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Spoingariffic!

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mark felt deep throat i don’t kid

put r. nixon’s presidency on a skid

but the real frustration

it’s like a parking violation

compared to crimes that mr. bush did

A reflection from the end of the first hour:

Animated Poo. Well-funded reactionary propaganda as 2-D toliet humor for grown-ups; South Park Conservatives are walking-talking turds in 3-D. Shit for brains.

Good to see you back here, Nobody. I was asking Sunny Jim where you were only the other day.

I don't like this song...

Spoing--boing, boing!

that's some dreamy shit.

"Parents, The Anti-Drug".

Let me light another pipe to that little commercial. Maybe in 20 years there will be MJ commercials.

Sam's Sexy Announcer voice sounds like Alec Baldwin

Cool! Now I'm talking to the winners from Ireland for the miller competition....

He said they have to do a commercial for the internet and tv saying they like miller beer - but that they actually prefer heineken... :)

Ya

and i told em about you being kidnapped by aiens N!

I love "True" by Spandau Ballet. I was 13 when it was first on the charts, and I still love it. In fact, I proposed to my wife with "True" playing on the stereo. Good times.

I usually like JG's picks -- I became an Old 97's fan after she had them on while sitting in for Letterman..

...but I do NOT dig that song

I am writing from paris, and am employed at the ICC (International Chamber of Commerce (check it out www.iccwbo.org)

I don't agree with the anaylsis given by Janeane as to competition between companies does not improve services. This is COMPLETELY ABSURD AND REPRESENTS AND REPRESENTS AN AMATEUR ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION.

COMPETITION DOES IMPROVE SERVICE IT DOES IT DOES YES IT DOES BLAH BLAH BLAH YEP.

YOU KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE US SYSTEM IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED IN USSR. AS LONG AS THER IS COMPETITION SERVICES IMPROVE BUT IN THE usa THERE IN NOT MUCH COMPETITION GOING ON WHEN MEGA COMPANIES BUY MEGA COMPANIES. IF I AM A COMPANY THAT OWNS ALL OF THE SERVICES IN SECTOR X THEN I CAN PUT WHTEVER PRICE I WANT AND IF THERE IS NO TRUE COMPETITION BETWEEN COMPANIES AND NO SUBVERSION OF YOUR COMPETITORS PRICES BECAUSE YOU ARE YOUR COMPETITOR BECAUSE YOU OWN YOUR COMPETITION THEN THERE IS NO COMPETITION AND YOU CONSPIRE TO FIX PRICES;

COMPETITION IS HEALTHY AS LONG AS THERE REALLY IS COMPETITION BUT IN THE US WITH THE COSOLIDATION OF POWER IN FEW COMPANIES HAND YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THE PRICES USA = USSR

I moved out of the old place and rented it out to a friend...moved into a what amounts to in essence a double wide and a metal building until I get the new place built...it was time to move on ;)

Posted by: Carla snarlah at May 31, 2005 08:01 PM

Not a dog? That's disappointing! On the other paw, this is "the internets". So who knows? You can be a dog who directs movies if you want. Or a rollerskating cat. Or a hampster who ad writes copy for Quaker Oats in her spare time.

If Watergate were now it wouldn't get any MSM coverage.

Hey nobody.
Glad to see ya back.
Rumor was you were sold for body parts.

Janeane!

If you like the song "True" look around for the new Paul Anka album Rock Swings. It's swing-style covers of songs from teh past 25 years or so. Kinda corny...but some of 'em are actually pretty good. It comes out on 6/7/2005, but I got an advance copy last week.

Snarkers!

yip snarka arrf arf!

Jimmy...The aliens don't want me...I ask to many questions and tend to piss them all off

dyan olsen at May 31, 2005 08:04 PM

Well said! I like the way you think.

sing it stefan!

you said it bud...

!

FWIW, c'est vrai is pronounced "say vrEYE" not "say vRAY"
Okay I should rename myself pronunciation cop.

Now how, again, did you 2 spend your 4-day weekend?

yup

thats what i told em!

ain't easy being an alien reject!

bloody witches.

RW..they don't want my body parts either...most of them tend to be a bit dented and rusty...not enough bondo in the shop...

I've seen this before, this "You have to be a member of our state religion." now were was it? I'm trying to remember which country and which time period this was and what the people who had this imposed on them did? Hmm. I just can't remember...

b-b-but... witch!

George is plant!

This anti-Wicca judge is obviously a fuckin looney bird, but what a high for the parents, huh? National exposure!

whoa...massive thunder storm suddenly rolled in...shook the house...it's so weird being able to hear the weather...

I love how Janeane and Sam sneer at anything having to do with a 3rd party, don't you? It's sooo hip!

But if you're interested in reality, here's as good a place as any to start learning...

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Frequently asked questions about the Libertarian Party

What is a Libertarian?

Libertarians believe that you have the right to live your life as you wish, without the government interfering -- as long as you don’t violate the rights of others. Politically, this means Libertarians favor rolling back the size and cost of government, and eliminating laws that stifle the economy and control people’s personal choices.

http://www.lp.org/article_85.shtml

Has anybody brought up the GWB "dis-assembling" quote today? I almost wept.
If so what'd they say?

