June 13, 2005

Could memo sink Bush?

Hinchey, others demand answers on Downing Street Memo

By Dave Richardson - Times Herald-Record

»What if President Bush lied to Congress and the American people, used those lies to gain congressional approval for military action against Iraq and launched a war that killed 1,700 Americans and tens of thousands of others?

That might have been a hypothetical question a month ago; it might not be hypothetical anymore.

In fact, Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-Hurley, says the answer to the question could lead to the impeachment of President Bush.«

http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2005/06/13/drhousem.htm

"Could this memo sink Bush"....Nahhh, Shit floats!

Mr. Crowley!

Bill

Hey MJ Blog folks,

Join the virtual protest against whaling!

http://whales.greenpeace.org/

You know you want to.

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Janeane is FUCKING pooping all over the place.

Janeane I fucking LOVE you when you get like this.

GODDAMN YOU PERLE! I HOPE YOU KNOW JUST HOW BIG OF A DOUCHEBAG YOU ARE!

>:[

I LOVE JANEANE AND HER FIRE!

GO JANEANE GO

Wow!

I'm watching Rachel Maddow on Tucker Carlson's show.

I never realized just how hawt she is.

That's what T.V. needs more of.

Hawt liberals.
And I love how she's not letting ANYONE get away with ANYTHING.

Rather aggressive, that one.

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

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Somebody should throw Janeane out of the show. She is absolutely destroying the show quality ...thoroughly.

some people say J's as mad as a march hare. others prefer to think she's as mad as a wet hen.

Duke was his fighter pilot callsign not his nick name.

He's a bastard, all around.

Somebody should throw Janeane out of the show. She is absolutely destroying the show quality ...thoroughly.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:09 PM

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Nah...she just needs to be wrangled occasionally.

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

Subject: Choking on Email

Michael,

Well, I read your article Michael and wow, that was a great adolescent whine. We aren't paranoid, most of us knew we were lied to, we are justified now with this memo (which are actually minutes.

You really should check with the London Times before you submit such a ridiculous editorial, they posted new memos the same morning of your editorial.

While you were whining about getting "200 emails from strangers" about the lack of coverage of Downing Street Memo I, 6 more documents have been released, including Downing Street Memo II, which is MUCH more incriminating than the first one.

In case you haven't been there, all new documents are on rawstory.com and on the following:

Ministers were told of need for Gulf war �excuse� http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1650822,00.html

Cabinet Office paper: Conditions for military action

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1648758,00.html

Washington confronts 'memogate' http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11...1647332,00.html

Have US media been too cautious reporting Iraq? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,564-1649071,00.html

Just in case you are unaware of the news, the ministers were told of a need for them to create an excuse for war. Hello? This is KILLING people!

Back to your "whine". Just to let you know.... C is the head of MI6 - Sir Richard Dearlove, which you would have known if you did a little bit of research. That's what the Brits call that office. We knew that, why didn't you?

You said: "But even on its face, the memo is not proof that Bush had decided on war. It states that war is �now seen as inevitable� by �Washington.� That is, people other than Bush had concluded, based on observation, that he was determ

"I don't want to impune..." = I don't want to take a stand based upon evidence..."

"Idealist" in the sense that Hitler was an Idealist....

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I don't even THINK janeane actually understand what she is talking about ...

*shakes head*

wanda I seriously don't understand what's your problem with Janeane.
This is what we need.
PASSION!

'idealist'.

i dunno.

but yeah, fuck perle.

I think we all could use a Pop Tart and Ovaltine break.

.

YOu are a FUCKING IDIOT Janeane.

*lmao* janeane!!

Democracy for America is looking for the best ideas--yours--on how best to spread the word on the Downing Street papers.

Is it reprints in newspapers across the country? Is it a DID YOU GET THE MEMO? advertising campaign?

What do you think would be effective?

Help DFA make sure that every American knows the truth about the Downing Street Memo!

Link to add your ideas:

http://petition.democracyforamerica.com/page/s/downingstreetmed

I'm don't know if a agree with her, but I'll defend to the death her right to entertain me by saying it.

Researchers may be very careful about "impugning the motivations" of even the most obvious scumbags.

However, those of us with more leeway -- commentators, bloggers, coworkers -- we should feel free to use a different standard of evidence.

If it seems really sensible to us to explain things in terms of bad motives, fine.

Researchers and journalists want to use the standards of criminal court -- i.e., you only suggest ulterior motive if you have proof beyond any reasonable doubt.

We ordinary people are free to obey the standards of the court of common sense.

In politics, in a sane world, the weight of evidence would be on officials to prove that they had *good* motives, rather than it being our responsibility to ask the obvious.

Janeane kicks ass... PROPER!

nice.

We need J like we need Dean.

And yes...we NEED Dean.

Chill out. Breathe...that's it..

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

Is it true that they are going to remove half the toilets in all the mens rooms in NYC?

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jim west has found god? yeah. a naked dude pinned down. just what he wants!

Look--a byline!
(I is famous!)

SAM!!!! Cover this idiot!

Whoops I'm sorry I forgot to say who I was emailing to....

Michael Knisley, Editorial Page Editor of the LA Times
this is the article
he's a putz!
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-oe-kinsley12jun12,0,7389890.column?coll=la-sunday-commentary

Great show. Agree with Janeane about the lack of purity re: Perle's motives.

I have two requests.
I would like if if Majority Report could book Jon Lee Anderson for a guest.

I just read about "The Night Letter" at The Common Ills.

I knew nothing about it. Am I the only one in the dark here?

Could you ask Bill Scher about "The Night Letter" and could you please bring Jon Lee Anderson to discuss it?

The Night Letter

The riots in Afghanistan don't appear to have anything to do with Newsweek.

I'm not sure about hyperlinks. In case I didn't do that properly:

http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2005/06/did-night-letter-cause-riots-in.html

Antidote for the surrealistic pillowistic anti-idealistic trial coverage blues....

Get thee to latest Billmon.

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you Go Girl

little boys misunderstanding creation

have problems finding their station

growing up is so bland

michael has neverland

and dubya has the whole fuckin’ nation

Look--a byline! (I is famous!)

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:16 PM

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How great!

It's always great to see progressive sites get their message out.

Well done!

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

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The MZM web-site insinuates without actualy stating, that they are involved in the tying together of the Govt. agencies. They cite the Patriot Act, which leads me to believe that they are somehow involved with the co-ordinating of the systems to link the agencies under the Department Of Homeland Security.

That is my interpretation anyway.

