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May 16, 2005

THEY JUST CAN'T HELP LYING

Sadly, much of the media will fall for this bullshit.

Posted by not sam at May 16, 2005 4:58 PM

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Comments

Sploing

Posted by: Spling at May 16, 2005 5:03 PM

Dos!!!!

Posted by: Bart at May 16, 2005 5:04 PM

FROST !!

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:06 PM

Hey Jim, Give my love to Darlene!!!

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:07 PM

hee hee!

Dar says Hi backatcha!

she's still goin thru dizzy vertigo,

says it's worse than being seasick.

says to tell u all she loves u

and misses the ol bloggie.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 5:09 PM

We miss you Dar........

Posted by: RWiley at May 16, 2005 5:10 PM

So when is the Majority Report going to go to the new blog format ??

Posted by: Fred at May 16, 2005 5:11 PM

eya fred

u mean like Lauras bloggie?

don't think they are,

where did ya get

that from?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 5:14 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: NEWSWEEK STATEMENT ON QUR'AN STORY FROM EDITOR MARK WHITAKER: New York-"Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Qur'an abuse at Guantanamo Bay."

LINK

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:17 PM

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 04:54 PM

You got it figured out nora, but the one

thing to keep in mind is the US major media

networks are in tight with Bush Inc.

Anything they make a big story is nothing more

than a prop for Bush Inc. and to protect their

vested corporate interests.

I think "Rathergate" was a friggin' set up

and CBS was in on it, take a story that was

true and could be backed up by the secretary

of the guy that thought Bush Inc. was worthless

and then add the fake documents to spoil the

story that otherwise would show Bush Inc.

to be the non-top gun he was.

"Rathergate" was a set up, take a story that

had the goods and throw shit on it before

you report it so your fascist masters can

call "foul".

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:19 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 5:19 PM

Newsweek report on Quran matches many earlier accounts
RAW STORY

Contrary to White House assertions, the allegations of religious desecration at Guantanamo published by Newsweek May 6 are common among ex-prisoners and have been widely reported outside the United States, RAW STORY has learned.

Several former detainees at the Guantanamo and Bagram airbase prisons have reported instances of their handlers sitting or standing on the Quran, throwing or kicking it in toilets, and urinating on it.

Where the Newsweek report likely erred was in saying that the U.S. was slated to acknowledge desecrating the Quran in internal investigations, and in relying on a single anonymous source to make grave allegations. But reports of desecration are manifold.

One such incident—during which the Koran allegedly was thrown in a pile and stepped on—prompted a hunger strike among Guantanamo detainees in Mar. 2002, which led to an apology. The New York Times interviewed former detainee Nasser Nijer Naser al-Mutairi May 1, who said the protest ended with a senior officer delivering an apology to the entire camp.

"A former interrogator at Guantanamo, in an interview with the Times, confirmed the accounts of the hunger strikes, including the public expression of regret over the treatment of the Korans," Times reporters Neil A. Lewis and Eric Schmitt wrote in "Inquiry Finds Abuses at Guantanamo Bay."

LINK

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:19 PM

The hunger strike and apology story was also confirmed by another former detainee, Shafiq Rasul, interviewed by the UK Guardian in 2003 (James Meek, "The people the law forgot," Guardian, Dec. 3, 2003) It was also confirmed by former prisoner Jamal al-Harith in an interview with the Daily Mirror (Rosa Prince and Gary Jones, "My Hell in Camp X-ray World Exclusive," Daily Mirror, Mar. 12, 2004).

The toilet incident was reported in the Washington Post in a 2003 interview with a former detainee from Afghanistan:

"Ehsannullah, 29, said American soldiers who initially questioned him in Kandahar before shipping him to Guantanamo hit him and taunted him by dumping the Koran in a toilet. ‘It was a very bad situation for us,’ said Ehsannullah, who comes from the home region of the Taliban leader, Mohammad Omar. ‘We cried so much and shouted, Please do not do that to the Holy Koran.’ (Marc Kaufman and April Witt, "Out of Legal Limbo, Some Tell of Mistreatment," Washington Post, Mar. 26, 2003.)

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:20 PM

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:17 PM

Gosh, that's a surprise !!

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:21 PM

You are right Jim...they were told to retract the story by the emporer in charge. Can't get anything out on the news. This is horrible. The only way to get the country back is to fight. I see a civil war brewing here.

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:26 PM

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:19 PM

No toniD, that can't be where the Afghanis

got the story, everyone knows that every

Afghani subscibes to Newsweek !!