This is how liberty dies...to the sound of applause

RW..they don't want my body parts either...most of them tend to be a bit dented and rusty...not enough bondo in the shop...

Posted by: Nobody at May 31, 2005 08:12 PM

Damn, now I know Cranky's secret agenda for the Karmann Ghia -- organ donor!

If James Sensenbrenner has his way, mj will never be legal--in fact, if you don't turn in your kids, you'll go to jail! It's insane that pot is still illegal, and even more insane what Rep. Sensenbrenner (Nonsensenbrenner?) is up to!

Hey Jaxxor! Howsa snarky dog?

Oh brother.

Uh, Mark Felt is Deep Throat...

c'est vrai is pronounced "say vrEYE" not "say vRAY"

Quebequoise scum! its pronounced "Say Vrrrrey!"

Monday, May 30, 2005

A Delusional Christian - Read it and weep...
I received the following email:

Our president is a very christian person and God is directing him to everything he is doing.
We have evil in this world, which is absolutely where you are.
Start reading the bible and pray for all the Godly things and not your worldy selfish wants.

Have you heard of the Rick Warren book, The Purpose Driven Life?
I recommend you read this and find a christain family at church where you can pray to God for our president, our soldiers,and our country and thanking Him for the removal of an evil man (Saddham H.) who was killing, raping, starving and torching his own people and children.
They are now being helped by our country to get a life they have never had.
You forget quickly what happened at 9-11 and that we are not under an evil ruler, thanks to President Bush and his devotion to God.
You are free because of them .
Pray for what God wants and not all the worldly selfish wants, which is where you are.
I
s it even worth responding to this woman? If you have suggestions for ways to respond to her, please email them to me.

Jack Clark 9:37 PM [+]
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http://www.therationalradical.com/blog.html

Bill Hicks _is_ back. Or is this the leftover of the Jerry Springer audience?

Nobs!

Good to read ya, Shorty.

Was about to send out a LRRP to pick up yer trail! *snark*

DEATH THREATS!!!
NOBODY better be death threatening AMY GOODMAN!!!

Damn I worry about

Saint Amy Of the UNCLOUDED EYE!

Yarf AlanSmithee!

barkity barka snarfer!

Arf arf arf!

for the Karmann Ghia -- organ donor!

Posted by: Rusty at May 31, 2005 08:15 PM

You could run a K G for a week on the contents of Nobody's bladder.

Sam, I just heard you say that someone practiced Wiccan, and then you went on to say as explanation, "a satinist". That is so wrong on so many levels. First, a person who is a Wiccan DOES NOT have anything at all to do with satan, or satanist. There is no hell, devil or even heaven in Wiccan beliefs. We honor the goddess and mother nature. We have nothing, whatsoever, to do with satan. Belief in the devil is anti-Wiccan. Sorry, I wasn't listening to the report as I was busy writing this.

I listen to Majority Report everyday day on my computer at UCLA at work. You hardly ever get things wrong. Thanks so much for your work. I would like to hear more guests, though, and less phone calls.

Me-ee an-and Mrs... Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones...

Wiccan a thing... goin' on...

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*sigh*

Where has our democracy gone?

also

Hell-o, Hell-o, Hell-o Blog-sters!

Jess poppin' in to say hi!

Hi.

I'll be around. I'm a listener.

...and a citzen.

Shorty?...don't be giving me shit stringbean...I missed you too

The most important thing AAR can do is spread the TRUTH one person at a time.

And you can't do that if every time a Right Winger calls in, you treat him like an asshole and won't talk to him -- or her.

You have to engage people in a conversation. Otherwise, you are just becomming the negative of FoxNEWS / Coulter / Hannity / Scarborough...

goodbye stream yet again for the FOURTHOUSANDTH TIME TONIGHT!!!

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Mark Felt = Deep Throat

"shit stringbean" nobody?

ew...

:)

didja get my email? not sure if it worked from my new machine...got a protocol error....you too sunshine...did it go through?

hee hee!

glad i got the doggers they're own keyboard!

now i got a get a drool shield for it,

jaxxor a two toe typist and he's

learned to use his nose for

ther upper case stuff!

Sam, I just heard you say that someone practiced Wiccan, and then you went on to say as explanation, "a satinist". That is so wrong on so many levels. First, a person who is a Wiccan DOES NOT have anything at all to do with satan, or satanist. There is no hell, devil or even heaven in Wiccan beliefs. We honor the goddess and mother nature. We have nothing, whatsoever, to do with satan. Belief in the devil is anti-Wiccan. Sorry, I wasn't listening to the report as I was busy writing this.

I listen to Majority Report everyday day on my computer at UCLA at work. You hardly ever get things wrong. Thanks so much for your work. I would like to hear more guests, though, and less phone calls.

Posted by: Sara at May 31, 2005 08:18 PM

Sara,
He was talking about a Wicca AND a satanist. 2 different people.

