up at all, dang it.

Man, such easy questions today.

I suppose we would try the same tack with SYNA .. see if getting him laid makes him more agreeable?

Posted by: S.P.'s Lonely Hearts Club - Platinum Member at July 25, 2005 03:24 PM

I don't think him dropping his pants, will be an ego booster.

Quarrel Brewing Over Judge Roberts Memos

"In a sign of a growing rift with Senate Democrats, the White House declined to say today whether it would release memorandums and other documents written by Judge John G. Roberts when he worked for the Reagan and earlier Bush administrations."

I would have said it this way ... Republicans prove yet again .. they are scum.

I don't think him dropping his pants, will be an ego booster.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 03:49 PM

Good point. Hadn't considered that he might be hung like an ant. Well, I have heard that any woman worth her weight in gold can work with deficits in the genital area effectively.. though I, myself, have never had that problem.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld arrived in this Central Asian nation today to shore up an unsettled military basing arrangement here that has been critical to operations in Afghanistan. The refueling and cargo mission operated by the American military from Manas Air Base, just outside the Kyrgyz capital, has been essential to ferry aid, troops and equipment to and from Afghanistan. About 1,000 American troops operate from the airfield, the base for a dozen KC-135 refueling jets and C-130 cargo planes.

But this agreement appeared to be cast in jeopardy earlier this month when Kyrgyzstan and three other Central Asian states joined Russia and China in calling for the United States to set a deadline for withdrawing from the base here and another in neighboring Uzbekistan.

I but I thought he was supposed to get 45 months?? Who is right on this??

On Plame and Rove.

The Repugs claim that Rove outing Plame was not illegal, because "he didn't know she was undercover".

IF ROVE DIDN'T KNOW, IT MEANS *SHE COULD HAVE BEEN UNDERCOVER*, he outed her anyway and that means that Rove still has no excuse.

Plain and simple, Karl Rove outed a CIA officer, her cover company, and her sources, in order to keep Joe Wilson in line for telling the truth and doing his job right.

This is what happens when you take your political adviser into the White House. This directly reflects on Dubya's incompetence.

But I guess it is ok to undermine the war on terror, as long as you are a Republican.

Real Republicans must be spinning.

Où sont les républicains d'antan ?

We could hook people up via the polls section on our yahoo site.

ex: Who would be the perfect blog match for...?

1. Sunshine Jim

a. Chris?

b. Terry?

c. Pat?

2. Crank Bait...

a. Chris?

b. Terry?

c. Pat?

3. Fishgrease...

a. Chris?

b. Terry?

c. Pat?

4. Cathy in Seattle...

a. Chris?

b. Terry?

c. Pat?

You get it, but use real names.

On the other hand, forget it, we have too many Jerry Springer moments here.

test

C'est celui !

.....On the other hand, forget it, we have too many Jerry Springer moments here.....

Posted by: ☯_ĆăŦħŷ in ŞěǺŦŦłě_♳ at July 25, 2005 04:39 PM

Too funny Cathy in Seattle!

Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to gain information from their parents who were thought to be "insurgents."

Does anyone know if Ambassador. Alon Pinkas, Israeli Consul General to NY, was ever asked back to The Majority Report after May 13th 2004? I just heard the interview they had with him and damn if that wasn't intriguing stuff. I mean, I've never properly understood the whole West Bank/Gaza Strip thing from the perspective of someone who is a representative of those people before. It was engrossing. Admittedly, I downloaded that mp3 cuz I wanted to listen to the Arianna Huffington interview but now I've a feeling it's gonna be a let down after this.

So was Alon Pinkas ever asked back? Garofalo seemed major freaked out by him.

Posted by: ☯_ĆăŦħŷ in ŞěǺŦŦłě_♳ at July 25, 2005 04:39 PM

speaking of, we should have some sort of blog olympic or something...(okay I am bored, sorry. just a suggestion)

Sunshine Jim:

Sophia Loren

.

Majority Report Blog olympic suggestion:

1. Who can post the most liberal content post in 'redstate.org'

2. Who can piss off the most freeper in their blog.

3. Who can take over thread the fastes in 'hannity's forum'.

4. who can clear/slow down post number in Hannity forum the fastest (team tournament)

5. Who can whack the hardest the wingnut in Ariana's huffington's blog.

heh heh...just a suggestion.

If we want to take over wingnut on the net, might as well have fun and keep score.