LOL

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:27 PM

later blog

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:26 PM

you maybe right,maybe its "Rebel Alliance" Vs

"Empire" time?

Posted by: Bart at May 16, 2005 5:29 PM

Issued by the National Whistleblower Center:


Washington, D.C., May 16, 2005 -- Richard G. Convertino, a 15-year veteran prosecutor for the U.S. Department of Justice, resigned from his government job today and will immediately take on the defense of a Michigan State Trooper who has been charged with 2nd Degree murder in the April 14th fatal shooting of an assailant.

Mr. Convertino's voluntary resignation was in protest to the government misconduct he reported in a major terrorism prosecution and the failure of the Department of Justice to enforce his rights under the Privacy Act.

Mr. Convertino, who has been battling with the Justice Department for almost 2 years, says he has been waiting for the right time to leave the Department. ''I know what it is like to be falsely accused of having motives I do not possess. The injustice of charging this Trooper for murder, in what is clearly a self-defense shooting, has given me the right reason to leave.''

?The DOJ had not requested the resignation and his decision to leave the agency was not part of any settlement or negotiated deal. Instead, by resigning from the DOJ, Mr. Convertino will immediately open a private law practice in order to aggressively defend other victims of government abuse.

Posted by: Kevin at May 16, 2005 5:30 PM

I was just wondering. Have we given up on Delay in order to chase Bolton around the room? We don't seem to stay focused. And now this Newsweek mess. And the Senate is about to bust Kofi Anon's chops. This is turning into a cluster fuck. By the time the dust clears. Bolton and Delay will both have slipped the noose just like Gannon did. Who is in charge here?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:30 PM

Can't get anything out on the news. This is horrible.

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:26 PM

toniD, I've said it many times, you my friend

are one of the most reliable sources of news

in the sense that you have an excellent filter

for the bullshit the US fascist media propaganda

brothels mix with every important story.

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:31 PM

Sunshine Jim: Ms Flanders said that Fraken was next followed by the others in time ....

Posted by: Fred at May 16, 2005 5:32 PM

Last night I was thinking about all we had going for us in the late 60s and early 70s that served to nourish the possibility of an anti-war movement--and that we no longer have:

o REAL coffee houses and live folk music bars--Today we've got Stahbucks everywhere siphoning away our coffee highs (even burning us out by doubling the caffeine content!) so we have nothing left for getting coffee wired and talking politics and art all night, listening to counter culture music!
o Real radio freedom that played counter culture music, and anti-war songs could take a crack at becoming Number One Single!--Outside AAR and Pacifica, is anyone allowed to play music that speaks to the reality of our time on earth here and now? Where can anti-war songs be broadcast?
o News shows that actually reported about the war in Vietnam--Today there's a blackout on facts and coverage.
o A presidential administration that did not censor the visual images about troops in war and the death and wounded numbers--Today we don't even know how many people have died in total as a result of this Bush War, either our troops or Iraqis; we have no numbers on how many troops have died from wounds after leaving Iraq. The Bush Gang says it is against Privacy Etiquette to film and photograph the wounded or coffins (even though the Bush Gang's dedication to "etiquette" was nowhere to be seen when they turned Teri Schiavo's last days into a media circus).

Having said this, can AAR please figure out a way to play more of the music of protest and questioning? WE NEED A SOUNDTRACK FOR CHANGE!

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 5:33 PM

I am so upset. I have written to Newsweek to cancel my subscription!

Posted by: Afgani Peasant at May 16, 2005 5:34 PM

Apparently the uproar over the Koran is spreading even though B* and News Week have offered retractions...The last place difficulties were breaking out was Pakistan. Pakistan... the Muslim country with Nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Fred at May 16, 2005 5:35 PM

Bass Ball! I get it! The instrument not the fish. It's been a long day.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:35 PM

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 05:33 PM

nora, something else we don't have that

the had in the late 60's and early 70's

is Walter Cronkite and a 5th Estate whose

corporate soul has been sold to the devil.

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:36 PM

polyheme

Posted by: polyheme at May 16, 2005 5:38 PM

I see a civil war brewing here.

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:26 PM

Ha ha ha ha.. You see ac civil war? What a joke that is. The minister of propaganda is calling of a civil war. You and frngy fighting it out with the U.S. Army Third Armored Division.