This post I made on the janeane.net forum discusses a great book, Into the Buzzsaw, that exposes the mainstream media censorship that Janeane and Sam allude to:

Into the Buzzsaw

I have to sneeze...great, all over the computer.

Maybe the time out in the corner did the body good.

http://www.indymedia.org

Just thought I throw that out there. I mean we are talking about corp. media. There are a lot of non-blog related indy media sources out there. I really don't like blogs because I think they have been taken over by PR companies. Just my opinion.

http://www.indymedia.org

You cannot convert a neocon. Conversion implies rational thought capabilities.

Haven't looked yet shell...Will later...really crappy phone lines out here...no one lives within miles...I think I know why...O.o

buck up N.

liberty is just getting started....

:)

eya MAT

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heres a cleaner stream for those with Win Media Player

http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=airam/airam/wmlive/live.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx

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oh god do i know THAT feeling Nobody....ack!

call yourself a pioneer...it feels better... :)

you are kidding aren't you.

Does Bill Scher get punished because Monday was a holiday?

Another fine example of the Arthur Anderson school or accounting...

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Probe: Boy Scouts Lied About Black Members

By DANIEL YEE, Associated Press Writer

In one example, an official changed the birth date of 87 Cub Scouts so they would be old enough to participate in the program. In another case, an official continued to report membership of a church Boy Scout unit although the church had burned down three years earlier.

The inflated numbers also included 200 Scout units that did not exist.

../../../weblog/archives/002294.php

liberty just geting started...as I was standing there holding a a 318 block...God damn it kids...hurry the hell up I can't hold this shit up forever

Smithee:

The definition of Libertarianism sounds good; the problem is that it doesn't get into the details, which would be to basically privatize everything, even fewer controls over big business, no taxes to support the commons or those in need, international trade deals that permit further outsourcing of American jobs...and so on. Not too good unless you're rich, and even then--what about maintaining the infrastructure? Not that it's being maintained now.

Coast to Coast has potential...

It's rebroadcast several times on MSNBC...

Another fine example of the Arthur Anderson school or accounting...

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Probe: Boy Scouts Lied About Black Members

By DANIEL YEE, Associated Press Writer

In one example, an official changed the birth date of 87 Cub Scouts so they would be old enough to participate in the program. In another case, an official continued to report membership of a church Boy Scout unit although the church had burned down three years earlier.

The inflated numbers also included 200 Scout units that did not exist.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050531/ap_on_re_us/boy_scouts_blacks

They should at least ask John Perkins what's up with his ultra-new-agey life since he left the "economic hit man" world.

Over and over if I bring up Perkins moderates and conservatives immediately say, isn't he the shaman wannabe? The guy who recommends we all turn into Amazonian tribalists following medicine men? Etc.

i know this much is true...

Craig Bierko? I saw him on Conan once. Not a particularly bright person.

href="http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/bestvintage/photogallery_02.html">Bohemian Grove
Bush,Republicans and Occult
David Gergen and Bohemian Grove
More Of The Occult Bohemiam Grove

seriously though, wiccans are cool.

margaret meade

no gods no masters!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

Monica "666" Crowley is kindof hot, in a leather mistress kind of way.

I think she is lesbian, though. When she interviewed a half naked Mary Carey for the California gubernatorial race, she was _swooning_. And there's nothing wrong with that. :)

A right with Republican too.

I miss David Richey.

Paulo Friere

Debate.

Posted by: Sara at May 31, 2005 08:18 PM

didn't say that wiccan= satanist. the sup. ct ruling involved two people a person who practices wiccan and a person who paratciced satanism

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Sammer Seder!!!

I wanna know what Perkins think we can do about this "cabal" of greedheads?

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Yeah, Anonymous, when I checked out John Perkins' bio, I found that new agey shamanistic stuff disturbing too. Maybe they don't know about it, because it's not really what the latest book is about. And the latest book is certainly important, but I wouldn't want to be trying to explain Perkins' other ideas to a skeptic.

Coast to Coast is a pretty good show...

it's supposed to have that stupid left/right dynamic, but it has much better discourse then hannity/colmes or Crossfire.

Where is the FBI Today?

They all care more about thier Paychecks than the Law, just like the gangsters they are supposed to prosecute.

Dirty cops, do they come any other way?
- - - -
FBI Finds White House Aides Sabotaged Democrats During Election
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53077-2002Jun3?language=printer

They said it included:

Following members of Democratic candidates'

families and assembling dossiers on their

personal lives; forging letters and

distributing them under the candidates'

letterheads; leaking false and manufactured

items to the press; throwing campaign

schedules into disarray; seizing

confidential campaign files; and

investigating the lives of dozens of

Democratic campaign workers.

In addition, investigators said the

activities included planting provocateurs in

the ranks of organizations expected to

demonstrate at the Republican and Democratic

conventions.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at May 31, 2005 08:24 PM

Dunno. Go to the site and read up. (I'm an Unreconstructed Naderite and pretty much agree with everything you just wrote.)

Why do Republicans hate the Constitution?

but I wouldn't want to be trying to explain Perkins' other ideas to a skeptic.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at May 31, 2005 08:27 PM

Why are you talking to me?