Sophia Loren

http://www.toosquare.com/booze/uploads/~Sophia%20Loren%2001.jpg

Does anyone know if Ambassador. Alon Pinkas, Israeli Consul General to NY, was ever asked back to The Majority Report after May 13th 2004? I just heard the interview they had with him and damn if that wasn't intriguing stuff. I mean, I've never properly understood the whole West Bank/Gaza Strip thing from the perspective of someone who is a representative of those people before. It was engrossing. Admittedly, I downloaded that mp3 cuz I wanted to listen to the Arianna Huffington interview but now I've a feeling it's gonna be a let down after this.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 05:21 PM

Are ya insane? THe blog will go crazy with his lyng ass speech.

well have fun and keep score.

The only problem is your side is so anti-keeping score. Maybe everyone should just get a "gold-star" for participating.

The only problem is your side is so anti-keeping score. Maybe everyone should just get a "gold-star" for participating.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 05:31 PM

whatever wardog. You better start enforcing that hannity and freeper club. They are two most pathetic forum on the net for so called top rightwing site.

Are ya insane? THe blog will go crazy with his lyng ass speech.

Posted by: wanda at July 25, 2005 05:31 PM

Can someone OTHER than Wanda respond, please?

I think that the neocon Administration knows the gig is up, and is just trying to drag its' feet across the lame duck line.

Delay, deny, delay some more. Pretty soon they're outta there.

Posted by: S.P.'s Lonely Hearts Club - Platinum Member at July 25, 2005 03:56 PM

man, that's nothing...

It's worse at my house...

I'm hung like your Aunt.

(chagrine, blush)

Pinkas was a rabid whacko...horrible interview I thought. Should book exclusively on the neocon radio network.

Can someone OTHER than Wanda respond, please?

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 05:36 PM

The audio was only half the story. The blog responded with tons of comment while punchus was on MR. That interview is not a stand alone interview. There was several interviews during the week.

Trust me when I say the blog went absolutely banana over that lying guy.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 05:36 PM

Are ya insane? THe blog will go crazy with his lyng ass speech.

(jiss kiddin')

Know what's delicious?

Vegitable chips.

Totally taste like potato chips.

Why John Bolton is the best man to serve as ambassador to the UN, and why the left REALLY hates him so much (pg. 10)

Taste like tater chips cause they are fried in oil?

Ah. So I need to go hunt through the weblog archives to pick up on that. Good point. Thank you Wanda.

I'm presently comparing Pinkas' statements to Wikipedia and other sources on the Web. Just want to try to understand what's going on. So far I don't see where Pinkas lied. Can you enlighten me perhaps? I do notice he got a bit defensive at points and seemed to not want to talk specifically about the West Bank until Seder pressured him.

Although this is not one of Garofalo's shining moments (admitting to your guest that he scares you is generally bad form I would imagine) I think it made for riveting radio.

Can someone OTHER than Wanda respond, please?

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 05:36 PM

she's right. somtimes the blog goes crazy.

I'm presently comparing Pinkas' statements to Wikipedia and other sources on the Web. Just want to try to understand what's going on. So far I don't see where Pinkas lied. Can you enlighten me perhaps? I do notice he got a bit defensive at points and seemed to not want to talk specifically about the West Bank until Seder pressured him.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 05:48 PM

Depends what you mean by lying. but he certainly tries to paint the occupation as some sort of 'suburban' expansion that is good for the civilized world. Of course at that time MR sophistication is rather low, so they didn't ask anythign about 'torture, land confiscation, the wall, assasination policy, etc'

but during that week there are at least 2 great interview in the series. (one by an Israeli novelist. that one is a must listen. very insightfull) another one is a short cross interview between a palestinian reporter and an Israeli ex mossad I think. That was absolutely ugly. which exemplify the situation.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 05:48 PM

Dang good question!

lemme take a peek.

here's their website. www.terrachips.com Now I'll read around fer how they cook 'em up.

Wanda: "one by an Israeli novelist. that one is a must listen. very insightfull.."

By that do you mean David Grossman? I think he's on the May 13th broadcast too. If not, do you have dates?