Gew tiw meeting dawt cawm

The "Go To Meeting" lady's Australian(?) accent is so fucking annoying that I have to turn down the radio when she comes on.

Somebody should throw Janeane out of the show. She is absolutely destroying the show quality ...thoroughly.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:09 PM

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Nah...she just needs to be wrangled occasionally.

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

Posted by: Chuck at June 13, 2005 09:11 PM

How diplomatic of you, Chuck....."wrangled." *snark*

There's another "cowboy" saying that would better apply: something about ridden & put away.

I still love My Hottie...Red Bull rants & all!

wanda I seriously don't understand what's your problem with Janeane. This is what we need. PASSION!

Posted by: HoneyBearKelly at June 13, 2005 09:12 PM

passion without intellect lead to dogmatism. let me ask you this: did you udnerstand or recall what was being said, the underlying reason why intention isn't particularly usefull in policy analysis?

I don't think you recal. You were just looking for the scream. (ie. as a result you dont' even know what perle roles is in his analysis.)

Sam reminded me of Larry King's interview of Mark David Chapman several years ago.

Chapman claimed he "found god," and converted a lot of his fellow inmates. Later, King asked Chapman's lawyer, "Do you like him personally?" in such a tone that I felt as if King liked him. His lawyer said, "Oh, certainly. He is a very likeable guy."

I thought, "Uh... He killed John Lennon."

"Very cuddly and loveable dude."

"He killed John Lennon."

"He is a good, decent christian man. What a commendable guy!"

"He. Killed. John. Lennon. He. Is. Insane."

"Yeah... He is such a god-fearing man...decent, decent man."

American is for morons

wandas on the rag.

Look--a byline! (I is famous!)

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:16 PM

Nobel Nominated

Rest of my post, part 2

Usual freelance chatterboxes? Um, the memo said: " “The NSC had no patience with the UN route.” in the very same paragraph. Are you calling Condoleeza Rice a "Chatterbox"?

And you obviously didn't read the second page of the memo.
“The Foreign Secretary [Jack Straw] said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided.”

Now you say that "everyone knew" we were intending to go to war with Iraq (well some of us "paranoid extremists" (how dare you!) did know he was planning on it actually, like Amy Goodman) but Bush said "I've not made up our mind on military action." Grammatical mistakes aside, (because he never speaks right), he said this over and over as he was PLANNING the war with BLAIR and this was two weeks before we decided to go to war, and at that very time we were BOMBING Iraq, illegally, to try and goad Saddam into war, and had been for 1 and a 1/2 months before then!

Point of fact, Bush and Blair discussed going to war with Iraq 9 days after 9/11. Where was the LATimes coverage on THAT?

In fact, Bush dreamed about invading Iraq before he was even president. If you check rawstory.com you will see the time line and what happened WHEN. He said he wanted to invade Iraq in 1999.

I'm getting so sick and tired of lazy and sycophantic journalism. That my friends and I now have to turn to foreign sources to find out what is REALLY going on, what the TRUTH is, is a testimony to the lack of journalistic integrity in the corporate controlled media now. You and your fellow press corp that indulge in such shenanigans should be ashamed of yourself. You have abandoned your duty to be the 4th estate, your journalistic repu

wandas on the rag.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

and fuck you too.

Gitmo is good.

How many people in Gitmo have been convicted of anything?

NONE!

"Could this memo sink Bush"....Nahhh, Shit floats!

Posted by: Bushleague at June 13, 2005 09:06 PM

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shit only floats if your diet is high fat.

If you eat lean, it will sink

Closing Gitmo won't help. Theyll just build another one

During the Bush Sr. and Clinton Administration when we had the "Peace Dividend", the Carlyle Group (Bush and John Major were investors) and I am sure others bought out Defense contractor companies for cheap and consolidated the investment money in anticipation of carrying out the Neocon agenda where they make billions from supplying weapons for the new wars in the Middle East to control the oil and any other natural resource they could control or steal.

.....Producer, you really are messing up this time. No show quality control whatsoever.

At Guantanamo they get to vote if they want to be beaten or water-boarded. Democratic punishment

How diplomatic of you, Chuck....."wrangled." *snark*
There's another "cowboy" saying that would better apply: something about ridden & put away.
I still love My Hottie...Red Bull rants & all!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at June 13, 2005 09:20 PM

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You must have missed the "Trashcan Sinatras" show.
THAT was when I noticed she can go a little...um..off message. Let's be nice on that.

Don't get me wrong...I absolutely LOVE Janeane.
She just needs to be balanced.

And yes..I have naughty thoughts :)

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

Gitmo is good.

Posted by: idealist at June 13, 2005 09:23 PM

you're an idiot.

No DLC Dems in Amnesty International.

Come to GITMO!

It's a FASCIST FIESTA!

Another fine IDEALOCON family vacation resort.

Rats, part three:

Benito Mussolini said that Fascism "should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.

Who holds the purse strings of the LA Times?

Goebells said:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Do you really want to help in the facilitation of Fascism??? Because you ARE. Look into your soul, Mr. Kinsley, and stop lying. Or at least stop buying the lies. Our Democracy depends on the integrity of journalism, it's our first amendment, and I expect the truth from our media, and shouldn't expect anything less.. (and yes I wrote to Time as well.)

Retract and Recant!


Joy Williams

says cheney they sleep like a log

and never ever chased by a dog

whatever you say

quantanamo bay

is a republican resort and not a gulag

passion without intellect lead to dogmatism. let me ask you this: did you udnerstand or recall what was being said, the underlying reason why intention isn't particularly usefull in policy analysis?

I don't think you recal. You were just looking for the scream. (ie. as a result you dont' even know what perle roles is in his analysis.)

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

I for one do recall what she said. and I followed her reasoning, which i actually agree with. And I found the subsequent parody of the author's attitude toward those policy-makers he's critiquing to be funny and right-on. If Janeane is so loathsome, quit listening and go read all of the policy books Janeane has already read and brings up every show!

wandas on the rag.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

women can't be trusted.

Look--a byline! (I is famous!) [http://www.blogforamerica.com/archives/006457.html]

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:16 PM

Brava, Renee!

*applause*

Cool Beans To Renee!!

Congratulations on all your work!!

Duncan Hunter, the hijackers are DEAD U JACKASS!!

SENSENBRENER == BOSS TWEED

P.S. We The People are THE ETHICS COMMITEE!!

someone...

send him something other than the menu.