Deep in the throat was Felt; a tingle

Urging a search where folks and cash mingle

No clit but heart misplaced

To just below his face

He swore a nix on swallowing Dick's jingle.

A blunt instrument that destroys: a saxophone.

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"I miss David Richey."

yup me too

I believe that was the original version of that song by "Talk Talk."

Sam on TV!

Great!!

Please tell me that this man walking by is not really wearing formal shoes and a robe....

A NEO CON HAS ENTERED MY ZONE!

Ew!

I'll take birkenstock and dark sock guy any day!

Random Excess:

'cause of all the big words, silly.

Maybe Bush will screw up like his father and appoint a Souter-type judge. here's hoping!!!

Maybe something really good will come out of all this.

Coingate....Sam you have to keep on this story..the media has been better but you do such a job explaining what it is happening. This site is from Licking County Ohio... http://www.licopac.org/licking_county_issue_pac/2005/05/coingate_the_sc.html I think it would be great if someone would suggest all Ohioians who are waiting for help from Ohio's Bureau of Workers' Compensation get copies all their information and send it to Gov. Taft...it they have $14,000,000,000 to play with buying coins and baseball cards they certainly can help their citizens.

If you like the song "True" look around for the new Paul Anka album Rock Swings. It's swing-style covers of songs from teh past 25 years or so. Kinda corny...but some of 'em are actually pretty good. It comes out on 6/7/2005, but I got an advance copy last week.

Posted by: whattabummer at May 31, 2005 08:10 PM

I heard Paul Anka's version of Wonderwall. Not really my thing. Hope the others were better.

Yeah, Anonymous, when I checked out John Perkins' bio, I found that new agey shamanistic stuff disturbing too. Maybe they don't know about it, because it's not really what the latest book is about. And the latest book is certainly important, but I wouldn't want to be trying to explain Perkins' other ideas to a skeptic.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at May 31, 2005 08:27 PM

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He lived with very primitive people. Maybe he gained some respect for shamanism and animism from that experience. Living with different cultures gives different perspectivs

Natas selur!

Janeane,
I have news for you-
If Bush stocks the Supreme Court with his brown shirts they will not enforce a Theocracy. The "Bible" Govt. only goes as far as the vote. Abortion the same way- they won't touch it. This is 100% about Corporations and money. So why not leave the religion out of it huh? You really think the judges are going to overturn Roe v Wade? Bush doesn't care about that issue. He doesn't even really care about the Gay marriage issue. This is about corporate America.
Michael

Murders in Ohio, anyone see -B lately?

Stop judging people you don't know.

That's a good start.

Nullis Prentis!

Why do Republicans hate the Constitution?

Posted by: Random Excess at May 31, 2005 08:27 PM

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

They like to walk around saying, "I am the Law," &

"I am the Federal Government."

The Constitution is a threat to their Local Tyrannies of concentrated power.

!!!

The ohio murders were young kids i think.

Stop judging people you don't know.

That's a good start.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:32 PM

WHAT?

what are you talking about?

I s it even worth responding to this woman? If you have suggestions for ways to respond to her, please email them to me.

Jack Clark 9:37 PM [+] Post #111751437231199396

http://www.therationalradical.com/blog.html

Posted by: Jamel at May 31, 2005 08:16 PM

I would advise her to start reading the Bible and to stay away from charlatan pseudo-christian pap. She should start with the gospels so that she can determine who Jesus really was, what he stood for and what he deemed to be a christian life.

The ohio murders were young kids i think.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:32 PM

How old is -B?

I am not an anonymoose, it's me that wants em to ask john about his new ageiness somehow - I do think it tends to make him less credible by far.

I normally groove with JG on music but Spandau Ballet were a POS and "True" is vile Vegas hotel show fodder. Elevator muzak with lyrix.

Robert Smith was right: "You can't drink on an eight hour flight, pass out, and then go onstage... well you can, but then you're Spandau Ballet."

BTW i like john perkins book, but nowadays i just think most people won't relate to him.

Nothing.

A blunt instrument that destroys: a saxophone.

Posted by: William Schubert at May 31, 2005 08:28 PM

I have destroyed more than you!

Postscript-
He (Bush) doesn't care about abortion and Gay marriage unless there is money to be made off of it.
IF a corporation ran an abortion clinic and donated, things would change.
Michael

Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:34 PM

WHAT?

This dude has a crush on Janeane!

did you hear how he said here name!

Geeez what a smooozer!

This is 100% about Corporations and money. So why not leave the religion out of it huh?

The religion analysis is an important part of explaining the quid pro quo so called christians use as a smoke screen for satanism.

That's why.

Stop judging people you don't know.

That's a good start.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:32 PM

WHAT?

what are you talking about?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:33 PM

Why are you telling me?

Nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:34 PM

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...can't argue with the content but the substance leaves something to be desired.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/17/1420232&mode=thread&tid=25

Why are you telling me?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:36 PM

telling you what?

This dude has a crush on Janeane!

did you hear how he said here name!

Geeez what a smooozer!

Posted by: akaMAT at May 31, 2005 08:35 PM

Well...she's Italian from Jersey.