Pinkas seemed to want to gloss over stuff, and he certainly walked in with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, expecting tough questions, but by the end I got the feeling he was being dismissive of both Seder and Garofalo, especially the latter, as ignorant western silverspoons who couldn't possibly comprehend the complexities he was trying to shower upon them. Rather stuffy, he was, but then going up against Seder's daring and brash behavior in the interview - it just really worked for me. Wish there was more of this. Of course, had Garofalo not been so intimidated maybe she would have spoken up more, and if there were a 'rematch' today, I bet both Seder and Garofalo could call him on some of his suppositions.

For example, he was insisting that the majority of Israeli political opinion somehow congealed towards the center after Clinton's failure to instigate a peace process at Camp David. This seemed more like wishful thinking on his part. I would like to have seen Garofalo demand more specific evidence that this was actually the case. Pinkas also wanted Seder and Garofalo to believe that the number of 'extremists' who perceive the end of the world to somehow involve that region directly to be a very small insignificant number, no longer even a part of mainstream political debate in Israel, and I've been led to believe that's a cornerstone of theological thought in the region. Seemed he was describing a world he wanted rather than one that exists, but then, I've never personally been to Israel and he has, so I was just taking him at his word.

Is that what you mean by lying? I'd see it more as a difference of perception.

Eh, nover found anything about how they cook 'em, but i bet they do fry 'em in oil.

considering the whole deal is about being natural, my guess is they cook them in something like soy oil or like that.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 25, 2005 05:49 PM

especially during a neo-con speech.

whikketti-whacketti-click-clacketti-koo-coo-crazy.

...could also be that Pinkas' real agenda is to try to downplay the violence in the region - maybe as a foreign diplomat he's hoping to encourage more tourism in the area. Personally I'd never step foot inside Israel without armed guards and a popemobile, even if Jesus Christ himself gave me a personal invitation.

he was trying to shower upon them. Rather stuffy, he was, but then going up against Seder's daring and brash behavior in the interview -

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:06 PM

well, he is an ambassador with real national duty afterall. Not just schmos giggling on radios. Sam has improves since, he actually read instead of just bumbling along thinking he can just wing it.

Janeane is still the same old self. Making shit up based on few lite facts and thinking people should recognize her as some sort of important media figure.

I'm looking at the weblog archive for that hour. Can't seem to pinpoint when the madness starts...?

...could also be that Pinkas' real agenda is to try to downplay the violence in the region - maybe as a foreign diplomat he's hoping to encourage more tourism in the area. Personally I'd never step foot inside Israel without armed guards and a popemobile, even if Jesus Christ himself gave me a personal invitation.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:15 PM

duh. Of course he does. Israel is not exactly in high moral authority. Their occupation policy is truely despicable. He has to spin it hard to project Israel image in more palattable way.

I wouldn't go to Isreal for a million buck until they fix their illegal occupation justly.

LOL! Wanda you were pretty harsh to Janeane even back then!

...oh great Jeanine is diving right to the right wing subject.

Posted by: wanda at May 13, 2004 08:54 PM

But to be fair you had already 'written off' Pinkas before he even opened his mouth, calling him a "Sharon apologist." So your impression of what he had yet to say was discolored by your impression of what you'd read about him before.

July 20, 2005: “With the Rove Scandal growing daily as the press starts a feeding frenzy, the obvious failures in Iraq are another source of panic here in the Monkey Palace. A new plan, concocted by two of the Neocon fascists, is to foment a revolution in Iran, cause maximum internal destruction there and probably, note the word “probably,” wreck or delay the dreaded atomic weapons programs obviously in train there. Unfortunately, the Russians, who are now clandestine but effective allies of Iran, have intercepted certain CIA/USIA codes messages from Saudi Arabia that clearly outline the plottings. Russian code breakers are much better than the US code makers and the result is that many of our so-called “unbreakable diplomatic and intelligence” codes are not. It is becoming obvious that utter stupidity reigns here and everyone is aware of it…except the leadership. Talk about the blind leading the blind! The CIA and other intelligence agencies are terrified of crossing the Bush people and wouldn’t dare submit a report that thwarts the Royal Will with the result that there are very unhappy people in Langley and the Pentagon. They see the blindness and fanaticism of the current empire builders as leading us right over a cliff into the abyss. When a bartender at the Cosmos Club is able to discuss all kinds of deep secrets with some of the patrons, as he did with me recently, we have no security left. The DHS is useless and the FBI is fighting everyone for turf, the CIA is quivering with terror and the NSA is doing its dirty work in private. No one is cooperating and the Bush people have created a Byzantine atmosphere that makes any kind of coordination impossible. The Russians and the Arab militants are laughing at us as are the North Koreans, the PRC people and now even the French and British. The latter are stuck, for the time being, with Suckass Blair but it is strongly rumored that his own party is going to dump him…and the UKs participation in the Iraqi Disaster. As far as Bush is concerned, the Imperial wagon train is starting to circle and the frightened Rove is making irrational noises because he knows he will have to be thrown to the wolves if he can’t find a major distraction soon. The Aruba nonsense h