You Fucking Boneheads. Get a J.O.B.

frank

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:39 PM

Malloy use's the Eve of Destruction(Barry McGuire) in his commercials, great protest song.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:40 PM

tysabri

Posted by: tysabri at May 16, 2005 5:40 PM

I am so upset. I have written to Newsweek to cancel my subscription!

Posted by: Afgani Peasant at May 16, 2005 05:34 PM

ROFL

Yes, yes, Newsweek is sorry, very sorry,

they were just kidding really, just wait

until the next edition and you'll see on

the cover;

US Throws Geneva Convention in the Toilet:

JUST KIDDING !! JUST KIDDING !!

So don't cancel your subscription and

keep living without that extra bag of

barley for the family.

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:42 PM

The liberty option, the patriot option

Posted by: smirky mcwhiteguy at May 16, 2005 5:43 PM

How a Fire Broke Out
The story of a sensitive NEWSWEEK report about alleged abuses at Guantánamo Bay and a surge of deadly unrest in the Islamic world.

By Evan Thomas
Newsweek


May 23 issue - By the end of the week, the rioting had spread from Afghanistan throughout much of the Muslim world, from Gaza to Indonesia. Mobs shouting "Protect our Holy Book!" burned down government buildings and ransacked the offices of relief organizations in several Afghan provinces. The violence cost at least 15 lives, injured scores of people and sent a shudder through Washington, where officials worried about the stability of moderate regimes in the region.

The spark was apparently lit at a press conference held on Friday, May 6, by Imran Khan, a Pakistani cricket legend and strident critic of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf. Brandishing a copy of that week's NEWSWEEK (dated May 9), Khan read a report that U.S. interrogators at Guantánamo prison had placed the Qur'an on toilet seats and even flushed one. "This is what the U.S. is doing," exclaimed Khan, "desecrating the Qur'an." His remarks, as well as the outraged comments of Muslim clerics and Pakistani government officials, were picked up on local radio and played throughout neighboring Afghanistan. Radical Islamic foes of the U.S.-friendly regime of Hamid Karzai quickly exploited local discontent with a poor economy and the continued presence of U.S. forces, and riots began breaking out last week.

Late last week Pentagon spokesman Lawrence DiRita told NEWSWEEK that its original story was wrong. The brief PERISCOPE item ("SouthCom Showdown") had reported on the expected results of an upcoming U.S. Southern Command investigation into the abuse of prisoners at Gitmo. According to NEWSWEEK, SouthCom investigators found that Gitmo interrogators had flushed a Qur'an down a toilet in an attempt to rattle detainees. While various released detainees have made allegations about Qur'an desecration, the Pentagon has, according to DiRita, found no credible evidence to support them.


How did NEWSWEEK get its facts wrong? And how did the story feed into serious international unrest? While continuing to report events on the

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:45 PM

How did NEWSWEEK get its facts wrong? And how did the story feed into serious international unrest? While continuing to report events on the ground, NEWSWEEK interviewed government officials, diplomats and its own staffers, and reconstructed this narrative of events:

At NEWSWEEK, veteran investigative reporter Michael Isikoff's interest had been sparked by the release late last year of some internal FBI e-mails that painted a stark picture of prisoner abuse at Guantánamo. Isikoff knew that military investigators at Southern Command (which runs the Guantánamo prison) were looking into the allegations. So he called a longtime reliable source, a senior U.S. government official who was knowledgeable about the matter. The source told Isikoff that the report would include new details that were not in the FBI e-mails, including mention of flushing the Qur'an down a toilet. A SouthCom spokesman contacted by Isikoff declined to comment on an ongoing investigation, but NEWSWEEK National Security Correspondent John Barry, realizing the sensitivity of the story, provided a draft of the NEWSWEEK PERISCOPE item to a senior Defense official, asking, "Is this accurate or not?" The official challenged one aspect of the story: the suggestion that Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, sent to Gitmo by the Pentagon in 2001 to oversee prisoner interrogation, might be held accountable for the abuses. Not true, said the official (the PERISCOPE draft was corrected to reflect that). But he was silent about the rest of the item. The official had not meant to mislead, but lacked detailed knowledge of the SouthCom report.

As reported by MSNBC, Newsweek's Parent

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:47 PM

You Fucking Boneheads. Get a J.O.B.

frank

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 05:39 PM

Go fuck a mule, frank!!!!!

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:48 PM

There's a rude person saying innapropriate things on a blog. What can I do?