Perfectly logical that she would be attracted to a "hit man"...

iroc uroc weroc.

I went to see Uncle Ralph before the 2000 selection when he came to Boston, and again about a year ago at Umass Dartmouth. He got a lot of flack for running the last time, but I have always liked his politics. I'm quite impressed with Gore Vidal too, especially his inside knowledge of the realities of American politics.

About not being a pup--You'll have to forgive me, I've never been inclined to pretend to be something I'm not, except in little ways for brief times, so I've never taken an online persona to fool anyone. How dull! No wonder I'm not a good actress.

Coast to Coast is a pretty good show...

it's supposed to have that stupid left/right dynamic, but it has much better discourse then hannity/colmes or Crossfire.

Posted by: TruBluJu at May 31, 2005 08:27 PM
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Sometimes it's fucking stupid.
Sometimes it's fucking great.

George Noory and Art Bell seem to like two things:

1.) Stories about the paranormal.
2.) Stories about imminent world doom.

Hence, as a listener you get:

1.) Stupid, boring shows about UFO abduction.
2.) Smart, fascinating shows about peak oil.

Go figure. I'll take what I can get. I tune in at the beginning to see what they're talking about. Sometimes I switch it off. Sometimes I stay up all night, listening (and even taping).

I would advise her to start reading the Bible and to stay away from charlatan pseudo-christian pap. She should start with the gospels so that she can determine who Jesus really was, what he stood for and what he deemed to be a christian life.

hey CmiCA!
I see your still fighting the good fight. It gets tiresome doesn't it? It's so much easier for them to just generalize all Christians as nutcases-- Even though for the first 1950 years it was based on charity!
Michael

Y'all should play Erasure's "Soldier's Return" as a bumper tune! That's my request for these 80's inspired MR shows.

egroeG

hsuB

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loof.

I would advise her to start reading the Bible and to stay away from charlatan pseudo-christian pap. She should start with the gospels so that she can determine who Jesus really was, what he stood for and what he deemed to be a christian life.

hey CmiCA!
I see your still fighting the good fight. It gets tiresome doesn't it? It's so much easier for them to just generalize all Christians as nutcases-- Even though for the first 1950 years it was based on charity!
Michael

eya
eya Carla snarlah

listen to this interview with Gore Vidal

http://video.csupomona.edu/HotTalk/GoreVidal-245.asx

The historian, essayist, playwright and novelist talks with host Saul Landau.

John Perkins is Kurtz.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is Heart of Darness written from the perspective of Kurtz.

we can barely him, he is talking to low and mubblly

If your having streaming troubles, quit Realplayer and try WMP?

I recommend the book "When Corporations Rule the World" by David Korten. It's a good read!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1887208046/qid=1117586270/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-2435390-7924924

How can anyone be a Devils fan and a Christian? Doesn't make sense.

hey CmiCA! I see your still fighting the good fight. It gets tiresome doesn't it? It's so much easier for them to just generalize all Christians as nutcases-- Even though for the first 1950 years it was based on charity! Michael

Posted by: mikedevilsfan at May 31, 2005 08:39 PM

Hello to you too!

I was going to add that this person should visit the sojourners website, since that is christian-based. Their message is very clear. If this person is protestant, he/she would probably be turned off by Andrew Greeley, but Andrew Greeley does have some good articles, through commondreams.org.

This is 100% about Corporations and money. So why not leave the religion out of it huh?

The religion analysis is an important part of explaining the quid pro quo so called christians use as a smoke screen for satanism.

That's why.
Blah blah blah. Tell that to all the Christians that were invloved in the Cival rights movment in th 60's like MLK. A generalization is a generalization and there is nothing "progressive" about it.
M

where is FISHGREASE?

I've always loved reading Jane's. Where else can you keep up to date about the latest dates for the '8th Annual Less-Lethal Weapons Conference'?...And then there's the news blotter, where the specialized terminology includes ROW for 'rest of the world,' as in US military spending will exceed that of the entire ROW, or the rest of the world, in the next 12 months." (Joshuah Bearman)

It's a bitch to think that this occurs so often, they've actually abbreviated 'Rest Of World.'

Greetings.

Read this book!

The Horror.

Even though for the first 1950 years it was based on charity! Michael

Posted by: mikedevilsfan at May 31, 2005 08:39 PM

I can't agree with you completely on this. The theology is based on charity, but in practice, (which is the dogma and religion), it has failed. If you read the Concise History of the Catholic Church, you will wonder why anyone gives Christianity any credence at all.

Can you turn up Johns Mic when you come back too plesae!

ASK PERKINS IF HE HAS A NEW BOOK COMMING OUT!!!!

This Saddam stuff almost makes sense.

I am convinced that Saddam started out as a CIA asset who got independent and could no longer be controlled, so the neocons finally had to take him out.

The oil-for-food scandal and the sales in Euros tend to bear this scenario out, as does the "Big Gun" project with the late Dr. Gerald Bull.