He said he wanted to invade Iraq in 1999. I'm getting so sick and tired of lazy and sycophantic journalism. That my friends and I now have to turn to foreign sources to find out what is REALLY going on, what the TRUTH is, is a testimony to the lack of journalistic integrity in the corporate controlled media now. You and your fellow press corp that indulge in such shenanigans should be ashamed of yourself. You have abandoned your duty to be the 4th estate, your journalistic reputation, and your dedication to the TRUTH. Beni

Posted by: Fancy Pants Elitist at June 13, 2005 09:22 PM

Isn't that what the former Treasury Department guy said when he published his book last year? The Downing Street Memo just means that Britain was as aware of Bush's intent long before the Anerican public was.

wandas on the rag.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

women can't be trusted.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:25 PM

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Please stop it.

Tasteless.

And BE NICE!

:)

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

Hey, "Abusive Penile System?"

That was my nic name in college!

Nah... I never went to college.

*lol* Sam!!

Gitmo is good.

Posted by: idealist at June 13, 2005 09:23 PM

you're an idiot.

Posted by: idealist at June 13, 2005 09:24 PM

I agree.

Duncan Hunter has been in Congress for nearly 30 years.

He also said that the American people should support Reagan during the Iran-Contra scandal by looking the other way.

That sounds like a date rape defense.

"What's she cryin' about? She got fed, didn't she?"

Evenin', everybody.

SAM i'm just gonna email you this rant.... I think you need to expose Michael Kinsley Editor of the Editorial Pages of the NY Times.

Here's his lame article

I for one do recall what she said.

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:25 PM

what HE says... his reasoning. TO which Janeane couldn't give cogent counter argument...and just blathering all over and then he laugh.

Posted by: idealist at June 13, 2005 09:23 PM

What, like in French or something?

Look--a byline! (I is famous!)

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:16 PM

Cool beans, Renee!

Evenin', everybody.

Posted by: trubblemaker at June 13, 2005 09:27 PM

TRUB!

you gotta take wanda in greater context....

...she down with j when she likes what she hears....

and she really hates j when she doesn't like what j is saying.....

ADVICE: don't get wound up trying to tell wanda why she shouldn't hate janeane..... just let her be wanda......

-disclaimer: - this statement may or may not be accurate....

If Janeane is so loathsome, quit listening and go read all of the policy books Janeane has already read and brings up every show!

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:25 PM

then point me out where I can get live feedback on Iraq analysis being presented after the harper article.

Elaine, thanks for the link.

So "The Night Letter" was circulated in Afghanistan and it called Karzai a toady of the U.S. and called for people to rise up?

That explains the riots.

I agree that the distraction of blaming Newsweek was also an effort to keep the news about the reality of Afghanistan clamped down on.

I hope they discuss this. I don't know John Lee Anderson but The New Yorker has been one of the few mainstream news sources breaking news what with Sy Hersh and Jane Mayer. I'd like them to have him on the show to discuss "The Night Letter."

Great show tonight. But please talk about "The Night Letter."

American even....sigh...I hate how typos or bad spelling can completely compromise your point. How can a person form an intellectual thought when they can't even form a simple word?

wandas on the rag.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

and fuck you too.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:22 PM

ehhhhhhhhh!

I like the earthy aussie accent

Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:23 PM wrote:
"If you eat lean, it will sink"
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Very interesting. I would like to see the shitty whaling vessels sink as well as the shitty sealing vessels, the shitty factory farms, the shitty vivisection torture labs, etc., etc..

A boy can dream. Anyway, Have you posted your pretty pic with No Whaling sign at:

http://whales.greenpeace.org/

Good liberals (like you and me) are opposed to whaling.

wandas on the rag.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

Is that...Donald Rumsfeld?

assion without intellect lead to dogmatism. let me ask you this: did you udnerstand or recall what was being said, the underlying reason why intention isn't particularly usefull in policy analysis?

I don't think you recal. You were just looking for the scream. (ie. as a result you dont' even know what perle roles is in his analysis.)

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:21 PM

As it happens I do recall what she was talking about.

How about you recalling that this is a radio show?
If Janeane were in the halls of power I would expect her to behave more civilly.

Or maybe not.

Look at what Tex Sensenbrenner and Dickhead Cheney get away with.

I'm out

before I go, I want to say...

Let's not impune a Stalin or a Hitler's motives.

Such men are misunderstood. They were idealists. The tens of millions who they killed... Well, who is to say that one man's vision of utopia is wrong?

I'm out.

Way to go, Renee!

I'm out

before I go, I want to say...

Let's not impune a Stalin or a Hitler's motives.

Such men are misunderstood. They were idealists. The tens of millions who they killed... Well, who is to say that one man's vision of utopia is wrong?

I'm out.

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at June 13, 2005 09:32 PM

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What the hell was that?

um...die? How 'bout that Jeff Dahmer? Do ya feel bad for him?

-Chuck

BlackWednesday.org

...once you realize you actually don't know shit, you instantly become smarter than 90% of the population....

»one's experience of life is like the first 3 pages in a 1,000 page book«

what HE says... his reasoning. TO which Janeane couldn't give cogent counter argument...and just blathering all over and then he laugh.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:27 PM

Her point was that the assumption about Perle's personality or ideological/policy stance was wrong because it was not based on the evidence we all have of Perle's character: the deceitful briefings, false reports, secretive meetings, and myopic policy building and fact-finding, ETC. It isn't that hard to find that information, people have been exposing it for years, now. His point was that calling Perle (or anyone) a liar or whatever makes the author looked biased and he won't be considered 'fair' enough in his criticisms. That the fucking problem with the media now generally--criticism is "bias" or treason! It's a slippery slope to be on, and Janeane was arguing, as she often has, that cowering to that does no one any good. Furthermore, that there was plenty of reason to say, "hey, this guy is power-hungry and demented and will stop at nothing to get his way." HE offered no alternative to THAT.

idealists can be wrong.

DICK CHENEY IS A FAT OLD BITCH!!

Britain, by the way, has pledged an extra 5,000 troops to cover Bush's ass in Afghanistan in the search of bin Laden. Jesus. Jackin' off. Christ. What's it going to take?

wanda I seriously don't understand what's your problem with Janeane. This is what we need. PASSION!

Posted by: HoneyBearKelly at June 13, 2005 09:12 PM

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Wrong! "Passion" is precisely what we do NOT need.

What we need is clear, calm, logical thinking. The truth, not "passion," will set us free.

Evidence against the Bush administration is overwhelming. We must keep fronting the evidence - over and over again - and the evidence will speak.

Trial lawyers have an old saying: "If the facts are with you, pound the facts. If the facts are against you, pound the table."

The facts are with us on this one. So why does Janeane so often insist on pounding the table?