The DHS is useless and the FBI is fighting everyone for turf, the CIA is quivering with terror and the NSA is doing its dirty work in private. No one is cooperating and the Bush people have created a Byzantine atmosphere that makes any kind of coordination impossible. The Russians and the Arab militants are laughing at us as are the North Koreans, the PRC people and now even the French and British. The latter are stuck, for the time being, with Suckass Blair but it is strongly rumored that his own party is going to dump him…and the UKs participation in the Iraqi Disaster. As far as Bush is concerned, the Imperial wagon train is starting to circle and the frightened Rove is making irrational noises because he knows he will have to be thrown to the wolves if he can’t find a major distraction soon. The Aruba nonsense has about run its course and there is no more Michael Jackson to occupy the trailer park people. They are getting frantic and frantic people, desperate to hang on to what once appeared to be inexorable Imperial power, will do very stupid things. When this happens, the mass of the public will eventually demand their removal and it will then be so.”

Is anyone following his convoluted rhetoric?

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at May 13, 2004 08:59 PM

Ah. I think I found where the madness is about to start.

Pinkas excuse for the occupation and dismissal is predictable political double talk. Whether it was right for them to do what they did back in the sixties, the fact is they're there now. That's not much of an argument. I am surprised Garofalo didn't call him on it, but perhaps they were both a bit starry-eyed that they'd actually gotten a foreign Consul general to speak with them at all, and were trying to use kid gloves on him.

Come to think of it, Pinkas probably wouldn't accept an interview today, and considering that the world spotlight is off the West Bank and on Iraq... Hrmmm... More support for the conspiracy theory that all this is deliberate, eh? I was looking at a map again today of the region. Weird that what stands between Iraq and Jerusalem is Syria, and that there's been rumors that's where our "peacekeepers" may go next. I see a disturbing pattern.

Purely coincidental, I suppose... eh?

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:28 PM

The pinchus interview was delayed several days if I rememebr correctly. The blog was utterly prepared.

(drinking game with punchus, everybody put their guess what stupid cliches shit he is about to put on air)

I think I put mine. 2 of my predictions were correct. (I think it was. Arafat is evil, Palestians are terrorist/Israel the only democracy in ME,... something like that. Can't remember anymore)

Anyway, the whole thing is just a likudniks shill.

(us, good. them, terrorists. kill kill kill.)

dear dr

i have enormous respect for u

nevertheless, a jolly big FUCK U for: Posted by: dr at July 25, 2005 11:01 AM

that was petty, savage & uncalled for

and as a dr fan, very disappointing

But to be fair you had already 'written off' Pinkas before he even opened his mouth, calling him a "Sharon apologist." So your impression of what he had yet to say was discolored by your impression of what you'd read about him before.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:21 PM

He has several audio/video archive from various interviews. (how do you think I could predict what talking points he was spewing?)

CBS News is crowing about the breakup of the AFL-CIO. If labor returns to it's radical roots it might have a chance to survive otherwise the labor movement in America is dead, along with the middle class.

Why John Bolton is the best man to serve as ambassador to the UN, and why the left REALLY hates him so much (pg. 10)

Posted by: Left Nut at July 25, 2005 05:47 PM

Anyone who posts a link to a pdf file should be taken out and hung ... no wait ... hangin's too good for'em ... send'em to Abu Graib on the holiday package ... then ... duct tape their mouth, dress them up in a burka and ship them to Afganistan ... ala Trading Places.

Ooh! There's some good stuff in here:

Jojo: "sam should really bust out with the hebrew or yiddish with this guy."

Balquhidder: "What part of 'thou shalt not kill' do they not understand?"

Bryan: "..they're not sure if an illegal act is a crime."

Wanda: "He is spinning it so fast I don't even know if he say anything. lol."

PeteMoon: "The question of why there are settlements on the West Bank is irrelevant??? Must be, since he immediately changed the subject to settlements in Gaza."