By the millennium, Saddam had become quite a recalcitrant pest for the neocons, as well as a threat to the U. S. economy.

we can barely him, he is talking to low and mubblly

Posted by: akaMAT at May 31, 2005 08:41 PM

If you are truly interested in hearing him, the democracy now interview was really good.

I was going to add that this person should visit the sojourners website, since that is christian-based. Their message is very clear. If this person is protestant, he/she would probably be turned off by Andrew Greeley, but Andrew Greeley does have some good articles, through commondreams.org.

I am a member of www.sojo.net also! Awesome group eh.
Have you read Jim Wallis' book?

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Sammer Seder!!!

I wanna know what Perkins think we can do about this "cabal" of greedheads?

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Weird, unless you're kidding, I THINK they mean a TV show, Coast to Coast, with Monica Crowley and Ron Reagan, Jr., not the radio show with George Noorey and on weekends, Art Bell, Coast to Coast AM

Janeane was saying that fundamentalists are the problem with religion. Are you a fundamentalist?

Windows Media is working better than Real Player.

I think the reason Craig Bierko is going to be on Thursday is because he plays Max Baer in the film Cinderella Man. Max Baer was a former champion who went on to play Jethro Clampett in the Pullitzer Prize nominated TV series The Beverly Hillbillies.

Janeane will use this as a segue into the red state mentality of the Beverly Hillbillies.

we can barely him, he is talking to low and mubblly

Posted by: akaMAT at May 31, 2005 08:41 PM

I switched to the realOne player and the sound quality improved 10 fold.

WMP gets screwy whenever my screensaver pops on. I wish we could stream on iTunes. :(

We do now have AAR on in Chicago but for about 15 minutes a day and the reception in my apartment is HORRIBLE! So I stay on the stream.

Stop the Wale Hunt! Click my name below.

Max Baer Jr. was Jethro. His dad Sr. was the boxer.

I went to see Uncle Ralph before the 2000 selection when he came to Boston, and again about a year ago at Umass Dartmouth. He got a lot of flack for running the last time, but I have always liked his politics. I'm quite impressed with Gore Vidal too, especially his inside knowledge of the realities of American politics.

I agree with you about Ralph - I think he got a bad rap - it wasn't his fault that Gore didn't get in - he won and the right stole the election. Also in a true democracy they wouldn't try to shut him out and shut him up as they do here. He's a truth teller so he gets a bad rap. Ralph's been trying to warn us all about this for a long long time - most people wouldn't listen to him. Gore is terrific too. He is owed an apology in my opinion.

Spandau...kewl... :)

Janeane was saying that fundamentalists are the problem with religion. Are you a fundamentalist?

Simply put- yes.
It's possible to be a progressive and a fundementalist. All fundamtalism means is that you believe in a mostly literal interpretation of the Bible. -religious views are personal. Hence seperation of Church and state.
Michael

Recommendations for reading...

Confession by Leo Tolstoy

The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann

Ward Number Six by Anton Chekov

I mean for then.

where is FISHGREASE?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:44 PM

Fishgrease IS John Perkins! IMHO

I like that song, it's cool for a transition...

eya ferocious

what did you think of those articles i sent?

I am a member of www.sojo.net also! Awesome group eh. Have you read Jim Wallis' book?

Posted by: mikedevilsfan at May 31, 2005 08:47 PM

I am Catholic, but not anti-abortion, so I don't agree with sojourners 100%, but I respect what they are trying to do and their position on what it means to be a Christian. I tried to read Jim Wallis' book, but I found myself disagreeing with him a lot - I felt he stereotyped Democrats into a slot that I didn't and don't fit into. Also, he jumps around a lot. I didn't feel it was very well-written. I do enjoy hearing him though. He was on Democracy Now recently and did a terrific job.

hmm... yeah where IS Fishgrease?

us REAL Irish-Americans

The Buchanan part of his name gives Scots the heebie-jeebies too.

The 'After Downing Street' coalition have called for investigation into possible impeachable offences by the Bush administration due to their actions in Iraq, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International USA say there is 'prima facie' evidence that Rumsfeld and Bush are war criminals. AMNESTY FREAKIN' INTERNATIONAL!!! WHAT DOES IT TAKE!!!

Spandau Ballet suck New-Romantic, floppy fringed, shiny-suited, leg-warmered, ra-ra skirted, Miami Vice posing zombie cock!

Max Baer was a former champion who went on to play Jethro Clampett in the Pullitzer Prize nominated TV series The Beverly Hillbillies.
Posted by: Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat at May 31, 2005 08:48 PM

Actually, I believe Jethro was the boxing champ's son, Max Jr.

Soldiers of Christ I
Inside America's most powerful megachurch

http://www.harpers.org/SoldiersOfChrist.html

Interesting footnote from the article...reveals Bush's phony christian ethics:

4. Pastor Ted is aware that his martial plans alarm some outsiders; in Primary Purpose he writes that when he began his campaign for Colorado Springs, “spiritual warfare was not a popular subject. . . . I didn't speak publicly about my own experiences.” Even today, in his more mainstream position atop the NAE, Ted's belief in less than full disclosure persists. Last fall, when the evangelical journalist Ayelish McGarvey asked Pastor Ted why President Bush, as a Christian, had not apologized for the false assertions used to justify the Iraq war, or for the dishonest smears marshaled on his campaign's behalf, Ted said: “I think if you asked the President these questions once he's out of office, he'd say, ‘You're right. We shouldn't have done it.’ But right now if he said something like that, well, the world would spin out of control! . . . Listen, I think [we Christian believers] are responsible not to lie, but I don't think we're responsible to say everything we know.”