Some of us don't give a shit about your feelings, Janeane, because this is not about you. It's about the dead kids in Iraq, the U.S. troops who are being betrayed, and the millions of Americans who lack medical insurance.

Not about some self-involved actress who lucked into a radio show.

We will win with facts and persuasion. Not with this sort of childish, hyper-emotional, ego-driven melodrama.

Remember...Hitler got elected chancellor of Germany by appealing not to people's intellects, but to their emotions.

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As it happens I do recall what she was talking about.

Posted by: HoneyBearKelly at June 13, 2005 09:32 PM

no. what HE says. what HE says, his reasoning why analyzing intension isn't that much use in policy analysis. (and Janeane hung up on perle isn't idealist..perle isn't idealist...)

He quickly conclude that he is talking to a moron after Janeane couldn't give reasonable argument to back up hers. To which any reasonable should conclude that she is a moron.

Ask her ....if she can explain why Perle isn't an idealist. I BET YOU $10 SHe won't be able to answer you except giving you more gum flapping.

Chuck at June 13, 2005 09:34 PM wrote:
What the hell was that?

um...die? How 'bout that Jeff Dahmer? Do ya feel bad for him?

-Chuck
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I think it was sarcasm.

-QV

http://whales.greenpeace.org/

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Closing down Gitmo would be a satisfying symbolic act followed by some other way of caging and torturing people whose only crime (for the most part, maybe a few exceptions) was being Muslim in the wrong place, at the wrong time. More special renditions and such. The problem goes so much deeper than 1 concentration camp or gulag.

Arnold 'hitler youth wanna be' Schwarzenegger is calling for a special election, send that sob back home so that he can be all by his fascist self. ;)

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Biden is so irrelevant.

Thanks everybody!

By the way, have you all seen this? It's hilarious!

Your Daily Sack o' Dick

Wanda -- it's a radio show. If you don't like it -- don't listen.

Or better yet, get your own show.

You are a bright (girl/boy/whatever) why waste your intellect on getting inflammed by ether?

no. what HE says. what HE says, his reasoning why analyzing intension isn't that much use in policy analysis. (and Janeane hung up on perle isn't idealist..perle isn't idealist...)

He quickly conclude that he is talking to a moron after Janeane couldn't give reasonable argument to back up hers. To which any reasonable should conclude that she is a moron.

Ask her ....if she can explain why Perle isn't an idealist. I BET YOU $10 SHe won't be able to answer you except giving you more gum flapping.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:36 PM

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You got it, Wanda. I agree with you.

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Close Gitmo now.
Bring the troops home and let the Iraqis and Afghanis own and operate their own businesses.
Bring the jobs home instead of outsourcing.
Fix Medicare so that the government can negotiate with the drug companies.
Universal healthcare like they have in other countries which would help people and businesses financially spread the cost out.
Leave Social Security alone or raise the cap if necessary.
Higher paying jobs so people can afford to live and buy more, increase flow of money, profits and more money going into Social Security that has worked well since it's inception in the 30's and a healthcare plan that will work just as well by the same principles.
Public Impeachment trials for everybody from the Bush administration
Public trials for the so-called terrorist so that people will hear the truth.

I have to agreee with Wanda sometimes. I don't know if it's the Red Bull or the Adarol or both, but sometimes, Janeane gets WAAAAY out there. You guys think she's at her best when she's angry, well, you might think it's cute n'all, but it seems to cloud her rational thinking. Now, WE can do that, but Janeane has to be able to defend herself with logic and reason.

When Dean started getting heat, I threw him $50

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:35 PM

Obviously, ... lol. you don't understand what was being said either... *shakes head* I sort of suspect you are Janeane. (ie. perle is not an idealist..perle is not an idealist...) Nevermind the argument why such analytical approach is not usefull in the context.

i really am beginning to think the Republicans do indeed fear Howard Dean. I think they would prefer to run against Hillary, a sure victory for them, rather Dean. I think Dean's message of total frustration is once again gaining steam and this is instilling fear in our fat bellied republican friends.

Frankly, i want to Joe Biden in 08', but Dean will do...providing he does not waiver...

Bush never looks at a pole?

I don't think so!

Ask ol' Gannon / Guckert about that one.

I'm so glad we had this conversation aren't you, you idealic assholes,

Show sounds like right b e f o r e the drums beating for pre-march to impeachment.

Fukin-a right b-a-b-y Miles (MF) Davis "T-U-T-U" playin on iTunes with the MR turned up full-blast and Janeane's ass all over the place.

I followed the Majority Report link and gave Dean $50

Washington, D.C.- Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee issued the following statement in response to the recent attacks in the media of Governor Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee:

“Chairman Howard Dean deserves our undivided support from the Democratic Party. Now is a time for us to be united in our efforts and speak directly to the people. Governor Dean speaks to the hearts and minds of the American people, and he is unafraid to squarely address issues such as the need for guaranteed voting rights in America, rising to the challenge to protect Social Security, and working together to solve the health care crisis.

“Chairman Howard Dean has worked hard for the last six months to reach out to each part of the country and to share the new pathway for Democrats, both at the national, state and local level. He has let the American people know that among Democrats, ALL Americans can find a home. Such statements reflect the core values of our party and must be unanimously embraced.

“The position of Chairman of the party by nature requires leadership that understands the core democrat values and how they will benefit this nation. I believe that Chairman Howard Dean emulates such values, and should continue to work diligently to spread our message.

Chairman Howard Dean has a heart, and I will take that heart any day over weak words alone. Thank you, Chairman Dean, for all of the work you do.”

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Julian--I agree, that's "all" we need to do, or have you forgotten anything? I like your attitude.

EXCUSE YOU MORONS, BUT IF YOU'D READ OUR NOBEL PRIZE NOMINATED BLOG, YOU'D KNOW:

Dean got the neocons to accuse him, in essence, of being POLITICALLY INCORRECT.

Ta-da!

that was michael's form of sarcasm chuck....

no worries.....

The "Authentic" Dean:

"Now that we're there, we're there and we can't get out," "The president has created an enormous security problem for the US where none existed before. But I hope the president is incredibly successful with his policy now that he's there."

DNC Chair Howard Dean

Minneapolis Convention Center, 04/20/05

He quickly conclude that he is talking to a moron after Janeane couldn't give reasonable argument to back up hers. To which any reasonable should conclude that she is a moron.

Ask her ....if she can explain why Perle isn't an idealist. I BET YOU $10 SHe won't be able to answer you except giving you more gum flapping.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:36 PM

Are you listening to the show at all? Did you hear that part? It was right! there!