3. If they are really obnoxious, find a liberal political organization or charity you really love, and encourage others to donate a small amount of money to it every time the troll continues to offend. (for example, if he's trying to bait you on judicial nominees, you might start a "$1 a post" drive to the ACLU.) When they discover their work is funding the "enemy" they might just quiet down.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:48 PM

There is no way that if hostilities bkoke out in six or seven major US cities at the same time that the regular army could do a thing about it.

I would take over Cheyenne Wyoming and Omaha Nebraska first.. Then you might have 600 or so ICBM's you could hot wire.. That should cause some bathroom activity at the White House.

If you riot remember to take the fight to the wealthy part of town first... If the army makes it another Falluga they will destroy the Rethug support base and worse yet there precious possessions.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:49 PM

toniD, come on, we all know the guys and gals

that beat prisoners to death, piled them up naked

on the floor and took pictures, let dogs tear holes

in their asses, put bags over their heads and had

them kneel in the Cuban sun, most assuridly these

guards wouldn't do something as hideous as tearing

pages out of a book and throwing it in the toilet ?!

Come on now, that's beyond acceptable !!

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:50 PM

NEWSWEEK was not the first to report allegations of desecrating the Qur'an. As early as last spring and summer, similar reports from released detainees started surfacing in British and Russian news reports, and in the Arab news agency Al-Jazeera; claims by other released detainees have been covered in other media since then. But the NEWSWEEK report arrived at a particularly delicate moment in Afghan politics. Opponents of the Karzai government, including remnants of the deposed Taliban regime, have been looking for ways to exploit public discontent. The Afghan economy is weak, and the government (pressed by the United States) has alienated farmers by trying to eradicate their poppy crops, used to make heroin in the global drug trade. Afghan men are sometimes rounded up during ongoing U.S. military operations, and innocents can sit in jail for months. When they are released, many complain of abuse. President Karzai is still largely respected, but many Afghans regard him as too dependent on and too obsequious to the United States. With Karzai scheduled to come to Washington next week, this is a good time for his enemies to make trouble.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:54 PM

I heard a sound bite from the Whitehouse's Scotty Mac today, about Newsweek's not following jounalistic standards by basing the Koran story on a single, anonymous source.

I'm I the only one that sees the bloody irony in this?

Isn't that what they based the ENTIRE Iraq War on? Anyone remember "Curveball?"

Posted by: citizenrebel at May 16, 2005 5:54 PM

That must have been The Boss.

Posted by: Kevin at May 16, 2005 5:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 05:49 PM

Agree, all rebel bases should be constructed

in the richest guy in town's basement.

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 5:55 PM

I thought I had heard it all. So who are you going to get to fight your civil war? Before you say dumbass shit like that you should look in the mirror. Get a feel for who the fuck you are. Then go knit a pair of sock for the grandkids. Your talk of war is pathetic.

Blaming Bush for your miserable life. Nothing is of you own making and choice. It all happened in the last four years because of Bush. Wake up and smell the coffee while you still can. Bush didn't make your genetics. Nor did he give you your education. Or your relationships with men. It is your bed, get comfy!

frank

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:56 PM

hey. frank is back. #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:57 PM

Overseas base report critical of Rumsfeld yanked from website
RAW STORY

A government commission studying overseas military bases sent Congress a report critical of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld May 9, then removed the document from the commission Web site after the Pentagon complained that it divulged classified information, the Washington Post's Mike Allen will report in Monday's paper, RAW STORY has learned.
Excerpts follow:

The panel contends that the 262-page report is based only on public sources, and several commission officials say they believe the Defense Department came down on them so hard because their conclusions include harsh criticism of some elements of Rumsfeld's strategy for streamlining the military.

An official involved in the discussions, who refused to be named, said the Pentagon's primary complaint appeared to be that the report specified Bulgaria, Poland and Romania as countries U.S. forces would rotate through for training, rather than using a more vague regional identification such as eastern Europe....

According to e-mails that an official involved in the dispute read to The Washington Post, Barry Pavel, the Defense Department's director of strategy on global posture, wrote to Cornella on May 7 to warn of "the potential need to conduct an investigation regarding violation of security classification procedures, including the IT-related aspects (eg, possibly having to clean your servers, etc)."

LINK

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 5:58 PM

i think i've been on the blog a year now because
last summer everyone imitated frank. and that was
when i found it here. yes. and now i can't leave#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 5:58 PM

how pathetic. #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:00 PM

During WWII about four thousand French under ground people kept 45,000 German troops chasing them around for three years.