Blah blah blah. Tell that to all the Christians that were invloved in the Cival rights movment in th 60's like MLK.

A generalization is a generalization and there is nothing "progressive" about it. M
- - - - - - - -
Generalizations are not progressive?

did you get that out of a fortune cookie?

You are making a genealization about generalizations.

So what is you point? You feel you have to stick up for Satanists hiding in the church of Christ?

I don't think we are in disagreement here, just a misunderstanding.

Oops, my mistake. I thought there was only one Max Baer.

More about the World Bank:

"True Believers at the World Bank"

Rigid ideology is a threat, not an asset.

by Barbara Garson

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"Wolfowitz's Move to the World Bank Presidency and the Sharpening of Economic Policy as a Weapon of Mass Impoverishment"

by Njoki Njoroge Njehu & Leslie Cagan

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LINKS TO ARTICLES:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0530-28.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0531-33.htm

For the record, my religion requires me to hate "True" by Spandau Ballet. Hence, as part of my 1st Amendment rights, STOP PLAYING "TRUE!"

thanks!

I can't agree with you completely on this. The theology is based on charity, but in practice, (which is the dogma and religion), it has failed. If you read the Concise History of the Catholic Church, you will wonder why anyone gives Christianity any credence at all."
I'm a Pentacostal Cminca. I just meant that before the industrial revolution charity and good will was much more common with the faith than the new right wing nightamre.
Michael

The nerve of those neocons. Going to these countries, raping their lands, then overthrowing their govts. Wan't to fight terrorism? Start at 1600 Pennsylvania ave!!!

I agree with you about Ralph - I think he got a bad rap - it wasn't his fault that Gore didn't get in - he won and the right stole the election. Also in a true democracy they wouldn't try to shut him out and shut him up as they do here. He's a truth teller so he gets a bad rap. Ralph's been trying to warn us all about this for a long long time - most people wouldn't listen to him. Gore is terrific too. He is owed an apology in my opinion.

Posted by: ferocious at May 31, 2005 08:49 PM

Ralph Nader has an impreachment article on commondreams.org today.

Ask him - How do we get George Bush & Dick Cheney out of the White House.

John Perkins is cool and knows lots of stuff. Has anyone checked out the other books he's written?
"Shapeshifting: Shamanic Techniques"
"Psychonavigation: Techniques for Travel Beyond Time"

(I'm an Unreconstructed Naderite...)

Posted by: AlanSmithee, Nobel Prize Nominee at May 31, 2005 08:27 PM

Got Paxil? :)

I just love it when little countries defy us. They're like Nobody's kids. :)

Back to GWB,and the 2004 election. Does anyone remember editorials in their local newspapers, the week before the election? It is traditionally a time when no election related articles are printed to the editor. Well not in our little town paper. It is posted by them,(the local newspaper) that they will not feature any articles the week prior to he election, that are political in nature. However the assistant editor managed to get a lengthy editorial in our paper, (it was supposedly in response to a letter previously sent to the editor) anyone else have any thing similar happen?

John Perkins is cool and knows lots of stuff. Has anyone checked out the other books he's written? "Shapeshifting: Shamanic Techniques" "Psychonavigation: Techniques for Travel Beyond Time"

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2005 08:53 PM

I see your problem; you're getting confused between 'knows' and 'hallucinates.'

This other guy reads scripts for a company..

He said he hates it cuz he feels like "they're ripping off the hopeful."

(And he's VERY handsome...)

Chavez has policies which benefit his people and do not genuflect to the corporate agenda.

He has given the IMF, World Bank, and WTO the purple finger.

Chavez is now being readied for US-led assasination. The jackal groups honing their knives.

Conyers' downing memo petition

has everyone signed?

The nerve of those neocons. Going to these countries, raping their lands, then overthrowing their govts. Wan't to fight terrorism? Start at 1600 Pennsylvania ave!!!

Posted by: Jamel at May 31, 2005 08:53 PM

Yes, but then, "we" put people "we" want in to run their government and then "we" have to remove them by force in order to give them back the democracy they had all along. Business win-win.

Interesting footnote from the article...reveals Bush's phony christian ethics:
we know.”

Posted by: kma at May 31, 2005 08:51 PM

The whole issue was fantastic. Chris Hedges (one of the writers) was on Democracy Now a few weeks ago discussing all of this. Great show.

what I what to know is why the change of heart?

why is he spilling his guts?

Listening to this makes my blood boil! Imperialist demon bastards! I can't read his book. I'd get too pissed.

Posted by: Carla snarlah at May 31, 2005 08:38 PM

Yeah, the depth of Vidal's knowledge constantly surprises me. I've always like his articles better than his fiction.