And go find your own analyses of Iraq and the Harper article. Subscribe to the magazine. I do. It's cheap. Read the letters to the editor the next day. Write down the sources Karl Meyer argues with in his books and articles and go read THEM for further analysis. Jeeez. Janeane is a radio host, not your mommy.

Julian--that wasn't meant as a criticism, but when it was too late I saw that u might take it wrong--I liked your to do list.

I don't think Janeane's rants are cute. They're truthful.

If you call them cute, you insult her and her intelligence.

We will win with facts and persuasion. Not with this sort of childish, hyper-emotional, ego-driven melodrama.

Remember...Hitler got elected chancellor of Germany by appealing not to people's intellects, but to their emotions.

Posted by: Dreanm at June 13, 2005 09:35 PM

That's just what I'm talking about.

The Democrats have been hitting them with the truth for years.
Where has it gotten them?
They need to get where people live. In their hearts because their minds are just not involved.
I wish it was different but it's not.

Wanda -- it's a radio show. If you don't like it -- don't listen.

Or better yet, get your own show.

You are a bright (girl/boy/whatever) why waste your intellect on getting inflammed by ether?

Posted by: Ken Warner at June 13, 2005 09:39 PM

==========================

Ken W: I can't speak for Wanda, but I think sometimes it's important to actually HEAR, RESPOND TO, AND DEBATE points I disagree with on radio shows. Rather than just passively turning off the radio and walking away.

If you can't handle hearing constructive criticism and skeptical comment about the show, why are you on this blog?

Wanda -- it's a radio show. If you don't like it -- don't listen.

Posted by: Ken Warner at June 13, 2005 09:39 PM

I cant fucking help it. I already drop Friday Majority report when it's all Janeane.

I like Sam's work. Most guest are great too.

It's the tart that poops all over the place that I can't stand. She only knows exactly one trick: "ranting"

The howard feindouche is soo into the bushco that they must have pictures of him with jeff gannon or with somebody of that friendly persuasion.

From: High-Decibel Dean Silent On Iraq

The surprising thing is not that big-money Democrats have been holding back but that the DNC's small-donor direct mail and online money has been coming in more slowly than expected. Former DNC Chair Terry McAuliffe predicted that the committee was on a track to raise $100 million this year; estimates now are that they will raise only half that. In his defense, Dean counters that raising a million dollars a week ain't bad.

Dean's folks say it takes time to build a program and that their pitch that money is needed to build 50 state parties is turning on the spigot. Last week, one of Dean's more effective fundraising gimmicks during the presidential campaign started to work again. The gaffe attacks raised him $100,000 online, just like the attacks from his opponents did during the primaries.

http://tinyurl.com/7lsrh

Be brash like Dean!

If Michael Jackson has any kind of common sense,....

Posted by: Patriot

The two do not blend well.

I don't think Janeane's rants are cute. They're truthful.

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at June 13, 2005 09:42 PM

then point me out to documents that prove solid evidence that gaffney has relationship with Israel as she described. (remember she was ranting then)

this has never been found by anybody, let alone by that ranting moron.

"Ranting" is always an inherently dumb thing to do.

I don't think Janeane's rants are cute. They're truthful.

If you call them cute, you insult her and her intelligence.

Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at June 13, 2005 09:42 PM

I wasn't insulting her intelligence, I was referring to the indulgent attitude of the bloggers where Janeane is concerned. If I was going to insult anyone's intelligence, I'd want to do so to their face.

GO DEAN!

COCK-PUNCH CHENEY!

BITCH SLAP CHENEY'S MOMMA!

.......producer.....WHAT THE FUCK was that?

I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't use a shofar to indicate greedy money grubbing corporatists, thanks.

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:35 PM

Obviously, ... lol. you don't understand what was being said either... *shakes head* I sort of suspect you are Janeane. (ie. perle is not an idealist..perle is not an idealist...) Nevermind the argument why such analytical approach is not usefull in the context.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:40 PM

You are beyond lame. "You are Janeane!" is your counter argument?! Give me a fucking break. Are you 11?

Thanks for thinking I'm Janeane. Any comparison is a compliment.

GO READ MY RESPONSES. His argument and Janeane's are laid out there. If you still think I'm confused, YOU tell us what his argument was beyond "Janeane said no idealist! Janeane said no idealist!"

Let's not concentrate on the blog opinion of Wanda--who gives a flying fuck?

I don't.

Wanda--you strive to be a pot stirrer.
You are distracting the blog!!!

STFU!!!!!

GIMME SOMMA JANEANE'S "SWEET BLACK LUSHUS PEECHUZ!"

Hey Smithee--hi!

High-Decibel Dean Silent On Iraq-

but it's worse than that since he says we must "stay the course" or words to that effect. He's right about his ranting against the Republicans and Fox and all that good stuff, so I'm not inclined to criticize him, but that's no f-in good anymore. Almost all the Democrats still think that we have to stay the course. No, we don't, we need to get the hell out before thousands more on both sides die.

Government provided by A Clockwork Orange

both Sam and Janeane's rant...but Sam tend to have more data points to back up his rants. But i started to get annoyed at the coint collection/baseball card bit he kept playing over and over. it wasn't that funny imo...

i think sometimes they all try too hard to bash. there so much negative about this administration, you shouldn't need to stretch and reach to find it...

richard perle is soo full of shit that he has no credibility at all. Not to say that he had it to begin with anyway. ;)

“I think Democrats have largely been backed into a corner on Iraq,” said Judith Hope, a DNC executive committee member from New York. “While most of us believe we should never have gone in there in the first place, many of us believe that now that we’re there, we have no choice but to finish the job. It would be both immoral and dangerous to bail out of that part of the world, given what we know today.”

http://tinyurl.com/dtv5m

Your Daily Sack o' Dick

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:39 PM

that guy is pyscho. he is about appealing as a,
as a robot! he just jelouse because Dean is alive.

Like on star treck when Data didn't understand humans.

#

I wasn't insulting her intelligence, I was referring to the indulgent attitude of the bloggers where Janeane is concerned. If I was going to insult anyone's intelligence, I'd want to do so to their face.

Posted by: trubblemaker at June 13, 2005 09:47 PM

I am calling her a moron for a VERY solid reason. You want to come back tomorrow and dissect the audio archive? You defend the idea that Janeane knows what she is doing, and me ....she is a total y out of it.

No, Janeane - you DON'T just say YES.

Sam is right: YOU HAVE TO EXPAND THE POINT.

Again, again, again you're letting your emotions get in the way of your thinking.