This time of the year argiculture in the midwest is in full swing and ADM reports that sales of Nitrate based fetilizer is up more than 20% over last year... yet fewer acres of land are under cultivation...hummm.. No report yet on Diesel fuel futures.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:00 PM

isn't this a show blog? why isn't is moving faster?#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:01 PM

frank

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 05:56 PM

frank, I told syna and now I will tell you. Do not address me, make coments about me any more or I will report you. Understand! I don't care what you have to say but I will not take your abuse any more.

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 6:02 PM

isn't this a show blog? why isn't is moving faster?#

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:01 PM


At the moment its a pre show blog... show is in 59 minutes... 58 minutes... 57 minutes

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:03 PM

Newsweek today made an official statement:

JUST KIDDING !! JUST KIDDING !!

REALLY, WE WERE JUST KIDDING !!

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 6:03 PM

....NEWSWEEK National Security Correspondent John Barry, realizing the sensitivity of the story, provided a draft of the NEWSWEEK PERISCOPE item to a senior Defense official, asking, "Is this accurate or not?" The official challenged one aspect of the story: the suggestion that Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, sent to Gitmo by the Pentagon in 2001 to oversee prisoner interrogation, might be held accountable for the abuses. Not true, said the official (the PERISCOPE draft was corrected to reflect that). But he was silent about the rest of the item. The official had not meant to mislead, but lacked detailed knowledge of the SouthCom report.

As reported by MSNBC, Newsweek's Parent

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 05:47 PM

Funny how this means the Bush Gang had lead time to plot a counter attack on this (since the Newsweek article went to press at least a couple weeks ago). Similar to the Barry situation, the Rather news piece, also was shared with the Bush Administration for response before broadcast, right?

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 6:04 PM


Report me to who? To Nobody? This bunch of fat, lazy, dope smokin rejects couldn't raid the Greater Des Moines Quilt Guild meeting without getting their asses kicked.

Now you are going to knock over Cheyenne Mountain? Reality check - everybody run and look in the mirror. What a pack of fuckin boneheads!

frank

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:07 PM

Well frank can't read either..... Warren AFB is at Cheyenne Wyoming which is the definition of the middle of no where. Warren is the command center for all the ICBM's in Wyoming, Nebraska, South Dakota and Colorado.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:10 PM

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 06:04 PM

Yep

I keep telling you folks, every US media

story has to be filtered and never pay

attention to anything they say about it

after they say it.

The Newsweek story is a fix, they're trying

to sway the light off of the other sources

that back the main premise of the story.

Come on folks, give up your US media networks,

they've died and become souless zombies.

Every once in a while you'll get a nugget of

truth, forget the bullshit sandwich it's

wrapped in.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:12 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:12 PM

TypeKey is a bullshit sandwich too.

Posted by: Ajax [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 6:13 PM

Come on folks, give up your US media networks,

they've died and become souless zombies.

Every once in a while you'll get a nugget of

truth, forget the bullshit sandwich it's

wrapped in.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:12 PM

Yep, you are right. News is all bushnews now.

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 6:14 PM

Aparently the Clericks arn't buying the retraction.... There are now riots in Pakistan.

Posted by: Fred at May 16, 2005 6:15 PM

Well good luck with your revolution. Planning the overthrow of the United States Government is a federal crime. But since it's the Three Stooges doing the planning, I think you will only do about 20 years in prison.

You fucking Boneheads!

frank

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:16 PM

An open letter to The New York Times

As a media watchdog, we believe self-examination by news organizations is always useful, so we welcomed the arrival of The New York Times' recent report, "Preserving Our Readers' Trust." Because a democracy cannot operate without an independent, critical, and responsible press, it is incumbent on news organizations to continually assess their own performance to see if they are fulfilling their obligations to the public. Nonetheless, we are concerned about some of the ideas expressed in the report, and we take issue with some aspects of the Times' reporting that the report does not address.

Because of its importance to the functioning of our political and social life, the press will always be subject to criticism and critique. It is the press' obligation to take such critiques seriously; doing so requires not only responding to legitimate criticism, but having the fortitude and integrity to reject baseless attacks designed only to serve a partisan agenda.