As far as "online personalities" go, my point is that one never really knows who anyone is online (absent face-to-face meeting, of course). I could be a typing dog called Alan Smithee. You could be a true-blue-jew called Carla. I don't think it's particularly important anyway.

What is important is the strength and integrity of what we write. It's the ideas that matter, IMO.

(*looks left*)

(*looks right*)

Arf.

M- [I believe in a] literal interpretation of the Bible.

So what is special about a literal interpretation of a book of poetry?

You have a need to see complex pictures in terms of black and white.

That is more of a confession than I think you intend to make.

M- [I believe in a] 'literal interpretation of the Bible.'

So what is special about a literal interpretation of a book of poetry?

You have a need to see complex pictures in terms of black and white.

That is more of a confession than I think you intend to make.

Anonymous, I wasn't talking to you...I was talking to Anonymous. Is there a rule against talking to you? I wouldn't want to break a rule. I think that's what you get for being Anonymous.

[blink]

You are making a genealization about generalizations. So what is you point? You feel you have to stick up for Satanists hiding in the church of Christ?

I don't think we are in disagreement here, just a misunderstanding.
Actually Satanism comes from the theroies of Ayn Rand and is the foundation of Conservatism. If some of the people on the left could understand that the teachings of the Bible are in total unison with liberalism we could get some where.
But it's eaiser for Sam and J. to make sweeping generalizations to make themselves feel superior.
Michael

Hey mr. Sunshine

I found them interesting, but I did think they were from a kind of John Birchy - religious right point of view. I'm too pinko to go along with a lot of it.

hmm... yeah where IS Fishgrease?

Posted by: shell at May 31, 2005 08:51 PM

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He fell victim to a catch and reslease program.

why is he spilling his guts?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 31, 2005 08:56 PM

Perkins can explain it so much more better in his book, but basically, he finally looked into the mirror and didn't like what he saw. He finally had his "ah ha" moment and knew what he was doing to these countries was just wrong.

Spandau Ballet suck New-Romantic, floppy fringed, shiny-suited, leg-warmered, ra-ra skirted, Miami Vice posing zombie cock!

Posted by: trubblemaker at May 31, 2005 08:51 PM

Trubblemaker, you are TOO funny. Question: does this also apply to Steve Buscemi's version from The Wedding Singer?

"has everyone signed?"

I did last week.

Now, everyone click on Queervegan below and join in the virtual protest against Japan's desire to kill even more whales.

Thanks :)

Out and over.

I will probably read his book. But I do wonder sometimes how John Perkins sleeps at night.

I am Graphic Artist for about 30 years and a Fine Artists since a child, but because people want art quick I have to resort to clip art for cost and time constraints. Plus I have to compete with China and India. Fortunately, I do have some people who are willing to work with me because of the quality of work I do and friendship and/or because I am local, but not full time work with a salary. I worry about outsourcing.

Every new potential client so far has said words to the effect "If you give me a good price I will give you all my work." - - In other word cheap and quick. I often do things off the timer if I don't like the way it looks and still charge the same unless the guy is a real cheap sleezebag who usually doesn't know good art anyway or the more wealthy client doesn't want to know or even care. Personally I hate when they lock me into a price and then make 50 changes.

I deal with it because I love the work, but I'm suppose to re-educate myself in a new job according to the latest propaganda. I guess great art which takes time, care and concentration to do isn't important to the corporate profiteers.

Future generation may see the decline in fine arts and handcrafts in our technologically advanced nation. But who cares anyway. It's not important even though everything you own is designed by someone, even the mass produced stuff.

Woof, woof, Smithee--I agree! Onward to hour 3!

guess Perkins felt that the book was enough soap to wash himself clean. He's at least fessed up to his ill deeds. That has some amount of redemption in my book.

I will probably read his book. But I do wonder sometimes how John Perkins sleeps at night.

Posted by: Meg at May 31, 2005 08:59 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

he actually tells you in the book.... it really is a must read.....

http://ecuador.indymedia.org/

http://bolivia.indymedia.org/

(use a translator to read em)

--

Eric Saar was on D.N.!

MAT! You woulda totally dug this preofessor lady today! She was TOO fun! She said I was a wimp for not asking for more free stuff for not being alowed at the pool during this private party...

(she's from NY...) heh heh

!

Got Paxil? :)

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 31, 2005 08:54 PM

Bwa! :-) No thanks. I didn't vote for Kerry, so I don't need any relief from the cognitive dissonance.

But I do wonder sometimes how John Perkins sleeps at night.

Posted by: Meg at May 31, 2005 08:59 PM

Me too.

John Perkins!! I can not live without that man!! "confessions.." is the most important book I own.

D

Trubblemaker, you are TOO funny. Question: does this also apply to Steve Buscemi's version from The Wedding Singer?

Posted by: CMinCA at May 31, 2005 08:58 PM

Steve Buscemi, God bless his little snaggle teeth; good character actor, but NOT a singer. I think he knows that.

Hey Death of Art!

How much do you generally charge for a logo? Business cards?

Im in a similar dilemma. Freelance is a bitch.