Jaenane, I'm tired of your hysteria. Why must you keep hurting our cause by making yourself into such a cartoonish stereotype of a shrill, self-righteous lefty?

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:40 PM

Hey everybody. I'm Janeane, and I just wanted to say that Sam Seder is one fine-looking man. Now excuse me, I have to go finish the yardwork in front of pruil's house.

The law of web forums is the biggest asshole always gets the most responses. If we can break that law here, that's all good.

Janeane is hot and cold, depending on her personal mood. Sometimes she gets so angry she loses her verbs, some night she's so on the ball, witty, brings cool music and information to the mix.

Get over your own rants and listen, or don't.

Has this been discussed on the blog yet?

[a href="http://tinyurl.com/8aowq"]1986 conviction of George W. Bush, Jr. for Unlawfull Practice of Medicine[/a]

1} Is it real?
2) Is it another fraud planted by Rove designed to blow up in Dan Rather's or the librrl mejah's face?

You are beyond lame. "You are Janeane!" is your counter argument?! Give me a fucking break. Are you 11?

You are 9-11! And you are Janine, with Skin Zinc, not Janeane.

So there!

For I hath neener'd uponst thy beyotchypie self, and left thee disinvigorated and wan!

Now get off the floor and clean yourself up, we've got company.

This "we gotta finish the job," line about Iraq is bullshit. We ought to say "We fucked up, very sorry, Bye."

Don't you think Janeane should always try to find a way to say NO to Hanity?

Oh, well.

I am calling her a moron for a VERY solid reason. You want to come back tomorrow and dissect the audio archive? You defend the idea that Janeane knows what she is doing, and me ....she is a total y out of it.

You could have offered decent reasons for the last hour, and you failed.

If you need attention, get a pet rock to endure you all day.

The shofar is to indicate a call to hear and listen to a message of truth, not to indicate greedy money grubbing corporatists.

GO READ MY RESPONSES. His argument and Janeane's are laid out there. If you still think I'm confused, YOU tell us what his argument was beyond "Janeane said no idealist! Janeane said no idealist!"

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:48 PM

please type again.

What was HIS reasoning he mentioned on air WHY he thinks such line of analysis, the one Janeane advanced, is not particularly usefull in his opinion... (I asked you TWICE) You still dancing around and can't give the answer.

we need to get the hell out before thousands more on both sides die.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at June 13, 2005 09:49 PM

I agree completely. However, that is not in any way the view of the DNC. At the leadership level, the democrats are largely a Pro-War party.

But don't let that stop you from sending them money or anything.

Has this been discussed on the blog yet?

1986 conviction of George W. Bush, Jr. for Unlawfull Practice of Medicine

1} Is it real?
2) Is it another fraud planted by Rove designed to blow up in Dan Rather's or the librrl mejah's face?

We mustn't be mean.

After all, the Republicans have been really, really mean.

And they haven't won any elections, have they?

then point me out to documents that prove solid evidence that gaffney has relationship with Israel as she described. (remember she was ranting then)

this has never been found by anybody, let alone by that ranting moron.

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 09:46 PM

C'mon, wanda, we all know he has connections to Israel. And the Kennedy assassination. Why the hell do we need documents? :)

If you need attention, get a pet rock to endure you all day.

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:52 PM

lol. ...you are as dumb as a pet rock.

Ken W: I can't speak for Wanda, but I think sometimes it's important to actually HEAR, RESPOND TO, AND DEBATE points I disagree with on radio shows. Rather than just passively turning off the radio and walking away.

Posted by: Dreanm at June 13, 2005 09:43 PM

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But neither you nor wanda have posted any original ideas; thoughts; analysis; undiscoverd facts etc.

All you both do is bitch about someone elses tone.

That is not very constructive. At least JG has ferver and passion which we need to counteract the limpy Dems.

True, Not the same GWB.

Trubblemaker....you're right, some bloggers just say the rants are cute, because they're so enamored with Janeane. Too often they don't actually listen.

How much will it cost???

An honest question. Ask that of our Nixonian Neocon lovers all the way up and thru the Pentagon & Armed Forces and see what Rummy does.

What we say to the public about the money and what we do are two different things.

So ideologue's thinkin' they have a blank check. . . and anyone who tells is purged.

PRESS RELEASE NO. 8

PRESS! PRESS! PRESS! PRESS! PRESS! PRESS! PRESS!

June 12, 2005

CONTACT INFO:

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Recall Arnold Movement
Owner, Grassroots-CA-OH-FL
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hankramey@hotmail.com
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Dot, Moderator
Grassroots-CA-OH-FL
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GRAND TERRACE, Calif.-California liberal progressive activists are announcing that an initiative drive to put the California Honest Voting Act of 2005 Initiative on the Ballot has commenced. The Official “Title and Summary” has been issued by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer’s Office on June 7, 2005. The Deadline to obtain over 600,000 signatures is November 3, 2005. The initiative, if enough signatures are obtained, will be on the JUNE 2006 Ballot at the earliest.

Hank Ramey, whose prior foray in any initiative was a failed Initiative in 1990 in Bell Gardens, regarding an Amendment to the General Plan is planning with a message board and others into circulating the Honest Voting Act for more likely the June 2006 Ballot.

“We don’t think that we would get on this November’s Ballot”, Ramey said, “even if any of Arnold’s ((Schwarzenegger) Initiatives did qualify for the November Ballot. We are OPPOSED to all of Arnold’s Initiatives, because he favors hospitals, businesses, and far-right educational activists. We believe at Grassroots-CA-OH-FL (standing for Grassroots-California-Ohio-Florida) that the Democrats and Greens should recall Arnold, and send a message to the minority Republican Party that we want progressive changes in California Government, and we will not have a Governor who curries with the REAL special interests. Hell, we didn’t like Gov. Gray Davis for being the Dialing for Dollars Governor!”

The Title and Summary reads:

“ELECTIONS. ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES. INITIATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. Prohibits electronic voting in a

We mustn't be mean.

After all, the Republicans have been really, really mean.

And they haven't won any elections, have they?

Posted by: el cid at June 13, 2005 09:53 PM

====================

We mustn't be mean
to our man Howard Dean.

On Hannity, Dick had the front,

Took a shot at Dean, said "Being blunt,

His mom's his one fan,"

But he's jealous poor man,

'Coz his own mother thinks he's a c*nt.

But neither you nor wanda have posted any original ideas; thoughts; analysis; undiscoverd facts etc. All you both do is bitch about someone elses tone. That is not very constructive. At least JG has ferver and passion which we need to counteract the limpy Dems.