If tomorrow the Times ran an article on its front page headlined "Bush is Second Coming of Christ," conservative activists would charge that it proved the paper's liberal bias because it didn't compliment the color of the president's tie. While we do not doubt that many conservatives genuinely believe that the Times, and the press in general, is biased against them, the "liberal bias" charge is above all a political tool they use to obtain coverage more favorable to their goals. All too often, news organizations have reacted to this pressure from the right by attempting to prove them wrong -- not with more objective reporting, but by giving them what they want. "The press responds to critics on the right by bending over backward not to look liberal," noted former Washington Post ombudsman Geneva Overholser. "The cumulative effect is the opposite: They're tougher on Democrats" [Eric Boehlert, "The Press v. Al Gore," Rolling Stone, 12/6-13/01]. Though this tendency is not acknowledged in the report, it has been evident in the Times' reporting on numerous occasions.

LINK

Posted by: toniD at May 16, 2005 6:16 PM

Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 05:33 PM

nora, something else we don't have that

the had in the late 60's and early 70's

is Walter Cronkite and a 5th Estate whose

corporate soul has been sold to the devil.

Posted by: Ajax at May 16, 2005 05:36 PM

Absolutely!

It is time to call this lack of information in our news media what it is: CENSORSHIP.

My question: WHY CAN'T WE JUST SAY THE BUSH GOVERNMENT IS CENSORING THE NEWS? If they deny it, then won't the onus be on the media giants and will they be willing to take the profit-endangering fall for Bush&Co? And If the Bush Government doesn't deny it, then won't the Media Giants be shown as complicit and untrustworthy, also a profit-endangering position. Either way, the fascist rpopagadists get flushed out of their dank holes.

I say we should start using the word CENSORSHIP IN THE FULL FORCE OF ITS MEANING.

If NEWSWEEK can get affidavits that the Koran thing happened, they should get them and challenge the Bush Gang. I don't understand how the Bush Administration's denial that this Koran thing happened can be proved: Did they sieve the GITMO septic tank contents and couldn't find the Koran? This is just obfuscation because it is looking like the torturers' word against the tortured's words. (We already know how Karl Rove feels about those who've been prisoners; Rove showed his stripes when he used character asassination on John McCain back in 2000 (saying McCain was of unsound mind because of Vietnam prisoner of war experience)).


Posted by: nora at May 16, 2005 6:23 PM

wherenm4d?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:25 PM

chalabi

Posted by: chalabi at May 16, 2005 6:26 PM

So the enlightened, intelligent liberals don't get their way so they threaten violence. You guys have more in common with the Muslim terrorists every day.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:27 PM

alibi

Posted by: alibi at May 16, 2005 6:27 PM

so like i was saying,

in a lot of ways the bloggie is basic training,

attitude is as important as ability.

why is as important as how

scroll the trolls

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:28 PM

Outraged by the outrage over the outrage

Apparently Newsweek got it wrong. Fox news has footage of Rumsfeld complaining that "people died".

Maybe they get off on hypocrisy.

Posted by: I at May 16, 2005 6:28 PM

why Muslim terrorists? Couldn't we be Cuban Terrorists or Vietanemese terrorists instead?#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:28 PM

Just remember there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. There will be a day when Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfiwitz, Pearl, Powell and Rice will be turned over to the Hague War Crimes Tribunal for the crimes they have and continue to commit. For the other anti-American fascists we can hope for treason trials followed by deportations or the gallows.

Posted by: MI Blue at May 16, 2005 6:30 PM

well, apparently we give clemency to cuban terrorists.

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at May 16, 2005 6:31 PM

Just remember there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. There will be a day when Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfiwitz, Pearl, Powell and Rice will be turned over to the Hague War Crimes Tribunal for the crimes they have and continue to commit. For the other anti-American fascists we can hope for treason trials followed by deportations or the gallows.

Posted by: MI Blue at May 16, 2005 06:30 PM

And then I will slide down a beautiful rainbow and
be greeted by Angels who will show me how to fly#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:31 PM

good points u brought up nora!

coffee houses?

there then is here now...

care fer a cup of celebes?

write a good hikoo 4 me?

first stanza of a

protest song?

i'll match ya

one fer one!

humor is what they fear the most

because when some one laughs

you know they got the point

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:32 PM

ok to go to war based on lies but outrage over Newsweek's story contributing to deaths.. this is Orwellian ...

also did you see Lou Dobbs top of the hour when they reported the Newsweek story...used a graphic with the headline "NEWSWEAK" on it... I thought I was watching The Daily Show.

its getting crazier and crazier... I feel like I did prior to the election...

Posted by: quantumspin at May 16, 2005 6:33 PM

Anonymus, would be be most likely the type that would learn to swing.

Posted by: MI Blue at May 16, 2005 6:36 PM

*

the most dangerous parts of the gummint

is the nuts behind the wheel!

spoink!