Bowery: "yup. here comes the bible. humalong ""this land is mine, god gave this land to me..."" oy oy

LOL! I'm cracking up!

There's a point where Jojo mentions Sam posting on the board, and compares it to the hand of God reaching down from the heavens, but I can't actually find a post above that where Sam made his godlike appearance.

From Friday through Sunday, Iraq was hit by an unbelievable 15 suicide bombings, one of which, on a Shi'a mosque in Musayyib, killed 98 people. Since the April 28 formation of the new government, car bombings alone have killed close to 1700. Since the United States has a population at least 11 times that of Iraq, this is proportionately something like 6 9/11's that Iraqis have gone through in just the past few months - without even counting deaths, injuries, and torture inflicted by U.S. and Iraqi government forces. According to a justification George Bush gives now and again, this was a deliberate goal of the invasion and these 6 9/11's count as a stunning success of the policy.

This week, Seymour Hersh reports that, according to anonymous military and intelligence sources, during the run-up to the Iraqi elections, George Bush signed a "highly classified Presidential 'finding' authorizing the C.I.A. to provide money and other support covertly to political candidates in certain countries who, in the Administration's view, were seeking to spread democracy." The context in which this finding was made was Iraq and the political candidate who was supposedly "seeking to spread democracy," was none other than the Paul Bremer-appointed strongman Ayad Allawi, whose democratic record includes general thuggery, vicious crackdowns from the Iraqi security forces, attempts to intimidate and suppress the media, and approval of the murderous assault on Fallujah in November - although it's true he has shown no less respect for democracy than his successors.

It's harder and harder for anyone to justify any aspect of the Iraq war unless, like most of the right wing, he takes the position that facts don't matter or, really, don't exist. You simply can't argue that Iraqis are better off - the violence far exceeds that of Saddam's later years, unofficial militias intimidate everyone and restrict basic political freedoms almost as much as Saddam did, and, indeed many basic rights that Saddam guaranteed, especially women's rights, are gone now.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:37 PM

I told ya the blog was utterly disgusted with that guy.

I am reading 1984 again.

Man. How depresser.

Negative Uptopia is here.

1984 word of the day:

"Probe": To ignore completey except for verbal praise.

#

What it is. What we got here in Washington is a poltical mafia outfit. They have joined together to from a new kind of poltical party. This one is modeled after the mafia. Check out Iraq. Case of one crime family taking over another crime family for territory and stealing. At home the Bush crime family have no respect for the law. They are packing the courts with friendly judges. All the while they have bankrupted the government who must have other counrties buy into our Treasury to stay afloat. They use intimidation and fear as tools just like the mafia. The media and journalist and whistleblowers fear telling the truth for fear of the Bush crime family retribution. What it is.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FABULOUS STAINS, followed by, SMITHEREENS, then Blank Generation

Posted by: wanda at July 25, 2005 06:41 PM

Hey?

I know.

What a jerk.

That guy is a real piece of shit.

I'm sure glad I'm me, and not sad ass SYNA.

There's a point where Jojo mentions Sam posting on the board, and compares it to the hand of God reaching down from the heavens, but I can't actually find a post above that where Sam made his godlike appearance.

Posted by: ZachsMind at July 25, 2005 06:37 PM

=============================================

Sam was posting at the start of the SS debate..

Post election..

We had several debates about SS..

Sadly he did not change is position and SS is still doomed..

Posted by: perfect 80's movie night at July 25, 2005 06:49 PM

Nah...

Liquid Sky, Urgh (The Music Wars) and The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle.

Nah...

Liquid Sky, Urgh (The Music Wars) and The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle.

yep yep yep

anything niteflight

also...FORBIDDEN ZONE and GET CRAZY

"how do you think I could predict what talking points he was spewing?)"

Posted by: wanda at July 25, 2005 06:35 PM

It's a shame I missed the party. I am glad I experienced the interview first with an open mind. I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but the more I read in various places on the Web about the affair, the less I can believe this guy is actually a representative for the region. He's clearly out of the loop as to what's been going on there.

Or as you said, he's blatantly lying and trying foolishly to paint the situation so the people he supports won't end up with their heads on the end of a pike. I admit I'm rather naive. I try to expect the best from people at first, until its proven otherwise.

Posted by: perfect 80's movie night at July 25, 2005 06:54 PM

ok, then.