Posted by: Ken Warner at June 13, 2005 09:54 PM

obviously you are new around here.

When you talk about loving cheese too much, you've degraded to the wacky morning zoo crew style radio I so despise. I shall not participate. Good day to you.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Your Daily Sack o' Dick

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at June 13, 2005 09:39 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

thanks for the nice rundown of the many faces of dick....

my favorites includes:

joy

thoughtful

sad

and this one too....

fibrillating

Right, Smithee; and even tho I don't have much money (even though we don't have money, I'm so in love with you honey...never mind), I sent $10 bucks and a note saying I like what Dean is doing. I hope a million other frustrated Dems do the same!

On another subject--I like a good rant. I like hearing them and having them. Those damn neocons are making us frustrated and that's what happens.

mmm... cheese!

SYNA ! How many times have I told you not to wear my clothes. And, stop calling yourself Wanda.

*shakes head*

bye JIK.

have fun.

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

#

Peaches!

Someone tickle Garfololo before she implodes or hyperventilates or something!

b!

p!

Damn fine show, even finer blog tonight. FINALLY some engaging dialog.

imPeaches!

Howard Dean keep kicking the crap out of the reich-wingers.

That person who choose to change french fries to freedom fries is a moron and owes this country an apology. It's ironic the reich-winger to call them freedom fries ,yet he's ordering the name change.

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:52 PM

I am still waiting for your answer. (tho' personally, I think you have no idea what was that)

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

memo sink bush

#

Perhaps having a gander at the Prince of Darkness' Web of Idealism will help some folks come to their own conclusions.

There are short sighted people who are interested in making as much money off of whoever and whatever oportunities they come across. These are called Opportunists who will say anything and do anything for a buck what Janeane was refering to. They don't care about democracy otherwise they would not have screwed this up so bad that it costs us so much money and Bush gives his friend several huge tax cuts and government contracts, cuts back on educational and social programs for poor, widowed and seniors.

it takes a lot of guts to say that you got it wrong, particularly if you made a complete dickhead of yourself. i think we need to be a little more gracious, Jeanine.

Red

Scorpion!

On another subject--I like a good rant. I like hearing them and having them. Those damn neocons are making us frustrated and that's what happens.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at June 13, 2005 09:57 PM

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Exactly! Work it out with passion!

All you both do is bitch about someone elses tone.

Posted by: Ken Warner at June 13, 2005 09:54 PM

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No, I wasn't bitching about Janeane's tone. I was bitching about her inability to hear what the man was actually saying, and her refusal to muster a fact-based rational counter-argument to his position (which, as a radio host, she should have been able to do).

bush sink memos

bush sink memos

bush sink memos

bush sink memos

%

Posted by: 1942tyu at June 13, 2005 09:59 PM

Representative Walter "Freedom Fries" Jones has sponsored a bill in the House requiring the Bush admin to produce a timetable for Iraq withdrawl. Howard Dean, OTOH, is pushing to stay in Iraq.

I never thought I'd ever be comparing an anti-war rethuglican and a pro-war dem. What a crazy world.

lol...

Karl! How are you? Is the puppet taking a nap?

#

--The Best of Oingo Boingo--

Good thing it is cyber-cast....Otherwise we get only one hour of the show due to lame programming here in Phoenix.

Don't know why they hired the KF-Whino in the morning, but he's there anyway.

I'd rather go back to hearing the entire show instead of discussion about who Michael Jackson is.

No, I wasn't bitching about Janeane's tone. I was bitching about her inability to hear what the man was actually saying, and her refusal to muster a fact-based rational counter-argument to his position (which, as a radio host, she should have been able to do).

Posted by: Dreanm at June 13, 2005 10:03 PM

-----------------

If you get your own show. I promise to listen carefully to what you say.

Now, if you all want a good rant...Malloy

Posted by: Carla snarlah at June 13, 2005 09:57 PM

Whatever floats your boat. Personally I'm against the war, so I don't send Dean money.

red scorpion

Psychotic Karl Rove

The moron 'freedom fries king' needs to be voted the hell out. What an embarrassment for the people of NC. They also have that reich-winger dole as senator who hasn't produced one damn positive thing yet. dumbasses.

I don't care what color you paint it ,for it still doesn't change its smell none it's still skunk.

Posted by: k.rove at June 13, 2005 10:07 PM

OMG! That's going on my screen saver slide show! LMAO!

ImPeaches, gang!

Now that I've lost everything to you

You say you wanna start something new

And it's breakin' my heart you're leavin'

Baby, I'm grievin'

But if you wanna leave, take good care

I hope you have a lot of nice things to wear

But then a lot of nice things turn bad out there

{Refrain}

Ooh, baby, baby, it's a wild world

It's hard to get by just upon a smile

Ooh, baby, baby, it's a wild world

I'll always remember you like a child, girl

You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do

And it's breakin' my heart in two

Because I never wanna see you a sad girl

Don't be a bad girl

But if you wanna leave, take good care

I hope you make a lot of nice friends out there

But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

Beware

{Refrain}

La-la-la la la...

Baby, I love you

But if you wanna leave, take good care

I hope you make a lot of nice friends out there

But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

Beware

{Refrain twice}

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call in your opinion at...

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Good Show!

Thanks!

ImPeaches!

Peaches everyone. Going back to work and listening to Malloy.

No, Smithee, I really had to think hard about that little check--I'm really against the war too. I thought I'd made that clear at some point. But I'm against Democratic corporatists harassing Howard Dean too. If you ignore the neocons or try to get along with them, they walk all over you. You gotta hit them, at least with strong words. All that being said, Howard Dean is the latest smokescreen for what's really being done to us and the people of the world. Also, attacking the messenger, as you may know, is a common logical fallacy known as 'ad hominem'. It proves nothing.

Karl Rove, Doormat

»It must be one of those weird White House "trust exercises". . . You know, "fall backwards into Andy Card's arms, lie under the wheels of Air Force One, invade a country because Dick Cheney feels lonely. . . "«

Go Tito, Go

Posted by: Carla snarlah at June 13, 2005 10:12 PM

A common disconnect I've found in democrats is that they say they're against this illegal oil war, yet support a pro-war party and vote for pro-war candidates. I dunno. It's just weird.

As far as Dean and corporations go, well, check out his record as Vermont Governor.

I never watch TV news anymore, but was at the laundromat--CBS featured Jackson, but second up was that 60% of Americans are against the war in Iraq now, and it was a major story; then they actually mentioned Gitmo in some detail. I think this is a good sign.