*

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:36 PM

ummmmm


which Anonymous?

we got so many of em...

worse then ticks on a hunting dog!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:39 PM

thanks jimmy. but i have a name. its #

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:40 PM

Because Cubans and Vietnamese don't kill people over a wet book.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:40 PM

I read a few political message boards, and right now I am thinking, "America has completed its transition to 'the dark side.' Most of its citizenry is evil now." Sorry... but it's true. No significant "voter fraud" or "ballot tampering" occured during the 2004 election. Americans are fucking evil, man. I am not going to bomb them or anything, but this place has lost its damn mind.

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at May 16, 2005 6:41 PM

personally

i miss ol

Haiku W...

wooo!

go bush!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:41 PM

OKAY FUNNY BOY! YOU WANT TO GET REAL?

WHAT IF SOMEONE FLUSHED THE BIBLE DOWN THE TOILET?
WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU? OH. AFTER THEY ANALLY
RAPED YOU AND WIPED YOU DOWN WITH MENSTRUAL BLOOD.
WOULD THAT UPSET YOU, OR?#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:42 PM

"thanks jimmy. but i have a name. its #"

of course, was'nt refferrin to u kiddoo!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:43 PM

Knowledge of human nature is the beginning and end of political education.
--Henry Adams, The Education of Henry Adams

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 6:46 PM

yes, and all christians kill over a blastocyst. or should i blame all christians for a few bad apples

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at May 16, 2005 6:46 PM

this place like any other

much as peeps want to stereotype.

the truth is we're all individuals

and the generalizations are inaccurate.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:47 PM

i think i would feel kinda mean after being part
of a naked pyramid. i dunno. doesn't sound fun.#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:47 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:42 PM

I'm gonna say... uh... hmmm...

upset?

yeah.

yeah, I'm gonna go with upset.

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 6:47 PM

yes, and all christians kill over a blastocyst. or should i blame all christians for a few bad apples

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at May 16, 2005 06:46 PM


I don't know who you should blame for the bile I have read today. I think Ameri(k)a is developing a venomous collective attitude.

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at May 16, 2005 6:48 PM

i don't know why they think we Satan. I mean. geez.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:49 PM

hey! here is a mind blowing thing:

What if the people who attacked us on 9/11 were
just a few bad apples, eh? Kinda like our bad apples who have thing for naked pyramids and
butt rape#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:50 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:47 PM

depends.

the right situation, could be dirty, dirty fun.

prison? stacked by American soldiers?

nah.

not so much fun.

at the beach?

with a bevy of lovelies?

whole 'nother story.

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 6:50 PM

Amerikka....

We make shitty cars

and

we make shitty fascists!

Posted by: Weird Homer at May 16, 2005 6:52 PM

I am not a fascist

Posted by: Tony Musollini at May 16, 2005 6:53 PM

i think i would feel kinda mean after being part of a naked pyramid. i dunno. doesn't sound fun.#

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:47 PM

------------------------------------------------

You don't have to be naked if your tut is uncommon: You get a wrap.

And a cat.

Posted by: Crank Bait at May 16, 2005 6:53 PM

Pass The Freakin Freedom Fries!!

Posted by: hungry at May 16, 2005 6:54 PM

the pyramid was the least of the tortures and intimidation that was going on.

i think they let it leak just to piss off folks in the middle east to keep this all going.

the last thing 'W' and the boys want is for peeps to start examining domestic issues

this war is good for a lotta stuff. Bidness, smokescreening, covers up the incredible SNAFU's of the current administration and the mil/ind thefts. nah, they NEED this war big time for a cover up.

"By far the most numerous and most flagrant violations
of personal liberty and individual rights are performed by
governments ... The major crimes throughout history,
the ones executed on the largest scale, have been committed
not by individuals or bands of individuals but by governments,
as a deliberate policy of those governments ...that is, by the official
representatives of governments, acting in their official capacity."


John Hospers

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:55 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:50 PM

not so mind blowing.

on the whole this also is another "depends" situation.

this time it depends on your relative context for your "apples."

fur instins, in what context are the hijackers "bad apples?"

as muslims, they are unquestionably just a few "bad apples."

as terrorists, they're just one o' the gang.

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 6:55 PM

on the whole this also is another "depends" situation.

is that a pun? ooh. bad#

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at May 16, 2005 6:57 PM

hee hee!

wraps and cats

and an occasional smoothy!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 16, 2005 6:57 PM

(05-16) 14:51 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --


Democratic Leader Harry Reid declared an end Monday to compromise talks with Republican leaders over President Bush's controversial judicial nominees, saying their fate along with the future of long-standing filibuster rules will be settled in a showdown on the Senate floor.