Posted by: pruil at June 13, 2005 09:52 PM

Anybody seen this pruil person before?

Yes. I read pruil.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 10:21 PM

I've never seen that handle before. is it new?

Oingo Boingo does the "Weird Science" song?

Ick. I don't like Oingo Boingo.

Pruil has been here many times, Wanda.

Guess you didn't notice?

It was raining. That hot, grimy kind of rain that doesn't clean anything, just leaves a rotten, briny smell behind, like riverbank corpses. I sat in my office reading the racing form. Business was slow as an untipped bartender. There was a knock on the door. On the other side of that frosted glass, a classy looking blur, jet-black hair, about five-two, three, wearing something red as my thoughts. I took a last drag on the smoke from between my lips and dumped it in the cheap coffee from across the street.

"Come in."

The door swung open, and the brunette sashayed across my office as if she knew what I was thinking and didn't give a damn. Without saying a word, she dropped a file on my desk, fat as a crooked mayor, and with as many convictions on it, I'd bet. She leaned in, close enough that I got a faceful of expensive perfume, and whispered.......

Peaches!

pruil is not new.

Yeah, Malloy and the planes never flew into the buildings. GIve up, put on the tin foil hat and relax.

Pruil has been here many times, Wanda. Guess you didn't notice?

Posted by: freedom toast at June 13, 2005 10:23 PM

he did? when was the first time this handle was used?

so much hypocrisy... so little time to catch it all....

i seemed not to catch this statement from bunnypants... mind you this is 10 months before the Abu Gharib story broke...

»The United States is committed to the worldwide elimination of torture and we are leading this fight by example.«

- President George W. Bush - June 26, 2003

pruil posts on al franken and unfiltered too way back into last year.

Yeah, Malloy and the planes never flew into the buildings. GIve up, put on the tin foil hat and relax.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 10:24 PM

more of a thinking cap with a foily lining.

Recommend you read the piece by Karl Meyer in Harper's -

FORTY YEARS IN THE SAND: WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME FREEDOM MARCHED ON IRAQ

Just because the interview focused on the intent of the ideologues/idealists/imperialists/neo-conservatives/delusional rapture-believing wingnuts (whichever label you prefer) regarding the invasion of Iraq should not dissuade you from checking out this article.

What is surprising is that the British did not learn the lessons from their own history. Perhaps-- this is the reason why the revelations about the "scheme" to invade Iraq keep coming from the British government. At least, they were considering the consequences and the aftermath of the invasion--the occupation of Iraq.

Good article which describes the parallels of the two invasions of Iraq. The Iraqis have responded to both invasions and occupations in the same manner--by fighting against the outsiders. The parallels in history are haunting.

Pruil has been here many times, Wanda. Guess you didn't notice?

Posted by: freedom toast at June 13, 2005 10:23 PM

he did? when was the first time this handle was used?

Posted by: wanda at June 13, 2005 10:24 PM

No idea, my dear.

Do your own research.

pruil posts on al franken and unfiltered too way back into last year.

Posted by: ixnay on the pruiltay at June 13, 2005 10:25 PM

oh, don't know much about those blog. How about MR blog? is that handle new here?

Pumpkins!

er, no, that's not it...um...

Peppers!

(drat!)

The planes flew into the buildings, but there is compelling evidence that the multiple steel supports at the middle of the buildings could not possibly have melted in the resulting fire. The 9/11 Commission then lied, and said they were single steel beams. They were not! Such a structure has never caved in from that kind of crash and resulting fire before or since. Then building 7 went later in the day--no plane crash. Read David Ray Griffin before you get so cocky about tinfoil hats. And remember, if 2 people are involved in an action--that's a conspiracy!

No idea, my dear. Do your own research.

Posted by: freedom toast at June 13, 2005 10:26 PM

k. thanks

do you think that Peaches just HATES JG at this point??

btw: what was the name of the guy that Malloy just quoted? I wanna google him.
Thanks!

not a new name here either.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2005 10:30 PM

what name is not new? I am confuse.

"Of course, I haven't made up my mind we're going to war with Iraq." [10/1/02]

"Hopefully, we can do this peacefully?don't get me wrong. And if the world were to collectively come together to do so, and to put pressure on Saddam Hussein and convince him to disarm, there's a chance he may decide to do that. And war is not my first choice, don't?it's my last choice." [11/7/02]

"This is our attempt to work with the world community to create peace. And the best way for peace is for Mr. Saddam Hussein to disarm. It's up to him to make his decision." [12/4/02]

"The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons...And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes." [9/26/2002]

"I expected to find the weapons [because] I based my decision on the best intelligence possible...The evidence I had was the best possible evidence that he had a weapon. [2/8/2004]

What website gave out Janeane's address?

Building 7 was destroyed by controlled demolition. I've heard the audio where they explained that they had to "pull" it because of the damage it had suffered and the danger it posed to nearby buildings.

http://tinyurl.com/6cqew

That means that demolition explosives were already present in the building since there would have been no opportunity to set them up during the emergency. Were they also present in the two towers? Do other NYC building have demolition charges built into them?

-Mark (relining my tinfoil cap)

nutyo. when stalkers stalk the other stalkers.

could be like a TV show.

;) i kid.

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I think that building explosives into high-rise buildings could be rather dangerous, don't you?

I think that building explosives into high-rise buildings could be rather dangerous, don't you?

Posted by: Carla snarlah at June 13, 2005 10:44 PM

Ya think?

And it would be an awful awful temptation to "terriers" if they knew about them.

You mean tairists, don't u?

GOD BLESS JEANENE GAROFALO !

SPEAK FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR COUNTRY!

SPEAK FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTER!

SPEAK THE TRUTH....

SHINE THE LIGHT ON THE TERMITES THAT ARE EATING OUR NATION DOWN.

Posted by: ALL AMERICA at June 13, 2005 07:56 PM

JANEANE GAROFALO IS A WORTHLESS SLUT

SHE DOESN'T HAVE A MAGNIFICENT BRAIN

SHE SUCKS

FREE MICHAEL JACKSON

WE HATE U JANEANE

PULL DOWN UR PANTS RICHARD PERLE; WE WANNA SEE UR ARSE

KILL EVERYBODY

JANEANE IS GOD; MAKE HER PRESIDENT

WHERE'S MY BAD BREATH BIBLE

IS CARLA SNARLAH ON THE RAGS; NO IT'S WANDA

WHY IS EVERYBODY SHOUTING

I'M GOING TO BUY SOME LUNCH

OK, BON APPETITE

THANKS

WOT?

I SED THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!