"I've tried to compromise and they want all or nothing, and I can't do that," Reid told reporters after a private meeting with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.


With Democrats threatening to block confirmation votes on several of Bush's appeals court nominees, Frist has threatened to change Senate procedures to strip them of their ability to do so. At issue is the filibuster, a parliamentary device that can be defeated only by a majority of 60 votes or higher.


Reid made his comments at the same time a small group of Democrats, who have been meeting with Republicans also eager to avoid a showdown, floated a proposal under which they would clear the way for confirmation of five nominees while scuttling three others.

Posted by: Kevin at May 16, 2005 6:59 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at May 16, 2005 06:50 PM

not so mind blowing.

on the whole this also is another "depends" situation.

this time it depends on your relative context for your "apples."

fur instins, in what context are the hijackers "bad apples?"

as muslims, they are unquestionably just a few "bad apples."

as terrorists, they're just one o' the gang.

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 06:55 PM


*********************************


too much nuance for the average republican.
it needs a white hat vs black hat feel.
unfortunately, any turban looks like a black hat.

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at May 16, 2005 7:00 PM

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I click on my bookmark or AAR, Listen ;ive and get: Service Unavailable (!!!)

The same goes for AAR homepage?

what gives?

Posted by: Chubby_Bubba, Rajah of Bhong at May 16, 2005 7:00 PM

----Reid made his comments at the same time a small group of Democrats, who have been meeting with Republicans also eager to avoid a showdown, floated a proposal under which they would clear the way for confirmation of five nominees while scuttling three others.----

Fuck that. Here is our offer - nothing. We outvote you go to hell! I loveit. On top and a ridin.!

Posted by: Jackass at May 16, 2005 7:02 PM

as soon as I blog my concern, all is back to normal

ah, there's the rich chocolatey sound of Bill Crowley!

Posted by: Chubby_Bubba, Rajah of Bhong at May 16, 2005 7:03 PM

AAR now has Immodium as a sponsor...hmmm, good thing I'm not Crank Bait...

Posted by: Rusty at May 16, 2005 7:05 PM

Newsweek lied - People died. I sould make a bumper sticker otta that!

Posted by: Jackass at May 16, 2005 7:06 PM

Posted by: Kevin at May 16, 2005 7:07 PM

Democracy my ass...

Hey some countries know christian fascist takeover when they see it.


Posted by: pablo at May 16, 2005 7:07 PM

Why are the liberals so upset about a lil koran flushing anyway? They are constantly trying to flush, burn, blow up, or otherwise annihilate the bible or anything to do with GOD. One would think that they would be the first defend this practice as
a 1st ammendment right.

Posted by: ProudRepublican at May 16, 2005 7:07 PM

Where's hour one of the blog?

Posted by: CMinCA at May 16, 2005 7:08 PM

Black IS hi-lar-ious!!!

Posted by: Chubby_Bubba, Rajah of Bhong at May 16, 2005 7:09 PM

Why are the liberals so upset about a lil koran flushing anyway? They are constantly trying to flush, burn, blow up, or otherwise annihilate the bible or anything to do with GOD. One would think that they would be the first defend this practice as a 1st ammendment right.

Posted by: ProudRepublican at May 16, 2005 07:07 PM

Stick your fucking bible up your ass weaseldick!

Posted by: Oh, the insult! at May 16, 2005 7:09 PM

Present

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 7:09 PM

i have on my bow-tie.

Posted by: i am at May 16, 2005 7:10 PM

Lewis Black, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!!


(it's pretty good)

Posted by: spearNmagicHelmet at May 16, 2005 7:11 PM

Listen to J. She's bragging about how clean she can keep her snatch, at work. Funny!

Posted by: Woo Woo at May 16, 2005 7:11 PM

----Why are the liberals so upset about a lil koran flushing anyway? ---

Liberals don't care about religion. Any kind of religion. They just want to attack Bush. But this time it backfired. Just like CBS!


Posted by: Jackass at May 16, 2005 7:11 PM

North Korea is just calling it like they see em

One asshole to another -- last man standing...

Posted by: pablo at May 16, 2005 7:11 PM

Posted by: LEWIS_STOOLE at May 16, 2005 07:00 PM

sho' 'nuff

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 7:11 PM